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What an awesome day that you love being ailing lender if -- get all the outrages of the day you think about all the great things about Massachusetts in the summer. What are the great things -- shafts. And that's why now deputy -- watched that show top chef masters yes. Now I girl that's not allowed in the kitchen you know the fiance the firefighter -- -- and let's yet it has -- prime. I am horrifying I set cookies on fire in the -- -- And I yelled -- so I'm awful. I would not awful and her name is Patricia -- -- he is. You know one of the best known -- in Boston you've heard of her before she is the ship that's behind some of the hottest restaurants. In this city. She is opening Moscow. She was the executive chef at home then she opened ginger park. In the South Bend. In now how she is on top chef masters. -- -- -- tell us who is the winner but she can't tell us about being on the show Patricia welcome to finish on the show. -- -- -- -- -- -- expected in Vegas but already in the politically right now. A hundred flight reasoned and you. It is see this type -- that's too high you don't want to eat here knowing and Patricia you actually missed one -- nice days with Nike but no humidity. And I think that the -- daily wanna sit outside you don't fresco. So I want to tell me a little bit about this experience because you. Where scrutinized and can't reveal the winner but just scuttlebutt buzz around Boston. That you have a shot at catapulting it to the top of this rock brewery. I I cuddly -- about that but I mean he had a great high negatives it's just you know I I didn't know what to expect and then. -- -- was a little nervous about doing it but I'm gonna cut it lot of -- -- -- -- -- around like he has seen -- people who sort of I sort of it grew up in the distance -- all polite -- buy -- at the business and people like. -- mature group from Seattle and then people like you know -- Robinson and you know and all the legal perspective yes yes. Now you strike me as somebody -- not that combat like me on top chefs master even though I can't crooked as saying nothing nothing you I I don't know appeared pitchers to talk about how -- -- -- my -- of the five Iowa levying etiquette you know that if it had MacKey -- on an awful. However you I could go to battle I think just with my. My brash ease the attitude alone you very nice you're nice look at how do you compete in a show like this what people. Don't pop them into one another and is and is all this petty jealousy and undercutting how to compete nationally that. Did not compete in the agent that we really. Ultimately we opportunity feature would not. In the picture battle fight against each other acts to eat that apple outsells what we can do within the tight limits and the parameters that we give the get -- it very cool protesting -- we discussed. And so we did but shed recipes we need you know shed ingredients sweet we try to help each. Denies it's not going to be -- he -- client onscreen. In a -- At the snippets like a -- that screening because it's. A lot of pressure and and you know you're and a scrutiny that Catholic in the -- you try to put the meal get up and it. Twenty minutes sometimes and let you know more is attacked you're working and the great. And and said that it keep it there amendments with people snap then you know we have limited -- You know. Anxiety and anger at but the but the -- it was a very very nicely. -- -- Leo would that be adopt. -- that's that's kind of battles highlight it's like being a police report he always hang out the competition after the story is over and let. You prepare this elaborate meal now I know you can't tell us what you actually cooked on the series in what is a series began Patricia -- people tune in to see you on top chef masters. It's stops tonight which is why we're out and they disk as. This is that we shot -- and and and the whip -- that the people party. So this is ten night on Bravo I mean you SP excited it. Are all in Boston sort of read and you are there other any location right here in Beantown with its gonna be some sort of screening bash but it hit me if favorite meals. I have yes I have some conference through its screening until it's screening in and I also capped. I don't publicists and that take a screening but I think it's all private and -- You know public. While I don't deputy watches all these reality cooking show is clearly I do not I'm not allowed in the kitchen so there'll people who are excited. About the did the type of work in what they can glean what they can learn temperatures without going into too much detail about what you cooked on the show because I know Brad knows what clamps on that. Can you how does well is there anything that. Even someone like -- can make on this sort of a beautiful summer night. -- -- -- of things that mean you know we're that would challenge is that you know what that twenty minutes long. You know. You that it has vetoed a professional chef can only do that action twenty minutes. The need obviously there are lots of things that you can't tent is and we did the lot of it's an outdoor cooking B unit. You know all in all I think units. And the that it suggests that anyone actually asked the but couldn't because it's it is stressful. And then -- the great cubic -- we have seen a problem. And the cost all that such a great job with making sure that we have all the equipment that he needed all the ingredients that we needed in the and -- It -- it it's not it's not so easy that you're just going into an -- to pack it in shall going on. You're in Boston I'd -- I was. Cocktail waitress and -- -- in nice places especially on that and and you -- our shows about some of the shafts you hear about melt. It was the shepherd and actually chased in the shaft on the street. With a butcher knife and this is not a lot -- in the street broad daylight. Have you experienced anything like that in any of these high -- places you know -- and I. You worked in some of their Austin's hottest spots. You know it it's out there on the outbound but it's completely. The -- net. Consulates -- situation will still we snapped at says snap me back but you know each -- but -- -- -- that it's as. They've never snapped out of a customer out into the kitchen you know. What does it was -- Stanley Tucci when he had they had agreed to a restaurant stormed out and. You're gonna put she on the fashion what. Your personal opinion because you know my time friends go absolutely bananas Patricia and you I know you working closely with a friend and finally took a Puccio if you. What is your position on putting a little grated cheese I let's say spaghetti -- a bond LA. Am I have no problem and I think that food should be what you want. -- if you like she killed fish so threatening him. It's it's your own personal choices -- and eat it up -- -- your body it eating. Into the into the dining area and patents that went and requested grated cheese with this bad spaghetti and -- last. -- -- -- -- I know deputy that you watch on these great reality cooking shows like top chef masters and it airs on Bravo and Boston's own Patricia -- as one. The top -- do you do anything you jump and asked Patricia because. You. What are those fanatics about food. Do you do you think that. Deputy do you think that there should be more I don't know of these interactive reality shows. Deputy of the way up -- -- Patricia -- -- they think that you want people to know what can you tell us about how top chef master patents. I -- but it's pretty exciting and and you -- -- in beautiful city in and it'll and and Islamabad that the legislation. While we how wishing you well where it will be rooting view everything go busting goal busted you know what time did their show top chef masters there's an -- Bravo. -- -- locking on to my DVR for that. We immediately going to be cheering you Patricia and we really you will tonight's premiere. Thank you very much average out IP we are AM and six AD WR KLM ED these reality cooking shows. 6172666868. Have you able to. -- -- Inspired you to do any cooking. And I was that the little bloodletting. 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And people have their shelves lines. What all of the different ways in which you can show off a culinary skills it was wine cook but. And my home it was Betty Crocker and you pulled out and even though she tried to follow those recipes it seemed to me that the only thing -- ever make -- remember her making it and it was a real elaborate I. Maybe. Meat -- I I think my feeling part ketchup on. Everything. Catch him on the meatloaf at department Kraft macaroni and cheese the -- Ketchup on the tater tots and fish sticks what about -- 06172666868. These gays appalling coupled recipe cards and aid flowered -- cookbook are all dying. Do you think people really are -- On these reality shows like top chef masters. Patricia a year ago. And she just joined it and she will be on tonight's premiere on the Bravo network. Do you watch these shows to try to learn how to cook what is special day. So. Fascinated got a -- go home and cook like Patricia is not gonna happen. I would. Much prefer may be a meal that read that you Don isn't -- is repeats are all about any of that wonderful restaurants that we -- here in Boston another it's nice you sit outside. But I know a tiny people. Who actually stay home DVR -- shows and then get themselves all rolled up -- and food. Watching reality TB AU one of them. How did you learn how to -- 6172666868. On -- -- McPhee we are AM succeed at York else. Welcome back -- this isn't on the PV -- and -- CD WRK. 6172666868. Subplot all Patricia CEO -- I -- because she's going to be I -- those hot. -- reality cooking show -- top chef masters it's an air on Bravo tonight and she was with us right here to talk about that premiere. It's nice. I confess that I like the ones with people are. Dead. Raleigh and brawling in the -- like Gordon -- makes me laugh. And I don't know nothing about -- -- -- for all of you is to pull out 6172666868. Not I can't cook anything nothing. 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Drama. The wire -- day empty spots of the great shows on cable networks but and you prime example on demand. Storage wars. -- -- -- I storage water -- And the -- -- I I think are getting his own show the shirt he -- our own show he's so cool. So I did I expect it out loud at somebody was I was down in the country -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The -- -- And -- -- -- a storage awards. I don't want any interesting about watching people going to a junky old locker. I need to -- all the chaos of the lockers attraction bill that. I could never do. I love it I. Diamond in the rough thing you know you might find that -- It's -- And that's -- yeah. -- is. Now watching dancing with the dot com I don't ain't going to know that I'm watching on stars. And that usually is big mostly wealthy now figures show that they now. I hand at that American pickers are -- hard core part one of the trigger. An eight mile. 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Now he's definitely doesn't so you know. I have just confessed our darkest. Darkest secrets. They even though both of us professed to be avid readers. And lovers of fine culture and well written dramas. We'd all the all black storage wars. We both do I get right to bet it's I don't like I just happened to catch it on television I actually order what about you -- is not guilty pleasure. You know the whole thing is -- did still find itself get sucked in -- clock because of reality TV show. I -- historic beating auctions because of storage more than to tell you what. Is the reality show that you can confess and be exchanged a from the -- -- car show if you like confessed your reality show. Obsessions. Steve the lawyers said he learned how to cook from John Kerry's wife she had recipe book called sticky fingers. And a lot of -- ratified it. Three deeper on storage wars is another -- favorite I Y I NB. Brandy they'll find out -- your. 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I became familiar with -- -- the I haven't eaten any aircraft Rubin of -- I was. Planning to have repaired because it is about singled out -- I also love Chris Constantine L without so on that so this season. So I'm not so you know how that's. I mean arrogant about Barry from -- towards I don't know all of -- shots that I should be watching the show. And because. My friends who works in the building just told me that he loves not name. About people who live off the great in the was. Pictured on a -- like mountain men -- Tim Thomas. Loved him -- honestly I was the governor but I love -- but I went at it weird. That I love love love love his attitude and everything about -- rough and tumble in Sweden currently at the same guy he's. That beat Tim Thomas would not the brits aren't ones. That could possibly be an Anthony taken this year opt to get back in that incident with the without them maybe you never now. If we think Tim Thomas come -- man I'd watch that show every night they had it. That the patent everything mountain men I have seen stories why it's happening to me that they pay money. Parents they have no idea what the neck. I'm spot after tragedy. I -- -- I eighty arrogant to think like mountains and got it like that you -- about -- Pats are 978 tells us are you ready that's I want to -- storage options you wouldn't believe how much a couple of -- dollar bought a radar. -- I get. He getting unbelievable ratings as low budget show Erica before I go to the -- I have to ask if it was -- lizard -- telling untrue TB because. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Apple finally checked I'm right. I'm having impact in years past I watched the handled the people who we -- your car it -- but they had a career earpiece telling company on it -- -- that's in the unit. You know ever get it's telling companies all by Erica I you know I think you angry. -- -- -- Are you saying can I live too close to that in. 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You never know what's gonna happen next this is where customers find fast care. You sometimes lose their mind. You won't believe. Your fire once in stool. Right now. Wow I got a little while hardcore they're not potter stars deputy. I'm each other key we are and dictated by WRK out. You heard my confession I do watch storage wars it's a good reality show we talk about reality shows guess what I think Erica was right it is in trouble. Because remember Erica said hey it was a towing a reality show how low involving the tow truck company from here like Nike and you know on that. Telling healthy -- she said yeah I think it was -- today we just got a text from an anonymous person saying we shall. Jerry Jason and his two sons own DJ there has never been a television show at the minute. I -- Celtics thought Erica thanks a lot. Greg what you guilty pleasure out with Michelle victory. This. That gobble -- -- -- the back of the day. 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