Avi Nelson - Sean Bielat and Obama's Business Gaffe
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Sean Bielat, Republican candidate for Congress in Massachusetts 4th congressional district, joined Avi to discuss his race against Joseph Kennedy III and his views on the major political topics. He also discusses Obama's recent gaffe, when he stated that "If you've got a business, you didn't build that."
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This is Don Nelson welcome to the program. Live program going on now give -- phone number. Text message code. -- can -- to participate in the program the phone number is 8774694322. As a toll free number 8774694322. The text message. Already 68680. And email address say Nelson mad at WRK you know dot com. Okay we're gonna begin -- program this afternoon. Where the discussion with a candidate for congress in Massachusetts. -- we all talk about how it's important to make changes and we crush a lot about the politicians who are in office of the things they do. And how we dislike the way things are going. Well in this system the only way you get to change that is to put new people in office. -- this afternoon we're talking -- one of the people who was running in Massachusetts. For a congressional seat to name is Sean be lot. We'll talk with you about you -- -- where he stands -- for those -- you got questions comments. The phone lines are open to you John good afternoon thanks for joining us here. It could be back. Well there's a second run through for you ride through the congressional seat. Yeah no spoiler and a couple things along the way it. It is it's yeah I would say I'm going to do it -- as -- -- -- -- it's it's a -- on. Won't begin with you know you're not yet household word show taken from the time Sean. Tell folks who you law are torture background years. -- Well I would start would expect them marina spent four years and active -- had been reserved for about ten years now. Did it undergraduate period Georgetown university at it and that's a public policy at Harvard and I didn't and see if the or school of business. I spent most bet that it in business. Around as -- management so that the Indian company. As stricter business development and later it's program manager for a hundred million dollar line the center about access. I -- thereabouts but they're very used to it's got to roadside bombs in Iraq and Afghanistan. And I don't want independent -- and now running up a small start up and the reason. All that matters is because this year the number one issue that we face -- a country and locally is the economy and jobs are. -- -- too few people didn't intend it to you people in Washington and it actually ever worked in the private sector -- jobs sir bad payroll. And so I'm looking towards taking that experience downtown. One of the people who has not met any of those criteria of having been in the private sector met a payroll. His seat president of the United States how did you react when when Barack Obama made the comment that if you have a vision she didn't build that. Yeah I still can't believe -- I'd like this like if it was just a slip of the congregation and double down on that stance and it just -- -- In arrogance about the -- abilities and our government and the lack of confidence than that. In the abilities are people in the private sector work card sixteen under their own merits. And through their own artwork. Of course everybody and in a visit to and and other people we depend on customers you depend on suppliers you depend on. You know you input inputs to hear your business and -- apple Foreman and physical form. That doesn't mean now that you aren't responsible for success everybody does essentially access to that scene -- You know goods and services out there in the marketplace. Whether they choose to pursue. Opportunities how they work to achieve success. After pursuing an opportunity that's a whole different question and the president's remarks I think we're frankly. Denigrate although people it's taken. Taking the risks and done artwork to create that process. If you're just joining us good afternoon I'm having also on the line between Sean deal but. He is a candidate for congress in the fourth congressional district in Massachusetts. That's who -- that usually held like Barney Frank. I won't say that your running for frank seat because we now know that you can of the rejoinder is it's not franks -- is the people's seat. We should spelling his last name by the -- is B I eat though AT. -- people want to find out more about sure they want to get involved when your campaign. Are they contacted you were campaigning. Well Sean for congress dot com and EA and -- -- our congress dot com. How -- you. There's seven. My wife and I live in north spoke with two little kids we're actually at an event right now announced Saturday is on the weekend Felix try and bring him. There earlier prior to your although it does send her -- -- -- and down so far so good -- been holding up well today and could probably have continued. Now in terms of some of the issues of the day how -- -- you described yourself philosophically. -- focused on. I I'm market based solutions Aaron the power competition and that's because -- gets the most attention outcomes you get the best social. Societal private. Outcomes by having premarket that's -- the course. There is considered a group for regulation and didn't say that we don't want clean air and water and just -- foods now that it's not an all or nothing kind of thing. But where the market can't provide we're competitive. Forces can enable access. We should focus on the site. So that sorted that out for me it's about you know -- achieved the best outcomes. Or individuals or businesses and -- -- country. Where you stand on obamacare. I'm opposed. I think that's a perfect example of where. You know political decision was made to pursue a governmental solution rather than that. A solution based on market forces -- about proper role the federal government is to enter -- to regulate true interstate amber. So why not start a enabling interstate competition among health care providers and insurers. Competition can -- extend coverage it's gonna lower rates. There are a number of other reforms that we can take it upon similar outline everything and actor we use competition to did it to the fullest extent. And let's figure out where we need to -- it and I'll guarantee that will be a lot less intrusive at safety net in a lot smaller lead yet because. Become competitive forces in the industry or marketer and support. You know a better -- supplier of services that better price. We're Donald Sean be lot Republican candidate for congress in the fourth congressional district court. We'll get to his opponent. And a little bit later on. In the -- -- on the issues that have that have come before the people include. For example this debate over whether they should be tax touch or what to do about the deficit Jewish whether. According to the president tell action should be raised on people who are at higher levels and income where do you stand on that. Well you don't let that thing that frustrates me about this argument. Is that we should raise taxes is that it's never. -- -- -- -- -- So I might disagree in my agree -- the president said we need to raise taxes specifically because the -- that our president said. We need to raise taxes in order cheer. I don't know you know -- -- -- -- -- ports so no I it's rhetoric it's going to be. We can agree or disagree about their policy but we don't get the second part of that -- and all we get from the president from. Many many Democrats in brutality to -- the party line is we straight that it. For no particular which tells me. That it's paid political argument surely it's. It's an argument that says look I know the economy is bad. We're gonna point the finger at somebody and say it's unfair that they're sixty. And and it did not achieve it takes the focus on the lack of success that this administration's. Economic policies it takes the stage at. I'm always from focusing on how we solve the problem to complete blame. Her problem vertically or not. So I act I I cannot understand or just a side the point it at the right thing to do -- a down economy is raise taxes. We're talking or Sean -- -- candidate for congress in the fourth congressional district in Massachusetts. John regime invention Aurora Colorado. Have brought to bear to issues. That young -- discussed before but always get amplified after and then like that. One has to do with capital punishment than the other -- to do with gun control. They're lawyers in particular and Dianne Feinstein the senator from car from California. Has proposed that these large clips. Oh or 100 rounds you shall. Be -- where do you stand on the issue of gun control do you think that there should be. They should be assault weapon ban -- enacted should there be a ban on these large are gone clips. Well let's let's start by saying the obvious but it -- something that we should acknowledge what you go through the oracle a tragic situation. And you know eight. I think it's that the great starting point. That being -- It's not clear that immediately Russian interior new legislation is the solution and -- If you look at the legislation that we have on the books at all that these statements that -- -- There's a lot of -- -- out there. The question is what we need what don't we need should reinforce what we asked. More than it did then it's been whether it makes sense to rushed through additional regulation particularly when in many cases it's concerning. Basically cosmetics when you look at some of the particulars of this assault weapon ban it did it more to do it out of work and what. Then what the weapon necessarily -- it was capable of and -- basic question of what. What is is it necessary -- proper. It's just selects certain types of weapons that they that there. Particularly. You know egregious or require. Certainly it legislation to control. That may or may not be the case but it's it has been made clear so the idea of let's just that regulate it says the magazine capacity. I don't think -- it's requested so. Does anybody honestly believe that is. The shooter gone into their bitter. And said you know. We're all -- sort of low capacity magazine that it's still wouldn't and a tragic. That's that's that's part for me to the believe that that's the case so I think. We need something a little bit more thoughtful and immediately rushing into this this notion that we need smaller magazines -- Different style weapons. 8774694322. If you have questions or comments solved with regard to the congressional ratio on -- -- Republican candidate from the fourth congressional district. -- or roughly outlined the fourth district. Well let's start -- out Brookline Newton Needham well played and then and itself from the air all the way down of course not all river. And it it's a lot of born and excited the count won't -- besides. You know I intend to know urban hope there will. Brent. So it's it's much more -- cohesive whole from the previous district if you look kind of let it doesn't look nearly -- gerrymandered. I'm and it's a much more conservative districts and the preakness they're still Massachusetts but I wouldn't say it in conservative districts but -- state it's much more conservative. -- it's a very even district in terms says voting behavior. He typically. Indian Charlie Baker for instance if you take the the just statement as as it gets the ball that spot by about half a percent in the district near county interstate ought to -- on its YouTube 48. Scott Brown this from our rent them which is the district and most of this state senate district it's here. He won by about eight or ten points an affront against Coakley in our poll shows about by considerable margin here against us it's. It's a good district in terms it. Provide a level playing field. Or Republicans and and you know ultimately giving voters more choice. 877469432. To use these text message code section 8680. In the email address. And Nelson WR KL dot com -- comments your questions the first -- do not here's your opportunity man running for office. As I said -- the beginning of this segment. We all -- a lot about what's going on and we should we -- like to make things different this is how different shoes are made. By you voting for candidates that you support who presumably. Who do things differently from the way they're being done now and hopefully even better. Let's go to the telephone lines Alan you are first up whereas -- on below. Think -- -- and I don't toned down UK haven. I'm the guy they used to give you the political teachers when I had to play her lower all right hey Alan hey Derek it's great to talk it I'm so glad to see -- running again Sean took place. Got a tough question for you. -- are right we're coming up against the debt ceiling again. We're gonna go -- current political machinations. With this debt ceiling. If fury congress today and the president was not willing to cut. Back on spending entitlements. Would you be willing to shut down the government. You know I mean that's an extreme. It's important now than people that want to repay those sort of things does since there aren't talking about it Sean and -- and our you know -- red river there are already talking about how we gonna have to shut down the government. This is already being bandied about this is an issue that is -- in congress today you would have to deal with. We're ready willing and has. -- them raise the debt ceiling opus 68 trillion dollars would you say enough is enough to. Bright and so I'm not. It's an unlikely situation and say it's an unfortunate situation it's it's it's we're reaching an extreme where we can at. Yet still yes sensible spending decisions that are gonna get us to where we need debate I -- you know we never want to rule out any option despite never rule out a military option that clearly. We don't want other and you know all things equal we we reach a solution to like the idea of having out there. And an area that's killing them. But you raise the debt ceiling that's -- and god no don't compromise would Obama. DV DO Eric all right wait I won't have our number organized with Obama that he won't be there are. But assuming he has -- you know you're right it is an extreme it's very possible that. That -- to be out and that's why they can't take the option off the table. You know India are shutting down to cover -- it certain that it's sort of a last resort nobody wants secure. But you can't take -- not able or since you know essentially it -- -- in the -- Are you I mentioned earlier Sean about dole Aurora Colorado I said there were two issues that we brought to the four. We talked about one of them which is a gun control issue the other is capital punishment. Where do you stand on capital punishment. I'm a post. I understand the need I mean you know it's -- they have Mike Timlin pilot error. Just absolutely emotional impulsive to want to see you know dirt it's under that. And I absolutely understand that at into the -- though if it. It becomes this expansive content -- process that's. That's been officially it -- shown through DNA evidence and one -- could mean that people are you. Our secure ultimately I think it's it's it's not the benefit of -- And 8774694322. Brendan your next on the program good afternoon. That's definitely good afternoon a national honor which is the best of luck I have two questions are now I'm not. I wanted. Usually are reported that this week in Boston papers that's MIT Harvard received millions in stimulus money arbiter of the 38. Billion dollar endowment. And University of Massachusetts is on the 5% are twitching so that's coming academic year. Why -- -- given money to the well be invited back or somebody comes to universities. And second it that you believe there should be an audit of the federal government. -- Well I think the second might be on the Federal Reserve they may be what he was driving but glad. It interpret Federal Reserve minority absolutely and more accountability we can -- our government the better I don't know why you agree this audit but they -- And any governmental positions so. Absolutely support our audience said any any other corporation and governments. In terms of the -- Hispanic. States. That -- -- beat beat the -- notion that innate sense. -- stimulus dollars university and that's something and then I don't agree with which it's totally we want to put an artsy what wrong to use the right way to peace you know is give people and businesses that they're all -- You reduce taxes but people -- their own spending decisions are apple out patients' decisions. That's how you get it -- -- I'm so in terms of the total. Government throwing dollar anywhere did he -- -- that country. That being said yet for some reason it does make sense that aren't we bit weaker side is the nation that it does make sense to peace cannot and does make sense to do it that way. I would agree with the -- that. He probably has more bang for the pocket you its -- EU mask. Rather -- -- You -- you know you -- -- essentially rewarding I'm poor. Spending decisions within the university Harvard as. -- -- -- -- -- 22 billion dollar endowment or whatever it is today. It's unclear to me why they can't you set cap on separate survey inning in a more efficient manner and get the outcomes that they'll. Sean below that is a candidate for congress in the fourth congressional district we're talking with him -- -- thoughts and comments. Questions are welcome 8774694322. -- show onion you know I mean we got some on to education the student loans became an issue recently. Know there are loans that are in effect subsidized. By the government. At a lower rate than the marketplace would command. Do you support that. Now and so that any you know we see this student loan well alt opt forming -- it's not very formed. Found people are taking out greater amount that debt to finance their education than their degrees -- providing value. So it repeat it. Led by that I mean if you go to eighth. University that's not equity -- good. And you pay a lot of money that agree -- a lifetime value that degree it's never -- the match we couldn't students do not. That creates. And massive drag on the economy export. Particularly -- people graduated -- decade or so so he had a negative economic and outcome coupled with this. This incentive -- this strange. Senate system for. Wonders to -- make loans. Irrespective. The credit worthiness of the arts and the idea behind it is is -- ordered it should be able to go to college but the net effect is that. Colleges that they sent their customers are essentially. You know price insensitive. Continue to raise tuition -- here which than it used to government. Through very brave formulas and raises all boats but -- -- which allows ecologist increased to recipients. So especially at this race it's happened here this method acceleration of the cost that balls coupled with beat. It out economic drag created by those -- -- paparazzi has a lending industry. Where they are subsidized and then don't take on any risk because. Student -- into discharged in bankruptcy. The epic series disincentives and it's just creating the bubble that's gonna pop at some point so I absolutely don't think that -- That the current approach to student -- it's it's something instead you know it's headed in the right direction or the government should be involved. Frank you're next on the program with Sean -- look good frank. Thank you for taking my call. I'm very concerned about politicians in this in this stance towards Israel. It's very difficult to get the truthful remarkable. But the way to do it is -- any politician that's for gun control is someone at all not protect Israel. For example I know that Mitt Romney supports gun control laws but I also know that Scott -- that's. And I will determine if what he was very simply how pro gun -- more important would you support a federal assault weapons ban. And how do you feel about gun rights generally and let me respond to what to -- Well -- you know I'm glad it's in the Nazi supporter I mean that's a -- to -- should -- every American response Second Amendment it's very clear. About. Giving Americans the right it's the bear arms. That's that's very straightforward. I am not sure I understand so -- that you're making between. Second Amendment in Israel. -- I can't tell you that it eight C Israel clearest ally obviously in the Middle East and inhibition actually demos and able -- any. You know coherent and strong approach -- Iran and development of a nuclear capability there's no one else out there declining output that. Against Iran. Israel is providing credible threat that Iranians it's seriously. But it have to be helpful with our results to support them even -- some military action standard blustery sort of like that it. We don't want to do it. Like you have here you know sorting -- ever suspect. You don't want to do it what you have to keep it out there as good as substantial threat if you like -- -- outcomes they. Let you know which you built on company lot of debt so I absolutely support our continued relationship -- with Israel are absolutely. -- -- False moral equivalents Serbs into the Palestinians buying thousands of rockets as at Israelis have been people complain about Israelis. Disproportionate response one at that. They go out of their way in many respects to. To provide. It's pretty young -- and and it's four protections to. Bear population -- if the Palestinians that would never be provided in reverse. So you know -- hope that it's typical since. -- won last philosophical question from a different angle. Affirmative action where do you stand. And I don't even know what that means. He exceeded what what is that about. Well you have. -- -- -- -- Welcome back this is Don Nelson once again my thanks to Sean realized. And who's running for our congress and remember -- -- I didn't agree with every answer he gave me either. We got an a couple of text messages shareware and disagreement thank you want from church once -- We're we're talking about capital punishment. Is 617 texted me and more costly than paying for the criminals to live in prison on the on the taxpayers for fifty years come law. Now disagreed with his answer on non capital punishment you well -- we also brought up about. The and the -- the DNA and the advances in forensic. Inquiry says so refined it in some people have been convicted but keep in mind there with those techniques now in place. They will be applied before. The conviction is -- shall be fewer people who will be convicted. Improperly because of these new techniques. -- nonetheless I disagreed and the rear of the point I'm making here. Is -- you don't have to agree with someone on everything. From -- five for your vote. Remember this is always a choice between two real candidates -- between. Somebody who's sort of in the right place in the ideal -- would be the -- loss for came. The question is not whether or Sean be like his perfect all cherish. But the likelihood of these giving more answers closer to where you are then Joseph Kennedy the third. Then that's really what it comes down to choices between real candidates. How you know let's not let the perfect be the enemy of the very good -- -- little children 4694322. Is the phone number staying here next on the program good afternoon. Probably unfortunately I didn't get to. Inquire about this light weight. Candidates. -- -- the press about he stopped off with they. Republican talking points about what Obama really set about small business and that's really what he's said so that should be eight. This qualifier. Right they have because he's because these -- it's the big lie. I tell you all right Dave I tell you what did I know. Sean -- losses on our gaming union get to talk to show -- you get to talk to me I tell -- I -- are true and I'm gonna do Dave. I -- I'm going to play. Not Obama can't any change hired to location you want having -- -- right -- they're doing right out of you we'll hang on. -- I run the clip on Obama. Whining about how there's just people don't do much of anything at all it's or drops in their legs if you. And successful you don't even get don't know. I don't know and I'm always talk about people who -- Well I must make -- that was just so Smart come through like your -- mind. Unchallenged he can -- I'm always struck -- -- I challenged Barack Obama to come up with anybody who has ever said that to. That's just fraud. That's nonsense I don't really nobody's sure when I finished they -- nobody says that I'd been an entrepreneur or. I know want to -- nobody goes around especially door Barack Obama did rule you can't you -- actions and more I'm good I'm good. Okay continue with the clip. There must be because no one told her nobody else let me tell you some of the hole. Want to know what can be. No small break you -- for a second. -- morons applauding in the background yeah there are a lot of hardworking people out there and if you work hard no assembly line or digging ditches. That's very nice and you'll get a life shall -- you will not build the business. So you know this there there's something in mathematics called necessary and sufficient conditions. Anatomy now. Your feed it may be necessary to work hard but it's not sufficient it depends what -- working hard. Continue with the good. If you are successful somebody on the line. -- the good -- someone in your life. Some say -- took away. This unbelievable American system that we have that allow you to thought. Some invest in roads and bridges that you got a business. That you can build that. Somebody else. -- out of John. -- -- go back to -- clip on it. Trust the trust of Bobby again that's a lie that is not the local. All of this hobby is. It is not played a whole clip from this about it speech that is they lie I. Know -- -- if they wanted America cannot get. -- you know I played there is Noelle. There is no editing of that there is no loss context high price I can going to be candidate. Gave the whole thing with a set up here was when he says if you have a vision issue didn't build that you had several minutes running into that. I don't have to play all Barack Obama's speeches from 2006. Right now yeah we complain that Mitt Romney's pick it up all day like aren't the only free when you what are the IKQ do you hobby yeah well. Angela what Barack Obama's. Signing -- his only have a little bit yeah. -- -- -- -- state that you want people to make up their mind at all candidates. That big Roddick -- because you cannot have both candidates all the candidates who are -- you don't have the one who you wanted to win that's all so that's the big bike and that's what you do not talk radio you only have one side. You don't have both -- even have -- candidate. That day fact we are talking about Barack Obama and his disparagement of business speed. You want to push -- And you want. Talking about power -- question would you rule and our candidate for congress you need to know how to answer it he. Candidate failed Republican talking point about the fox. Bit batting an -- Telling -- -- -- I -- you we just played let me and we just played the clip the -- And yes I did yes. Looked gave. You know. You people wanna make it sound like I am people you meet new people -- to everybody do you think there if you show up for men and I'll tell you do next is. -- -- You people are always have you keep defending Obama and trying to make it sound like he really wasn't disparaging business. You people are the people I've heard on nauseam after this comment was made. Political pundits and analysts and supporters from Barack Obama. Who are always saying all we took it out of context what you heard several minutes you have the whole context. And this idea that somehow he was out of context. Is allowed now want. It wasn't none of contract he did disparage business. This nonsense that all of your roads and you had a good teacher yeah. We did a nice now the road to their forever won only a handful people are successful entrepreneurs in fact only a handful even. Why it. And most of them failed. So your nonsense about -- that's -- code word because we're talking about black people know all we are talking about the people. New and Bob Beckel. And all god here how many people that I -- on television who keep trying to say boy didn't mean that and even Morocco bombing himself. Later on his -- I just meant we we we all build paid for the bridges on the road which nobody disputes shaft. We all have roads we all use them for granted. And they apply in the factory worker as well as to the entrepreneur or they apply only athlete they apply the Hollywood star. It day in a fundamental sense. For Barack Obama to -- that it is so basic so but now she'll really fundamentally stupid. That somebody in the fifth grader has figured it out. We he usually is the roads to get the school. If problems weren't scared he might not be able to go to the school bridge too far we know that that's meaningless. British interest -- them all people who usually roots. Only the. Business people did Barack Obama tried to disparage as saying you wouldn't build that. As if somehow somebody working in the shop or somebody working on an assembly line doesn't get the same benefit of the -- That's the problem with the comment which you have here is an antipathy -- business. A failure of understanding of business and the reason is that Barack Obama was not -- a private sector. Here's another first thing about even holding down a job in the private sector but certainly doesn't have the remotest few. Of what it's like to try to build a business meet a payroll. Try to take care of employees. Try to make the company go. Try to make it so that the company doesn't go bankrupt he doesn't have a big idea of that but that. -- I'm one last thing. And that is. That he spent 22 years in a church where his mentor Jeremiah Wright disparaged the system. Which critical of capitalism. And antipathy to America and to the free enterprise system and each show hopes. This is who Barack Obama really as he tries to mask it sometimes. That most of the time but every once in awhile it slips out this was a gaffe all right -- it was a gaffe. Because he told the truth. During the clinic. Welcome -- this is Don Nelson. -- -- -- -- -- 4694322. Is a phone number 68680. Text message code -- back to the telephone lines you are next on the program. Good afternoon. I have the I did a quick compact car he would do it because there are eager to talk to about Obama's speech tonight here at times the energy bill. People saying that it's taken out of context and but that does this. It's clear that came out of nowhere and made one speech. Anyway I -- we context of its entire presidency. Prior to that the press they're gonna -- so we do have. His presidency -- its policies. Do what he said they had to say that somebody who claim they build their own business there are. We can see that in his three up four years of politics. Now you're right and as I say even before that he was 22 years with a mentor who has antipathy to business. You know I sure mass daily shelling didn't play the earlier part of the speech. I'd like to know what wished him. That he thinks was there before they would change the conduct we played several minutes of it it's quite clear what Barack Obama is saying. It has been very good morning to ask -- What is this staying in the context. Yeah I mean you are quoting -- speech we will not put our work since its. He's quoting the speech -- pay as you say we need to ask them give us Obama's words that well off by. -- Jack did they say it was edited it was not edited that was a straight clip it's true that I threw in some editorial remarks. But dollars a clip that has it was. And was quite clear what Obama was -- Yup somebody else build the roads the bridges and -- Thank you Thomas Edison for the light bulb and you know Isaac Newton for contributions. To law of gravity guy. Well -- those who can get on whether. But on the other side of the news I'm mark Nelson.

