Avi Nelson - Obama's Immigration Policy Reform

Well good. This is Donnie Nelson welcome of the program I guess this is the last program before summer and meteorological. Summer. Psychological -- starting with the Memorial Day. In any event this school unpleasant washing of the weather forecast says no 194. Mid week. So enjoy the sixties now. Car phone numbers 8774694322. And that. Is still free text message code 68680. Email address -- Nelson at wrko.com. And so we take all modes of communication. -- We prefer. Of course that you actively participating in the program. Well I should mention that for those of you who missed a program that to you for mr. groups who may I tell you nobody has any excuses anymore. You're used to be all in my town -- Kinnear will -- goes because you can get it online. And even if you are occupied during three of 5 PM on Saturday. The programmers posted harsh I diligently post the program on WW WRKO. Brochure which is WRK -- dot com. She's still there follows some of the instructions and you can find the program and listen to an end any time. Should have regular quiz there are no excuses for people saying did he missed I missed it. However not saying that of course should -- she Greek food and hope that you'll enjoy it as it's going on lying then that you participate. Okay we have to commemorate a couple of days. Tomorrow is Father's Day. Not surprisingly. There was inaugurated as a complement to Mother's Day. Actually happened in the early. Part of the twentieth century. And there was really goes and years and their people involved there people who push these things there was a woman who pushed Mother's Day in the United States. -- a woman named Anna Jarvis and sure enough there was a whole lot of effort then following up. Pause -- will have room woman named Senora Dodd who pushed Father's Day was actually founded. In 1910. -- -- checkered history. Of course there are commercial interests involved all low. Not surprisingly there is some more commercial success for Mother's Day -- Father's Day. In the 1920s. It can kind of waned 1930 started promoting unity and shared help. From the trade groups who would benefit motion in the holiday in those days it was the manufacturers of ties. Tobacco pipes. Mend I guess -- any traditional present to fathers it doesn't work as well now and of those two would probably not be the highest on the bullish for Father's Day. Nowadays. Anyway the there was growing interest in -- and by the mid 1980s that. Fathers counselors who was called. -- their Father's Day become a second Christmas. Pro men's gift oriented industries. Presidential Lee bill went to congress. Introduced in 1913 1916. President Woodrow Wilson. Went to speak in Spokane Washington their Father's Day celebration. With a movement that started. Want to make it official but congress resistant. Fearing that it would become commercialized. I can't imagine that happening. President Coolidge in 1924. Recommended the daily observed by the nation that stopped short of issuing a national proclamation. 1957. Maine senator Margaret Chase Smith uninteresting they're number women's names associated with a wrote a proposal accusing congress of ignoring fathers for forty years while honoring mothers. In 1966. President Lyndon Johnson issued the first. Presidential proclamation. Honoring fathers and designating the third Sunday in June as Father's Day. And six years later that day was made uproar and national Holland. 1972. President Richard Nixon saying. And you thought you were only be remembered for Watergate. But I assure you she's good deeds that lapse into obscurity. The bad deeds Watergate remained. Anyway there is say if in addition to fathers' vision international men's day which I was unfamiliar with celebrated in many countries on November 19. For men and boys who -- fathers. Vision thing usually how Father's Day is celebrated us sort of people wanna call and talk about it. Now it ought to be a day were fathers can do what they want. I have a feeling a lot of -- sort of get coerced into oh dear you should spend with the family -- Penalized revenue at the -- who wanted to go off with the boys and then Jerusalem you know this gives. If you buy your father or wrench that's terrific. Just how well -- do you think could be on Mother's Day if you brought your mother remarked. So. Just. A different level than women have a different view of this for women. There's the constant need for reinforcement I love you know send me flowers why you don't -- you know getting you don't hear that from fathers -- -- -- million. More open your rounds and more she didn't appreciate -- thought whereas she never mind and screwdrivers anymore. So. I don't know what the different people celebrated different -- Asian if you would like to. Join in the conversation -- offer some thoughts on Father's Day Mother's Day in the difference in psychology between the two. This should interest -- of course over the last few years. There's been greater attention. Paid to the importance of them fathers in the family. This at a time when there are probably more single mothers than ever before and some of those families suggestion launch. And there -- headed by issue among -- -- real problem especially in the minority community. However. His Father's Day happy Father's Day to all those. Fathers out there and hope you get to celebrated the way. You would like him that you were appropriately appreciated especially by your. -- Also June 17. This goes back to 1775. The battle of Bunker Hill took place and that's why we have. Mon -- hill today it's not celebrated nearly as widely but in the Washington area are in these here parts it is. Took place on. Crummy call breeds hill during the siege of Boston. None June 13 while we're little bugs can just skip over okay. June 13 the leaders of the colonial forces besieged in Boston learned that the British generals. We're playing Russian troops out of the city to occupied and unoccupied hills surrounding the city. To 12100 colonial troops under the command of -- -- got occupied Bunker Hill and three -- Constructed a readout and earth in readout on three shell. And bill -- fortified line because most of the Charlestown peninsula. The British were alerted to the president and the new position the next day they knocked in an attack. And after two assaults the colonial lines were actually repulsed. The British finally captured the positions on the third assaults. After the defenders ran out of ammunition. So the result was even though we. We celebrated Bunker Hill day issue commemorating part of the revolutionary war. Technically not because -- appreciated that it was important along the way. The result was a victory for the British but they suffered very heavy losses over 800 wounded and 220 sheiks killed. So the battle was seen as an example of a pyrrhic victory you know victory which. North technically a victory but in reality is a setback. Because the game was demolished. And the cost was very -- Anyway -- hill day tomorrow. Then it's not celebrated a -- day or you can have a day off from. Back to work on Monday. If you're just joining us good afternoon happy Father's Day gain in advance. 877469432. To the phone number. These text message coach X 868. Email address say Nelson and wrko.com. Okay to. Issues of greater import. And more having to do with the news. Interesting tidbit that I heard all watching a television news program. You hear complaints now from the Democrats about money being poured in my. Wealthy Republican contributors. In 2004. George Soros. Contributed over twenty million dollars to democratic groups for as against George Porsche. This comes from can't tar. Mean they can't turn media they ever they can shell group there called the campaign media analysis group GM AJ. Twenty million dollar should keep that in mind the next time somebody complains about. Money coming in from the right. And this tidbit before we get to -- immigration. -- -- -- If she's one of the ones in the view I -- watch that program later Roloson -- a clip from an emerges onto the owners. Or one of the uglier women are on television. She was attacking. Mitt Romney for disagreeing with president Obama's call to hire more firemen and other public sector workers. It -- should she would like to. -- she wonders homes catch -- to quote. I'd like to see his house burned wood in these millions of -- is burning down. Who she going to call the warmer and fire patrol. Unquote. Now notice. The ugliness of that statement Paul put into one millions of -- right. What I'd like this she is house burned down. And bringing in the religion to. I don't know her religion. Approach where you'll like it means they are some really brought that into it. Now imagine if somebody. On the right she of course is ultra left petroleum right -- says something about Barack Obama's house burning down. All. You could hear the complaint she couldn't ricocheting. Across the continent. If you were how -- complain and talk about racism and and evil. But people on the left -- seed Justine she to have any kind of hesitation and there are no repercussions -- I gather. For the comment that was made. But still. It's nice to. To identify. The ugliness. Vulgarity of the of some of the people on the left. Immigration. The president. Has decided that. It's okay for people who. Were. In this country through no fault of their own this is a constant refrain people who brought years of his children. That they should be able to stay with which curious about this well at least give a little bit of the -- -- where she's been the leading news story. It's an executive order issued by the president. It'll play any illegal immigrants who came to the US before they were sixteen. And our younger than thirty. They also must have no major criminal offenses. Have been the country for at least five continuous years. Have graduated from the US high school. Or burned a ged and equivalent diploma or served in the military. Individuals should men convicted of a felony a French. Or other significant misdemeanor potential three or more misdemeanor offenses. Are not eligible. And so. What president made big too big to do about how they are Americans and every single way but one on paper and so we have to make the change. No attention about this. He is just few months ago. The same president say he couldn't do it. By executive order. That's because they're yelling at the -- law and of course fish fish and running congress. He's not going to do well in terms of getting a broader solution. To this just this narrow rejected -- Warner. But it's political season. And curiously the president thinks team needs shoring up with the Hispanic community got two thirds of the vote last night. Probably gonna get two thirds of at this time. But they've been a little bit disgruntled because he hasn't done much for immigration reform. We talked a lot about it until the first two years of his term in congress there was controlled by his policy. And yet. Got nothing done. Understanding that he had to work with congress now all of a sudden. He's she's a way to do it enjoy issues in the jacket -- -- Can't charge to make it sound like -- know endure the politics. Well it's curious argument is that they keep saying all the short and nothing to no fault of their own touch -- on every bloody. All of -- had no choice will we were born right. Well for -- metal -- we are 123 years old we have no choice and we we lived. So it's not that clear to me that somehow that this is an isolated group. No part of this thing about this for a moment on his attention shareware now look how -- those kids your valedictorian in game. Him the benefit of all this we should take the benefit away. The -- of the benefit. Is predicated. On a crime. And illegality. And all those benefits and therefore flow. Obama who shall we say they are the fruit -- in the illegal seized during illegal sampling that was planted. I think the -- a different context here. Supposing why -- three or four years old. Your father and mother rob a bank. Then they give you therefore they gave. They have a ton of money you may give some benefits do you you live in nice -- And when you get to be sixteen they give you a nice car to drive and you have fancy clothes and a whole bunch of things. And then it's discovered that they rob the bank. And somebody probably from the bank or some depositors say -- we want the money back. Just somebody's saying we you know but the children. Child here who's innocent. He didn't do anything. We shouldn't take away the money and the caller from him. Because he didn't rob the bank. So you get the benefits of the crime. And you begin to show me. That it's not quite so simple legally to share way committed a crime. And we know you shouldn't get away were -- We'll let the kids get really that put -- on the kid's name. I'm being intentionally flip because it is a complicated problem. That you have also had to pound the difficulty. That this war it is going to go out now. To. Everybody else. Who's not yet an illegal immigrant improvising incentive. To come here and -- have a kid who bring the kid what you. And the policy the United States will be toward the parents catch me if you can and who will try to catch you. Credentials they catch me if you can't. But my kid kids. Will be okay. Now the immigration problem malicious broader than that or do something about the borders. For doing the same time maybe were -- -- solve the problem of the borders first and then address the issue of the poor innocent children. And there would be a better approach. OK we have to take a break right those you'd like to join in the conversation on the subject. By all means 8774694322. He is C phone number. Just one -- text message from seven anyone before we go to break. Romney's house can't -- has a sprinkler system. Back on the other side of paying some bills -- Nelson. Welcome back this is on -- Nelson happy Father's Day to you all. Tomorrow. We've begun the program we talked about immigration new immigration policy the president. And young people here who brought you earlier. Or youthful in their youthful years and are still relatively young can stave them commit any crimes etc. Your thoughts are welcome made 7746943. -- is the phone number text message code 68680. And the email address a Nelson at wrko.com. Go to the telephone lines now go first to Jim Jim good afternoon your first up. -- Very spirited jump. I I I listened to you every Saturday as I'm driving around. Doing my chores and errands smooth thank you and I gotta tell you you just do not have a heart. Appreciate you listening and I am so happy that President Obama did what he did. These young people are innocent. They work hard in school many of them have put their lives on the line fighting for us abroad and you don't wanna give -- seventies show. Well actually you know I would make an exception for people who have served in the military and he drove a point there few few few fought for the country. That I would make an exception to the pro might have Jim his understand which is Shaq. But there are repercussions so policy for example. Are you concerned that this will provide an incentive for a whole bunch of other people to come here illegally and bring their children. It just doesn't bother me I'm sorry that issue to Obama. Let me ask you about let me ask the broader question Jim does illegal immigration. Bother you at all on the should we have any rules at all for immigration or should be. Anybody who wants to come across the border no questions asked. I would say just about what we're doing now I'm probably one that would be a strict. But I don't mind what we have in place right now I I really hate the idea. That we -- neighbor Mexico we've prepared a purple -- I think it's so insulting we don't do it with Canadians. And I was feeling that word our notebooks are illegal Canadians in here but the Americans don't get the death of their skin as. That's so nothing to do -- Jim apart from your -- you know obvious. These are pictures up of people who were Caucasian and and denigrating them as being all -- the reason. That we don't have much of a problem with the Canadian border as the Mexican border is a numbers case. There are just a relative handful of people from Canada who try to sneak into the United States whereas there. Hundreds of thousands millions of people have come across the Mexican border you know when you know people say our children. Being -- -- -- human beings. Played horrible horrible and it. Oh no not all of them -- our Jim. A whole bunch of them. Come -- commit crimes. And do you think there should be any of it should be allowed criminals should come in should you should -- I want to get a good thing about its electric criminal or are you of the gym now knows that means you've got to have rules and you've got to have. Computer some enforcement's of the border so that -- -- kernel while women sure are you in favor of it. I'm saying look it's not my highest priority either other things more important. I look at these people it's human beings I want them -- -- criminals are made to I want them to have citizenship. Yes short criminals gem and so people are mental the criminal and -- -- -- did not gonna happen criminals come -- And you gonna have and not be undesirable. And not the people who just gonna be burdens on the welfare system then means you have to. I'm saying if you don't want those. Then -- going to have to have some kind of border enforcement border control and the people who come here illegally are gonna have to be sent back right. Oddly my mother is in a nursing home district court not for these immigrants. There would be nobody helping her why why nobody I doubt they will help work. We have a high when you talk much you we -- high unemployment didn't. In this country why do you think there wouldn't be anybody take the job. Well educated Americans that might not have a job right now. They will not take. Struck John we've got unemployment over 8% and you make his grand pronouncement without any the backing up the -- to -- -- and I'll. I'm a -- and her survey yes and number nobody would nobody would take the job in the nursing home if we didn't have twelve million illegal immigrants. If you want labor. So many people say that I've heard him say that people. CEOs of companies have set it. Send more us that there wouldn't be jealous we need these illegal because there are so many Americans. But will not take these words -- job. A lot of hogwash Jim. Don't give me this nonsense about how she -- just. They just aren't people -- John you may get solidly lower unemployment of one point 8% said they point 2%. I just read it Bobby. I just read today in the paper. That people Republican governor of Mississippi Haley Barbour. It's making the exact same argument so I'm making is we need these people to fill those jobs that most average person's will not take. I don't know what Haley Barbour saying that that is a lot of nonsense Jim. There are -- I don't care what Haley Barbour says I'm telling you we know we have high unemployment your first argument Jim humanitarian one is your strongest to make this economic at a time you're saying we should allow whole bunch more people to come in at a time of high unemployment is contradictory. To the economic problems we have. What I wanna make. Just one final point and then -- move on. You said the President Obama has done nothing with regard to immigration President Obama pushed very strongly for the three and act. And that's only because -- filibuster in the United States senate. That that builds -- not passed and it was to democratic party's fault because they were three democratic senators that did not vote for it. And therefore they could make steps sixty both. Believe it that would have allowed that. You're doing a little too generous with Barack Obama his concentration in the first two years wasn't on the DREAM Act it was on obamacare which is one of the reasons why he didn't have the political capital to get -- -- and now all of a sudden when he said he couldn't have done an executive order before now just a few months before the election he discovers the executive order route but Jim you may consider. They're -- wonderful thing he's doing you can argue plus or minus on that. But to ignore the politics of -- and to think that sum up Barack Obama is just discovering humanity -- to be -- -- -- -- -- 8774694322. These phone number. Let's see from 781. Jim launched -- pay for alien lay abouts. PA should they shoveled his mother off on a nursing home for her care. Do as I say how well I don't know the details for why the mothers in the nursing home. But let's not make it that all people who've come across the border are wonderful people and they've come here to work and they just advancing the country. The prisons have their share of the illegal aliens who have come here committed crimes who are you. In effect. Getting benefits of this system that they haven't contributed to. There are some on both sides granted but there's a whole flock of twelve many of the twelve million who are here who are very undesirable. And you look. -- start with a system of law as. If you gonna be violating the -- to begin with. Then you wonder what kind citizenship -- promoting here. -- -- 774694322. Mike you're next on the program go ahead. They had daylight you don't have they're getting better have a break. But I'll tell you what they could impact. It would ever rebel -- cracker to begin negotiate billion rather than risk involved. Of course good answer to keep of people would trigger -- bad again and creator of food mantra that other people aboard the look at I'm not hard -- -- -- right. I say -- -- but does so with a -- and the president said just. They're -- they do. There in your school there in your -- -- well that's -- that makes it easier part in the god could put them back on the campaign problem so I'm in the construction trade. They've taken that -- -- Being our immediate every day. Thank you Mike -- Mountain hero about the folks. -- from seven they won whatever 71 GM has embarrassed my name. He had this nonsense about how G they just nobody know Americans would take the job let. You know in the job market works. If there are no takers for job but the giving wage. Than the waged gets booted up right. Until somebody does take the job. That's how the job market works that's why some professions pay more than others. His business -- we need to have the illegal immigrants. In order to take jobs church just that's just not true but the way I do want to. Scott mentioned Scott Brown. Issued a statement. In reaction to Obama's new. Immigration policy. Here's what he said. Quote. I opposed this policy and legislative form and I oppose it today is inject your border. Well I'd be open to allowing young people who have chosen military service. To obtain citizenship. In recognition of the extraordinary. Sacrifice involved. I'm afraid that the administration's policies too broad. And which set off a new wave of illegal immigration. Making the problem worse not better. Unquote. Are surprised god -- but he was gonna go and -- supported because sooner -- votes in Massachusetts. But I agree with them. -- -- keep in mind -- what about all those people who have been playing by the rules who are waiting in line. To get citizenship. And now all of a sudden. The president of the United States for obvious political purposes. Just hand wage aside. And let's all these people staying in not technically they're not on a path to citizenship not yet. But hey with the exception of voting or something. They can they get to get work -- renewable every two years that's what the new policy is they can stay there indefinitely. And lift quite comfortably. While the other people still waiting -- -- -- get citizenship. Sure there's inherent unfairness to some others who -- playing by the rules. And there's another thing too when you communicate from highest office in the land. That playing by the rules is not a requirement. Now changed the rules. You make everybody a little bit cynical about obeying the laws right. You make everybody think woo more about being asked offline. They wouldn't get away with it. Show there's another downside to it. Okay hit 87746943. To choose a phone number. Dave you're next on the program good afternoon. I have they I'm gonna have to agree -- him I think Jim had it. Hit the nail right on the head. Probably Jim needs to understand this. That the Archie Bunker type in the David do types. Who's gonna call -- station they don't understand that the demographics of this. Country is changing in this price isn't in this skit. All she -- -- spare us the selling sparrows a Psycho babble you. You -- all I have to bear in mind you know you don't -- yes I do now cycle analysis performed out of ignorance in the distance yeah I mean -- funny you don't know you don't know all these are you ruling you don't know what's going on so I managed and I got. The -- that you feel before just because you say it doesn't mean that it's right. Know now that the OK okay just because you'll say it doesn't make it right right up because did you think thank you could do the cycle analysis -- doesn't make it real. We shot because it did. This is the same policy. They Ronald Reagan. Ride on -- who's your favorite station right on. CNBC. The Reagan made this same speech about. These individuals that they need to us transition to. Him since he made this same exact -- Obama is making. I am I now know I enjoy your day -- bad news for you day. Neither CNBC. Nor Fox News Channel existed when Ronald Reagan was president. To Bobby I don't think you listen to what I just said I said that that they should quit. -- -- -- Even says that I'm already made this may John ozolinsh. Same exact speech I mean but he had the problem is in. You saw today. Reagan was wrong you're right I may I just I can't get -- enemies try and now. They listen to me just because you trial Ronald Reagan. Doesn't mean. There were going to Jen your -- and I now have a very I 35 years ago Ronald Reagan did most of the things that Ronald Reagan did were terrific. But I don't think he force saw that there was going to be this endless wave or be illegal immigrants and a policy that was never gonna get solved. Well oddly you know with Jim Jim again Jim headed right. When it has to do with the only known why the U. In the other individuals. How are making a big pay about it he then they make a big head about it when the Irish and Europeans is coming in. He's. Thinking about it out it's because these individual happened hippies are cause that's the only reason why it's. Steve and the bigger -- human. These these individual that I just look at this that the -- obvious. -- in the first place truly Irish. And then tell -- -- mega mega mega -- -- When they were coming over we're -- a hundred years ago I was hardly in a position to make the argument what I -- guardians say yes we are. Yes we are gave. That's when that's when the waves of immigrants from European immigrants came over here that's point one point two. There was an awful lot of resistance at that time. And a lot of bigotry. You know all Irish need not apply and all the derogatory names. That apply to the various ethnic groups in the same arguments. We're used by people than -- its vendors like big it's blue like you've proved to be true. That you exhibit now how much Paul you can tell from the greasy hair in the swore the poll learned they don't look like us took. The same kind of ugly arguments were made but there's this big difference. Those are being made against you immigrants who were coming here but the immigrants who came here. Did so legally. There were no welfare systems that you live awfully awful for all aboard other people that earned. Don't know bilingual education they came here -- they wanted to work hard and they built a great country. There are whole bunch of the Hispanic. Immigrants. Legal and even a bunch of them illegal -- in the same category. But unfortunately. There are also a whole bunch of of people coming here illegally. Who. Have been a burden to society who have committed crimes who were involved with murder and drug wars. And are very cluttered up our prisons so there are a lot of problems here. If we're gonna have rules of the road gave you gonna have. Laws that aren't going to be effective immigrant reinforced all the wash -- whole thing. Is meaningless and you can just go over and plunder your neighbor's property and you don't care. -- issues lost he he he got tired of my having. Having the chance to respond. So. Then and one other thing to being of people listen this program for from them and go back to begin spare us the Psycho -- Don't give us this psychological. Profiling that you do as if you know what's going on with people. As you if you think it you can understand that the reason we don't like you these because of this that of the other kind of and impaired thinking that we have just deal with the arguments day you have enough Schobel getting through those. Without doing this at a distance ignorant psychoanalysis. I wish you are not qualified and for which you have no doubt. -- okay pensions we are law abiding on this station we have bills to pay which we always pay. Which brings us to a break and we'll bring us back on the other side this is nothing else. Welcome back this -- Don Nelson threesome. Text messages. Unemployed from 212 -- New York's unemployed black Americans are not why each unemployed black Americans stand to lose more of these illegal immigrants for anyone. Action that's true because the lower level jobs there are more black Americans working in lower level jobs. Let's see what -- from 603. When David and Jim do not get is that as conservatives we unwind them and not just lockstep support. Whatever idiocy are leaders occasionally spew. And 617 why is Dave live in Brookline. Not these Boston chills Syria Iran arched bridge -- worldwide news in Brooklyn. More politically I think they deserve each other. -- 877469432. To the phone number rob richer next on the program good afternoon. I mean look -- Allah is great you know you get gave you attack you personally write out the back it up at the ultimate goal locate get a tech currently stated that the conversation. Bobby I have the other three step program that kicked all the illegals out okay. That's number one. Every governor that's the conservative they get rid of a lot of their own states okay that means that he shot along a lot so therefore they're gonna come to all the liberal states. And that's what all happened almost did it matches as California New York Illinois we'll have all the illegal in those states. All of the people vote on what they want paper of the book to them but they're not and that a lot of my state. -- web where all -- which would stay it is your state. My investors right now but I have no control but -- not I don't. I know but you just came up with a plan or they -- all come over here. Well that that's all I know embattled -- right here but if I get squeezed the motto all these other states and and and look we gotta get a handle that we give -- a bigger than everybody. And the question is. It's all about jobs. Real have a job that we're ready to wanna get the jobs were probably. Well that brings us of course to the whole poll question about job creation in the sluggish economy. -- -- real jobs I'm not brought Bob Dudley do right. That's right that's that's tricky Robert thank you the -- -- you know I must say that I know locations where. There are people who come here even the illegal immigrants have come here and -- -- the children who are indeed working hard. You know there there's an unfairness. That happens in the marketplace. And in the world when you have launched. It doesn't always lead to perfect conclusions for everybody. The point is so that you have to draw lines otherwise you end up. -- is a real don't block alone hand remember there was a time when from Cuba. Castro started dumping all the criminals and mental defect -- on the -- the shores you on our shores in Florida. Huge to open up all least he institutions. In and prisons and threw them all we are here we are accepting them as refugees. That doesn't work. -- somewhere along the line you have to shut up our game plan and those laws have to be upheld. And the fact that some people are casualties. You know he's an unfortunate consequence of the real world. Okay update what's happening you know rolled back on the other side drew more the program and more of your calls. Someone else.