Twila Barnes, a Cherokee genealogist, to challenge Chief Warren

Wow you. Todd Brian -- show brought to you by now. Funding corporation. Gotta be good in. It's. Sunshine -- getting much warmer as the week goes on and brilliantly caught on Wednesday it's about time. -- for outrage charity activists who say Elizabeth Warren's campaign has ignored their emails and phone calls. Will trek to Boston this week may be here already in hopes they can force a meeting would -- -- that's from today's herald of joining us now is the person. At the head of that group Twyla -- Twyla good morning welcome to WRK -- once again. -- -- -- Do we lose our. Now I'm year old high Twyla. How -- you Dylan. Song I think our UN sound. No not yet but coming in today. Okay good and what is do you hope to achieve by coming to Boston. We would like. To have that they that they school let Elizabeth Warren and show her her genealogy. Because we have documentation. For everything. And that and how -- gigahertz. How many native Americans are there are her in her ancestry. How many you got tied. 880. While. Now are you you're you're coming with just a few people write this for you coming. Kentucky people there I mean eventually just that it did that can get it in a group of people all over it. I remember strategy can get carried federally recognized tribes. Continental and can't hurt. -- restaurant group setting. You know I don't get it happens in the future that more people if you know we are people don't get racial. What are you the only ones upset about this story is it. I'm not -- now. Actually it's just a practical matter of you know how many people can you play transportation. For -- -- -- yeah. So can you articulate force what is the nature of your anger with -- war news. Because she. Aaron and changed -- or Bartlett street and it -- I'm. A veteran suddenly people are -- -- Carol ash and he says he never realized he's gonna that they won't happen that he gets angry when he hears someone. Claimed to be in the military that and there are not. And he says NIC what they're doing this sort of trite they're stealing your ancestors and -- opening -- their ancestors in the situation buildings. So you think that she's committed -- fraud. By pretending to be part of a class of people who've been harmed by government policy. And as such wants to take benefits. By getting jobs teaching at fancy colleges in -- all kinds of money. And really that opportunity belongs to somebody else. What do you think you can do about it. I'm out -- playing it was we just like to get hurt to -- -- that she English while. I'm very advanced thousand of people across the United States should maybe change cranes and they checked the box sir. And Allah didn't. You know if you are allowed some -- Has changed that status and -- -- -- to get away with that everybody else just don't expect to get away with it as well. Is this something that you know about that that's been quantified are they even use this actually a common thing for people listen to play minority scams. I let it yet there are three federally recognized. Cherokee -- the United States there are 200 plus it's. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Fraudulent tribes. It's not just individuals claiming ancestry they. There are groups of people who don't try to form their own tribe and then they trying to. They're gates doesn't recognize searched the constitution center at all the federal government shouldn't. Interact with Indian nations the State's well recognized tribes. For whatever reason sometimes it's just bring true isn't Jewish state. And eight people who don't they have narrow part and I mean don't have to prove anything usually their check just can't -- their member. Have you ever had an experience like this where somebody is seeking position of power war. And gets into the limelight the way -- Warren has on you know riding on the backs of your people. I happen. I -- the man I mean there may be other chair teaching -- a legitimate ward Churchill -- but he you know he didn't run out. Is ward Churchill situation this is the on the professor from the university Colorado. Is this situation similar in that he really has no provable links. To try. Never looked at his ancestry back from what I understand he doesn't have that either. What were you sailors warnings tackler imagine you're sitting down where their right now. Did she says while -- thank you so much for coming what can I do for you. I was okay. Here and I would lay her genealogy on the table and trying to hurt and I -- so where's the Cherokee. Then she'll say look I never claimed to have done researcher have data. -- claimed that I was raised. Being taught that I had. Ancestry. In the Cherokee tribe as so many people do in Oklahoma what are you want from me. Then at that point I would -- you know it -- to this why didn't choose. Learn about your ancestors Bradley that you can defect can learn about it why didn't interact with Cherokee. She never took -- -- so she would have taken -- step toward that earnings frustration you know their Lucent -- there. When then she says you Twyla. The American people are getting hammered that's what I care about five fight every day of my life. For struggling middle class people for the downtrodden that's what I'm in this race for don't mess me up I'm trying to do good things. And that stray in that direction does this step -- The poorest people in the country and try to get to actually -- you can help the middle class. And that's wrong. It certainly is isn't. I mean it's really it's horrifying thing when you think of what she did. Any. And I'm the only I get heard about the three knows we need. Who killed themselves. This week. That factually and that's because they didn't feel like they had -- And how can they were people like Elizabeth Lorraine -- -- their particular spot but maybe they -- attack as they grew up and got their education. Yeah I'm glad your bringing the genealogy to show her. But it almost isn't the point anymore whether she's got a legitimate claim to some sort of thus scraps of ancestry are not with a with a picture the turkeys or any other tribes. Because it's where it's really about even if she does have that even a few more. Geological. Search prove that she did have a relative a thousand years ago from a tribe. So that doesn't give her the right to claim a -- today in a university of tenured position university because she's their first woman of color. And I and I think Aaron because there are people who auditioned for -- Cherokee chief cannot register. -- opinions at three general types we know that that we can Trace stand Drupal Cherokee records. Care Stanley separated from the nation and last their citizenship for now there's people at this should not one of those people. But I didn't it somewhat separated from an -- 20300. Years ago and have nothing more in common anymore. Exactly that's one and the thing that -- Liz Warren is claiming to have when she pretends to be. -- native American is she's pretending to have shared in the suffering. And the disadvantage. And some kind of setback that needs to be corrected fourth through through these affirmative action type programs. Actually she is she I am Monday that Dolan Ballard saying again that -- Some people and I we're talking yesterday and we thought how would she like -- -- Lucia thank US army there and there out of her after the latter have anything against. -- -- -- -- -- -- And then you know when it was winter told your dog had walked Oklahoma. Should do you think you know that was wrong but that's proprietary approach just for actually Cherokee. -- -- Barnes good luck with -- your trip here would you check in with us and keep a surprise to what's going on. They have so much oil Barnes is say but a part of Cherokee Nation she's coming with a few representatives. Today to Boston in order to have a meeting with Elizabeth Warren Elizabeth Warren hasn't agreed to one. But they're coming anyway. And it's got to be fun to see how she handles this. I assume she'll do the normal big business political thing and that is to ignore them. Unless they get enough media to -- turned to doing it because that's our -- politics you ignore the problem. In the last six can command enough attention to leverage UN to act at 6172666860. At the top fibers showed WRKO. -- --