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There's good news. The Massachusetts House of Representatives this afternoon has all were written the beat -- of the EBT reforms that. That Governor Deval Patrick again it sanctimonious -- issued over the weekend so that's the senate still must override the vetoes. But there will talk with Sean O -- reports -- of -- -- O'Connell but the Slater and -- later in the show but the -- has been over written in the house. Joining us now is congressman frank get -- from New Hampshire and he. Break I guess -- I guess we should ask you about the the repeal the so called repeal of obamacare today is that was what was the point eight by having having this vote. Well if you didn't catch the first 32 times we voted to repeal this and there is part of Orange Bowl we -- we do more times. -- really -- the point was after the Supreme Court decision which. You know I respect -- different branch government I disagree with the with the opinion. We wanted to reiterate our house position. On this piece of legislation that we -- that we also hope that the senate takes up Harry Reid of course has said he refuses to take it up but. I think people in Massachusetts New Hampshire New England would like to know you know how their senators. Feel about this piece of legislation so the very least I hope they do take it up for -- I agree but then of course I guess one reason that you know just for tactical purposes to take it up today it was so that the some of the Democrats are running for reelection in is in -- four tough circumstances. Would have to go on the record as either for against that spread. There were five Democrats in the house that voted for repeal. Civil war to the numbers that have voted to repeal what we first introduced this -- year. In January. So you know technically I guess you can say there's bipartisan support for the repeal the bill. The reality though how is I think this is bad public policy. It's an overreach of government if the federal government dictating. And demanding in requiring people to buy -- good or service I don't think that's constitutional I don't think that's American. And what most of all realize how we used in point fourteen. If you don't buy insurance you will be penalized attacks we will work you wanna use 1% of your salary that goes to two point 6%. In the third year so that's what our federal government is busy doing making sure that they're gonna take more money from your pockets. Through penalty guess who does that the 161000 IRS agents. That this bill requires. To be hired. In order they are hernia operations to frank if if I if I need a hernia operation or kidney transplant in these higher SA agents perform those duties. But at -- -- I -- simply get the proper training. You know that's of the bill will be collecting -- the payment and providing the service. If it's just it's it's astounding to me that that the these people give up their and they actually I mean -- did the -- democratic colleagues really. Think that health care for their constituents by the way are you guys cut you're not covered under this right -- congress congress if it's so good frank -- Why aren't members of congress well because the executive branch and the supreme court for that matter government. Icing because the people who push this through you know the last congress two very differently about how they should be treated vs the rest. I don't think you guys have made enough of that you know that that the fact that you you know Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi don't have to worry about this when weird you know -- it's just it's obscene it's. It's hypocritical. Yeah it did talk quite a bit when I was campaigning for this job. -- it to be as -- interpret people's civil why does -- supplied and members of congress and so at the time with the height of the conversation. That was the subject matter but I suspect that will be part of the dialogue. Going into the November election. For the presidency for the senate races for the house races. And again I think people. Who -- running through route to to to get their seats back to that that lost in point tan. Are doubling down like -- shaped -- that was pushing she's saying that. This is good public policies she supports that she's reiterating our support for and the reality that we -- New Hampshire does not support this legislation. -- -- it also might CDO lap at two years you escorted him about a trillion dollars guess who -- just under try. -- -- -- one point eight trillion in terms of cost. So I can't imagine we're gonna be two years from now when they scored again. But it it keeps going up in -- I ask people where he think this money come from. Got to -- -- in order to pay for you know this massive takeover of or healthcare industry. It's insanity it's like California all these two communities going bankrupt in the talking about a high speed rail system it's sixty billion -- This is that the high speed rail system -- large or fifty states. We've got to get back to reality and the you know I I did -- sharp shocks me. When I tell people -- one point two trillion dollar deficit we have fifteen trillion dollar debt and people say well just keep adding to it. No you know we've got to tighten our belts. Washington and it has to get smaller government has to get smaller we've got to live within our means and guess what we've got to make tough decisions. About spending priorities but we cannot spend at the rate that we're spending anymore just. Can't afford. 18774694322. If you wanna talk to offering get to the congressman from New Hampshire what's -- from that taxes from the Obama packs obamacare taxes starting with the up three point 8% on the on the sale of homes. -- next year's. -- one taxes in this bill twelve of which directly affect the middle class. And I want people to it is. To understand this because the president United States says. That he would not tax the middle class well he violated that pledge in this bill twelve different times. So I was part nujoma today down in Washington so look. -- it but I bought the investment properties thirty years ago we wanna sell that we have to pay additional tax for what's. And I to well you know the advocates of this bill had to figure a way to pay for it sounds so you know you view you make investments thirty years ago. You wanna see it grow I think every American wants to see their investments grow that you would penalize them to this. Legislation. What a meeting -- it's like there's going to be when people are realizing this is going to be a fire sale on real estate is people gonna want that the going to be willing to take pore through 3% last. Just to avoid this three point 8% tax -- I mean that's okay that's want to open -- Probable Crowley is on the president's proposal he wants to capital gain rated to go up from fifteen in he wants to let that expert he doesn't like 40%. Somewhere between twenty four and that that is that is ridiculous. And then of course been the dividends at the time we talked about this earlier today to the tax on dividends is is also going up from -- in some cases fifteen to 43%. From fifteen to 43%. So how what so. If if I still owns stock frank I'm I'm you know on the doom and Wilbur when it comes to best. But if I still -- stock would what I want to own that stock. If I'm counting on dividends to pay for my retirement in my kids' college education amid all of a sudden I'm gonna take a 28%. Pay cut if -- count on dividends. And that's part of the problem with I think the entire. Policy approach of the president and Democrats and -- taking. They are looking to add more dollars to the federal government not by the way are we to reduce debt deficit. But to expand the size and scope of government you know if you don't see that in this spilled just by the 161000 -- decisions that have to be higher. In order to find people who were it is in and go find them for not buying health insurance because the federal government is this is demanding it. If you see that is a clear example of the expansive. Approach that they have in government -- you know I don't know how clearer. You know you can get an example. And then then you have the that just another example looked it's a big issue here in Massachusetts and I think in New Hampshire as well is the a medical device -- -- -- point 3% and did the New Hampshire southern New Hampshire and and that the Essex County Merrimack valley of of Massachusetts. Are like this. Among the world leader Louis medical devices. We'll think about this so you have a medical device companies get venture capital. Eat you he got a bit. And you grow jobs. You grow the company and so for profit. And by the way you are providing medical devices to you know those who need them. So for the privilege of having their business. This bill would actually 2.3 percent we have seen already a decline in the number. But medical device companies in southern New Hampshire. But over the last year by about 8%. So the you know -- the reality here is people are demanding more technology demanding you know better health care. Innovation yet -- of attacks the very industry. That provides that that demand that we have as consumers because the present would like to. You know impose more tax on people so I you know it's very very frustrating I think that there are many many different ways that we can go. And reduce cost for health insurers provide people in a great options with. With you know person across state lines give you portability. Oh or transparency. Indian health care you don't have to have it all for all the won six of the economy. We got full lines here would give me one or two more taxes that are that are coming the -- we may not be as familiar. Well -- there they look at it is if there's there's certain things like gears now it would impose limitations on the future of do some tests as they Cheney's speech -- happens. -- series saving so yeah and the so basically the money that you put away that's not taxable. Would no longer. You know longer view we'll take on the percent of that. Non taxable income torture each essay or -- FSA. So what what what is I I can't understand this -- there's no real rationale. So there isn't a bit because they have to try to find revenue in order to pay for the bill. That is their -- that is their rationale. Hot it's just it's just. Can't believe I can. Have an additional you know attacks on health insurance providers you've got an additional tax on. But truck manufacturers who you think pays for those -- mean it's it will come down to the consumer. In higher costs for premiums and higher costs for drugs. Like I was gonna save money. Well to post sales that is supposed to say is what he said over and over again that all the things have been saying -- the most interest -- statistic is that is establishing events centers for Medicare and Medicaid -- is not. A Republican or Democrat you know entity apolitical. The base that. Health insurance premiums will go up between 1414%. 14% after we paid one point eight trillion dollars for the spill. So he you know there's not mean this saying it is not the Republican Party saying it it's in this it's kind. Button. And only five Democrats would or tomorrow or they will go off the reservation right about that woman from. In the battle that's running for the senate Mercury. Gilbert I don't I was actually looking to see how she voted -- haven't found yet. Yeah she's got some other problems that I wouldn't think that she would -- compound them by voting for this monstrosity. -- -- Steve your next with Howie Carr congressman frank and the -- New Hampshire go ahead today. -- which you can't tell -- your attacks on meet the paint a congressional health care benefits enough -- What -- so low that it's obviously a a benefit provided by an employer. All of the Jordan Carly got a -- they -- attacks partly because I'm AB are out there. What's Steve the thing is he he's got he's not crying he's trying to stop this this penalty attacks were being imposed on you think here -- thank your -- at the wrong guy here. And 99 DB I don't know you're in the all I've been canceled one. -- Will pay today for congress has 174000. You know I did it for eighteen months. We we have in terms of spending. But just in my own budget that cut the budget 11% a cut it not once but twice. I've actually refused to pay raise. So you know there are things -- return money to the treasury so -- team. Is Steve Berry you know he he's not he's not a problem the problem is the people who -- -- -- speech ramming this down our throats but you don't want to habit. Don't wanna have their way. Suffer under it themselves I mean this -- he understood he amnesty and the problems Steve thanks for the call 1877469432. To jog your next what powered car go ahead John. I missed again just keep up the good work. Thank you very much I'm from the other side of the state I'm from teens so what can -- into your run for the senate got you. But. I'd encourage you to keep up the good work and I think that their medical device tax that they gonna impose. Didn't -- -- just an example haven't quadriplegic previous this year. A thank political or they shot a 18774694322. Bob your next with Howie Carr and it's congressman frank and the from New Hampshire gore had. Bob. Hey Al. That Weimar Germany here we okay. These people congress it looked at this little tidbit what's gonna happen at what's coming. But our debt service right now on the national debt approaching 500 billion dollars okay. Take these low interest rates that by the way -- officially held. And let the rise naturally. That scenario where. We can never see interest rates higher again. Because the service will explode to the point -- consume the entire budget deficit -- the entire budget but. Correct that. What do you feel not that I don't I want you got me it's it's gut level right. Yet to to me it's very simple if went when you -- GDP. Equals you -- debt you're in trouble. And that's where the United States of America is right now. Now Spain it is -- we think of Spain right now how much trouble they're they're GDP to debt is only 7%. United States has 100%. You know I I come from a place where I was mayor of Manchester where we have to balance their budgets. We actually cut taxes we actually reduced how much we borrowed. All because those are good principles and I tell people this if you would look at the balance sheet and its sense of America. And you had a thousand dollars to invest which you invest in that entity in the answer would be no so you know -- -- As well as printing press in the in the base or that it's just -- people in Washington feel like they've got a pretty impressive -- you know spend your money. Reader devalue the dollar as a result of it. In this got to stop them and that's what we're fighting against here. Thanks for the call Bob -- your next with Howie Carr and by congressman frank get the Manchester, New Hampshire go ahead rich. Oh yeah it's my question what some first -- some better questions off all government. Our officials and appointees. And all the and the prostitution. Correct yes. Okay there are there -- are in the constitution has congress shall make no law doesn't apply it people. As to the people. Wouldn't -- correct. Okay then it can be. Supreme Court and law constitutional. When congress exempts itself. Isn't that you -- and the court. Well -- -- -- I don't support. That the I don't agree with the supreme court's decision. I think they've got it right in one aspect when they said this was unconstitutional. -- -- to the commerce clause written the other long was stating that it is seat tracks the therefore it is constitutional. Under the taxing authority in the constitution while the Kosovor -- dissent and that the congress. Does have the ability taxed. Are icing this very very differently I think they should have been thrown out in totality. It was not and that's why we took the vote again to repeal this legislation in its party something that I -- today something else a cosponsor the year Africa. Thanks for the call rich 0187 will take one more call for your frank Mike you're next with Howie Carr and congressman frank got the go ahead Mike. -- ex congressman you can look at congress actually the only. We have the best -- -- that in the well. You know and -- me one -- stop all -- -- England where you open -- the -- why answer medal here. Canada wait -- the -- veterinarian and get are looking medical procedure. If you if you if you need what are. They get. It you know like you mentioned that because we do have the best political here in the world. Do we do we you know what we'd like to make it cheaper of course would we'd like to have more people have access of course the question here is. What is the role of the federal government. And I don't believe that the role of federal government should be to get in between -- for your position to force you to purchase of good reservist. And to expand the size and scope of the federal government. So that's why we've got to repeal it and we've got to start. There's a wholesale and if any broke don't fix it. You know I mean it was if I mean port that you could tinker around with it but it wasn't broken it is a broken that's the thing we better do this very quickly you know. Okay thank you what congressman get that they appreciate -- that I get very much -- okay well we'll talk to you 18774694322. And his opponent Carol Shea-Porter among batsman bats topics this is a great idea. -- great idea. -- -- --

