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Fri, 15 Jun 2012|

A proposed law that would force Massachusetts retailers to open their private bathrooms to sufferers of inflammatory bowel diseases and fine them $100 if they don’t is causing a major stink. “Why single out only retailers?” Retailers Association of Massachusetts President Jon Hurst told the Herald. “Why not banks, why not office buildings, why not government buildings? I walk into the State House and see a lot of locked bathrooms. Should this be allowed to happen to private businesses?

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That would force any private store in Massachusetts. To let customers to use their private bathrooms. You read the sentence and I'm reading from Donna Edison's. Piece in the Boston Herald -- You just have to laugh. A proposal. That would force Massachusetts retailers to open a private bathrooms two sufferers of inflammatory bowel diseases and spying and a hundred dollars if they don't as causing a major stake I. Come -- so why you're telling me as at Beacon Hill lawmakers think it's a good idea to force. Private business owners. Terry let anybody use their back and if they claim to separate from inflammatory. Bowel disease. Can you imagine six point 72666868. I hear from business owners. Who are hearing this for the first time you might be forced if you wanna have a jewelry shop in somebody walks in. Holden at crotch insane I have inflammatory bowel disease -- -- -- -- bathroom unarmed assume in agony get a fine of a hundred dollars. The most obscene thing you had ever heard. So other retailers association of Massachusetts. Is -- Why not banks might not office buildings are not government buildings. Any online U Washington State held that a lot of lot bathrooms. Yet this represented at an actress you talk to the representative from stone and Lewis Kafka of -- You talking today we invited him on the show and explain why he. Filed elect will call it. The will be piceance lie and that you guys have a better. Name par at 6172666868. That's 6172666868. If get a battle that name part because -- remains. Could be peninsula. We call all Louis -- he's a Democrat from -- and he filed the bill. Which I you ready this has been approved by the house. This still has been approved by the house. And what that means that anyone can walking to a store and say I have inflammatory bowel disease in let me use a private bathroom. There are a private storage should they be forced to let any low -- use their bathroom. And how possibly get approved. That someone is suffering from it on mentioned. Ailment inflammatory bowel disease 6172666868. And what are you hearing mean I mean we can't -- still -- what do you think you are out atomic be welcomed. I don't have a name for you but I'll tell you the old brain LB what they have got it might be accurate and lacks the legislature. That was on -- got to come clean my damn bad prepare the way it. I want what opposed many years I -- -- And any statement by half an hour or what was still in the area and place -- -- when he came out and at that nobody owes him out. -- -- -- -- -- -- Things do business you won't. -- happen to be an entirely and and people common dollar don't think they've got a limited the job. Now are because any -- that some street level it's a knock on your door all apart -- the YouTube -- from. Absolutely not nobody is common and because. It's just it's it's not it's it's taking the property for public purpose without just compensation if they want my bathroom they have to pay for it. It's why should be allowed to come and drop the bombing -- bowl. Not -- credit that they you know property for public purpose and it required compensation as they want. Take my adapter in republic -- -- -- That's an interesting now you're a lawyer Stuart how is it possible. Now and speak to the stupidity. -- these. Idiots in the house have passed this but we can't -- EDT reform. Well that's because that would really matter. And it would really help balance the budget and it would be an intelligent thing to these people have too much time on and. That govern -- not set up the -- All I'm legislators there a year being -- popping up that they'll never been out -- real world. We need to return to find what we have lawmaker that leave. And then somebody else goes to enact. Now what you write the -- -- backed me up is he actually spoke to the state rep who filed the slot which has been approved by the house that absolutely staggering. Lewis capped he's a Democrat from stone and shockingly. And whenever I need you guys have 6172666868. Spec for right now they gonna say the apple began to law those calf got. -- -- -- -- -- I guess you say Stuart I asked -- -- on the show and try to explain to us why he thought that people like you should be forced to have to let. Any dirt bag off the street use your background. Drop a bomb in your ball. And he's not available to come on the show because he's spending time of the Stanley excuse me state representative I thought it was a Friday night. I mean in most private circles Friday that workdays in I'm so sorry I would like ticking away from your family on a Friday. Teens are questions about some nonsense bill that you filed in a prop eight passed that's -- -- you -- to find a hundred dollars if you don't let -- use that term. Is -- not crazy story. They lost your let's go to market our next mark with Michelle McPhee go right ahead. So we need to elevate our video little -- bill like the British holiday. A little. On -- but one congressman. We called the the real deal. -- I'm gonna like that I -- -- a load up on open I'll pay an extra garlic on the YouTube opera. Exactly like I tell you want his Keating his private -- the dazzling. You know -- deported. -- and curable wallpaper rockets from me at Taco Bell night for mutual changed my. Think about that's it now I like best text or 978. On a poll -- mortgage just timer to succeed it's XAD he says how about the back door bill. -- -- serious thing you can force you can forced business owners to have to open and bathrooms to perfect strangers. So the bigger question is how are you going to enforce that how you going to be able to prove that someone indeed suffers from inflammatory bowel disease and pick Elizabeth Smart. The writing legislation. That would force Massachusetts retailers to open their private bathrooms to stoppers only have inflammatory bowel diseases and buying them a hundred bucks that they don't. -- think of these things personal and secondly how can you possibly prove. People -- now -- around those like Lance Armstrong bracelet I suffered from inflammatory bowel disease. Well every single member of congress well. I would unbelievable mark isn't it. It's it's. It -- what I think that nobody but I kept looking at state that that they can think I'll go. And stocky telling my producer that he can't come on the show because he's busy -- this family. He does have a good sense a lie and pretend that he's working. Do you like that body is part of the whole story Chris tell us what the are represented have told you. When he called back spent time with his family today. Announced Friday. He had to spend time of the Stanley -- usually -- excuse me they could make a phone call the tight too. Yeah -- convince retailers doing to be forced to let perfect strangers. I have squatters rights which text or 921 came up -- which is beautiful mark you're having aim bars for the bill. The PPD expelled. The distressed bill David I Christian -- giveaway. But to -- opens up with the best name for this law. As they all have names I mean most of the names that are serious like Jessica's -- and Melissa's law. Have a lot for the Lewis -- there. He's a Democrat from -- and he couldn't join us today because oh so sorry representative he spending time of the Stanley. I guess I would too old and has gorgeous Friday if I didn't have to show up a black Christmas just -- -- a -- the only if you didn't have to show up the work. Yes I want unbelievable so does then. A copy whatever book you want out of the five -- Britain signed copy. But the best name of the -- 6172666868. Steve the lawyers said they should be wearing -- instead. Exactly because it's not it does it if you own a store. Are you gonna open you bathroom you can approach. Test to herald. And did you Donna -- Briscoe was just fabulous woman from the not that and I try caller during the break to -- shall join us. And got a prince goes like what are you kidding you diamonds in her place I didn't. So I OKM to go on the back of the diamond store and use the bathroom. No I can't a white and women -- bowel disease. I'm gonna -- you. Paul what do you think you're out Michelle McCain. I EDS -- guy -- into the house resolution number two. After all I love it I not to right -- when -- house resolution number two I mean stupid as a stop all. I -- how ridiculous is this. Already very ridiculous yes yes a. A public figure I like how are I don't I'll house resolution number -- elect Chris picked the winner. At the top of the hour I -- Michelle -- we -- and sixty WRK out. I mean. Should we call this bill that's gonna force you if you own a store to let anybody use to back down. If they can prove they suffer from inflammatory bowel disease. Chris is that kind of the toilet. Songs other and that and 06172666868. The -- bill. The John crap irbil. You'll need -- Pope begins to show store owners what do you think this is ridiculous this is how yellow make -- -- spending their time on the Johnny B we are and succeeded -- New -- -- Welcome back classic and hit it does not repeat we are and six data heavy dark hair out yesterday acknowledges that. This say it. Has passed legislation. That would restrict the use of -- beds to teens. That was right on my priority list. Not about the illegals getting amnesty by the EDT cards while the criminals that you can't stand out we can't pass those pieces of legislation. Now out the house just passed are you ready for this. A bill that would force Massachusetts stores to letting when he is -- bathroom if they have inflammatory bowel diseases gimme a break. So all things which you call that house resolution number two. I was calling -- the cookie piceance law that gold you don't own bill. The sum up the best team this legislation that'll add names and autographed copy of whatever book of the five that you want. Jim guy next -- lead this. Michelle Leo hi -- -- after another ridiculous plot by the -- legislature no question about it and what asking him. Thank alas don't command in. Didn't look back someone else's story retail store and -- come -- commit robbery or assault from the employees not thinking about the you know safety issues. Well and they they did make some concessions jam in the bill they said. It's been tweaked to address some of the reach those concerns. It applies only to stores with -- -- to people working. So cast registers aren't left on -- and how big of them. And also absolves retailers from liabilities I get you can't say oh. I think of him while giving their name it -- came from when we caught Lewis talk appeal -- -- just -- it. And let them let him get his name and recognition you want to name recognition I think that's an happened pro name and. Jim arrogant is it that this guy told my producer I can't come on the show and explain myself because I'm spending time with my family. I know you are yeah cool wouldn't and is beautiful Friday the bill that you streaming the show premier office. What do you like to be home right now on Friday. I get paid either way I'm gonna check to see you put in for his party and his in his tracks are. -- dime and that's why people and it was constituency in his area are realizes quite stupid people shouldn't vote in. Should not reelect him again. A little whisper rock have been all -- here on the list with a -- Packard bell are gonna have Chris my producer picked the winner at the top of the hour -- crazy. -- -- 508 said we have the bottle bill now the bottle bill Kelly what do you think you are next with Michelle McVeigh. -- I can't camera Kelly -- you are it's US bonds folks now west Bob. 6172666868. That's 6172666868. To own a store. It's -- have I have friends who -- trying to open a little sandwich shop on some mystery needs the it still closed violate two years later in the city told them they had -- -- -- handicapped bathroom not the Dow they had six seats -- it acute united tiny little place. They -- -- he can't that's him for the customers and I he handicap at him for the employees. In need -- it's gonna be my friend. And his boyfriend so the par are the gonna run the plays it the only people letting me in the stored -- a mechanic about the fun and even. It makes you crazy. -- next what Michelle McPhee what do you think again. They -- and they've taken my club. Maybe you can they have this building that call at Pacific gas built. I mean hits and do you have a store right. I don't think I'm an old lady now when I'm -- and I did everything that's going on. Maybe they can be -- more. I mean you know I wish every public -- image in the entire city of Boston I know every Starbucks every every. Place that has a public bathroom -- dream. Of going into a depressed goes Jewelers and saying hey. I've inflammatory bowel disease -- about the right -- -- be subjected to a hundred dollar fine. Thanks to representative Lewis Tosca. Still wouldn't. Who by the way couldn't join us because he's busy spending and a Stanley and has beautiful. Sunny summer afternoon and. But that and I can't thank you Ed I about -- guy next -- Michelle -- Now hi Barbara. I. Beck and the radio that you say you -- it's nice to be back in cabinet can I mean I'm already outraged Abra. I know I'm -- another reason not to have a business in Massachusetts. It's it's making it. Completely unbearable to operate in the states so. Mean I have relatives that -- colitis and they believe that they know army back in the air. They -- it -- -- -- arrange its quarterly you don't have to have a lot. That makes it mandatory that equates to open itself up. Doesn't this suggest that these guys have a little bit too much time on hand at the Statehouse and currently the only thing that. Should be. -- Not the edible and someone drops a bomb. I think names -- I think it should be cut the crap -- the crap rebel I like it I like it now and Eric C tells me to be to have got pac -- Like I went to ever. Why am so obsessed with this but I you insulted that the state -- actually was so breathe in about his well I don't have to -- to work on Friday. That you have at least had the courtesy to lie. To the producer -- courage to come -- -- better -- exactly -- -- out of my family and guess what I wish I develop my -- right now. -- note -- portable -- and -- enjoying the sunshine. I think -- thank you Barbara Kathy you are decked with Michelle McPhee. You ready because I'm Kathy from text. I am ready I have been back in what area we can't we can't read aren't EDT what -- I BB. And we met in private sector wouldn't. -- -- -- I'm a true. I'm not happened like a little like trying to get them -- many to. Pretend box and number I don't want it well. I like. EB -- EBP card anyway could it working in the private sector according people who have and how. I. Don't need to -- you know. This really help downtown crossing invite into new businesses when the bombs. Can -- what's big business owners to let them use their private bathrooms. Can't at least in the private sector include. Contributing. Can get -- to -- for -- target for the community. I mean I think I -- -- You could make me like I'm really crappy brown color. Let's say ID. The heat sufferers of inflammatory bowel syndrome why do you use that private store owner is back from their throne they just have to flash dad. Kathy bracelets the ID. And could be. The problem. We don't -- -- -- -- know but. You know like ninety none of the old scratch and sneak. Very business. Like scratching desperate. Can't thank you. Thank you get it has made me -- just did did. It's so funny -- -- to cry. Calvin -- think we should we should not sign Lewis -- -- door and see if Hillary is using his pride about them at the Statehouse idiotic shows up their Calvin that's the bigger problem. Like -- agree with the but I think -- -- caught a one and troop movement. You are on the list job and that's pretty good. Why you know I think there -- -- Out thanks it's nice to be back I mean -- ways that I yesterday was talking about how they passed legislation. To regulate tanning beds boo -- Teach I would I. And help you out there were dependent. I'll never had an interest in the by. Well I live I know I shore account and so holder Tim dads are part of life. I want to -- rose -- Asia. Hey duke out of panic the one in two movement until like Paul's house resolution number two. Kevin you are next with Michelle -- speak -- in -- -- can -- How I haven't. -- opposition joke. What was that. Well positioned -- That's a good one plucked an addition to any magic and walking into a guy stewards in -- in the bathroom. Before cause damage to distrust in the slot I mean earlier -- we're trying to -- eleven -- -- -- -- -- purpose. Although I haven't aggravation on that. It's somebody can and you own a business have with the public and lock into -- I mean really usually biracial I mean just it. -- -- I don't -- into like let's say you know. I needed to use about the main emergency and I walked into a restaurant I always buys something. Right actually a -- on -- charge of the Golan. Do your bit at least buy a copy so that young. I would never I mean I would never lacking in and walked out empty handed I was gonna you know take advantage of the opposition. I like kick out another great mind you like opposition Chris. Okay energetic -- we are AM six CD WRKO 6172666868. And we have some thoughts on the Lewis cock Abigail. This is a bill that weren't quite as private store owners to open in bathrooms to -- firms. IE FD. Can't reform EDT but we can protect IFT sufferers. I'm John McPhee and we -- WRKO. Lots of fact five and we have the -- -- grown. Cannot get an -- on -- fee we are AM fixated on Iraq Mayo and that's unbelievable. What they can come up -- I'm speaking now I'll lawmakers who are making up what's 200 Randy you're the best. There is now proposal on that just passed the house that would force Massachusetts retailers to open net private bathrooms. To sufferers and inflammatory bowel disease. And how we possibly identify somebody is indeed a sufferer and inflammatory bowel disease. In fine them 100 dollars if they don't. Well needless to say it's causing a major state. So you know all of this ridiculous legislation and some of the good legislation that passes which is ridiculous. Yeah the name. On -- -- who leaked the name and and I told all of you that the winner would get whatever copy. Whichever book they want signed mailed to them as a winner Chris is gonna pick the winner some of my favorites right now while Lewis pack up. And that of course is in honor of the author of the legislation. Representative -- have to of stone who told my producer today couldn't come on don't explain the bill because he was busy with his family. Oh sorry. We just thought it was a work day in all sorry -- what do you figure out the stomach he welcomed. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I. It they can -- the separate from inflammatory bowel disease in your right you Carly it's up on taxes the Iraq -- Ethnic about it what you. Do we apple Australia Asia glaucoma also. I -- that's a very good question you on this up banging on my neighbor's door I know there is -- bang on my -- No I did do -- is talk to the ice cream truck guy who terrorized -- see every day but -- Iraq. Then again he doesn't have a bathroom because he has a sex offense arrest the stepping out of the ice cream truck into using the sidewalk. Wait for the program that's there. -- it Lebanon and the people in kind of get no pun intended but -- -- call at all. It and that was an. Asset relief program. I'd like it it's like Steve the boy came up with Pope public option ominous omnibus package -- I mean at this is just hasn't seen thing that you have ever heard they keep it all out. Sorry didn't crocodile and we do in different always have to deal let. And -- meanwhile jammed it three strikes trial blah. -- prevent savages like Dominic -- sentenced to three life sentences -- get out and killed Jack McGuire the Woburn police officer. We can't -- -- EBT point on I you -- shop and he spots and yes him at the TJ Maxx home goods to a buy new bathroom rug. And -- and part of me is paying for her daughter at her -- cotton sheets. With -- EDT card. You can bunny EBT card at the TJ Maxx home goods is astonishing. That you just paint the Dakar I and a 100% cotton sheets. It's crazy we can't -- EDT -- On the we can be as Kathy very brilliantly stated the IDF. Problem I BD and terrible numbers and letters I BD to get a bracelets made -- David what do you think you are next with my stomach for a. Well -- legitimate home -- That's also why -- that's format by the way it went up in price to. B card swipes. Yeah exactly. But I it's gonna say I'm an entrepreneur and a make a lot of money this bill passes printing up that's a lot of orders times. That's a very good idea David -- in order to break. It. That you can make a fortune you should have them all laminated counted on a copy operate now while I don't like he did the idea. How supposed to prove that you have inflammatory bowel disease that would force you to go into someone's private school or. And let private. Business of any sort and use the back. Got a way to I have -- world but you know look this is the best we improve this so my friend has to be changing what to do. School yesterday. And he had -- a bit when he got there he got stuck in traffic on the way and got injured -- the baton so bad it was like almost you know coming out -- At the front door superintendent of school and an adamant to give a policy -- its menus for. And he went to the bathroom right it's on the he went it did drop one right in there and the guy -- the president to do he called. Columnists aren't bosses and I don't want to look back here anymore. The nerve of him and Durbin and I mean how dare you. And stated I mean I don't -- signs. You know audible and a the legislature that I get over the fact. I don't of the fact that -- -- -- -- -- -- sorry I can't come on the show and spending time at IBM and -- -- Friday afternoon did -- have like a little thing is surprisingly told that. I didn't realize that in check my packed calendar NC family day on the schedule. Very good point. Julio is they're happy holiday today that I wasn't aware of I guess every day the -- holiday if you're a hack -- legislation. That would whack a hardworking business owner as it is not hard enough to open a business in Massachusetts. Now you have to let someone drop reducing that's coming get a founding. -- you annex with Michelle -- Act as larger and have a lot of older and -- hopeful. I I was beautiful. Get a leg up a lot of a lot -- it really. You it's my. I -- that maturity a lawyer. I have no idea what it -- you know he's busy right now he's not Eric. I cannot Chris rock and see what a story is the -- written in house it team up there on climate Mike Broderick who wrote the -- law you know about I don't know what. It's a hard bill that he needs I mean wouldn't he do what. -- -- -- -- -- -- Actually catapulted from -- sent -- -- but he legislation. That would unionized homing -- It's past unbeaten -- it's homing pigeons. The inflammatory inflammatory. Line banks like. It's packed that. The winds will be like opposition. The opposition two and a half. That's. Right. These are greatly. I enjoy most into your curb medical structural but I do whatever business. Now -- bathrooms are on the second floor. -- -- -- -- -- -- It's important amnesty or article. I mean I would get together and -- handy that would be you. The operation -- racial. And that's of the located not in the part of the store that's accessible to the public which mean do it might have stock up there. Documents -- I mean and what just does -- allow people to rummage through any area the are private sword and pry it would not talk about government buildings closed by talking about. -- -- pageant answer. That there is there's also liability in alt -- and actually not a going to be knocking on my outdoor. While they quit I mean I I'd write up a portion of my apartment my locked as a home office because they're right on my books that. Today I mean they can -- show -- my -- It is -- -- -- Take. A -- to be a business -- Massachusetts as it is very Iran have been able. They change every -- regulations. On regulation. You -- criminal background check and you employee out thanks to but the legislation did last year is that correct and right here. So you so some low life can walk into -- store be convicted killer like Dominique -- End. You'd you have no right to do -- back contacted picked tech the rest of your employees who might be a very own daughter you have no right. -- make sure that this guy isn't some sort of rapists to murder out on parole. Everybody rich except for me. And that's thing I think that's what people are missing and that's argument is that the business owner and believe me I know fuel on. I mean you know Anita handicap at me don't you need one the the customer want the employees -- -- -- on and on a list of how difficult it is. And is this just the icing on the cake feel. I am sorry didn't get I set out what kind of businesses that are are what this. People rummaging around a private -- So look in north. It's crazy like this. Oreo. Imagine boarded up and after these people. Can you imagine -- It's outrageous and in too bad that the state -- a lot that the bill. People on -- with -- -- is name is Louis cop cop a stone that is really an unfortunate name. If it did back from bill like this one. They do need is Tosca that is quite unfortunate. The first serendipity -- Bob I think -- on the job he welcomed. Additional. I am Bob the I just think about last year we had that nightmare with the -- -- a Wall Street and all those people in this when in their trash doubles that the lord all their -- last year. Your health station there was a florist that I know from Lambert -- a great little you know. -- -- -- They couldn't use the bathrooms that I need to interview for channel five some of these Occupy Boston protesters in the -- It was disgusting in their body it was not fit the human beings in the south station bathroom. Tip your forest welcome to Boston the bathrooms smell like -- house. When the animals have been BN in three years ago. Exactly and it it's just we're gonna happen does this and become an in the air and the like you said in Iraq and know what they are going to be it'll Stanley. -- in these drugs you can have you also the bathrooms and every other thing. Now it's I think about the this this. State -- how funny the Bob that the state rep told us he -- -- on the -- because he was busy on the summer Sunday summer excuse me Friday when his family. But this state -- you'd think OK this guy the donkey. This is right -- -- of the donkey but it passed the legislation passed through the house to the hundreds of people who are in the house thought this was a good idea. What is that -- legislature. All happen if you walked into the bathroom and I was really messy and eat and used war and then you're gonna get on the swearing on top of that. Or -- borrow and it's a short -- you -- particularly stink about them and you go it's like lead and yeah Maggette had twenty dollar fine. You have to use someone's private stinky bathroom. I'll like -- Bob. And saint. Massachusetts. Is a true statement. If you say it's expelled and you might get the twenty dollar fine -- an -- Tonya are next with Michelle and I. You know all up there and miniatures and we have our great model it was -- guys were -- immutable version of batters -- -- foreign. The bill. I don't -- -- fine. It's unbelievable and a time to think could walk into the Statehouse walk into Louis -- is office and say I want you to about them. Of course not they get that they go to Obama's there always -- report you can use mark. And believe me according to not press conferences at the Statehouse to note that both bathrooms locked time and you need -- heat and them. And we're writing and I would have to find somebody who actually likes me like in the selling its Eric and I used about and he. So it's just walked into the Statehouse and that you want. Don't know what they're gonna do with -- -- yeah -- quality visits is gonna have to make. Spot from changed after accessible to because you're gonna forward to what is it -- against their people of this in the bill that things don't go there. Is that. Other they have the force they Marty for taking. Or the Tibetans in -- accessible for for pride about America all the rest. Time I told the story many times I'm just anarchy engage in is that. My neighbors have been trying to open a sandwich shop the three years and so on the street East Boston believe me -- in dire need of great little businesses like that beastie. It would make the whole neighborhood team to put to get. A place like -- well. The IST came in they brought him up and I haven't handicap at them for. The customer data only like six chairs in the whole place at the tiny little thing and much other ethnic Chinese in espresso gimme a break. But to put in the -- about them they come back for second inspection and now they need to have a handicap that company employees. Well they -- -- to be the guy who plays in his husband. These serious. Are coming about the way he act. And lets you -- being handicapped by the city and state from opening a great business needs you handicap what I do I'm Michelle -- we are -- -- hate America out. -- get up with a winner. And the next hour and got clouds windy -- got to UN all the rest of the callers that have a winner. -- the legislation naming contest on the compact.