Avi Nelson - Movie Theater Massacre
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Many are still searching for answers following a devastating and deadly shooting at an Aurora, Colorado movie theater during a midnight showing of “The Dark Knight Rises.” Officials held a press briefing Friday night to provide updates on what is being called the “Colorado Movie Massacre.” Avi discusses this terrible tragedy, the impact it has, and Brian Rosses "mistake."
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This is Don Nelson walked into the program. We hope you'll join us for the next couple of hours. No guess schedule so. I'm concentrating on stories in the news and use the phone dollars. The phone number toll free 87746943. Team team. Text message code can be sent its X 8680. Email address. -- Nelson WR Kerio dot com. Well -- to impossible. To the in the program where that focusing on the violence of the week. There's wall to wall coverage in the media about what happened in Aurora. -- know as horrible as it is twelve people dead 58 people injured. You watch that television and they just don't have enough to -- surely go through things over and over again. The doing profiles on this guy. From people who don't know this guy who never interviewed the guy this James Holmes. Amanda yeah I don't know what we're getting that we have a thirst to understand. How such a thing could happen. But the reality is that some things are just beyond understanding. We have 300 million people in this country. Parishioner you know a few billion elsewhere. Out of 300 million you are going to find some aberrations. Some people who are just -- in behavior. Then there's not going to be any easy explanation. You know I don't know what went on with James holder. You know when the bodies sometimes breaks the minds sometimes breaks and so hawk -- gone Sharif still alive. But now here we have this atrocity. That everybody is obsessed with even though and any given day there are more than twelve people killed that there more than twelve people killed. Billion Chicago. Around my daily but over the course of time. Incidentally you've been blown off the pages the front pages of the newspaper. But I do want you to talk of momentarily. About the the murdering the bombing in. Bulgaria. And the reason they they were Israelis but the reason I want to focus I just for a moment the -- -- because of -- of which seems to be almost on unrestrained violence. Because the proper trader of dive bombing. And guy name may be bizarrely. Just Swedish citizen. Was released from gitmo a few years ago. -- for all people say I'll get more clothes and we have cherished thing humane methods here's what happens when you release these -- they go back in -- again. We may not be able to explain James Holmes. But because all -- That one we could have seen coming. -- he was already in there for being perished tennis shoes you left with help from the Swedish government by the way. He returned Jewish terrorist wave. Homeless doesn't appear remained connected with any organization. Despite what we will get to momentarily. Brian Ross and ABC. Coming up with the initial story that there's a connection to the Tea Party. That is just tell he's a -- there aren't. -- aren't were original language. To which to describe what this guy -- -- now. We're -- have a long protracted wait until he comes to trial which is part of the -- with our system. Known -- dollar son who perpetrated the mask herd for record to. Push two and half years ago he still hasn't come to trial. Then lord knows how long it'll be still Holmes comes to trial and then some lawyer will be out there you know the defense. The thanks going to be not guilty by reason of insanity. Well luck of course she's insane. If you -- this is the definition of insanity. This is the poster referring same behavior. But I've never understood that defense that excuse. I -- -- not that I don't understand lawyers using it. I don't understand why it's in our legal vocabulary. What difference does it make to me. If someone is murdered. People whether he could tell right from wrong. Why is that an excuse for not actually -- We -- some some -- comes and kills your daughter. War or kills members of your family or your neighbors. What difference does it make why is it an excuse didn't know right from wrong and so watch. And by the way if there were swift execution here and I mean capital punishment. Maybe you would send a good message to others I know that people will say well this isn't rational well I don't know whether it is or isn't. But people on the margin might get a message and the rest of us would feel better. That this -- taken out of society 300 million people we don't need him. -- Ki moon prism of their shivers like you pay the 50000 dollars a year. As an aside just comes to mind -- I'm saying saying these words. So program recently on. The other person was in Massachusetts -- some mid Atlantic states mean women imprisoned. Now -- for a little there's seventy channel surfing. And. Every one of them was overweight. I mean everyone was fat. -- save some money when cut back on the food we're feeding them. But James Holmes now we'll be awarded the state for the rest of his life. Unless she even worse like Hinckley member of the guy who shot Reagan. Some psychiatrists -- few years Don the road declaring cured. And then we'll be able to get out and probably doing yen. If you're just joining us good afternoon. This is on the notion we've begun the program with at least some remarks about the atrocity in Aurora. It's still dominates the news. They're going into the apartment trying to get rid of the booby traps and so on so forth. This was of course this took place at a movie theater or midnight showing. The new Batman movie. And I am O'Shea you know what that the risk of sounding like you start blaming the victim which I'm not doing that -- them. They talked about that the youngest victim was a six year old child. Ichiro -- -- a terrible tragedy. But dare we ask the question what is a six year old doing and a midnight movie about them. Her mother I guess is in critical condition she's 25 so you know I'm sorry I really am but what what. It's does that make sense because it doesn't to me. That you bring a six year old to -- midnight movie on anything. But that doesn't mean of course that. There's any kind of justification for that. The poll numbers 87746943. Q2 if you want to weigh in on this show I wrote there is to say. Commercial you can you can use have they cycle analysis like all the professionals are doing on television and radio. Text message coaching change -- -- Email address -- Nelson wrko.com. I mentioned earlier that there is one aspect of this set was interesting very early on. When nobody knew exactly who. Moved James Holmes was a which James home. Brian Ross on ABC news. Went on where the speculation. That who's connected to the Tea Party. Just -- outrageous. Thing to do now there has been an -- subsequent apology. By ABC and Brian Walsh or at least that's that's been reported by the network. But here's the clip. This year is George Stephanopoulos. Anchoring. And Brian Ross is one among those who was talking about what has happened in Aurora Colorado Bruntlett. -- go to Brian roster they're trained -- looking into CNN -- came home she found something. There might be significant -- in -- homes Aurora Colorado page. On the Colorado Tea Party site as well. Talking about can join the Tea Party last year and now we don't know if this is the same -- homes lose and Jim Hall was a war. Colorado okay he's okay that I trust thanks very much as the daughter Sam. Now the original left -- less slash party the social Blase they are muddle through and first -- waters somebody's reputation and then I'll go whether. That Stephanopoulos -- -- -- tell you what's going on. But what's finishing here's fresh -- Jim Holmes yours they're now they're now on and on a first name diminutive bassist Jimmy homes down their bodies. Why did that story get out there Brian Ross is no cub reporter. Why was even looking at Tea Party pages I wonder if you look at black panther pages or. Democrat activist pages because she was there even if Holmes was associated with the Tea Party which he is knocked to different James Holmes. He would've been an appropriate to bring that into it but Ross without vetting the story. -- that out there. Of course were the James Holmes that he did reference. Immediately -- concerned about you know. Yeah and I think he took -- the -- off the -- it didn't didn't answer any kind of calls at the door because he has this reputation now -- slaughtered. And Ross just cavalierly throws without checking it. Now an apology is insufficient. He'll be fired at the very least reprimand and then fine. I don't know what you -- ABC and I don't know all the James Holmes Jim homes that Brian Ross referenced. You correctly on the LP as legal action. Josh for the heck of it. I understand commission that Glenn Beck did something similar to know if he did fine. I'm sporting a quick computer searched. And I put the name Brian Ross the end. Just to see what came up. So here we go. Mother of three headline. The other three Brian James McCain rocks. So you don't Brian -- was too little lynch. Brian James McCann Ross who taught -- full -- full forward school in New York. Has been jailed for two years for abusing a boy who lived in the city. He started his sexual crimes on his victim when his victim was twelve. And continued them for four years between 1979. And 1984 now I should immediately say we don't know. That this is the same Brian Ross. What is here and unlike George Stephanopoulos we're not gonna cut to the weather. The Dow is one story here's one from the Texas Tribune this is -- three Brian Ross -- No we don't know maybe age may -- Brian Ross dropped his first name because of the record twelve years Jewish sense. He yelled you lie driving on touch you can. This is in Texas we don't know if it's the same Brian -- But it's -- here and and one more. Brian Ross this warned -- -- -- -- to worry about first Linda Miller and Brian or loss this is a state of alliance got. Brian Ross was convicted after -- pleading no contest. Two and that usually charge. On two counts of second degree murder and now I'll quickly added we don't know that it's the same Brian launched. But you know if it it does say that in Alaska convicted. Two counts of second degree murder. Howard Brian Ross field we started circulating national. Now the -- Brian Ross on ABC news questions are well known figure. So we were probably immediately get on and be able to defend himself but when you're talking about it and individual who is. Just day. An obscure person and only an obscure in the name negative sense but simply not a luminaries -- shall liberty. This kind of stuff is devastated. And Brian Ross doesn't doesn't see that with a quick computer search and I don't think I spent five minutes generating knee surgery. If he doesn't know that you have to do more than just -- a photo page -- -- party girl throwing out there okay George thanks let's hear about the weather. You don't do that -- And an apology. Is insufficient. And talked about stimulating violence and being irresponsible. Okay my thoughts are welcome. Page 774694322. Is a phone number that -- and also we've started today with the the shooting the killings in Colorado. And which you'd like to. Join 87746943. Due to his tool for number 68680. Is the text message code. And the email address and Nelson wrko.com. The -- from -- family obligation to supervise mentally ill members. So you don't these guys know we were mentally ill. Let's see 617. On the being a bitter clinger might not be such a bad idea after all. From a concern patriot that of course a reference to there. The Obama remark in the last campaign about. You better if you bitter clinging to guns and religion. We'll get to Obama little thereon none in the context of Aurora but in other context all right. Let's go to the telephone line to 87746943. To choose the phone number. And -- your first up this afternoon thanks for being the icebreaker. Well our criteria that is not Brian -- Look a that didn't occur to me but I'm glad that the clarification. I. Thought I would lead you Burton what ears to hear in the air tonight I'm always admired in the thank you -- -- I mean -- don't. -- thank you for the kind words. You that you didn't yoga department may want to win this major Nadal guys not only we could have years god and our government don't -- -- this is workplace violence. Yeah this little absurd. That's right yeah -- we can't say that he's he's not a Muslim terrorist because it's not politically correct. That drag and death. You know I -- IBERIABANK. Well let's look at that. This year if it strikes a responsive chord in new line called back another time low will be able in the -- point is well taken in the fact that. That -- has even come to trial yet. After all this time. Shows that the swift justice that we used to believe then is not being implemented by air system. -- -- I'm Brian thanks for calling. -- 87746943. -- that try to after. After all these crimes -- mention everybody named Brian -- can be looking over shoulder right. The owner of Cody Ross on the Red Sox is related wonder Cody is a nickname for Brian. 8774694322. Brad you're next on the program good afternoon. You realized Glenn Beck was so I think parenting Brian Ross and what he did that's what I think from what they -- that's what he was doing. Well I made the -- -- that says simply heard about it but I did the computer search on my own. And I suppose this is a form of parity what I would I was pointing out a course Brad was that. And he's a real I didn't make these up by the way these are actually done you can do the computer search yourself. But that's how one of those stories too we was inheriting this. This sloppy reporting -- Brian Ross that's really what it. And that's what I'm doing to I just think it's inexcusable. For Brian Ross who is inexperienced reporter. To go on the air. And started slaughtering some innocent person's reputation. And start bringing in the Tea Party and when he hasn't checked distortions. But hopefully the hopefully out. You know what my remarks will generate a lot of and I say angry comments about you know all of whenever there's something like this the gun control people. Come out and say -- we need more gun control. There -- even -- aren't there already coming out. Yes. Well -- I regret that. What did what this guy what's his name frank Holmes this shooter real may have been was sort of black -- Person who was I'm connected to -- an offshoot of the Occupy Wall Street people the way he was stressed it was just like the black. -- people I've he had no lump. -- tracks leading use a credit card a card except her as the black -- Atticus don't do any live Batman movie had this dom. Villain who was an Occupy Wall Street type character and I think he was dressed. As. As our mass out of her estranged homeless was stressful I think James told shoveled people because he was -- -- Well you know look he is -- first of all I have no idea whether he has any affiliation with any organization number one number two. Even if he does an -- it's an organization that I dislike intensely like say the occupy age group. That doesn't mean he's representative of the of the group. And thirdly I think Brad there one of the things this is supposed to teach us is that we are wait. To find out the facts before we just hurl things out there and maybe get people into trouble. I usually get you through the average there's another aspect ballpark from Brian Ross being just downright irresponsible. And the assault on this. Innocent individuals reputation lord knows how many James Holmes is there aren't. The strike me as a particularly. You know unusual or weird name it's it's not like that guy from the -- Gary and murderer. There are many Gonzales you know you find many because Ali. He'll likely got the right guy. But James Holmes I don't know but but the Tea Party aspect of it why was she even looking. In that direction. And do you look at left wing activists. English so eager to bring on something that would disparage the Tea Party. That he violated his own code of ethics as a journalist went on national television. And -- fish out before he had checked it before he admitted it that's why they apologized to. I'm saying the apology isn't good enough. -- an example how should be made of these irresponsible. Guys who just -- brings out there. And then when the damage is done hope that -- sorry didn't mean it let's go to the weather. Well on a more serious no we have bills to pay back on the other side with more of your calls I'm on the Nelson. Welcome back this is Don Nelson we have begun the program today. Talking about Aurora Colorado all the murderers and murder are. And -- Brian Ross. -- from ABC news correspondent really. These. The error that he made. Question whether intentional or not where he talked about James Holmes. -- don't connect with the Tea Party turn out to be any different James Holmes. ABC and Brian rush later apologized -- That's where we are in terms of the program and for those you just joining us all. Mentioned that I did it quick computer search and read earlier three Brian -- is -- convicted of various crimes. And put them over the air with the same the same disclaimer that Brian Austin -- we don't know which is saying Brian Ross but we'll start out there anyway. That's where we are -- who devote more time because people called emerged in much. I guess you what's going on the wall to wall coverage of of -- mentioned Aurora. Telephone number 8774694322. Text message code 68680. Email address and Nelson WRK -- dot com Charlie good afternoon your next on the program. Buyout is. Quiet -- that I like that you had a very short -- that I was pretty close and its name. I used to like Brian Ross so hourly catalog and kind of I want some really good stories and and this totally -- Marty. -- with him doing and I thought he was one of the few people look at. What sort of the old school that would verify at least to a police source of -- want to polish that show I would say -- the state and I just can't believe he did it. I know and yet you know I did play declare happen and it's all over the and the airwaves as I've seen the video on that and there's no doubt what he. Of what he did and what he said. -- Look at I suppose the charitable interpretation here is city made a mistake but boy that's up pretty bad mistake to make and it's just such an obvious one. That you wonder how -- that kind of error -- Kirk. But he shattered right on -- army. And listen in this may or may not be canceled why are you leaving sang it. Exactly. And that's why that's why when I did the Brian Russell threw in the same disclaimer all of their may not be the Brian Ross but let's launderers drug occasion anyway. I mean that's it's remarkable you a sophomore in high school and even terms you know working at the station. Learning the ropes would be reprimanded for making that kind of mistake. Eight to be reprimanded you know I am not well we should lose his job but that the issue be without papers six months. Something like that there ought to be our final -- the or something or other IEL a simple apology just. -- throwing out some words to me this strikes me is insufficient. It's it's still there are anyway thank. Thanks for calling Chara. And you know keep in -- it wasn't just that he found a James Holmes. He found -- James or take home -- homes. There are connected with the Tea Party. How convenient. Didn't do any checking nothing as -- by the way as if even if you were associated with the Tea Party. That this is somehow worthy of mention. That states what it is just representative. Mr. Ross of the tea parties -- -- hinting at. After all didn't say anything else about this this Jim Holmes. George found a Democrat I'll bet there's a change Holmes who's a Democrat somewhere in in the Aurora vicinity. But to -- representative. Of the Democrat party or the democratic activists. -- throughout it's it's such an absurd connection. To make. And of course changed in questions. Why was she even looking it. I'd like to know if you looked in other places I just the whole thing just disintegrates. -- you're next on the program good afternoon. It happened and how they felt really that the another example I would irresponsible reporting from the blood stream media. And they know that many people here false report and then repeat it to others accomplishing their goal by putting patriotic Arab Americans. -- party members and -- of life -- I can't see any other reason -- that. And I -- -- I've learned anything over the years. You have a trust the initial reporting always a wait until more information comes out to make any kind of a judgment -- -- -- what the issue it. Yeah you know it reminded me as you're saying it Otto Von Bismarck the the great German. Leader on the nineteenth century. -- a comment which is a little bit different from what you're saying you should never believe anything in in. From a politician until has been officially denied. Such it's the same thing now Schumer -- brought up earlier on just before you. That Brian Reich was presumably one of the better ones -- what that means in the you know like I haven't owned any of Brian Ross in the Aspen. -- is seriously. Since I left Vietnam and in 1969. Not second sixty yes sixty ninth. I'll play I cannot stand to watch -- listen to any reporting from any other major networks. It is just so -- really I just can't believe I can't I can't steal or some sort. And don't rush you right they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt neither ABC -- Brian Ross deserves the benefit of the doubt here that they had. He consistently left wing by Ashland and here on the on the major networks. And so you know and here's another example which you showed the beginning is exactly what happens first they throw it out. And then hill for a few disclaimers but the damage is done and this this from. Repeated emphasis about how -- Tea Party with a violent ones touched just Hampshire remember with Rick the shooting of of a -- real congresswoman get -- Merv and same thing happened always. -- because of the well and civil conversation of the right -- nothing to do with that. Thank you. There's no question Natalie said their goal and all I want to lot of left -- leaders and the congressmen in the White House. They wanna take away our right to bear arms and anyone who doesn't think that is -- all because that's what they're trying to do so little by little it's. Russ thanks for calling. Which brings up to another aspect of this there already people who've been. Who have been you know between twittering and and and babbling about how the -- shows a need for gun control. We have more gun control legislation stronger legislation in this country now than in any time in the past. You don't really think that because you pass laws restricting gun control that the criminals won't have guns. If you think you're gonna be successful. I would ask you to take a look -- your war on drugs. How well have you done there we -- all sorts of laws provide trucks. Shouldn't have cocaine should know marijuana this that it. How have we done in stopping it could be your shirt if you win the more you put a gun control in. The more you were strict law abiding citizen and two more have begun. And the important criminal he's emboldened because he figures he's the only one -- the gun. You know this this not this James Holmes. -- I was sure there were an appropriate word language. To describe the monstrosity that he isn't clearly. You know extra human sub human -- use animal because that demeans animals. -- you know someone like this is not going to be deterred by by ordinary things. OK -- 7746943. To choose the phone number. The text message code 68680. I kind. Of text message from the caller who couldn't remember the second thing devotion you're listening earlier. Generation nine show me as I remember the second thing that. The real center Brian Ross is not the fact that you mistaking them mistakenly. Reported Tea Party connection but that he wanted it to be true. And I think that's an interesting point because otherwise why we've been so eager. To rush to the microphone. Before you even checked it. So there must have been in the eagerness. That this yes you see it's a Tea Party people again. 8774694322. This is on the Nelson and Walter. You are next on the program good afternoon. Afternoon architecture take my call to you. Here's here's my point. Federal law overrule state law correct yes. -- -- -- It's time in this strain gauges cameras everywhere and DNA except for. So crimes such as this one that happened in Colorado. And you were talking earlier I believe will vote before. Ford were massacre back -- the person that perpetrated. The crime until the all these people and main people and everything else. It's it's obvious that they're guilty now I understand our nation of laws in this guy -- sure is gonna -- guilty also. Well we all know -- So why can't why can't we have a federal just faculty for this kind of -- crime and that swift punishment and it sends out a message and they're upset why can't we have something like out of the people with Sherri and for the people who would say. Although you can't step in human and everything else. I would ship those people down. And have them look at forensics photographs so what this person did in Florida so many witnesses. And if they still insisted the that the person shouldn't be tortured -- if I was in charge SA gets security and get that person out of -- Well let me tell you Walters the problem is -- throughout our -- -- I think -- limit that the first part of what. You said was -- -- DNA meaning -- less likelihood of the of the innocent person being convicted with all the additional. Advances in forensic techniques and I agree with that. Where which you have here's a problem Walter with people who think that no matter what somebody has done no matter how horrible crime. That's somehow. The state should not execute -- and in those -- using terminology like the state should murders so much that's wrong that's inappropriate vocabulary. Murder but murderers are taking a many innocent human life not. Not HQ shoot for -- -- but they these are people Walter who wouldn't execute Hitler if they got a hold of him. Well yeah I understand exactly what you're saying I truly do. They'd just say don't edit this -- I don't panic but but but this but that's but in the recount stroke. You're not killing the person if a kid fool. Walton and kills a child her purse and older and that's always lose stories other. What are they go to fitful. A little while they know it's crazy. -- put it together you know god is obviously crazed. And -- absorbing the city give the crime it just doesn't make any sense and I hope I really hope. That they kid who are casting on him. And and really screamed at because I have a theory about this guy we're Jewish. I very much do that he recited Bible and understand. Study and a -- psychiatry. No would get giving them access to all these different cycle club drug this thing -- big. -- all the -- not all homes welding Guerrero or you're -- -- against your impassioned about this I have no idea whether he was under the influence they think. I attended doubted. All right thank you for the call again the data because of all set -- that took place including. He -- the booby trapping apartment etc. -- -- I I come down decided being in favor of capital punishment is nonsense that -- all knew we couldn't partially excused. And by the way when a bear -- some guy abortion pill helps a person. The fact of the bear couldn't tell right from wrong is not a defense. They kill a bear I'm a big animal fan I would dog -- cat I take care of snow -- But when you have an animal it's out of control and kill you you do respond with violent lethal force same thing. With the murderers. And the booms in. Human society. True there -- people killed more than twelve. Well all these guys in the underworld. But what's going on Syria but going on in Iraq hurry he would get you get people who perpetrated horrible problems. How are you British come from different angles those who have shown no we couldn't possibly. And by the way those who argue which not a deterrent a bit ridiculous of course is a deterrent. Next time we have and are you with a -- pose this question supposing for murder 11 degree murder. Planned in advance already opposing the penalty was a weakened version one week do you think there would be more or fewer murders. Course it's a punishment as a deterrent. 8774694322. Is a phone number. From 617. Tim McVeigh killed 168 people without using a gun yes. -- -- used bombs which are already outlawed. Back to the telephone line looks aren't there you are next on the program good afternoon. The social sector macro the bush normally think from Malaysia Somalia religion that does divert some of of people stretchers. And anyway. -- royal warrant serious cycle will be your name be and I came up but -- convicted of murdering your public by putting Dave on all the time. There are there enough I didn't -- -- gun to the Internet but the. Well little oil well are fit enough to put so fill that really -- Did you -- convicted by a jury of your appeared to be easily. That's fair enough but I'm standing in remorse that -- but thanks to. Well let go one -- or okay yeah well -- just such as well or sick going back to look forward shooting. They're trying to Eric Holder was an attorney general put W rather stay that he'd be defending that very. And stuff. I don't know like here I I don't quite understand your point on there and then dungy or maybe you're right I'm sure I'm sure are the only would defend him if he were black. Well he'd do well listen -- -- try to pretty good idea -- got apartment for a terrorist. Security under the door to the Clinton administration that was that brought up. Is prepping for attorney general and this is why I -- the Republican party of a bit yesterday. Because you know what they won't they let Ted -- smear blood judge -- and they knew exactly what kind of attorney general Eric called it was going to be and I'm sure you know what time it was and I know I ended and you know what that's exactly what how it turned out. No I think your point is well taken out -- thanks for calling. 8774694322. Is a phone number I'm on Nelson. -- you are dealing the American. Welcome back this is god knows why I should mention because. I want you inside baseball stuff -- the reference to Dave in the previous call. These days from Brookline who calls this program with some regularity. And -- developed somewhat of -- following up on this program -- nationally in the positive sense and I want you know where he's gotten some text messages. What about dating though Dave hasn't called so that was the the referenced some to the in the last caller to. You do wish they should develops and started members on. 87746943. To choose a phone number John you're next on the program good afternoon. I mean our X. The idea -- -- as far as I'm concerned that it so called journalist did not. Do this by mistake this -- is considerable time honored trick. As that previous caller pointed out you throw the stuff but the wall and it stated you know you washing off right away it's no leaders. President of social media and all that the district that they're like wild fire. Well you know. I really don't know John knew what was in Brian Ross's mind that you -- correct. In the sense that. ABC has been so consistently left wing through the years. That they don't they don't get the benefit of the doubt here you know suspect the motivation. Was. -- -- -- He has cheery throughout the Tea Party page but -- admitted that he didn't know whether it was a the right person and then later there's a -- apology but you're right the damage is done. It the damages done and out -- another Tea Party member. I'm I'm actually Iran Paul supporter but I you have don't be -- always -- these parties. That they're good track record for instance so there's of the gatherings and so are totally nonviolent. Totally civilized. Behavior. And new attitude to try to hit as they keep trying to do every time something like this happens. There's -- there's an overlooked and under the current true that's very dangerous and that's of course that the incessant push for a civil disarmament. Then they love it you know these people like Brian Ross Sunday. And the last Asia and the state Christian general love it when an incident like this takes place. We don't have any feelings for the victims really they then they're looking at their agenda. Push these gun control also the state which is really people control. Okay John thank you for the call and I must add. That since and we don't wanna do what Brian Ross did. Brian Austin chanting about gun control certainly not in -- in the clip that I Iran with regard to the dedication James Holmes. So what is agenda in that regard is I don't know you know what these guys personal. Feeling sharp politically philosophically I don't know frankly I want to know. What he did with regard to the Tea Party that we know because that's on the record the fresh ground. Rules say. We don't have time went on time for another call do we know -- Paul my apologies to people are hanging on we will get back -- on the other side of the news. And I do wanna mention also that. Patrol talked can all focus on what's going on in Colorado and in her -- -- You wonder why they show much attention I do want to talk about some of the things you'll get them in the next hour should political stuff some stuff for the Obama. -- comment about did you. You have a vision she didn't build it. But I think the reason this is grabbed the nation's show is because we're we're trying to understand it. And come to grips with what happens he's go to want to watch a movie. Now all of a sudden there's this on restrained violence. Can -- impossible to comprehend. Maybe talking helps. Back on the other side than someone else.