State Senator Bob Hedlund (R-Weymouth) on X Registration legislation

There's another bill below that very interest and and I think a lot of your interest and and that's the X registrations. And that's the big bill but bill that would. Stop you basically try to stop. Illegal aliens from registering her car. In Massachusetts just was simple proof of an insurance and insurance certificate. And a with a guy who was a bin bin most responsible for pushing the X registration legislation is senator Bob have won the Republican appointment. And I just wanted to check in with Bob to see how -- what the story was with the X registration which was approved as Bob has overwhelmingly is three strikes and you're out bill. Senator Havilland thanks for being on the show and what's the -- status of the X registration -- tonight. Well pleasure to talk to you and your listeners how we hear on the last day of formal sessions in the Massachusetts legislature. So this is a nice respite. Formal does that mean that you can still command for informal and put in for the pre DM. Absolutely that's the way things work here in Massachusetts I don't parole anymore which means to in the session before rogue and you can't put in keeper DMZ -- -- -- the -- to -- to 65 still. And he can't get the tax write off on the federal level if you have more -- fifteen miles away. Yeah I don't live within I don't see on sixty so I'm not popped up to snuff on the out one night but I've heard about it -- -- read about it some would call. Okay what's the status somebody that is the as the I had a an epiphany on the X registrations as well. Well first let me thank you for covering the issue -- you and I started talking about this issue. Back in 2005. When it first down. When it was really first brought to my attention from law enforcement. And I filed a measure to eliminate the X registration Opel which allowed you to register our Massachusetts. Without able driver's license and we find let them we have found over the last seven years so that. It's really big news is oval -- by many who are in the country illegally in which he. A group some great reporting on this in the pages of your newspaper and elsewhere -- 25 like that -- And down. With after the senate the number of times but we've never been able to get the host to concur until this year. And they did this year in the budget and is it to I was sent back by the governor he. He amended it took out the word legal. Residents should prove -- resident he took. It's legal -- hand I don't love it I love -- so now you just have to provide proof of residence. Right but not proof of legal. It's like so the -- legislature around rejected it is an amendment and sent it back and then adds spice. Just about 5 PM on the dot on Friday the governor vetoed the entire position. Right just make sure just say what do you that's the same time he he went after the the BE BT card. Reforms. Right Rex you know I have to what we can target more EDT yes -- a minor point and EDT by the way. Which no pain usually hear me say that but he he says that. But we can get to EDT it but anyway the house. Acted on Monday afternoon they they overrode a governor's veto by a vote if you can believe this how -- 134 in nineteen. And it was even more lopsided than the three strikes in Europe bill. Yeah and in the senate we overrode a 24 to ten a little closer in the senate but. Pretty produced pretty significant rejection of the governor's position. And the effective date is is is is not so it's it's novel are in Massachusetts. We go to -- registry of motor vehicles. You -- can he can't be don't Canty did the C the sea of a rare chance to veto it again most since he changed it once doesn't have a chance to veto it again or. It's just that we rejected his amendments this was. This was said the override of his outright veto on Friday. Also he's so he's -- he's he he can't stop at that. It all it's all it's all over yet follow Obama. That's great news up it -- it was all over. And dissident Saudi TV you know the end -- you'll still have people on our roadways it shouldn't be on our roadways but this is gonna make it. Much to offer and and you know it did it's it's it's it's a significant public safety enhancement I believe. I agree I mean I don't I don't know you know. Some people but say it today on tax and on the message warts you don't if you if you don't have a driver's license. You're not supposed to drive so why do you need to register or car. -- -- -- Not to not to Obey at all. I mean it's it's crazy he is is in his in his state and you know cutting up the -- illegal it's like it's like when -- bizarre world. Yet made it designate while a lot of seen this week hasn't made a lot of sense -- did you know the governor did sign the three strikes earlier it if you mentioned. But if you look at his -- you look at his first statement that he put out today on it he said that you know he's glad that the legislature has sent me a balanced bill well. Last week he had to back -- amendments that he felt it wasn't balanced we reject the amendment and -- -- the way we've tended toward originally Eddie claimed the balanced bill now. So excited -- an interesting few days appear. At the end of this at the end of the formal sessions. Well that's good so I don't tell me about the EBT cards what what point does -- Well appointed as it is you know he he says that you know he's made the comment it's unenforceable. Right it is on the force I understand but. But I mean sometimes. I can't arguing my position. -- -- -- was just the whole thing is unenforceable as one nation we have to cash. Benefit portion of the program we come walking in any ATM and take cash out with -- -- all of the services and goods. That ability and all your thought but as long as you can convert to type to cash. It's it's it is almost unenforceable so he does have a point there. Right but you know there what is that what's on line and animal house sometimes you you have to make a futile gesture. Yes I mean that's I mean it's at least it's a it's a sort of a symbolic. Move you know I mean that's what that's why I thought it was I. Well because of what scares me is -- -- -- made maybe listeners of your show people who. It casually on the subject in the newspapers. Wolf think -- well I work done we -- we got some reforms done with EDT when in fact. You know they're not real reforms. Right right what was -- I noticed today there was a small story on the wires about some guy in Alabama Republican state senator who's. Who's basically introducing the same legislation and he's running up against the same problem that you guys ran up against which is you know. He's he can be AM he can be an important being used forever at a -- so for a tattoo parlor but he can't he can't stop people from going across the street. To the DM. Right right. So is so that's I'm so this is great I mean so why will be you OK -- governor bohea just. Just instructing you know we city universities not going to force the -- BT provisions are you know. Can he do the same thing with the registry tell Rachel pro -- just you know don't worry about don't worry about the legal residents and the legal you know legal residents from now -- from now on will be assumed to be the electric bill just like it has been. You know I mean it is is she gonna pull the same stump that he did before. Well you know I don't know how he can do that beat the registrar -- obviously has some some legal obligation to fold the law and the alarm in this case is pretty clear. We we we instruct the registry is to what. Requirements are now the registry. You know. Does have some leeway in terms of the current list is very. That -- enumerate what you need for forms of identification and things like that so they wanted to wreak some Havoc on the lot yet they can't. The problem with the registry right now while we have a lot of things and in this is one example. Is a lot of the regulations. You know that that that the registry really. Convoluted. I mean this is sex registration was a good example. -- first we couldn't get of a solid title as to how many of these have been issued. How many are active on the road some of the records on these -- registration hadn't been computerized yet. So there's a lot of things are addicted you know the registry could could. And I'm not I'm not condemning the work that bridge corporately and has done I think a lot of this goes back. But only -- completely caught up in a lot of ways -- with what they could do. The 21 century -- it to make things a little more streamlined over there. And make things clear if you look at the listed documents that. Reliable -- to present identification get a license for this is one is actually a Mexican driver's license. Oh my god or Canadian Canadian drivers license that is still have requirements to protesting in in and beyond that but. Did you know if it's it's there's a lot of there's a lot of injuries over there right now in my opinion. That's a pretty hard loophole the Mexican driver's license well I'm wondering if there's -- do it after something else. It's sources of federal thing herds in the errors. -- on all roses are red -- registry of R&B. A list of of forms of but valid identification. To secure Massachusetts driver's license. -- Okay well this is a good start anyway listen as long as I got you here what's up with the what's -- -- put the deposit on the on the bottled water. I know -- and I disagree on that issue and I'm bad at my opinion is we should be held accountable appeared try to get votes on things now I. Offered during the budget debate and peoples and all don't ask for a called on -- -- roll call like an -- -- college that I wanna have one opportunity. During my time -- Beacon Hill to be recorder on this issue with a right -- lose on that the issue came up again. During the down during the so called jobs bill that we did not sure how many jobs is -- -- like jobs. But. We we it was passed on a voice vote he gave me a layup on it it quite frankly how we act I I do believe. That. It's not attacks that when I get my deposit back that's a deposit when I when I get myself an -- something I'd buy. They don't give myself stepped back. I mean I think this distinction in my tax dollars going to pay for the -- Did. TPW workers that people have to pick up on the side of the road in this state looks like a trash barrel my opinion is even make the laws uniform. Because you have some products that a covered under the deposit and some aren't just because of the combination. In his comments from the same bottler and -- the -- package is that either repeal the whole law and rely on curbside respect curbside recycling trucks make a lot consistent right now the -- schizophrenic. But he you know. Bob you know as well as I do why is the governor pushing this thing it's not it's -- because he's cancer. Governor hasn't been -- the governor put it in his budget. Throughout the -- did no work to -- it at all. But he but he put it out there I mean he's been he's been on this for a couple of referral number years and it's fun. Did he did for a reason he did because he doesn't necessarily embraced the bottle bill he started when he's won a million to twenty billion box. Exactly that was like he did what is so what does it acts that he had a balanced budget you notice the governor's budget is dead on arrival. Yes it wasn't a deal that was a mirage. Yes I know that but but what I'm saying is he he -- it be these people the I get the feeling that that know what really gives a bleep about the roads. The road sides being you know -- they get the care I don't really care about not -- talk about though most people most most of your colleagues. Are more concerned about that what he million box they think they're gonna get from the unclaimed bottle were -- bottle redemptions and they are about the with the -- Well let me prove to you why why it's not attacks. If you look at the opposition in the house the people or outspoken and said that it was attacks yes the same people. That have voted for every single tax increase to come down the pike in the last ten years and -- to increase the income tax increases sales -- now all of a sudden. They're against something because they claim its attacks. With this newfound religion come from. War it soared to give me some names. Well -- the chairman of you know the chairman of the committee. They handled the conference committee judge Joseph Wagner for instance. In the speaker of the house. So your saying they they arrived there there were -- and -- being influenced by a by the grocery stores and the butler's. -- -- I just don't -- I you know I just wanna and I -- I always Iowa's return all my bottles like camp plus anybody else's models like him fine. So I I I'm not gonna lose anything I just don't like the -- you're given more money because it in when you give more money I mean it's like arguing whether or whether -- You know when you pay a buck 25 at the at the -- polls is an attack servers that they errors that idea fee for service. I would say it's -- I guess when Dukakis raises turnpike tolls. That's attacks when Romney doesn't -- -- I'd say it's -- its its attacks every what it's always attached. Once they pay off the bonds it becomes tax write the original thoughts and then that's -- it. One right before and you want to them and then they flood first they put out a request for Apple's. And they they say we only can we only need eleven million bucks to fix the rough no I don't know that's not good enough we need fifty million -- You can make a distinction between taxes fees and I hope you can make a distinction between taxes fees. And deposits. So I'm just fed up I'm just fed up in this state with a litter that the bill. It's it's it's out of control there's a lack of respect for our environment here and it gets it seems to get worse every year. 187 so you take a few calls upon short 18774694322. Mark your next with Howie Carr and senator Bob -- -- go ahead mark. As -- -- rectify double the legislature got anything with a bat with the respect that thinking about student rocker biker. Comply with the real ID act and that's so why not make it real ID act comply -- -- -- form of ID required to get driver by. I can't get to the second part of that question but yes we have to comply with -- real ID. I'm under under federal -- I'm moving towards doing that from my understanding. Thank you mark 18774694322. Joan your next with Howie -- and senator Bob -- go ahead Joan. I had to tornadoes click happened -- what -- whatever is that would. You restrict my age are so. There's good stopping off girls. If -- -- was -- to what happened today. Are you talking about the health care cost containment bill. They're probably air quality yet we did -- We did a built to dated debt passed. Both branches on the way to the governor I'm not sure that's the billion -- -- hell's gonna sign it to get a healthcare bill today yes and forward. Teller. It's 369. Pages like the -- -- forward but the to look at Burke apparently money towards our -- keep it going there could be quite. Well overall intent and goal of the big hole which you know and I didn't serve on that committee that conference committed to a broad -- of that bill is to bring down health. Is to reduce the rate of increase of health health care costs in Massachusetts. Moving forward over the next ten years. Thank -- -- -- the built and that happens it's. If you hit my officer shot if you really nice blank piece summary. OK Joan call -- call his office and what your office number in the morning. 6177221646. 1646617722164. Text. -- -- -- Wouldn't wanna put your listeners to sleep on now want. Yeah that is -- that is pretty dreary stuff. Mary you're yeah I know it's important I know what's important but this is an -- It's hugely important and and quite frankly -- or not. I voted for the bill today there was some mixed opinion amongst Republicans on the hill and and and attack who was the most on the -- I've had. In anything I've voted for a long time because I'm I'm not sure it does the trick. -- And it may you know it may create some additional bureaucracy. Which I'm worried about him but I and I'm not sure in the long run how how effective it's gonna be bringing down healthcare cost. Mary your next with Howie Carr and senator Bob have -- go ahead Mary. Hi how we how to -- -- I guess that's the question I -- think that bureaucrats. Get involved again in my health care. Issue about calling Iraq the market but that I I missed a little bit about them I am so happy about that -- a lot but I -- -- and that stability -- Well what is going on that. Well. -- governor. The good news to redundant. That's -- that. We do we the governor has signed some provisions and sit there and forcible. And we create new list of some other items that a -- and to spend EDT on but the bottom line is until week. Addressed the cash provision part of the program would never gonna have to reform now we did include in the budget language to create a commission to look at. The look at the cash benefit portion of -- so. There was going to be another commission that charge -- looking at that to find out if we. Can set up technology. It's set -- a program that provides benefits to recipients. Without giving them that blank check with that -- can be used in an ATM. -- how about this this'll -- thing with you know he he doesn't. He he says it would cost too much money to watch it to switch over so that you could tell which purchases are being ended -- Didn't use that and that's the number between a 450000. Dollars come on who don't get -- with backed. I don't remember the number but we try to get into this with the with the commission that I served on the B key reform commission and and you know the deck was stacked on the one. Where they want of the status all. And if you know represented a vocal model we've had on this show talked about it. And representative Holmes who the Democrats from from Boston who's been great on this issue. You know we were very unhappy as members of that commission with a final commission report. In that led us to. Take the action we did in the budget to try to force for additional reforms and put additional reforms in the budget. So this this process is not over this is going to be an ongoing discussion. In and we've got a long way to go to really have any real reform. He is someone wants candy purchases would be beat the food stamps -- but -- -- the same problem I mean they can it be banned candy than they just score crossed the street and get to -- -- -- come back and get some. Sometimes you -- and on this while lifelong friend of mine a guy doesn't make too much attention to politics. Called me scream and yell on the other David and in a 7-Eleven. And a woman was very upset ahead of him in line. Who was trying to buy. Gummy worms with three BTX. Any kid around with you -- what's this country comes to an. He's not a guy that doesn't -- every election as well you know a year. Can you figure out can connect the dots suitable the next election and maybe support the people that try to push for reform on this stuff. You know any security area -- and do that. So ask him about the union only contractors on state jobs via us. I had this wealth and you can do about that though is there as the unions run shot on the show up there. I'm not always. There was actually some provisions that that we've done recently that the unions were not happy -- But I would say it'll in some areas the unions definitely have an advantage for shore. We're we're very strong union state. You get project labor agreements say it'll be important place just governors try to. Force project labor agreement for a lot of state jobs. How this you've got up this union may unionizing daycare workers what happened that legislation. Yeah that was down. That was an interesting subject. The argument is because they -- -- set. By the state. And that. You know different. Daycare -- is that -- reimbursed by the state. That was the argument and you know I voted against it but. The goal was a straight party line in the senate on that sort of like you know 35 to four. Straight party line but nobody nobody flipped over on its on. One he did was either straight party line we may have had one vote. But I think that one -- ministry. Artist is -- is our sponsors let's gone through is that is that on the governor's desk as well. -- believed I'd -- I don't have to set and I believe it past host to yes that would be sitting in the got. So so even so if you have like cut to three people working at a daycare center and end the one of them one of whom is the owner of the daycare center than now gonna have to join some SCI you type union. I -- this is different levels of what. Daycare centers meet the threshold which I won't bore you but that is -- it is it is something that I saw as an intrusion. Into you know into the free market. Now Julian your next with how we card senator Bob -- go ahead Julian. A on the ball deposits. The federal government's support guidelines of what people should recycle out of all the trash. In mean which has you cannot sell a bottle in mainly out of the process. Has the only state. Then meet the guidelines and don't want fruitless bottles and once and you know -- many silent as. Well. I appreciate that I him I didn't think this was an issue that I was gonna get any support. Our show went on this one get -- to put it up when -- -- -- get clobbered. Like dumb you know eighty. Yeah you wanna you wanna go as far as Maine doesn't put a deposit on wine bottles. I don't think we need to go that -- but I think we need some consistency without law when you have. -- called put not a sport drink and put noted that can't indict Coca once covered one isn't doesn't make any sense to me. -- -- you remember -- -- -- -- -- because it -- and was told this story a schizophrenic I think Delores. Around back in the day with a -- took effect you that they history being vetoed it to veto is overridden. The law took effect when Dukakis came back. Under due to -- and I remember vividly as a kid watching the news one night when the when the bottle bill. Took effect Dukakis walked across the street -- all the cameras following him to make this ceremonial first purchase. With. And I remember this like it was yesterday he went over to the cooler he grabbed a beverage went to the counter and the young lady -- an -- ahead to inform them. -- -- was not covered under the law. That connects to the couple parts. One covet what is it like it should get rid of the entire walk and rely on curbside or make the -- consistent. I still get the feel on the Bob that you know that if if the -- levels of Obama's soft drink. Consumption were the same now they were when the bill first when the Walt first went into effect in the early eighties. That not a novel legislators would be interest would be -- would be interest in this. Notable because that still be getting the same amount much but the problem is -- -- consumption habits have changed in the in the states that collect analyst call. To pick to go back to the last college point you know with the but the main issue. The proof in the putting though how he'd been noncarbonated beverage container only 21% of them getting recycled. The rest of the winding up in being driven street side of the road. In Italy and -- which is a burden to communities. Ten and the fact is with the redeemable product if it's you know 77% of those getting recycled so. It is kinda works. -- you can you can you can argue but the mandate part I respect that. But it works if the goal is to reduce the litter in the -- on the side of the road it works and that's my motivation. 187 set will pick one more probable that you go up in a battle. I would it's it's a roll of the dice I don't know jump in here that's without car and a senator Bob at one joke. I -- I don't that are area. Question I had boys -- was. The license fees on vending machines. There was a a amendment. Present it to the house and from what I understand. It was hardly discussion and out about it it was just passed. That would allow the department of public -- to raise the fees on banning licenses. On vending machines from three dollars up to twenty dollars what. A 500%. Increased -- Net and that is not hurt anybody license per business -- -- license per machine. I understand -- for an event is something that is something that has been brought to my attention I've I've publicly stated my opposition to that. I -- I don't remember. What vehicle that was -- legislation that was it that was part of the but without part of a jobs bill. I honestly I'm not know the host -- -- the house is taken it up but that's something that we come out unanimously they -- the state Republican caucus in the sentinel for. Us on the opposition to the right but it did it go throw that go through was with Joseph wants them well. I I you know -- I'm trying to remember if we had debate on that and thought I -- it's possible. Did that was may have been a provision in its kicked around a little bit included a provision in the budget may have been a provision in another piece of legislation that we opposed. But I do but I didn't know that the house didn't have debate I thought the -- had some debate on that. I remember Sean O'Connell was quoted in The Herald is you know saying that the you know she was totally dead set against it and -- -- would have hi there would have to hire more people what. I don't know and I think that was an amendment during the budget that we had debate on a on an outside section of the budget that we had offered. And -- she may have offered in the house to to to prevent that from happening is actually -- it was being done by I did he. It's coming back to me also apologized this was something that was implemented. By the executive branch. And then we had debate to try to strike that in reaction I believe to what the executive branch did. Okay we'll try it will try it would Joseph will try to find out choose. Sun like star -- that's what happened was we took a week I believe we got to vote on that -- opposed to that down that increased. Tried to -- do it I believe it -- it was an outside section in the budget. -- by the one -- thing for you Bob tell to include 413 we talked about this the other night why -- we include net bought smear talk about a matched. In the cities especially the net bottles. How about I'll tell you what it. I understand the point you can -- -- life somewhere public Dunkin' Donuts stops in powerball lottery scratch tickets. I've had meetings with the state treasurer sub. Multiple state -- -- I can and they don't want it they love this idea that you know they look at the lottery like a business and don't wanna and in their return -- yeah I believe you could set up a second chance game. With those tickets would be getting redeemed. They've -- second chance games. It was deliberately done in -- -- in a cumbersome way it was set up to -- right from the get go it was a ridiculous way to do it. There's a way to do I think victim could work. And none of these -- seem to I had a meeting -- Grossman on basically got to do assembled at a don't want. And doesn't want it anymore and grocery stores want to deal with another million trillion bottles every year OK we got to take a break out. To do what they did they don't have to go back to the registry -- can be done at the point -- felt betrayed those people from -- the clean up their pocket watch the registry what's the bill. Bobby Jindal lottery what's the bill. For the redemption in the second chance. Game OK thank you senator Evelyn thanks for being -- -- 18774694322. And congratulations on winning on the -- registrations on -- car.