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As we approach August 6, the anniversary of Hiroshima, many people feel that this should be a time of somber reflection on the terrible events of that day in 1945 and also on what they revealed: that humans, in their dedicated quest to extend their capacities for destruction, had finally found a way to approach the ultimate limit.

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I just wanted to this this weekend beat because. They get this of this weekend is when they're gonna have all the the observances. Of the the -- I just heard it on the I've heard various newscast today. Wonderful Elizabeth Warren will be going there just you know it's. Talk about how it's it's terrible what was done to people of color like herself. 18774694322603. How we just listen to a top of the hour CBS news all good news today no mention of the unemployment at all. Well we expect. Me would the you know. Fool me once shame on nominee for me to -- a shame on you fool me twice shame on me. OK miles has it theories are actually several people -- a theory about who's been talking to war on. -- and Harry Reid and giving him misinformation. And apparently this is this person who they think is giving the information to was. Harry Reid about Mitt Romney not paying his taxes also been known to call -- Medina okay. He's him -- -- -- some -- -- don't know what sort of soft on social issues but they don't trust -- -- need. When you're supposed to be up and give her marriage should get together. Can you tell you right to make up -- AmerisourceBergen. Right source. Well how old. These -- came up with a name Harry Reid doesn't come up with a name. -- -- Clint Eastwood I believe it champ right wearing a -- rang it. But I think I think it's I'm pretty sure was and smokey and the bandit to do so again that hasn't proportionately isn't that him. Yeah they don't hold you know that that's not idea that's a story that can be copyrighted it's -- you -- that particle life's story. All right. Let's see 774 Howard while Truman as general were waiting for the a bond to be successfully tested the and a backup plan. In a documentary I watch the backup plan was gassing begat Japanese to use gas on the message on the Chinese in Manchuria so was decided this would be good cover there was critical -- Flashback who would be who would become an after most non PC days they could produce tons of -- the chemical quickly -- -- testing would be needed if they want with this plan. All the main islands -- have been hit much as two cities several millions were have been killed something for the new team new moon moon bats to think now. Again picture would have been flashback in -- however one of my quiet. Was Jim from Needham used to call your show I think you passed was a marine recon fought through the islands and watch the bomb dropped from ground zero. To see these moon bats protest and apologized makes me sick these were kids saved by -- president -- balls to do what was needed to save American lives. The only ones that should matter. I I agree I agree they started that they started the they started the war. 978 the first they either fired -- bombing was that. General Curtis the firebombing was -- Curtis LeMay is idea or my grandfather was a belly turret Gunner on a B seventeen station heavily. What do you think he was going after the fall of the Third Reich. 603 the worst rated the war was in March 1945 when general Mason all the B 29 against Tokyo and and one night killed roughly a 150000. Japanese. The fire storm were so bad the water in Tokyo Bay boil. Good god someone else says that also left over a million homeless. Only after all of these that Japan's surrender in many. Many wanted to continue fighting. So you know I mean. It was there was the right thing to know it's saved it's saved lives it's saved American lives it's a Japanese lives saved ever and it's saved the lives of -- all sorts of people by by Truman's decision. And at the it was the right decision. 18774694322. When he was a yeah it was not a lawyer he was ready in my college graduate. He it was a veteran of World War I it's team -- combat. In -- war were horribly be resumed artillery. Unit he was also a member of the pepper gas machine and in in the Kansas City, Missouri. And he was a he was a guy who I didn't back away from his friends he he. Course you could say the same thing forward the ball and Carl Stanley McGee and then what her maybe you should back away from your friends that sometimes but. Thomas prendergast was ahead of east of -- that Kansas City democratic machine and he was he was at. Made millions but he was a degenerate Campbell works -- -- hobby if you heard this story before and he was he was broke -- the keeps stealing -- more and more money and shaken more and more people -- Finally FDR got tired of it and he was a sent to prison. 18774694322. While waffle likes sushi so she's Japanese too that's rhubarb. You know she can do when she's in Asia according to Hershey can be whatever she wants to -- as long as there's some family war. All right we're part of about the should Harry Truman have dropped the bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima bad year next with how -- cargo ahead Ben. Now I get to meet. That it was one of the remaining survivors and -- crude dropped that bomb. Might have been an alligator south that are Obama -- but he was. You have an -- conventions are -- that are before you wrote that. Here's a really outlook I mean Arnold but many people that generation you get talked with by every one of about Matt is unbelievably. Humble. You know they don't have this big swagger in the state you know arrogance and even some of the that it out now out. East said that if that hadn't happened at the -- -- would have been. Quadruple that -- had any any other choice so. That that was one point that that I just wanna say some but -- that without the that the righteous and the chick -- as well Adam Smith. Yet this really I mean -- brought in this really backed up by a lot these quite a ball -- he our country that's. Exceptional and maybe -- and you know about that made by. Can you imagine any other country in the world where like this way to get paraded by these little -- The couple like 600000 balls and a few days and someone told me that that girl they are out like what our fourth thousand dollars donated. The out I don't I don't -- I heard somebody said that but I don't know if if it's true or not somebody's. We don't call out when we -- off balance stroke by it but you know adjusted to back up just plain mean seriously what other country in the world and it's happened to great signal. To see that the only the last is really that the radical left is really exposing themselves with the stuff to beat up there and parade at sixteen year old girl and they call this company -- -- I think you are horrible. And say -- just say I'm -- I'm a good guy and Iman nice guy and and by the way I don't know how you sleep at night. What kind of jerks as so no I tell you kind of talks out of a jerk and a Prius. I was in -- various. Opposite well we have a -- -- Prius goes up. I bought a matter of fact -- -- that today these are Prius with a pop -- go without Scott brown and that it must have been not but that it Barry because he's probably the only one. But the way an officer -- senator earlier this guy's the real. Dirt -- but I'm glad it's got this much play because it's really wake up the sleepy. Middle majority it needs to get this stop and go get a chicken sandwich -- -- Google -- myself that I just don't like to go to the mall but I'm gonna trap. That's the work works an eight. Good for you bad 18774694322. -- don't go to the mall very often you are we're sort form working given that to drive through. No I wouldn't be nasty like Adam Smith would be nice among my commonly strikes through. All right. 978 let the apologist rhetoric on one with armed combat veterans on each side. 617 woke a sleeping giant and upset. -- you know. It's feel bad but these the you know the World War II generation passing on naturally it's it's too bad the you know it's I mean obviously it's just naturally -- probably the worst over for one. 66 almost seven years but. It's just it's just unfortunate I mean even when you look at a guy like. Public. Corporate call me and -- and one of the orbit yesterday was -- he was last major writer the World War II generation laughed you know that was the only -- used James Jones. Norman Mailer and curtain on yet. William Styron. All of these guys and now another in the wrong -- -- ever -- of -- -- in your next with how we cargo ahead Dan. Yeah how we come you know it's one thing to say. In continue to say that we had to do it to avoid invasion but they assemble. Inside -- in the military which knew that Japan was only weeks away from surrendering in any case. It was one thing where the Japanese. And actually made donations to surrender but they didn't want the for the pope's. Top in the United States refuse. We make it to -- some render and ultimately -- -- Or about Stalin which -- on. And not on people are emotional that it never been on -- Yeah but it don't you think that dust pollen you you know it's it's it's hard to war it's hard to convince somebody that likes Joe's policy especially. Mean all he respected was -- strength you know he's the guy who -- how many divisions does the Pope. Mean you that you were really believed any thing that we had this kind of up power and less less was actually used to. Right well just one other thing too between just it would only two days that separated the two bombings yes and I without. -- say it was a typical or the Japanese to know. What actually transpired. Hero in order to you know two and two days so and you can imagine that in two days but what. America I mean the Americans have this power the Americans have won the war they were that trek personally attacked in 1941. At Pearl Harbor and so what are they supposed to don't just like to sit around and give these guys a chance to figure you know have a meeting of the of of the yet I had a whenever they call that -- I guess they didn't have a parliament most days that he you don't let that let the military -- -- meet and decide what they're gonna go. Well in opinion is 100000. -- the world. -- -- what is not between news and for a second bomb. What do you about the human would suppose you had some kamikaze pilot hit a yeah India cruiser and you know killed killing 800 Americans I mean they. You know that there -- they yeah I mean I know they were rock running out of planes are running on ships they're running out of food. But they could've they could've killed a few more Americans in -- days. Yes so you're saying 200 outburst of 800 as a -- change. Yes I am in the in in the case of -- -- In the case of World War II I would say yeah that is a that is a fair exchange immediate you know it's it the then -- that was a that was really an unconditional surrender like a war thanks for the call them. 1877469432218774694322. -- how witnesses from Rhode Island for a one on the pole IPO mortgage text line hey how we down on the people's republic of Rhode Island were the only state still observing Vijay today it will be forever preserved as a state holiday for the -- here. I thought he turned heated debate day. So it's it was still makes you know solar crime with the old Vijay day I thought what I thought they had years ago turned to the debate -- did they make it Vijay today again. I was thought it was a great -- of the -- violent. You know they're great tribute to the greatest generation they couldn't they couldn't get their driver's licenses renewed that day they couldn't sell house stick in City Hall. And what do tribute. Frank you're next with our cargo have frank. Rachel great creature Alex -- I expect about so very many books are children. One of the greatest present -- -- quite -- -- Pacific it was well roll back just turned ninety so she. But one other thing that we will not appreciate it what was going on during. The Japanese were set one of the soldiers fighters that we are out there a copy I don't suicide missions. Soldiers fighting and dying art in place like -- team up. -- now it's like. Now deleting the idea that dark said that the American as the we try to win H it would have been at least a minimum of what -- -- -- -- He's ball. And actually saw -- -- and if you look Clark let. And it said we really can't culture. Any read this thing about. Except what the American public. Found out that we get this where did indeed use. We try we're engaged in Apple's cash. And it subsequently find out that we got the weapon went up -- What many many -- We didn't do what we would have been impeached we would -- streets right. Yeah I I agree I think that's exactly what what happened how many died in a World War II Americans about 400000 right. So noted doubled it -- -- at least double the him the number of cat American deaths in in World War II to invade. -- -- -- -- is such a huge number I mean think about it I mean every every its seems like most families lost somebody or somebody they knew we now. Mean -- by mother were lost or her cousin he joined the he joined the royal Canadian air force were shot down over to Brooke you know I mean ever but everybody yet people like that you know. A strike action I'm sure thanks frank 18774694322. H what about the Bataan death march. -- the where there was funniest I mean -- there was all kinds stuffed now on in with the with the Japanese the rape and king is somebody sent earlier. The comfort women currently they have a a monument -- the comfort women in New Jersey these with these these -- the women. Various non Japanese ethnic groups of white and and and oriental. -- well. And other Japanese issues the most just as -- just for a you don't they were raped by the troops for you know all of the oral over robbed thousands of times. And they are used to wanna tear down the if somebody wants to tear down the monument to whom they think it's some kind of it's demeaning to women or something I don't know exactly what. Much city 860 thank you for saying yes it was a fair exchange room were may have been it been a surrender and a few days for one lucky battle -- drawn out. Mean they they were for these kamikaze easy you know while they were they were they get these guys drunk on on sake. And put him in the airplanes and then they just have them take off and they just aim righted right right at the the center of a an American warship. And you almost -- got shot down on the vast majority of them got shot down ball -- don't need to do was get lucky once and there's -- hundreds and hundreds of dead Americans. Or sneak a little said -- you know most of the submarines were gone but I'm sure there were few submarines around. The coolest knock out a submarine -- that taken out he had taken on an American warship. You know I mean it again beat the that -- how he's changed for four I think fifty years after the war ended. They they were -- Japanese soldiers in Cain keeps. On these islands. Joseph you're next with Howie -- go ahead Joseph. Eligible revealed that while they. There are really little story here on I'm a member of the New England air museum on the part per year several several years ago we had a right -- dinner with colonel -- what was the pilot of the in the OK. And -- therapy was actually the -- here. And of course the question no we came up about how he felt about dropping the -- and a little story. It been open site. Apparently. Japan and as some kind of feudal class system. And what's the -- was dropped. It was a pro well there's so of course after the war he was approached by a young man. Thank him because. Would dispute -- system. Italy would have been forever. Serbians 22. You know higher class Stanley one step -- was broken he was able to get his degree in became successful person and and under first caller that navigator is Dutch -- is the last surviving member of that crew. Oh gosh he's got to be up in his ninety's. But he doesn't make this circuit on I think the first caller mention the NRA he was that the gunshot your strength or recently also. Doing good and he's he's still strut by he's east side and autographs and -- nice very nice person that talk with. Thanks for the call Joseph 18774694322. 617 Sterling Hayden Lee Marvin James Stewart Tyrone power and many more Hollywood guys -- serious action Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise in Afghanistan. Forget about it. While what Ted Williams. You know. Ted Williams lost and Ted Ted williams' -- called for the Korean War he lost five years I think about it of his career. It's it's it's amazing a lot lot of people were drafted twice they were drafted for a World War II when and they were drafted again for a for Korea. The war we are trying to think of some guys who were enough word in the in Vietnam there -- I think Bobby Mercer lost two years Detroit for the Yankees. Post -- got in the reserves. -- Rocky Bleier fullback for the Steelers I think he was he was and be at home. But -- they -- didn't you know I Iraq and Afghanistan. Pat Tillman it's only one right the only football player slash movie star you know that that certainly got killed. For only five. Mike you're next with how we cargo ahead might. They kept that. Yeah yeah I remember being a boy -- drivable. With a couple -- stick -- -- -- would play army and -- lately you know I hear those little guys or those battles. -- as a boy we played quite -- because they weren't able. And it actually came. We have a second thought about you know to trap call -- you know he's stepped up more than. And everything change in America Korea Vietnam but what might put it this -- okay no respect -- war let me thank you so he got into Berlin. He -- entity big gainers at the -- And they get into these things that it's Diego rockets. And they were appropriate to the news Iraq it's against -- that the Japanese had at that technology. They had they had Vito -- that they throw a few -- tunes at -- London. They did it but it into that -- -- -- -- stereo system blitz against Atlanta that the let might point out he is just. There wasn't any instrument of war they would have used against it they're actually dust. Forget about they would -- other than they would add concentration camp that would have little aliens. We had didn't that the blow off I had jets to what the very end of the war I mean they didn't have very many album but they. You know I mean if we hadn't taken them -- I mean that the German not capability especially for a first technological advancements was. Was pretty close to ours. Host a Elliott if you will work to guided diet. Out of the week -- numbers as they say the world pay in the -- a critic of in in Chicago where it. That's a good point Mike thank you 18774694322187746943. 22. Bob you're next with how we -- ahead Bob. -- -- -- Yeah out. I love the timing here just an -- war to evolve from this story lines that. And I hear people like that few but why you know why do they do that. I talked to lot of guy -- won't be dead now who were in the process that they've you know is the landed -- you'd jima and Okinawa. An album that they do what was. They knew they were not gonna give up. And I have never never heard a guy who -- in the -- in the Pacific. And natural and whites have to drop the ball. Does say true they knew who they and the guys who were in the Pacific. Ortiz their ability the first president Japan not the guys who come from Europe is gonna take a -- to get the. Walid but they knew they were going to know you know -- -- our guys on boats when they got the news these guys and guys on try trumped by a troop transport ships now. Well now. Well legacy a lot of guys from Europe they have to bring about to really try and get new equipment my residence and all of it. The other guys -- orient as a guy who they're going to be first ones that there weren't for those killed. Yep and well why don't read if anybody wants to read a book about. About the what the war in the Pacific was like readable nobody would dream I mean that was that was just amazing what went on there. Mean that's the they had to war. The Japanese world holed up in case they wouldn't come out they would they were so they knew they couldn't escape the Americans -- work. Actually Americans had no choice but to go in there with flame throwers. Well if I have talked to people who were who were there who do where am I guess Edelman and Okinawa soon. And they may say day. Knew what was gonna happen. And side you know opening with a guy that guy you. Who called bad. Forward to a principles into 1948. That was a little earlier than that -- -- drop that ball. Saw the gauntlet real warriors you know now. No more no more hundred people have been killed on both sides. Thanks so thanks for the call -- Bob 1877469432218774694322. 97 -- one of two moon bats distort history was not 200000. That killed it was close or 1101000. There were training tens of thousands of high school students to was two to two wise goal going enough. Go and fight -- -- a lot a lot of B twos of London yeah they follow they -- they follow. 18774694322. Five away. How we after World War II who did more to help rebuild Japan's infrastructure and brought more of their manufactured goods have you seen the pictures of Nagasaki and Hiroshima today. Along with the alongside the pictures of Detroit today. 1877469432218774694322. Steve your next with Howie -- -- -- Steve. -- The problem people. If people get into when he talked about I would drop -- apartment to get up in the technology. Because it was a single bomb killed at 101000 people. How about the firebombing of Tokyo big -- what. If you treat children to read about the people write the firebombing that dressed to kill three and 54000. People. It was another rocket weapon used to end the war in particular ticket sent 600 -- twenty ninth -- firebomb the city. -- which weapon that we used to end the war. And they also could they also could dropped the atom bomb on not Tokyo to which and. The part of -- it would be used in here again -- that the war in Germany ended in May and the ball wasn't ready until general. Yet it where we shall there weren't any day it was done to end the war things simple and it. Right and it was a terrible war that terrible war. Thanks for the call stage a moron I mean more Americans were killed in the civil war compare with the -- you know. Compared to what the population was but I mean I'm in modern wars I mean it's it's. The more people killed in World War II than an all the other modern wars combined. 18774694322. On our car. It's. 1877469433218774694322. 207. Malia polar mortgage text want to talk for World War II vet he told me about how they like the V one better than the V two could you could shoot them down. 86 so did Japan's sneak attack -- somebody got killed last Sunday. Few thousand few thousand but he was the biggest attack on US homeland a spoiled by foreign adversaries and -- 19 elevenths. Anyone who questions the -- bond should read on broken the Japanese were brutal. A guy Guillen didn't care about the 800 Americans had the -- over from doing 45 in the high speed latest Prius to make the call. One the B twos were courtesy of NASA's favorite post war recruit Verner -- -- and there were used against the brits in the closing days of the war. Elizabeth your -- were powered car go ahead Elizabeth. And mining at the that the plea and a -- terror atrocities Sweeney hit up the second atomic bomb on May get hockey on August ninth 1945. Yes. I any question no -- did he ever have any regrets I absolutely positively not. I don't possibly move for not -- -- Parts of the not to as a child growing up in the Vietnam generation I once went and when I young I Catholic school in Boston. A young boy said to me during Vietnam he said well your brother lie is in Vietnam he's Evian mass -- just like your father. -- home from school in Boston it to my -- -- the data that true that true. And -- that we've -- sit down -- we -- -- -- ten children and he's seven weeks later that you right now. We were a world at war. A world at war our nation to nation. World at war. He says that tribute my clients skills. And honor for my country keep in mind my debit went deep five years old when he dropped the second time on the table where chip. 25 vehicles. That he was probably one of the older ones. And -- he wasn't and ultimately backed -- 28. -- So he said -- is that it is it no matter where you're going alike and that what to do people always got to the exact same question. -- -- -- -- He that there are and they analyze the -- on both sides. On both sides. You know like I agree I agree -- And he said and you but most people don't realize that my father and -- -- -- in her she -- ten days after the drop in bond. -- they are and if you want to know to be held that Paul was it was very much. A very reserved and my dad was very precarious being in the Boston Irish Catholic and I -- that the tremendous but called war -- and doubt he's the art park the F two -- and despite aggregate 75 years old before he passed away because the children -- the -- And it held -- cute story at every at a card. And it's that it's not about my god it's I have not talked a bit about why this -- it was made. Why is that dismayed at what they were they were there it. Ordinary -- it was extraordinary session I don't think they had any choice from Truman on down did he. Well -- that -- I can't speak to what can tell you is that. He was the best friend ever had that stat the whole wide world and an incredible pilot and it's. My mom my mom was also were aboard -- I also did 33 years the military myself my brother did very terriers that between my mom my god my brother and I we get over 100 years -- military service. Did did your -- stay in the air in the air corps the air force. What are either the -- how long did he stay in -- secondary. By the -- I was in 33 years I've probably isn't very alert when my what would your finally retire from the -- -- negative -- Wow yeah yeah and I enjoy 96 so it was pretty. The medical all aware that that there were people there were people still went in 1976. Or spill blood there where there were still much as World War II vets for people who would drop the comic bond. Yes indeed. That's an easy wonderful men leave that up wards and. We encourage our debt to write and -- them in five years old he did it -- it is truly the true picture it should be in every. High school history. Lesson a polite because shortly about why the decision was made and what and what peninsula the vote. And it's incredible and I I wouldn't have -- might call it that you need to look into the story that -- are perfect for this is my dad. Willis Elizabeth thanks for the -- -- we appreciate which -- dead did knowledge and service of ever wanted your family thanks very much Bob by. That they're your next with how we cargo ahead Victor. Yeah they're back they're going out. How it right here I don't captain. I eight hours. Ain't going anywhere you want to combat veteran I was drove off the road until myself when Tim was talking like that. They let me let me tell you don't then you got one Americans should I do think that the expands our compassion for our enemies. -- -- warned North Pole I open minded guy. You know until -- -- -- there's still. Is that will be did not did not. All of whom you know after the show. In the other week now almost 2000 dead sailors -- Pearl Harbor. Maybe didn't even read that when it was -- it got together about having compassion. You apply for an enemy. It was so. Emotions you know one of the benefits legislation this -- being -- morning. Let me humble when saying that they were going to be fighting Marines. -- a good job called double dog. Because we will launch -- -- it would start being compassionate on the battlefield. That's like I'll look it let's sacrifice and pops emitted compassion while some of the criminal all of it's just unbelievable. In and people that think like Guillen. It means that where probably the biggest fight these -- is -- corporate slapping him in the face with you it will and the potential enemies of America. Into -- be somewhere that stand out. And slap them down thanks -- Thank you Victor goes well part 18774694432218774694322. How we -- first -- to Nagasaki at chronicles the days after Nagasaki in the Japanese in the brutality of the Japanese George Weller sunny Anthony wrote it. 18774694322. Let's say. Base. You brought up Pat Tillman buffalo. Buffalo Bill Bob. Celts can also to. And chuck Morse is brother while London -- -- Lucas were killed with a 101 airborne fire base record mom. 75 American skill force 63 wounded eighty aircraft shot down it's 36 more shot up trying to supply. Airborne suicide mission to destroy Kong -- valley supply -- Al you're next with -- point cargo ahead -- And never called but I am curious. This guy and sure enough it was sort of to one day protecting it's country or anybody in this country. I'm curious state meat stinks but it really should worry about 100000 people you've been -- -- in America. I do about -- and how many people give up the O'Reilly still apparent. To defend him so basically -- that's stupid idea of what's typical -- whether it's gonna eat it can't be 200000. People. He met -- ranking membership who want. -- I -- when he didn't. Include being worked. About 100000. People if you could say it will one. I'm like what do it was it's -- he wouldn't be right now it would have been able to win all -- And his spot at 400000 people. He's dining at. I wanted to and they wanted to in the war as long as the war was going on there were going to be Americans getting killed every day. I'm definitely not my time and I it was -- good -- in -- to twit and and you don't lose. Thanks for the call -- 1877469432. To Don your next with -- cargo ahead on. Yeah battle out at a -- Little bears that's right. But -- no one really took it and understand -- I -- a lot -- obviously guys going into. Let -- -- -- 13 of every American taken prisoner was killed now debt. They presented to a much Wentworth with the guys taken early and you compare that to Germany with 110%. He would keep fighting it Savage Nation. -- -- certainly appeal to people got killed were captured at the battle of the bulge that we're just that we're just mowed down. I just woke up. They don't train as civilians to attack -- -- behind -- in the in the marine coolant. And and that's why don't you would've spent an unbelievable you're gonna you're gonna come back combat trained vets that. That they weren't taken prisoners in the islands they weren't not not after some of the tricks that Japanese people night and I can't even mention on the radio. And as soon as the civilians that is firing on Marines and it warned troops that attainment. -- have been you know we're gonna if it was just an issue or anything mammals there's a lot of would have been and mentioned Japan. And anybody think so life is just plain foolish. -- -- -- bomb saved millions and millions of lives. But I will tell you yes. If you if you read of the Golden State which you realize that Stalin no it much about the nuclear weapons as Truman probably did if not more because -- -- Another world lot of spices those that still it's still there's still stuff coming out about the Russian spies is they go through everything that have been declassified but in what used to be the Kremlin. -- -- --