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Tue, 24 Jul 2012|

If the media unwillingly makes the Colorado shooter into some kind of sick icon, do they bear responsibilty for copy cats?

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In central Massachusetts but south of the city down on the. So short watch -- for thunderstorms little bit of rain around the area today this morning right now. -- nothing serious light drizzle around Boston and going to be a good -- and lesser in the thunderstorms. I know I'm trying to figure out these out and I'm saying aggravated this morning about the automatic faucets. In the bathrooms this new phenomena I understand it's a good idea because he uses less water end. You don't have to touch the faucets which is civilian are good in terms of spreading germs but. Why are they soul unwilling to give you water -- notice this coach you know out of seven are bathrooms here wash your hands. We have to consciously throw your hands Indonesians and everything -- and but even -- -- three seconds that stops and it starts all email of your hands are there to be I don't think it's ever in the water bet that bothers me it's the automatic soap. On dispensed they have put your hands under and what's your problem with that because it never dispenses soap. About so you have to keep Carly and open try to do assume a couple times. But it's a good idea but why I just feel like they're trying to rip us off on the water there be an overly stingy. It should have the issue give me two seconds. Of water after it's lost the signal that you're trying to get water you know. Just to give -- about break why -- several wrestling match for the damn thing the -- a few ounces of water. The -- -- to say about that so this main guy is fascinating. I've I was talking -- -- we spend an inordinate amount of time trying to figure the scatter her I think we're having an argument and I'm not sure about what but I was making the point. That. This guy in May. I thought this headline I like cops main man ready to shoot old boss. And then there's a secondary heading took a gun to bad man showing now that's the big headline that we're hearing around the country and around Boston. About this guy in Maine. Cops. Main. Man took a gun to bat man showing. No why is that news. Do you think. In an average hitter with two or 300 people wonder if there aren't several people caring guns. Here's a story one time greats employee. Added an insurance agency who police said was speeding across Maine. Would designs of shooting his old boss had an arsenal of weapons in his sports car. And later told cops he brought a loaded gun to a showing of the new Batman film know the interesting part -- disguise his confessions. -- -- -- 49. Also have press clippings they say last week's car a movie theater mask her and his brand new mustang. When police clocked him at get this 112. Miles. Per hour. Cops pulled him over sunny morning in the Maine turnpike inside the car they found an AK 47 assault rifle for handguns. And several boxes of ammunition that according to state police who say they later discovered at his home -- machine gun. In about 101000 rounds of ammunition. The startling discovery became. Even -- or police said that when court twice said he was on his way this she is offered up. He's -- by the way I'm driving to Derry New Hampshire so I can shoot. My former employer. Guys obviously crazy I it was obviously knots it would seem. Ian Pattinson it's a big story I don't understand why -- -- thinking this is just some routine grander event that have I think it's a -- random nut job with guns here's a nice job that went to the baton and Dark -- movie out. With weapons in his automobile yes he would press clippings of the recent shooting in Colorado it's yeah obviously was attempting or faking out of a copycat crimes I don't think that's obvious he said he he'll hold on. Yeah he went to a movie theater yes with guns in his car yeah. In munition in his car you know give press clippings of the shooting and he went to see the same movie that the shooter went to see this as did every American must now. In music that's just say routine well he went suitable and what -- Quincy was a movie had a gun on them which I'm sure a lot of people do and he didn't use the gun. Then when pulled over by police he said he was on his way to New Hampshire to kill somebody. So he we know what his purpose with the guns was it wasn't just shoot up the -- -- skills old boss he might have had a change of heart while news of the moving a possible -- you don't want there's no evidence of that though. And the press clippings they had -- -- a press clippings. We are right so this guy who drives his mustang a 112 miles per hour gives an arsenal in his must say he goes home any. Cuts out pieces of newspapers say -- favorite stories and carries them around in the car with -- that said guys I'm not accepting that fact on face value because with one word like that and the newspapers can totally twister sort. But anyway I I just find it amusing. Because I saw so many news stories on TV yesterday. Where they say cops main man took a gun to a bad man movie. And I'm thinking don't be able to let every day and don't people take items to the movies every day I don't think. I don't think if you wanted to any random theory you'd find one person with a guy and I don't think that's -- you weren't so I think who happens even in Massachusetts I think I don't think that happens you really don't know. I don't think so. You think people now gallop this. Go to a movie theater may be a fight someone with a concealed weapon with but the permit to carry with they have an AK 47 a handgun and shotgun and assault rifle. In their trunk with box is always a vague notion that I mean I tonight that guy has our and the guy fits the profile of someone who committee copycat crime. He was laid off from his prince's former job cracked. You mean the guy and area Hampshire yeah. The main guy that was arrested young he we -- we don't know he may be currently employed this is an example of of the media over hyping the crime all the criminal. You know vindictive. This James Holmes face is everywhere and ecology here earlier this guy's a rehash AG saw what happened in color was laid off from his job is there's there's reports are saying. And he felt slighted in some way in his life and he won every tragedy so we'll look at this this kid is getting all this publicity. What a wonderful thing and I'm not getting any thing and I'm gonna go down -- -- on the same road. So you think he bought these guns over the weekend. -- -- must have I think he had them. The so -- boggles the guns are -- reaction. I think he's may be mad that this he's been. Gearan up he's got all these guns and now other people again more limelight than him. That's because he volunteered all the stuff for a coach. The -- the same feel guilty James Holmes volunteered all the stuff for the cops and they found everyone knows Africa so much this guy all he did we got pulled over for speeding he lets put this right he obviously got to the theater had cold feet. And decided he wasn't going to do it but the setup of him go into that movie -- is the same exact thing that happened Colorado he went to the movie theater. He had the guns in this car he weigh in and watch the movie I'm sure he was contemplating going out the car afterwards to get. Just like James homestead I'm sure that's exactly what happened. It's not a nothing story its its that's no I'm not saying that's like he'll be able randomly just carry AK forty general what movies -- you go to and having AK 47 as a -- -- -- does -- -- -- -- -- -- -- a lot of -- carry -- -- -- don't realize that they -- -- -- -- they -- -- -- they don't carry -- to the Dark -- movie and then also have the a -- the hundreds of weapons -- car afterwards -- ammunition that and then get pulled I'd say I'm not I I press clippings of the shooting that just took no place this guy's a whack job I'm not denying that I don't remind them running the story I just. I just think it's funny that they run the story well really saying why it's an important story -- there's the suggestion. That this somehow there was a threat but there's no evidence there is a threat he's just that he's a nut job with guns he said he was gone and she shooters. His boss but the headline that I see all over the place is took a gun to bad man showing. But in and you lose a gun at the bad man showing and I think there's probably a lot of -- there's another story -- if you have a front view but I put it in a -- pile about the -- he was in Seattle fed stood up in the middle of the dark -- there's I wish I had a guy and I'd -- all of you -- These are just people who are obviously unhinged. And they they want some satisfaction. That their life as it is more meaningful. And they see James Holmes getting all this publicity from the media so we. Why does that is already unhinged they don't understand there's a lot of and in this isn't good publishing you're worried about copycats. That's exactly -- yes and we should -- be worried about copycats absolutely I think that's probably why Obama. And Carney in the rest of them are trying to say let's not say the guy's name is silly as that sounds. And I don't agree with -- -- -- guys in -- stupid but do we have to put his picture on the front page of every newspaper with silly little headlines like the Joker has his day in court. As if this guy isn't what you live in a Khartoum. Comic book reality the Joker has his day in court is is what's flashing up on the on the screen ravenous kids showed -- being shown on Fox News or whatever. He's sick -- -- making amounts actually be the Joker this kid is getting tough now but if they're saying he's living so -- fantasy world is a bizarre period but they're saying he's living in a fantasy world is imprisoned spitting at the guards he thinks he's the Joker. And what does the media doing -- giving him. The says fraction of being. The Joker what -- tell you the person or what cycle isn't courting killed seventeen people that's all we don't have stuck there -- and are -- Tiger bit can you imagine you're not running your picture all you can run the pitcher -- have to column the Joker and come up with some silly. Stupid little headline over like the Joker has his day in court. I mean really that's ridiculous and that -- like the what happened in Maine yesterday happens that's well our best what happens after you -- Hyped this guy like -- 6173666868. Is is there -- -- in danger of copycats and should the media be behaving differently. With regard to route to regards to the crime in Colorado. It didn't I I don't know how you resist big photographs as a matter fact The Herald shows great restraint today. They only have a little box with a photograph of the guy looking confusing court and the headline is would gun control laws have stopped and it's not about. The joke -- has his day in court which I think would have been a more of tabloid ish approach and more fund. Julia are you good morning. Good morning what do you I agree with the -- everything except that carry part. Every gay men women carry firearms. In movie theaters shopping mall. They don't go out shoot anybody did not gonna copycat. But this Eric definitely will run against. But this David did not a guy that -- -- third air critics have made it doesn't have a firearm. Today's -- I it's as bad. That's 64 year old man -- two guys -- -- but it got it back -- that it kept -- Florida. And I do love it -- right around new Englander of the law is different. About whether you can no I carry concealed weapon. Yet each state -- its own rules. Myself but license in Massachusetts Maine and New Hampshire. I'm not a -- to Joseph maybe maybe they're more people carry concealed weapons and I know then I think there are. That's -- that they are -- I don't wanna know it also gave an AK 47 in the trunk -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Well or how is the press the press doesn't care about a platform in the press says a great story it's got a picture redhead with a size -- out of his head. How are they gonna I'm gonna overrun that -- -- why sensational why isn't -- -- are not Margaret Joker. George as a court and look at the straight talk nod nod thirty seconds after this story broke on MSNBC CNN Fox News. Channel every channel every news channel up there. We have -- this big music and and everybody have their own you don't movie massacre in Colorado lake it's a movie. And in this is why people people do things like this of people. Sit in the movie scared thinking this is part of the movie because we've been desensitized on the stuff because it does become a news story were we should be horrified. It becomes entertainment bump -- home movie massacre. I'm really the and here's a joke -- -- cool that coming up at noon are you serious. Mass murdering your training plays Jack Nicholson weekend and then Mike okay should be walking him this is bad and we live edit capitalist society that I want a society it's still -- girl and boy can absolutely disgusting you how many people leave then went to get to the Christian Science Monitor get their coverage to describe. They're not insisted they like the flash Bobby -- RK a good morning. Exploit I don't know what's going on you know why I hate to say about them. I have to say -- I love that's gonna be about epic called seaside on this I'm not a not a lot of free to disagree. So glad I got hot button. -- -- better -- up the bedeviled have a good attitude so maybe you guys just was later one of these days they'll let you read this show when not I don't what what are they had a this time it's Iowa meanwhile. -- you have the shot -- pepper you with stuff however I doubt they are moderate area. Yeah I got up according -- I can probably do a -- so what's your so you think what what exactly. Because cook cook cease -- off a lot of rapid fire machine gun AK 47 points there. What's which ones you -- I I agree with iGoogle thing I think that he would not -- and I don't think -- -- sensationalize them in the paper. Are any of these. So so what is you looks that you want the TV networks and then a local lose and and the newspapers to show restraint. I -- and not print photographs of I want them -- response unless -- Bob what are you are answering for him. LA -- now he's he's -- and so be watch out go ahead Bob. But that you had gotten our group within the data -- -- the I'm just I think I I don't agree -- blog about -- government statement I just think -- dead people. But nowadays people just bought it bought the sensational but they just want to get bit stay with a paper they want to have this crazy ever go like this aren't you know. I'll tell you what I would have done if I was the Boston Globe right on the publisher of the globe. They ran a big photograph through the red -- court I would have made it bigger crossed the whole front page and I -- Britain whack job in court. And then I would have different psychologists having a debate over what's wrong with the guy I did -- -- people wanna hear. That yeah exactly. Exactly that's what people idea that you -- -- newspapers have driven it this way I think it. Well I don't believe how easily blame -- -- I got bought out there are boring newspapers out there one last time you bought one. Bell while I realize I mean this you don't -- that's about it you what do you what -- -- the room you know why I haven't bought and newspaper -- because the port or vice. It's like I hope -- write an -- I need to read the news free online what do you need to pay that kind of money for thank you Bobby did a great job be careful on route to their especially down and think about the old days though lake. From Cronkite announced that Kennedy had -- died young and there was no bomb bomb bomb death in Texas. There -- just -- news this is this is what's going on your world today. And now it's -- flashy graphic I was a much -- -- -- you'd sound we have pictures he have a flashy voice over. It's pathetic it's absolutely -- that was a better world -- good morning GO. Hello Margaret. What's what's happen. No not at all. Just -- him go ahead another question mark your all set. Out of Ctrl+Alt a are not complete agreement with partly that reason being because. The words that immediately. Had a big impact on society and the fact that they're. Desensitized to it by saying -- a -- -- has -- -- court and even though that's not play on words. As a major effect on the way people view saying that this is the horrific crime which could be described as much. You know I don't need -- CC did the stuff that bothers me more is every TV newscast is ending with little tributes to those who died in. I that I that kind of pandering bothers me more where they're showing sympathy where they don't feel sympathy and there. Added there dramatized. And I think that's more damaging this stuff to me is just the silliness of how you -- EU had your retention costs. -- how do you feel about almost tributes. I'm. Well attribute me and I think that it -- help the people who are grieving just defeat at a loved one who got injured or killed our. Changed yet they're recognizing that -- acknowledging that. But I'm not a condition continuation -- which just reached just perpetuating that the. Sure you know I agree with -- it was a where -- those things I hate that then because to me it's emotional it's pandering. On -- most -- there's a few hundred people who were directly affected are few thousand people Colorado but every station in the country. Is treating this like it's a local home the tragedy. And trying to get people emotionally involved and telling stories ad nauseam but you know why they do it. Because people -- far -- story. How about something sad that happened that they can connect to. Because we all have sadness in our lives right so it's cathartic for us we don't necessarily care that much about -- Colorado. We have our own pain. And then we believe we build a connection to the pain that's going on elsewhere because it allows us to express our opinion. You know so so the TV stations do this pandering they're pandering to our our -- and emotional side the argument cook she's making I think I think the the in the foundation of it is to say. That. What we need from the news is not to be our shrinks. Not to be our friends. Not to pander to a simply games CS emotionally hooked just tell us what happened. We can deal with the rest of our lives but if you watch what people do what they're viewing habits they watch the TV stations that have the most health casts. To tell the most stories about animals. -- half fires and car crashes. That given news essentially that's irrelevant. To the concept of what news is supposed to be. So if forgot -- object let's -- across the board to have -- capitalism in the news if you wanted to be dry if you want NPR and PBS to handle it. If you want it's all have a leftist slant whatever Steve mirror RKO good morning. Good morning I don't I'm doing well -- Today I completely agree with you I think I think the nationalization allows the the sensationalizing. -- Bob all these stories is just horrible all and it's very irresponsible I mean you know what we see we should know what can use for entertainment. In out and -- people. Irresponsible of us. Exactly -- society. That you -- now I just sauces people you know all this happens because -- vote with our money. Right right jackets and now the other day didn't do did I hear story of votes that he was dressed like -- -- trying to wanted to sit in what the cops to get away. Because what I saw. -- -- this storm was that the cops work -- -- the chief of police was complementing his officers. Because he dressed in such a manner as to be confused with admit that the cost could have been confused and thought he was one of there swat team or something. But yeah -- but we I don't know if that was part of a plan or something. Right I think they see my -- hair. Trying to stood out I might have blown his -- I think site -- nonetheless some SR an officer with. Radian. Rid air. Might have been here and a hidden under their hats. Last time -- good morning. -- order -- like this straight couple appreciate irreplaceable book or it's always automatically -- in a couple of callers go ahead. Outlook depending at my theater in the sort now a lot of the June 2000 words -- the only. Yeah. You know why I use those cliches really well because you made sure they offered absolutely no insight into the conversation. Now that's such don't think about it at all so they couldn't do you know there's sensationalize it on TV with pictures young Ben. You could -- they're really easy -- just a couple of words. But back to Colorado. He said chairing government and -- return it's hot it's weird that it was Colorado nobody shot back that this kid that China really. Weird. The food is -- and wins also too bad. -- do while there was nobody there carrying a parent says it's against. And then they weren't so. -- release candidate run in the whatever I don't know. Oh no it's still -- Aurora Aurora Harris. Aurora has very tough fog gun laws so I believe they have the you know allowed to concealed carry -- that end and the movie theater bands in the movie theater bands in so we don't. -- but still he would have expected somebody to have some guns in there. And it's too bad they didn't because I think a couple people -- -- would have -- per -- it's nice offense I don't think this kid what of hung around too long. If he had hit if you sickening 'cause you probably wouldn't have done it if he knew that there was a possibility yes some would be. You know shooting back -- -- he would have gone searching for a town at least that. You know made it easier form. Scott good morning. Good morning -- I can do I agree it would open you actually I think -- bankruptcy right. Bit because I am the big -- should we not we should not. -- putting all this out front page news. It's not pesos so they got in the unit itself and -- wallpaper in his cell block. We've all it would -- -- it is is she not been lights. But I can guarantee we view but bottom. God because. -- -- -- It's if you look at what happened before this everyone was talking about Obama and how he loses it has socialism. Way to -- I was -- And I think the media is. Is trying to drag it to help I bet this is gonna be -- beaten dragged out or at least two weeks and get. -- real problems of America aren't the cable that's what the way I look at. -- you see this is a media apply to cover up on behalf of Obama. I think I think perhaps I appreciate that this is gonna this this is the way -- About keeping all the problems in America right now the unemployment. -- eight ever bet troubled economy. You know that that -- stormed back into another recession. They always -- -- -- electorate. -- -- to get another way to end. Could put not -- happened just below what they want Obama elected. Not could be I don't find someone I don't think I agree with Scott on on that. Because if if you care never know what's going on in the country following the presidential race you'll find the news and information you want. Regardless of what the TV show you. And but I don't think a large military people care enough at this point about what's going on country they want this type of stuff it's it's not being taken from them. Well intentioned -- few publishing news -- you run net TV news -- what you're looking for is something that grabs your viewers your readers away from the out of the competition. And you can't etc. -- it -- -- you can't afford not to have Joseph Thornton has his day in court grabs it now what's not the Euro banks absolutely no wind no one knows enough about so care we have to conflict can't be mad at the media. All they're doing is give us we'll we'll be mattered to me why -- eventually if they perform the news is a public service. Well there right what is should be -- -- paid so -- of a silent day in court big photograph of this bizarre creature. That's floating around and we're not -- -- -- our cable television news not so much the newspaper I was talking about -- two different things. I don't think so I think it's the same principal the TV news. She's its TV daily news is not news it's it's TV -- half -- however entertainment -- you know they deleted packages on Dancing With The Stars to promote their own networks. And they spent thirty seconds on you know the state budget Bobby -- -- -- hi Bob. Or good morning and government. I'd like to take just that more narrow view not not so much -- -- selfish view but as they scanned through the search through the channels you know collect from the medical field are trying to really really disturbing information an attorney in the fairway. Both professional medical field and let you know trial lawyers. Prosecuting potential orders. The seat upon which that the media has put out this notion that doctors. Wouldn't want to treat Asian analyzing eight photographed these psychiatrist out or all you guys on there. Reading so much into this and coming aboard definitive diagnosis is especially the one outpost saying that -- already had -- -- -- made -- to keep want to control. Now that's the last week's news leaks -- speculation. Yet naive but it cannot -- -- obviously look forward knowing what it was disturbing to me saying it had a psychiatrist could come that. In certain that I I did do the bar association -- medical association here really have reprimands are people. You know leaving people on their way to assist parties would never give medication to it got tour -- they wanna get accurate information atom -- you know it. Well Lola -- -- do you want to what does he was so disturbed though that he was Saddam they were you don't think he was behavior I brought the Irish out there -- nobody may eighth then this guy's obviously mentally ill or gray. QKM but you cannot force and medication unless in -- that you know determined that you you know you need that they had chairs and they haven't restraint device. So they would have to restrain him and then go and according get permission. To put him on drugs is -- saying this interest in David ER RKO high. What's up -- Out of -- and how we are doing well thank you call. I'm a little bit nervous up there with great cutting -- here. In all I unless and until this every single day every single I wanna get all worked an eight beta quality about the media. -- at detonate the world search a small place. That you know everybody expects that this has happened right down the street from well. That's real that's not do this I mean yeah when you take the percentage of the people in the country the other sockets this sentiment as tragic as it is. That you talk like only the general Gerald L 6%. Of their take that traction. And that and that's sensationalized it and they use -- other political agenda. What we do get distorted perceptions is no question did David I heard somebody talk about child abductions the other day. And they said there are about a hundred of them a year in the United States America 300 million people that would mean roughly a hundred million children. And 100 abductions -- year and half of those abductions no I'm sorry 80% of those abductions. Are done by somebody known to the child so -- there is 820.