Not So Fast Obamacare...

Joseph Biden and his wife have an income of 379000. Dollars a year is -- middle class no he's not. 88% saying excuse me middle class job. Well middle class Joseph says he's middle class middle middle class people you want me you know. People whose. Father worked in a coal mine. Is this where he said that was what the Canucks speech was all about how he is it -- connect the British labour leader. He said he worked -- coal -- so just sort Joseph Biden decided you liked the sound of that you know Scranton I think is imprecise coal country was. How much -- minded and in Scranton now but so he liked the sound of it so he stole the whole speech and made it his life. And then -- somebody pointed out the -- -- to caucus people while leaked it to the press and then try to blame on Dick Gephardt. They were they were classy group of people but it was -- -- caucus people. Here's another -- we talked about Scranton they've cut -- they cut the wages of that are. Municipal workforce to minimum wage 725 an hour because they have no money. San Bernardino California. Last night east of east of LA to over 200000 people. Followed in the footsteps of stock -- California and even larger city. In the in the central valley I believe. And declared bankruptcy. Now while Folsom California. Johnny Cash knows that Johnny Cash and falls from Folsom prison blues. Starting Monday the city here's some more -- Folsom blows. Starting Monday the city of -- -- fire department were charged 125. Dollars for anyone needing a paramedic. Even illegal aliens. We got to find money from somewhere -- gonna come from people like you and me one resident said Folsom fire department is just the latest to charge a fee for its medical. Aid. The real issue is how we provide the essential services to communities seeking for months. Folsom fire chief Ron Phillips said first thing would be I would say to get rid of the illegal alien to make them pay. Starting Monday on top of the taxes that people pay each year for service the new fees charged of people called 911 for medical help. Or go into effect to cover the cost of gas supplies and paramedic personnel -- estimates. 225. Dollars per call whether a patient goes to the hospital or not. Sacramento metro fire already charges 275. Dollars. For -- escalade. So this is the future this is the future. -- states on the future it's the president I should say. 1877469432218774694322. One of the throwing Medicare and and action me obamacare and took the into the mix here in this hour. And is very interesting story in the weekly standard today by NJJ cost I guess actually ran a couple of days ago but he's he's talking about that don't bet on obamacare. And as you know the house today the House of Representatives and that in a simple totally symbolic vote in this kind of a waste of time. Has voted to repeal obamacare and they the Hillary read well not let it go anywhere in the senate. It's it's pretty obvious now the American if the congress senate to do over again obamacare would never ever passed inaccurate because it isn't it's just a total disaster. But here's what Jake processed don't bet on obamacare. In fact I believe that obamacare and its current form is doomed regardless of who wins on November 6. There's two reasons for this conclusion. First the bill is built on true many questionable assumptions if one of -- any one of them fails to hold the entire thing. Could fall apart. They mentioned some of the things will employers drop their insurance coverage on -- knowing that their employees can get insurance on the exchanges. Democrats -- assume not but there are signs that may not be the case. Can Medicare be cut by 500 billion dollars without assume under mining quality of care Democrats assume so put the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services are doubtful. You know the Democrats also assumed that. When they set the food stamp program with 2% of the American people would would be eligible would take advantage of food stamps were now up to 14%. And climbing rapidly. The the Democrats also said that SSI would be utilized only by orphans and the disabled. How's that work. More questions can medicate him to about fifteen million new recipients Democrats assume so but doctors are already awoke to accept Medicaid because peso poorly. -- will increase the number of people demanding medical services without a corresponding increase in the supply of services without a huge spike in prices. We're gonna have more services -- that's why we're hiring. 161000. New Internal Revenue Service agents. Democrats assume so but common sense counts cast doubts on this proposition. Indeed the up apparatus may already be collapsing collapsing thanks to the Supreme Court. Last week the Supreme Court gave states the right to opt out of the new Medicaid program. Many of those would have been eligible for Medicaid will now under the insurance exchanges and be eligible for generous subsidies federal subsidies. This is a problem for the bill's advocates who promised they would reduce the deficit. The insurance subsidies are more generous than Medicaid meeting the price tag is going up. Second this bill is nothing like social security and Medicare. There's a big reason why social security and Medicare have a -- with stood the test of time. Even as other social programs like welfare bid substantially reformed because social security and Medicare did not discriminate. Between citizens there's been no political coalition powerful enough to Alter them. Everybody expects to benefit from social security and Medicare -- has been impossible to implement even common sense reforms. Obamacare has no such insulation from reformers because it discriminates. Between classes of citizens. This is this is where this will really misses where the the yeah. Rubber is hitting the road obamacare has no insulation from reformers because it discriminates between classes of citizens. Indeed Democrats played all kinds of favorites. People make less money get a better deal on insurance that people make more. Think illegal aliens. People who acquire insurance from the exchanges get a better deal than people who get it through their employer. Medicare recipients in Florida get a better deal than Medicare recipients elsewhere people who receive an insurance subsidy get a better deal than people. Jumped into the broken Medicaid system. People without insurance get a better deal than people who haven't but are paying more than they can afford. Worse. Many of the winners in the obamacare systems are -- actually well -- interest groups like the drug manufacturers. Social security and Medicare grips with stood the test of time the essentially on reform because nobody lost -- those teams are better -- Nobody felt as though they lost. With obamacare. The number of people may Warsaw office substantial. With -- obamacare there is definitely going to be a political coalition waiting to be built one large enough to topple bought in -- -- an office. This will remain the case even if Obama wins in November. That political coalition is not going to go away if the bill is implemented instead it will only -- more potent. As various classes of citizens begin to perceive how they have lost out. In this sense of loss will be greater if any of the many assumptions of the bill failed to -- So that's why that's -- I'm saying Caminiti you know we're we're we're talking about loss of freedom and a esoteric questions like baton. You know why to whether whether or not the federal government has a right to impose this tsunami and -- this -- where every one -- Mean once this thing goes into effect that services are going to deteriorate in the gonna deteriorate quickly. And that's -- that's when that's that's when the excrement will really hit the fan. Let's let's just hope that the Romney is elected in November and as a Republican house senate Republican senate. And I we can we can do away with this monstrosity. 18774694322187746943. -- true let's see here. Democrats are gonna stop and just because it's unaffordable I guess that's a question mark. Bullets I mean what are what are they gonna do me what are what are we gonna do in Scranton. What's gonna happen in Scranton the what happened in Rhode Island. Weigh in in -- Island beauty you have they had a democratic legislature and democratic treasurer. Image so we can't afford these pensions and we were run every everything -- the whole state is gonna be like central faults and what happened the they finally woke up. And did and and stay sober they didn't wake up they sobered. And a and they cut the rate of increase in the pensions. Beat some -- something's gonna have to give in -- cities and it's not just it's it's not just in California or in Rhode Island. It's this is gonna happen. Everywhere. 1877469432218774694322. To a seven in the poll by mortgage. The more text line. H how was Biden middle class when the law professor Obama wants to raise the taxes of the country's wealthiest who make over 250000. Yeah that's it's it's rather confusing isn't it I mean who -- or is he richer is he middle class. Apparently his boss thinks he's rich but he thinks she's middle class. Even though he makes more money than most of the people. Poorer the award described by his boss his ranch. And he also has this extra income coming in like the 2200 dollars she charges BS Secret Service to -- a cottage on his. On his property worry goes on the weekends with Secret Service protection I might yet. Rob your next with how. We cargo and Ali -- good. You know the problem started back in the seventh in the our problems seventies. I haven't companies get away with -- and went to 40 one's. And and the prominent big city and compensate. In all this money contentions and it is and it pays the benefits for all the retirees. And it you know. So when you look at once they were on the street. That's not one person. It can't it's free because it's him extradited some attention and it's again it's on disability. History salary and that -- one -- you know and it. You know we get that's openness at the bottom of Alabama in out of it but you know and now they talk about forgiving policy -- -- that's. Exactly the you know. Well that's that's that's a and Occupy Wall Street SE wrong but I happened. You know the whole thing is Williams is that people aren't listening and people. That they don't care. I mean we really need someone to help may I on the podium and await these people up. I mean is it's getting it's getting scary but feel like people are just no one. No one listening I don't care and maybe we got to simplify the message that these young people. And and and and minorities so they understand what they're in for for the next ten years if you know. It's if they don't it's apparently did too long into what they just. You know that on here in the -- And other doctors sometimes when you think about the of people arsenal for Obama don't you get the head -- remember the old phrase from history bread and circuses. You know they just -- just getting there were they're getting their free food with the BT cards and they're going -- though -- you know amusing themselves to -- does the as Jerry Williams favorite book title went yeah. You know and they just not paying attention nobody is paying attention or huge percentage of the people aren't paying attention what's happened. 187746943221877. Yeah yeah let's let's make the rich people pay more. And the guys to mention the the CBO study. That the bottom 20%. The of the population in terms of income earners the bottom 20%. Paid three tenths of 1% the total tax burden in between 20072009. Three tenths of 1% the bottom 20% the top 20% -- 68%. Howard and and get the get the Obama says the return paying their fair sheer power your next with how we -- or our. Longtime second -- I think the Biden security lies. In his most which has now. Too tightly connected to restrain them I think maybe Obama is afraid it would bunch ocean might drop he has no longer at any controls. -- cool you won't believe anything he says about anything. After you know after his his forty year record of of being a complete halt. -- money -- talking about lying about his background you know whereas Leo as a coal miner's daughter. Now I'm just talked about is it and he's been wrong on every issue that ever has come up in four in the last forty years starting with the Alaska pipeline. And going up to his playing his brilliant plan to partition Iraq. He's he's just that I don't think I don't think anybody would -- I don't think anybody would miss him -- was -- would -- would be Republicans if he was dumped from the ticket I don't think any. No one's gonna say all -- they they can't -- middle class Joseph he's such a he's such a he provides grab a -- for the administration I can't see it. Thanks for the call our jewel Euronext with power cargo ahead Jolie. How much you know that -- juggernaut. Which it obamacare is going to be so -- of unintended consequences for health care system people have no concept of what it's gonna do. The I don't think I don't think any of us can imagine how bad it's going to be but it's going to be terror it's -- -- I again if you just wanna get a -- -- 88 brief portent. Of what it is going to be just read those British newspapers about the national health service. I can't say that often enough. Which. And I wish it would it would talk about that. Because it is our policy and our doctors or not it would kind of wanna -- doctor. Yeah did you see the of the daily caller I have a story the other day 83% of doctors are considered quitting. I mean if our report doctor Julie would would you wanna stay in this whole system or would you just wanna go to some kind of private. -- -- just good. We just don't out on the radio or on the -- -- -- hospital in Costa Rica a little. Went to Mexico you can go get treatment -- all kind of things just get the hell out -- the. Think that's what I mean that's -- you know that's the way it's always been in this country you know if you got sick in Saudi Arabia or someplace you'd come to the United States to get an -- -- when I was a kid they used to do that you know they come to Florida that. To get the the depress the the -- king of Saudi Arabia came to Florida because he had his he had -- -- problem and so he'd he'd -- took all of our whole -- tell. Is this is now now Americans are gonna be playing America to go to some offshore placed. To get the same kind of health care. It's what I mean where -- talked about going back ports. And the doctors are well and it Obama's plan he wants us to be they're well. Country he wants to be -- I I I just don't understand I don't understand what the you know how. How would does anyone benefit from having this but the greatest society the world has ever known. Tumbled into just a it into just that another Third World hell I just don't understand it. It's not good for it's it's not good for his kids it's not good for my kids are your kids or anybody -- Thanks for the thanks for the call -- 187746943221877469. 4322. You know amino you think of about it you know it's all serious decent health care available. Suppose it doesn't total both the whole system doesn't totally humbled by now. Turn and the Mexico I mean. Suppose there are you know there's the -- won't be enough health care for everybody so how so the government will control it so how would you be able to get good health care. You'll have to go politician. It will be like getting a job in the Probation Department. Is that what you really want. Is is that is that the best best way to to why have a system of of patronage and payoffs to get health care. Actually Third World John your next -- -- -- ahead John. A we you know I'm obviously not a fan of obamacare but -- I think the real problem is structurally what our economy and what you're witnessing I believe it's. We're -- Fiat currency collapsing. Almost simultaneously I mean. You look at -- yet and there's no way they're they're basically two ways to get out of that one -- all. Which no one wants. -- to inflate our. Because there's no way we can get at some point -- going to be a tipping point. What saving are now in Europe is on the boring sort of implement the treasury are -- When that stops you see interest rates spiked to 7% like it is in Spain. No one's gonna be eager to bail out and then we have problems like this country has never seen. So we can talk about Obama care and certain Paul's teaching -- -- we talk about the real structural problem in the country economically. We are in major trouble. You know you can call me crazy I don't care and you want to call -- you've -- -- what was fingerprints. Hold on art assets because anything that's paper. It's subject to a power party. There could potentially go on there I mean look at what happened with an -- globally just took money people without. Well we'll put -- there was another there's another one on the front page of the Wall Street Journal today it's it's not MF global but it's it's it's a company like MF global as much smaller company. Andy they found the head of the company an idea in a car with the what holes up from the cut tailpipe he was trying to kill himself they're out 215. Million dollars John. It's it's unbelievable and you and it is happening -- and hear the vote Barclays fixing the white shortly yeah. That's every single person in the world should be the biggest new story in the country and it won't. Yeah that's it they don't they were ready to have that's the rate for that you get loans -- Bob Barclays has been has been for me going the other rates to get a better better return. And they they just everybody Barclays has just had to quit and it's it's it is NC it's amassed space for the call John. 1877469432218774694322. Mike your next with how we cargo have Mike. Always amateur status be on the elevated. Hey I hit that one might. I did I did busy he would this guy gave me right up to the top of the the bridge the new bridge they have been it's it was really a nice it's a great VO. I told the of people that night that the at the dead are said you know you guys that I know the treasurer thanks the treasurer of -- Bruce eloquent thinks that. You paid too much five million for that at that that. That power but at least you got a nice VO I mean we spent 26 billion on the Big Dig and all we got his over his arrest that light fixture with the seawater comments -- But probably get back to obamacare isn't the penalty excuse me the 95. Yes -- okay so. It'll expire under united are -- charged that I believe that it there's work in the that sent over the -- so that you don't have time. Yeah exactly yeah even if you did say it. So you've been this excited by the news story of the emergency rule on the fall back on sort of the right -- they did know. Exactly I mean they go to the -- the same people who weren't buying their own health care now war art response. Is -- isn't that the the irony here. Is that Obama is saying that people have to be more responsible. His his bowlers -- the people aren't buying the health insurance now who aren't responsible and who won't be responsible under any circumstances. Yeah and that's -- that is that is true that the -- Europe according to some readings of the bill there is no penalty for not buying the insurance. And that's it that's becoming clearer and clearer and its gonna become clear and it continues to become clearer as more people. Studied this thing thanks for the call Mike and thanks for her -- give me the right that was a great a great view of. A mid coast Maine 18774694322. 413 on the Paula mortgage text line. I applied it over 200 places in the last year only heard from a temp agency last week I went from. 1463. In power to nine dollars -- only reason I still have a car to get too was unemployment insurance. 978. H obamacare will result in two Americas the rich will pay privately for great health care of the rest of us will help help help the corps will have crappy health -- let's hope Biden has middle class when that happens. Exactly and I don't understand I. I don't understand why people can't figure this out that the that the the the -- you don't Romney said this today to the NAACP. East did and in Texas she said the he said the rich people going to be able take care of themselves the middle class that's going to be screwed he's talking about the real middle class -- Joseph Biden win backs. But there there is going to be -- two tier health care system in this country a lot more than there is now there is it basically everybody has great health care in the United States I know there are exceptions for the role and I'm not talking about Obama's mother -- that's that's BS all let -- the story told on the campaign trail. But that basically everybody has the best help the church in the the best -- coverage. Medical care in the history of the world and that's not going to be the case if this thing really goes through. 18774694322. On our car. 18774694322. -- we're gonna boston.com. The globe's website during the break him. Fascinating story on their celebrity Scientologist. Tom Cruise Elizabeth moss and Isaac Hayes are among total notable practitioners of the religion founded by L. Ron Hubbard. Isaac Hayes is it is a notable practitioner prompt the -- when he died in 2008. There's his picture though he still I guess he still around according to a Boston hello. One. In the south are -- had a parting ways. Among them. He's dead he is -- I checked that out so but he was when I'm. Cindy is dead money he's been dead almost four years have been somewhat long -- to all are. Just 2008 I just checked that out. From the pole -- mortgage text line how way this is 617 how we I have a friend with family in Greece and for which it has socialized medicine he tells me that have a family members seriously though you have to take a brown paper bag of cash to -- hospital. The pay the doctor directly on the hot shots she told me his family did this when his grandfather was hospitalized. Being -- Ford does not mean being cared for well. Exactly five Voight says there's not a level playing field until the public taxpayer a 100% for their health care period. 603 how we might help cure deduct in insurance deductible as 3000. I'm the guy may just pay the -- the volatile bomb mark killing the middle class. 413 I went from 52000 a year and a eight dollars and eighty cents an hour. Seven I want Ted Kennedy lifts big government health care big Third World immigration Obama and big welfare in the source public K we have. Ted rot in hell let's find fat so Judson. 18774694322207. How we given the fact that this nation is on the verge of destruction and Obama is still in the hunt for reelection proves we're going to destroy ourselves. And here's 17 they won this is -- that. Subsidizing a whole Europe health care insurance premiums is cheaper than subsidizing one heart operation in a hospital does that make sense TO. A tea there's not going to be any more it is -- to be nearly as many heart operations in the hospital. As there are now the only way you'll get a heart operation. Is if you know someone politically or if you have a ton of money and you can go down to one of those private hospitals and Ecuador are. Costa Rica. You have a lot better chance of getting a heart operation that you can't afford to pay for right now the new well in ten years. Of this wonderful socialized medicine. There were about to have. Give Europe a death panel. They -- that Sarah Palin but you know what that's exactly what we're gonna happen that's exactly what they already have been in the UK. Doctors are coming on the senate every day in and in the the papers over there. They're letting people -- they have by they have not not a assisted euthanasia unassisted euthanasia they just abandon people and that's. That's what that's that's what's coming our way -- five this if if something isn't done. Professor George your next with how -- -- have professor George. -- yet how he -- like tiger I think -- the death poll to Uga was. -- -- -- -- All I -- the you know sometimes sometimes I should know people are dead or alive but I thought everybody who buys a case you know I just really solve I said what the -- they talked about. Now you put into the gonna hire thousands of IRS agents under Obama care yes if if I need aren't -- operational global haven't played terrible and. Yeah exactly professor George has -- the question. What if if this is gonna be such a great day is a wonderful thing for everybody in the United States why are they only -- why -- by the opening new medical schools why are they only hiring Internal Revenue Service -- collectors. Oh I think I think we guarantee is will be able to perform one operation they wallet but -- to me. From -- I was gonna say they're gonna performed some rubbery intrusive -- the logical exams -- Thanks for the call professor George 1877469432218774694322. God Larry -- I wished I wish this meant supper and I guess it means something in terms of just you know getting the Democrats on the record if for November just -- -- you know your for the you know you're. Here for obamacare you you this is the EU -- obamacare is gonna work well let's great two thirds of Americans have already figured out that it's not gonna work so. I guess that's the reason why that the house is has taken the smoke this afternoon. Even though it's not going anywhere in the senate where your next with how we cargo ahead Larry. They do it now -- -- I -- orchard and unfortunately. The presidential candidate Mitt Romney say and on the news and talking about obamacare but. The thing that I think he could use as an -- as he could take the example of Massachusetts. -- some numbers and say it was a bold experiment that was put forward to him by the democratic. Senate and put to him in that state senate level. And he went ahead and try to do this sound like a good idea at the time -- totally flip flop by currency slipped. I know why -- I think at the time to do will be done that Larry would have been maybe a year or a year and a half ago army look at that what does the title of his this campaign biography this year. No no apologies. So that kind of wrapped up to what. Did you would have to be an apology would have to be -- crunched the numbers. It doesn't work and it -- fully wall works for this country. -- -- -- that would indirectly he he just doesn't he he can't say it very convincingly I mean that's the reason or inferred from got into that GM last week when he kept calling it a mandate rather than -- -- Because all these years since saw since it was passed in 2006. Kirk has been calling -- a mandate because that's what I've -- has been calling it right. Saw where it's it's I mean it's not like you know Eric went out of his way to screw something up or have you said something so many times it's hard to. It's hard to lose that change gears you know and and I just that. He that's that's the biggest problem he's got as a as a candidate probably is that he can't he can't just come out and say that this is a disaster because. It because Obama comes back and says credibly enough that the BB. The father of obamacare is Romney care. Well that's that's true Ali but the the reality is definitely not my job like a year ago -- sit well. Had several weeks insurance coverage for first or eleven weeks venture that you're ready to run it would get -- run out of it sort I'm -- like on national. And I said -- how much is apparently planned to ourselves for my family for. You know for a year you know how much is if you look. It's like eight king -- and it's not. And -- you know hey here I am I'm unemployed at the time in my income was probably about forty. You know OK but I got another job like beat soak into the hole so deep that. That would be able to get out of but right now he is in these. Well we've got as an example for mandatory insurance system masters. The auto insurance we get our rates in the country and it's the only state that the reach percent buy it by the -- You know we we should -- these things we should you know should go right forward with these things speak to the American people going in day in a clean simple -- saying. We tried it. Doesn't work and that's why I am against obamacare if they think at least at that point he'd be able to expand on what he's saying you know what -- -- right now. On the -- Obama your -- after yes. It's it's too late it's too late Larry I mean the time to do this was you you don't like wind when George warmer George Bush were running in 2000. And he had a IndyCar has said I got arrested for drunk driving in in Kennebunkport. You know many many years ago. -- just figured he didn't say anything that he came out the weekend before the election and almost cost him the election. You know and I I think it's always best to get everything out on the table early in a campaign in this and especially this is. Mean this is that this is -- a small thing this is the that this is the 800 pound gorilla in the room it's too late though it's too late he's got -- he's just gonna have to watch. You know try to carry the girl on his back all the way to the finish line thanks for the caller. John you're next with how we cargo ahead John. Yes now I don't -- I'd like to. Because gradually admits having the guts to -- him double ACP yeah. You know of course a -- doesn't think he needs to focus. Off and hopefully he's he's gonna send he's gonna send the -- often -- out. Middle class -- well. And not get all the -- well who complains about Joseph Kennedy made his money and you want anybody at all but now. And I mean -- -- yeah exactly exactly thanks and thanks for the call John 18774694322. On how we are. Don you're next with how we are not much time left go for it. Yeah -- that I I don't think this is just one big monstrosity. Just one little thing that I don't think that people realize -- that the in this thing is. My understanding is this year coming up three point 8% of every sale of our house is going. -- -- Collect to that accent in my gosh and laid off and it does not point -- 2.3 percent sales tax on every medical device and where I mean Massachusetts is a big medical device state and number two and number so. At where the where the leading innovators of medical devices in the world and we're gonna accept what is what happens when you -- Tax something you get less of it you're gonna get less medical innovations with this. -- -- --