Keeping up with Cape Wind

Good morning. Top five -- show brought to unified network capital funding corporation your future financed. I am sick of this Cape Wind saying the project is a scam I figured it all out I know what they're up to they are simply. Trying to do something that's wrong. They wanna do something is wrong because it works for them I'm talking about Deval Patrick I'm talking about the old the the environmental laughed and talking about the president there's this machinery in place. That is pushing Cape Wind on us even though they know it's stupid and destructive and will cost us a fortune that's my position. I'm not putting words in anyone's mouth like our guest coming on right now -- Rio joins us. From associated industries of Massachusetts it is a group and association. Of manufacturers. And to retailers and all different kinds of employers in the state. That represents the needs of employers. And one of the things they're concerned about is higher -- crates Massachusetts already has very. Costly electricity. And guess what the brilliant idea of Cape Wind. Is figuring out the most ludicrous way to generate electricity that will be as expensive as possible. Calling it green jobs so that everybody can fawn all over it like it is they newborn messiah. They are not it's and they are destructive joining us to talk about it is Bob real good morning -- Good morning god thank you very much for apparently did I say it is strongly you wanna say. You probably get a little stronger but I think the basic point to correct you know this is at 200 million dollar. Tax on the Massachusetts economy that about the yearly cost. A skateboarding and that will be added to people's electric bills going forward about 200 million dollars per year. How can -- so little. Yet don't you thought that in them the dollar amount will will. Like the Big Dig went from a regional two and a half -- now at 24 billion. And at the this boondoggle is estimated 2.5 billion right. Right right number sounds familiar. Yeah I take it you know that good right now the cost projections are about 200 -- -- 200 million dollars a year on people's electric bills. Primarily in the eastern part of the state because there's only two utilities. That it purchased -- and so it really does fall on. Portions of the Massachusetts economy you know it's all of our members some of our larger members are going to be spending several 100000 dollars a year. Just on people in collapsing you know your talent -- the -- Boston. Or some of the larger towns could easily see this school to about a 10200000. Dollars a year is just -- -- -- isn't a massive numbers. But you're dead don't they -- responsibility. And talking about our re elected officials. To go find us. The cheapest electricity they can instead of the most expensive electricity that can. You absolutely. And hit the nail on the head side. This is not in opposition to renewable -- a lot of your listeners supporting the will call on short as aliens as cheaply to. Three times more expensive. There -- other renewable power that is being built right now including aren't sure wind. We have many many many wins columns. Going on in going on that in some Powell into the market for about -- sort of -- people -- do so this is not a boat as you correctly. Pointed out this is not about. You -- -- opposing renewable power this is about opposing this particular project which is eight a bad example this one's a loser. It's in our opinion it has been it was originally AM has been fighting this. With Korea or he is there's been some wins some loss of just below the key data because you know on important I think about it the 200 million dollars a year. He deficit on the MBTA it was a 160 million dollars a year. And we're talking 200 million dollars is Chester but this one project. Just before. To -- for us to be able to buy electricity more expensively out from the middle of the ocean. While destroying one of the great natural resources. Of the state. It's times like gay. The kind of thing that's certain politicians just can't resist. And I think because people see Windmills on the Mass Pike and when those on the something's express what you think it goes with the type of windows that would talking about it. The Windmills and -- -- put into Nantucket Sound and could be from from the bottom to the top of the blade and going to be almost 4050. Fee hikes. You know little short in the Hancock Tower. Let me tell -- play devil's advocate though Bob robbery -- -- from associated industries of Massachusetts. What do I care -- five miles off the coast of Cape Cod. There's a tower. Well there's lots of them over 26 square mile area I think it is. That's 440 feet tall and spinning around making electricity who cares. Well when you when you get two billion should care. Because you know it's not just a direct impact and yacht bill. -- it's going to be you know your employer now they became more electricity -- municipality is going to be playing more electricity ecology universities estate is going to be paying more for -- So why should care that some companies won't move here because they see a bunch adults trying to figure out how to make electricity more expensive. Talk almost that the number one usual after healthcare. That prevent people from. Relocating to match juices are explaining to mass uses its high cotton candy as you pointed out earlier. We are near the top number 12. Sometimes it's -- lucky would get to separate but recently been one into this will propel us. This'll make that delta between us. In our competitors North Carolina. And all those states this'll make it even 100. Okay so -- aren't so those people are you arguing anything other than the cost or is that all your. The -- point. -- right now it's -- it's an alien typically doesn't get into the actual permeating. While we have we have mostly on the cost. And in who's paying for that's been our primary concern because of the massive two businesses pay about 60%. Of the comparable interest business and and -- -- So this was sold and they you know they sent all it only costs a few dollars a month per rate may be -- is -- some are small single digit number. For the average rate -- that's a homeowner what will happen to businesses -- if Cape Wind happens. Yeah we have we have one member that this would be important to the 300000 dollar range is just one project. Okay we have a we have a couple of could be in the five to 600000 dollar range and this is this is really noticeable increase in the bill. And you know all the talk about green jobs -- you correctly pointed out you know a lot of them are just people's -- and dignity and imagination. There's no way that you can take out 50600000. Dollars. From the company and not expect that to have some impact on on era I employee but. -- green jobs is not even the issue right because as I understand it. There are other projects already in place we could go to Maine we could go to Canada we could buy green energy produced electricity. That -- us. -- -- -- -- actually writing and you know I aren't many newspapers do Davis some of the green jobs that were promised on on this particular project might even be going to China. So I think we gotta be mindful that this 200 million dollars this vast majority is now political oversees the page of the people who build these projects. The -- so yeah we history might do the final assembly on a lot of this stuff. But the massive amounts of money in the Chinese in this will all be done from a foreign sources. And will not help our balance of payment and you know Massachusetts. Is way out of ministers no other state right now that is committed. To the highest price we knew -- Apollo project ever sold. And anywhere that I know of in Massachusetts is now the one who has committed our resident paying the highest price. Again this blog entry you will Pollack it is against ridiculously pricey no politics for absolutely no reason. All right Barbary go from associated industries of Massachusetts thank you sir thank you Merrill talked again soon -- yeah. Associated. Industries of Massachusetts that's a coalition of companies that don't like the idea of us being scammed for electricity. That is way too expensive. Now out to be to be fair as if I can be. To the people who are perpetrating this fraud on the on the ratepayers in Massachusetts. Cape Wind the original theory all this stuff was that eventually. Fossil fuel energies are gonna be so expensive. That it doesn't matter how stupid the project is we support and how crazy expensive it is. Because eventually. It'll be cheaper because what the -- after all it's just went after you built the thing you pay your monthly note. And it's spends automatically. Right that was their thinking and maybe that made sense what we now know. Is the costs of fossil fuels is dropping the supply isn't being cut off it isn't being limited its expanding. The United States of America has more natural gas it's just you know. We're giddy with how much it is and how for if quickly they cost is dropping oil supply expanding in the United States. The whole premise. That it doesn't matter how dumb the project is to pay off our political friends and that's why they do this stuff. They want to shift the money over from one political parties friends to another political parties friends. The idea that they could do that with no skin off anyone's back is no longer true so we can look at Deval Patrick in the other perpetrators of -- win. And green energy fraud the president. And say you guys are scamming us and we are being robbed in this project makes no sense on any level because we are gonna be paying. Triple for electricity from free wind power we -- going to be paying triple so that we could all bowed down to the beautiful god. -- wind power and alternative energy sources when in fact. We are getting screwed. When we do -- little bow down we'd best be protecting ourselves you know what I'm referring to because it's all scamper in what is the motivation for the scandal. The motivation is if you're Deval Patrick you wanna be a national figure may be run for president you need to build these coalitions. Of -- each party has their own coalition so when you're building a coalition in Euro liberal Democrat. You need to green he's thinking you are some kind of pioneer of great times. And the great thing in this case. Is the -- redeemable unaffordable. Scam on the ratepayers a Massachusetts Cape Wind makes no sense on any level quick. Quick call me up tell me it's one level Cape Wind makes cents. The 440 for tower so will interfere with planes flying in the Logan because it will screw up their radar. The birds that will be decimated by the fluttering. Spinning of those mills out there are those rotors. Who is Ghana. Who is gonna -- make this make sense for us. Five miles off the coast do you think it's going to be. Easy to maintain. You think it's gonna be affordable long run you'd think after her. The thing goes on line if it ever does god help us if it does that it's gonna still be running in ten or twenty years no it's going to be a big. Stupid dinosaur. And will look back and say well. -- -- worse than the Big Dig down one and the reason it had to happen. Is because Deval Patrick wanted to be. A god. To those who think green powers the answered everything and guess what it's not they may work out some day. That they're good enough batteries that you can actually think about buying an -- cardinal take your further than 35 miles before you have to put in the garage for the night. In charge of backed up it may be that day will come. It ain't here yet it may be the day will come. -- solar panels are act actually able to provide electricity. You wanna know why solar makes sense for people to put on their houses right now because they get to charge of the electric company. Double for the electricity. Everywhere you turn in this whole thing it's a scam. 6172666. Seats succeeds Steve earn -- a good morning. Based -- -- I -- to and I think you're on disputes in twenty years that's going to be an environment. All at. Hazard yeah so a lot stuff out there in the ocean and it's going to be a horrible mess and then again. -- these cleanup companies are bought two billion dollars to take all this garbage out of the ocean. Because it's going to be after catcher and it'll be displaced. And the bad you know all the government might pick it up quite well and ultimately. Dumped on. As I mean look at what do you make Yorkshire water's gonna do it -- and I garbage out. I'm just not as optimistic -- its gonna take twenty years I think we're gonna be fighting over who has to pay for. Clean out and the dismantling way before that talking Cape Wind. Walter your NW market good morning TO. If the morning. I spoke with -- I don't regard -- -- -- -- -- short -- they -- -- floating better than the one name wind power that it is in. Airports Boston area there is I think you're sitting there with soaring property is one -- -- -- -- does and they haven't turned in months on the -- Boston loses it. You know what I'd I would imagine that Everett it's quite apart from the the big power plant them. -- that could put it they couldn't get the footing is right in ever. It's ridiculous and still in the ocean. Yeah that's what I say I mean and imagine the environmental impact on one of these things blow over our. Caves in whatever the whole thing is ridiculous picture that big air out. It is. It is a scanned there are scandals Walter thank you for call 6172666860. If you are a believer in Cape Wind and can justify. Why we should pay three or four times as much for electricity. From those towers in the middle of the ocean please call now we will continue with his conversations -- -- showed WRKO.