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Fri, 15 Jun 2012|

Along with the Dropkick Murphys and Pogues, Flogging Molly is beloved in Boston for its free-wheeling Celtic punk. But when the Los Angeles-born band played House of Blues on Feb. 21, the members got a harsh reception. Not from the fans. They were wild for the set. That was the problem: The city cited House of Blues for a license violation because slam-dancing broke out during the show. Back for another Blues gig tonight, Molly leader Dave King is still flabbergasted at the trouble. Is this the most outrageous thing you can think of?

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Now I love the city of Boston more than I do as I did decade in New York City and lived in Brooklyn. And I lived in every -- I enable him Brooklyn practically babe rage -- -- gardens but I came home to Boston for a reason because I love it yeah. But it tries to argue with me that Boston is a hick town. Yeah well I believe our party -- I would -- in the face. -- I want. I city now he loved dominate out. But -- respect mr. -- We are anything but a -- city and a -- one of the reasons why. Are you ready for this last night no crystal you know and Flogging Molly to get some of them music. -- -- Flogging Molly as it's great it's a -- going to be a drop kick Murphy. Good Irish -- scout bands. And may -- show at the house of blues last night. Ended their like that the post Flogging Molly. They had this Celtic punk sound I guess it would be -- more appropriate than Scott. In dairy. The show. The end started -- -- -- And guess why. The cops were called. The cops were called because the fans are all wild for the sat. And this city came in incited them. Well apparently one of the seven deadly -- in the city Massachusetts -- stance saying. No can't sing. Modern day if -- lose in this city no dancing so the car into the house of blues last night. In whacked him with a license violation because land dancing broke out during the shout. Don't we just did our talking about legislation. That would find business known as a hundred bucks. If some whacko comes in off the street says I inflammatory. Bowel disease I need to use job back him. I kid you not. This just passed the house a bill that would -- at every private business owner. To let their private that would be used by strangers. In the only claim the stranger estimated that they have. Inflammatory bowel disease. That's eight Flogging Molly cool Celtic punk crowd they come in the house of blues I have no idea and the ticket where does anyone know 617. 2666868. That's 617. 2666868. So people the money to go see Flogging Molly they noted at that point one million drop kick Murphy shows. Kenny -- is a good friend of mine. Love the drop kick Murphy's and to a million shows I thought -- Going an -- -- -- -- box at the house of blues to see the show I don't Steve in the middle of the mosh -- sit in the back I enjoy the show us in the side of the stage and what ever. So in the middle in front of the stage you'll know you might get jostled by -- answers. You probably like it because that's why is standing in the middle front of the stage because you wanna be part of I guess in the nineties. It was the mosh pit. There are new word for that now 6172666868. That's 6172666868. So. Keep us slam dancing. People slammed dancing in the cup and the cops command incite the bar for ill legal. Dancing. If you're old. Molly lead singer Dave king said he was told The Herald was flabbergasted. He said and I quote. I had no idea dancing wasn't allowed. Nobody told me. It was after the show that my wife. -- show me that's somebody posted about an -- we've. What those does not think. Pretty well what does not think you can't and -- -- -- no. This eighty cash check out another club called secure a lounge for allowing I'm not the right dancing by its customers. You see here. To show up please now because how can you press and -- The ending a First Amendment right. Yet he -- the answer is where Occupy Boston I'm showered freak show -- Who are putting on their home little performance art. And then kill. -- station and you are trying to get to work that's protected free speech. 800 bucks to go to the house of blues to see Flogging Molly and you wanna be in the slammed against row in front of the stage. In that club gets a fine. And you wonder why. There's a lot of people who don't think they had. Despite what the air told the Boston Herald this week -- upon -- let's into the there. -- -- -- -- Right. He's all right he has he has body -- to guide has worked for eleven -- -- do you -- to -- -- have to laugh. However. How do you possibly shot a club found that people are dancing. Is -- not free speech six point 72666860. Day. -- have Biden in Boston anymore furious -- fine. Apparently not. Because the house of blues got whacked with a fine and I'm sure the -- going to be crawling with cops tonight. Crown with cops now I just called my friend I'd Joyce who is the mayor's Press Secretary pointed out what is the story here. And she said well it's not really the defense. You have to just. Howell. -- Malone -- I think the most reviled woman in all Boston she's in charge of the clubs and who gets that lightens and who can have a show. But you just have to tell that you want to dance but they did people do. Lie and in every other city in the in this country people can go to Flogging Molly show and slam dance only in Boston. Austin. Our establishments bind because people are dancing. To hear from you on as. Do you think that we are kept. What do you think we are harking back to that Kevin Bacon -- when you couldn't dance now everybody cut footloose. To take down the it -- all there. We need to do we need to -- who would have thought in this town. How picky he did tell me stories about how they have refused to let the drop kick Murphy's played against Serena because dangerous. It. I think. I mean it did train stop at 1 AM this not a single you speak eat after 11 o'clock at night. Lots is a beautiful city I love him. Love that dirty water -- Boston is my home -- not -- folks let's face it 6172666868. That's 617266. 6860. Day. Sex or 50 wait on the and the poll I've luggage checked -- just any cracked up got to get a book just to make me laugh. He had I want you let someone use a -- if you refusal at the news about him and they start dancing around because they have to go. Well you then get a ton of buying and it didn't think buying. So I'm leaning on XP Italy -- -- Combat -- has won himself a -- I think Charlie. Why kiwi cans in Boston. Well when -- wanted to -- something IE. I'm kind of looked -- I I think if anyone thinks of Flogging Molly was -- -- -- they kept. A little behind in the times -- one. I mean it's basically good you know going into a drunken bar and slam dancing but I've been back under the rock concerts in my life of all different -- Fusion and regular rocket -- else. And none of my -- the right ever in -- and that kind of stuff. Number one so I think the level of sophistication -- and one of the -- to pay them -- a question it's sanity number one number till. Why didn't you know I can't expect everything to us. Some people would have gotten hurt at different times. And if that's -- the city -- an ordinance came to it that's final mile the City Council candidate but the point -- the -- that I was working for the city almost twentieth when Kevin White with him as well. I know a little bit about the -- the city works but that's one thing the other thing he has. I'm working on my fourth cancer right now at -- and a -- but look at but 35 years ago when I was -- law school. I got hit with inflammatory bowel disease of the variation of that and I went through about ten years of -- attacked -- there are people there who do have definitive problems. And I'm sure there are other people that scam but I understand you're you talked about this from the past your past life but displayed in the Boston. And the -- from probably. You know I really hate the player I know that you've written some books but I really don't have a lot of respect for you okay sorry. Sponsor. Italian so so I don't respect me. I'm so sorry I don't respect we Charlie where you are you Harken back to the Kevin White gays. Twentieth of the modified -- I don't think I'm gonna lose too much label but whether or not you respect me. I great viewing at Kansas situation -- gimme a break. I so you know. Flogging Molly is I only know that they have Celtic punk roots just like the drop kick Murphy's. But I know if I went to the show and I wanted to slam dance but a bunch of others bloody idiots I should be allowed to because it's free speech. You -- agree with -- this but this argument is really about free speech shouldn't we have their right to sway our -- to music if we want to. And what happened if they told those Occupy Boston on -- freaks. That they couldn't engage in their performance are at south station there would be want suits. -- Bostick and where of buying out the blows it's pretty. Rich you are next with Michelle McPhee. -- -- -- -- I -- it. I write the senate back Eric goes back Kevin White out it's such completely. Okay it's not attacked with music which can beat out -- -- -- okay. And contradictory as well by the 23 year old son who. Is out of his mind because they could go. And it they went to. The house blows and they were allowed to connect that he went with his friends they weren't allowed just like they -- allowed to enhance it on the mosh pit. As get this had been an incident and I will say it's they had they have been people are. But not to the extent -- where they come in and tell you now you can't do this and I -- My feeling -- into the -- agent that's under an Occupy Boston to get into youth in my eyes water and from the stance. Right doesn't -- And well -- -- -- applicable -- I it was a commercial truck or two years at an all over the country and -- the -- something. We are so puritanical it's still unbelievable you'll leave you leave this area are two totally different world. And I mean you know you know things are open all right you can get what you need to party -- whatever you can make you -- all individual choices and the unfortunate matter is that we have a mayor who's been in office to want. He's got attached no matter how like he takes lots and has not eighty. What's it was a joke when you compare to all the other major cities and you compare it to it's like you know. Chicago allegiance. Should cities like. You know New York City and stuff like that still they roll up the sidewalks at 1230 at night. I mean it's it's it's ridiculous. It -- Andy -- I. Lamenting that battle days of the combat -- when radar aren't you think it's funny that it. I'd downtown Boston strip public -- the only one left at the last clipper. Glad and come back with a little that Oprah like it's available the -- at all. It's not just giant I could be shut down because -- stripper gave a -- in the 300 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I believe I believe that I mean they want to regulate and not since it with the drinks that aren't what they do the one we Beers and the -- When -- suspect. And I this -- irritable. To. Apply the issue whether to tell me. It's a privacy issue Italian expected. If people -- type one diabetes dementia it insolent -- just sit back and next thing that's gonna and the like into flight the issue to. Discriminate against people and you know what this morning at places children go to the at bat they have access to batons and play that. My sister -- actual business systems and -- -- and bought a new one out why one street. The one and how we had full access to app from the other one it was not open up to type something pop out to its harsh. -- that's not going you know all the most and I asked -- Women are winning -- grows that disgusting. That's what people do what most homes and what we had a clean up on a daily basis but what people would do -- -- it's up and unfortunately ashore at times but women worst moment. I put it to read it right back you up and that's it in 100%. So into the -- but the Texas Tech rich if you're a business guy and somebody comes in and dances ESC is about Iran. A private abdomen and Charlie's disease right. Tech tonight 78 said that Charlie should be wearing an adult briefed maybe Q where and how why eighties line -- But oh yeah did you find the not the person news about the media find somebody dancing in plates. Yeah but you know. -- there. And everything. Communicable diseases -- a transitional diseases. And that person comes in from not to get close they actually. Okay and that's -- common thing you know it. You know it it war. I don't just went to the general approach and -- -- wanted to simulate one you know it's that they sit down I was federal debt but she got. That's OK let me tell you it's discussing it goes too far it's great he -- -- him. And don't look at it from that standpoint all want. That person like you about a bad implications but thank you. -- air air the Statehouse how dare they -- tell you. The US open your private bathroom he had yet employees' kids if the only uses I don't care they get a break thank you -- for the -- -- it's just it's saying it. You know I agree there has been walking around -- says. So they don't -- thumbs coping in front of everyone on park street they -- on me to saying heroin -- EDT cards every illegal alien but slam dancing is going too far Tom. Too far you're out the -- feet right ahead. I haven't. Our own children -- Virginia yes and they just built than anyone. At the boat so I'll kind -- forget what those. -- permit to allow it's it's not just. That is crazy time anyway it's going not I don't think hinting protected free speech. It's crazy but. And you know -- to -- they get those arm that's what it's called. -- put -- permit our appropriate. I need to fight against time I began to rang out front and it's been a -- that he child. -- on the -- -- my healed up like what was Kevin -- girlfriend's name and that will be. I mean I did Kevin Bacon hang out but nonetheless it it's just so silly. It's. It's hard to open a business into run a business here and I sat down a friend of mine who -- to buy into restaurants and clubs and you just say he. I've heard Sony stories about the woman from the licensing board in Boston -- Malone. I'm honestly I think ocean's most -- woman in Boston because of all of the regulations and restrictions if you actually get a permit to have Flogging Molly place. Then you get -- find -- -- I'm this is how people to make money here at 6172666868. Panasonic. Is dancing protected free speech. It isn't cities that I have we have I don't know what's up DO six 72666. It's -- day on the job entry. -- I'm back Bosnia and it CN being protected free speech I'm not a big slam dancing because this going to be in on CNN Boston on slam dancing. Any aren't in the city. And ghostly ambiance. Wanna be you know what is not the slamming part of dancing at the sweaty bodies part it's nasty does -- I can't stand on other people's gross way. Tripping on you I mean a mosh pit anytime soon. -- toolkit want to spend a hundred bucks and goes to show and slam dance I don't care. It's pretty cocky get hurt why can't people go to a show. In in getting into the mosh pit Steve what do you think Iran with Michelle my feet. Hi Steve. Do we have Steve. We lost Dave and that's the bigger person six point 72666868. That's 6172666868. They are trying to be an mosh pit they find a house of blues last night because Flogging Molly fans where dancing furiously. My buddy Jackie gave an had to lay off employees at his downtown nightclub because it kept getting cited the dancing. Mike what do you think you are next with Michelle McKinney. I'm so you know what the body are really good about it insult people that. Both wet and nothing nothing really happened and will be able but -- The whole thing about -- I mean -- did what if you go to LA you go to the Yeltsin West Roxbury for a wedding and people start dancing. Did they get -- did they get a permit for that dancing. I'll at a price of went like about him but -- arms and are you content there and got a little. Now I don't. Well it's a private cloud at the house of -- begin the period. That result you want peninsula about wrong. -- being -- alternate -- invited program on the outside but back. Yeah exactly what his new what is -- Aggies. I I it's crazy so Texas ebony wine on the pole I mortgage -- science X 8680 said. So will they now find the street performers who dance right in front of City Hall plaza -- funeral hall -- days. Those guys don't have permits they don't pay taxes why aren't they didn't find Tonya are next with masonic -- already had John. I I used to own a club embarked for three years. And it's all about money you have to have a chance ice. Come -- -- like this time yet to have a license for every -- being you have to have a license for every -- -- all about -- Now I -- time that they opening new yard house -- the way I love the art house but the opening knowing in can was -- -- -- And they have this great outdoor space and I honestly is awesome. But they now drinks I don't care if it doesn't affect me this rule. But -- is a giant signs on the says. You must order food but drinks by Boston law and I will. -- -- just what I have appearance at the decal you have to order food with a beer newest speed -- In any state is gone too far. A lot of places require that. It because they can upload license they're really a registrar. And the electorate is there is a sort of an ad arm. So -- picture not just a liquor and less healthful living. It's time and ridiculous is that the is that they electorate -- -- requirements they got up. -- I got out of the business. -- just say now do you think it's and now we knew we heard callers say has -- had some problems in Virginia Beach. But I really do think that this is Massachusetts because our rules are so archaic. Interventions that rule it goes back way back Joseph Kevin White states Asia earlier called. -- -- You probably wrote the -- tally now. And yet it carpet get need to do -- -- give -- a little too what do they call that TMI too much information. Anything getting back to the Kevin White days and you say and see this is why we need that. Don't think it's time we need to update the rules a little bit on especially that guy like you is getting out of the business which means how many people. When you checked on a business how many people are out of a job. -- So yeah day in -- jobs report the ridiculous in -- job to put the state has -- -- -- it would make you sick on. They don't like. It's hard to find jobs to study and report to Tipton three years to built it's hard to find jobs US hard to find jobs because guys like you wanna open a club and -- waitresses to work. And have people making tip money and and pack the place and in need to put out to be able to work today and now you shut down that's a hundred people who now have to find another job somewhere and it's not that he did these days. Now the regulations get sharper and sharper here aren't you being so are people going out getting in or accident just it's just true -- So we're about. So it's not -- there which means that you will it's shut down plays and put -- of people out of work art. While Todd thanks Sharon next parent it's not the first time I've heard it Robbie I next what Michelle Mickey -- and rob. I'm Sharia I era. I'm all right and I think you something wrong about the dancing thing I've got to. You know in the concerts and have been it's a recently down without some loose and they -- you -- all you want I was down America -- media not long ago fantastic search everybody was dancing have a group a great time. I think what you're missing is the distinction between this slam dancing thing and jets dancing like normal people these people down their slam dancing for in this stage. They have so little interest in the music whatsoever I mean the real solution -- Put them back I don't wanna -- sixty bucks negotiate concert and -- to stand in the back and less so on web front it killed. It's it's pretty violent stuff I mean I'm older but still it's. It's not dancing like you're describing your -- it's not First Amendment dancing it's a bunch of drunk guy it's. Shoving and pushing and swearing at each other and there's there's a big difference there and I think I think house of -- notes that differences. Yeah. That's how it goes both prevent that from happening I mean like you said. They have all these regulations about comment who's concerned individuals just heard on talk about it I mean how possibly in my cousin is. And I felt like they did prevented that brought the cops and I was there -- -- early and -- -- -- They didn't really energetically so that the house of blues should be cited for -- -- -- our own. -- -- saying that the concerts that I've been -- their people are dancing like crazy and having fun but they're not slam dance and then busting each other's -- and I mean they're not. They're they're not causing damage to other people. So I think they did exactly what you're suggesting they need to draw that line it sounds like they did draw that line I've been Eric concerts and people are having a blast -- Dancing and end in ways that are hurting other people and there's no problem no cops are called they're not thanks so. The date they've drawn a line that you're not drawing it out think when you say -- shouldn't. People be eleven it's pretty slow prob don't you think sure well this every -- because I don't -- as we can't think has not protected speech. And I don't LA kids come on. I've been allowed concerts and that a lot of dancing in the front and the back and outside there's a really easy line to -- When people are just out there are hurting each other and when they're there against the music the slam dancing that you're describing is not. Dancing to music it's just going to a venue that. That's your opinion job. That's your opinion and I mean I guess some people would argue that's your opinion that it's not dancing to -- begins chanting of course not gonna front I don't like sweat on -- -- I'm not gonna be in the middle of that mess anyhow. However to those kids who like this music to form of expression so I was on the order of expression that you support it's not one that I support. But it's one that they support they made the choice to going there indeed engaged in this expression so why is that unprotected but he's smelly freak shows -- Occupy Boston naked. Literally urinate all over the sidewalk -- the very expensive grass that the tax is paid for and doing no sanctions imposed upon them at all. Not I I am I getting into that other argument with youngest saying that there's -- -- a really clear distinction between dancing -- -- that people are doing to music. And when people are out there hurting each other and that's really easy to see really it's just. I love -- and allow other. -- one of those parents in the fifties who. Who said hey you know that that dancing we did. In the fifties with perfectly normal but -- but this terrible -- began -- in the sixties it's god awful -- that's just so I. Now I'm not saying that it all I'm talking about physical came up documents injuring other people that's that this. And on -- or ID and you don't even dirty dancing you could say why -- injured when Patrick Swayze is what Decker a lot of his odds of what she thought I had. You could say that I'm not saying that I think I've said enough and -- I tried to it's my argument around it's not what I'm saying at all I'm just think. I'm using the Internet and other protected free speech thank you rob for the call Mike I next what Michelle McKee go right ahead rob. I'm sorry Mike sorry go right at night. -- -- -- Out on the -- And what's supposed to -- footloose movie. Job. I can't remember -- edited by -- to City Hall right now. Going to be about that's one of them as well I think you might be right -- to -- at Boston. But quite a bit wet and and that it would throughout I don't know but there have been and then next thing you know it happened -- -- out -- -- You're going to be in -- Well I think Mike if I'm gonna suggest that that the shootings that result from the hip hop music that's playing some of the downtown clubs on. Certain -- As a lot more perilous than slam dancing at the house of blues would you agree. When you haven't -- flying on the dance Florence and clubs I think that -- alligators with a hip hop crowd. Then you slam dancing -- flogging Molly's. Now question recently spoke about not these Yahoo!'s bump into each other accountable. I mean cameras might you know like the Texas said Toms right slam dancing should be banned you're being ridiculous and has -- Michelle slamming hurts other people. Well I -- if Patrick Swayze drops that girl and Jennifer Graham head. Up they -- if you're -- argue Eric Eric don't know Flogging -- show don't go or stay in the back of the but. And how close is such a great place to see a concert you can see -- in a million different locations and in enjoy the show. In in the same way that the donkeys who was planned dancing are in the front of the stage. But this girl was Jennifer -- got it I got it right the last minute but it quickly go to John and then we're gonna come back with Ryan fat and our new state -- who's dead weighing on Barack Obama is new misty. Four young immigrants some of them and didn't even know they weren't here illegally give me a break this -- -- that we come back quickly Jun -- John McPhee. And the -- -- hi. Good Arctic up by the double that -- get it if it's what does somebody what it's severely hurt. And you know and I have a situation what would you you know what what -- -- -- that. Anyway I -- I -- guys where I relieving themselves on the sidewalk and I walked by and slip and -- eyewitness tells station. Then why John and not that's what I ask on the job McPhee EI am six AW -- 6172666866. Point seven. 2666868. We can back. Every San Bryant -- name and you are response. To Barack Obama is new edicts. That all of the young immigrants can stay where he's sleeping in a press conference any minute. We're gonna have my producer Chris articles and quotes from that press conference. And we'll be back with you with Ryan and in the president's remarked.