Sandusky Verdict

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But -- but yeah I I hate to go to this topic because this is not super depressing. That you did Jerry sandusky trial in order -- watching it for weeks. For use this -- sort story captivated the country because of the high profile. Of Penn state university and in particular Penn State football and also that Joseph Paterno. They came back with a verdict. Forty fought guilty on 4548 counts I don't know what the three counts that they found not guilty on I feel bad for those kids but -- -- But I I I haven't gone through the entire verdict but that that's I was like -- so what but the date -- not. They do that's just kind of strange but. If you do by the way you -- wanna join the during the program you can reaches it's 6172666868. Because of Texas a 680. Yet Jerry said this I never got comfortable talking as a personal and government couple talking sort of sex abuse cases there are reprinting think that because they're so. Just. It's just terrible -- these kids' lives are ruined for ever. And it's it's it's not something that it took lap but it's not something to it is it is to tinted to poke fun at just this and this is an absolute tragedy. But what strikes me about these cases and you also have a -- in the Catholic Church -- monsignor in the archdiocese Pennsylvania which is found guilty. Of of of -- strip of of basically cover of cover covering up for other popular file priests. I've never understood why cases like this in the sandusky case -- cases church why do. People in positions of power in hot at large institutions and important institutions. High for these guys -- not. Bring in polite and not. Protect the people that make up their instituted that does that make up the reason for the existence of their institution as opposed to do the work for the institution. I've never understood that. Not just at -- -- -- clear and obvious moral reasons to present this puts all of your journal yeah if you're concerned about protecting the instant they hit integrity or institution. What do you -- -- these people would get them out instead of -- and protect my pushed. Yet the that the Penn State one particularly is inching to meet you see someone like elect Joseph pot. Who is in institution in school and he's well respected coach. And he says he went through camp commander whatever report. The things -- with sandusky. If if anything was no matter at all and if it for me you walk into a situation like this and chain of command doesn't do what you want chain of command to do. You keep going it's a big deal that these children. -- also I would think they're questioning authorities not senate comes naturally to a lot of people you know it's especially when your part of an institution. You know your ears you know you're employed by it or you have friends were employed by in your part of institution that I think for for a lot of folks it you know did that does -- a Catholic Church instead of -- reporting -- -- -- they move them around they moved into one from one parish to another you know it is it is far easier just try to handle internally. And visit to to approach the hard questions and and and deal with that in and you know go to law enforcement and and do the right thing doing doing the right thing it's not. Easy is clearly that the Catholic Church -- showed as as the sandusky acacia. 6172666860. Counselor text us at 66. C. Five reset the text message machine over here. I I I wanna put this question you guys the audience listeners to why do you think. Institutions people and institutions protecting -- all. Terrible human beings like this. At the expense of the the of innocent people and also that the reputation there institutions 'cause as we all at all eventually note through our history. The cover up is always worse. While the cover up always exacerbates the crime and this case the crime was horrendous but it makes the crime appear even worse that enabled more decry it enable more crimes take place over a long period of time. That that the same dusty -- I don't know if you guys watch the press conference or anything last night but it was kind of a weird spectacle at the yen to. Because the that the Pennsylvania attorney general came out and if people were celebrating things they were so -- people were cheering people were happy and all I can think of -- Nobody wins in this case because these kids first wives are still -- -- justice has been served but. They can never get that during their innocence or childhood back it's gone the route of the guys go to jail. For forever he's going to be a child obesity -- file imprisoned. -- debt quote you know prison justice saw crap but. At the end of the day. These kids' lives are still. Change and start for. Now he speaks the ideas that you talk about a lot of talk about the death penalty is the same issue. You can kill the guy killed somebody but then there -- per person that is still that yeah and is that there's no justice right. Money can't fix yes you also have all the you this in -- these rotten things and dusty you Stanley gonna be sued into oblivion but at the end of the debt you know against anarchy. You. Doe's bet your innocence is gone you're you know I don't million dollars is nothing can make up for that it's this guy is really is truly a monster. In any and in any. Where he -- describe where he's a monster to speak what you're saying about covering things up and it's covering covering up the establishment people. Now that's been going on for obviously hundreds of years. It's all kinds of institutions can't ends up being a deadly situation this is obviously not the same -- say you eighteenth century colonial governors but now you eighteenth century colonial governors are are faced with all kinds of corruption make it all and all kinds of -- happening -- Hutchinson -- -- -- a -- in Boston. And obviously this is not simply a -- station and a copy. Corruption in the those political families. And the the government and restore depends -- which you know reads in part due to overthrow. I don't know if that's great parallel it's a parallel people protect the the people more power to protect -- who -- let's go to Mike on the cape Mike York nexus scarecrow and I am sixty WRKO. Yeah I don't. Earning it you know and they keep the show bigger. There is a little bit something missing in the -- And what they're saying it's a lot people it like is -- Actually you know or. She turned -- back and rejected because there's. We can't ever picture. And then when I think public key. And I mean some young people rally around this is evil without. And and and didn't want it. Because while Richard call shall we can't out there I mean I hope they are living with themselves. And sleeping tonight -- -- guys belong in jail would almost like being followed -- pretty. And and and that oriented and -- and any one -- follow. American American you. On me sitting up there and defending something it's not dependable. Actually -- -- archer -- about it child. I mean everybody's got -- but that's -- -- of the world from his -- to his lawyer. He handled it at that school that -- -- -- -- -- so well in you know what that's what happened in the Catholic Church it didn't happen. Well it it. And it looked terrible. I I I definitely hear him on on Mike and now on the on the on on the noted and noting his lawyer to hit a terrible attorney. What. Did it. He thought he had defense but why but that's using the term a defense attorney very loosely here this guy. What defense attorney says hey this is a really high profile case once you go on Bob Costas on NBC and national television and dobbs. Borderline incriminate yourself on John Adams is not he was not shot I. I -- -- -- in my did you see Mike did you see that the the Bob Costas interview with sandusky. I know you know I I her attorney says. Am I -- it was only one thing visually one thing city any mental. Disturbed character. That we need to be taken out of society and attended church have been taken out a long time ago. And and the state of Pennsylvania. -- and it it's only excuse me that they don't know what's going on. I'd heard the government the previous governor kind of like well you gotta understand. You know I don't have to understand you -- -- yeah one -- important position of the tech. And although law and you got no well you've got out well. Yeah all right here Mike great call thanks for the call Mike. 61726668686172666060. Were talking about the Jerry sandusky case as well as the case of up. Monsignor win in the and Pennsylvania he was also convict he's the first high level. Catholic official in any archdiocese in the country that's been convicted on any criminal charges. Related to the -- child sex abuse cases of the early two thousands. It's just it's just a strange wave that we're going through through right period I know there was the child sex abuse this -- scare in the eighties and we were all a little kids you have the -- Fells acres case up in an -- up fells acres day care case you had that sort. Panic over. Child sex abuse in day care the -- but now we're sure it. Going through this period of at least the last 1210 years of high profile sexual abuse gays -- people and harbored in a variety of institutions. Is this just people -- off. -- loyalty to institutions and and places of power positions have been people. The institutions that carry large that carry heavy authority or is -- stick to something deeper in art society. That maybe there's just this. Plague of -- files that we do know. What I'd I think. A lot of it has to do it with a note that the media being 24/7 now the you know anywhere and we're not at all and silos. You know we can we can reads London newspaper in San Francisco Philadelphia -- sitting from our homes in Boston so. You know if -- interest in particular topic like you know tracking. Cases of pedophilia and and court cases you know you can you can do that a lot more easily now -- and does so it's it it seems like just it is I think there's more attention being brought to especially since the crime so -- now. Yeah and you know it's at the same time you see. -- interest in respecting traditional institutions in this particular case that actually benefits society yeah not wanting to protect the Catholic church and doing something terrible. Is is a good thing we should be protecting that it's it strikes me is interesting that this this came out when it came out initially when that's the Catholic sex scandal. Kate started being much more public a few years back. Everyone was surprised it didn't seem that surprising if you grew up perhaps Catholics people talking about. Questionable activity among priests since I was little -- yes but parents Republicans. People are just pointing fingers. Yeah I. It's funny is this this hit -- And if -- David Brooks wrote this call aboard a week two weeks ago bought out. Yet this yearning for the good old days and people respected institutions in authority to hear the great days like the 1950s and we agree it's too she's like. Segregation and everybody had bomb shelters and things are so great and no I I think it's a good thing that people are wary and skeptical. Of institutions of authority are willing to challenge -- and I think that the Catholic Church -- a great example of that depends state scandals agree that. But I -- -- -- -- -- Penn State case to that said there was such a cult of personality around football program around Joseph Paterno. I don't want to. Sound sympathetic for Joseph Paterno bomber Colorado when parents said he probably -- retired about ten years twelve years ago I don't think. He was -- at the Helm of that program I don't think he was fully in control what was going -- Kennedy just look at the way he carried himself -- -- -- the way he -- in the program. You know there's a good case to say that he really wasn't in the. Why wasn't what he once was but he still had that aura and mystique that he could hang nobody could say hey Joseph pot you've got to grow it was. He yet so -- it's so much. It's so much it's so much capital in the bank so to speak you also found that to you know is that that Casey is is he is he is is is he one of the people to blame in this position is -- Yeah no -- its heart it's hard to beat up on because he didn't commit the actual and it isn't a 100% sure that he knew about the crime and he reported -- I mean he went report went -- channels. That he made -- did that may or may not be the best -- to go through it but at the same time it's hard it's hard to convict somebody of a crime of Byron from their jobs -- for not doing something public Diddy -- commands they -- Jerry -- it was wrong. I I don't recall him doing no I don't I I think he said I don't remember exactly what. Joseph Paterno said in the aftermath of the revelations of the scandal. But every it did appear that he was just completely clueless in the way he carried himself. Here yeah there was that instance of him getting outside of his house in College Station on. We are Penn State just like this he looked like this. Tired. The -- re your I was sick crazy old man but you look like this. Lost all men who is asserted trying to. Hang on to something that he didn't -- was just he was completely oblivious to what was going on it clear he is a tired old man I mean it's dead at -- -- was attacked at he would tired yeah man. And this is this is a guy who's going towards the twilight of his career as being one of one of the most prominent football coaches in colleges now that it's. Allred right yeah I mean right at the end of his career. Everything's all right so obviously he's been a shock you think it kill them. Do you think the scandal kill health. And I he got like a month after he retired. Now I don't mean -- -- I mean that's. I. I I can't imagine him going through the trial and being called to testify that would it changed everything I he's probably. It was such a shock to him I have to believe that this came out and I don't receive his denial but. If this -- it this way if this case happens at like Joe Schmo eastern tech university state. It doesn't have nearly the national profile the national attention even if it's the same number of victims. Similar circumstances if if it's not Penn State if it's not but Joseph Paterno is Boise State. Let's say it's not the Gonzaga the it doesn't have the same US summer scandalous Syracuse and it didn't really come even close to the national profile case. I just. You know I it's it's it it's a tragedy I I I guess justice has been served if you wanna call that non. And is. She just the victims who bought I'll be interest to see what happens between now and sentencing. And it's I I know he was put on suicide watch this morning. Cells. An and now they're saying -- of the Stanley are coming forward to our pastors yeah well yes six Foster kids and they're all laws often I guess -- some of them coming for now saying they were. Molested and they were touched and it just. God that's a lot of people accuse you. Know what -- there were ten witnesses I think or ten victims testify right I think ten or eight. And then I've got other people come out of the woodwork. Art. We have to take a quick break here mind scarecrow in this is and succeed WRKO. And Smart from a Boston's talks it's. And sexy. WR stereo.