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Wow yeah. It's not find her show brought you by network capital funding corporation your future -- financed. Rain today. Cool. Sixties. Cool the little drop out before things resume tomorrow the good weather alright football under attack for good reason I guess kids are getting injured. It's on the child level and on the high school level. -- story out of Philadelphia first comparing high school football to gladiator fights of ancient times. In Philadelphia school board member patty sexton. Has called for banning the sport of high school level she's also public school teacher she made her comments at a meeting last week. In council rock where she is on that board. She said continuing the sports schools funded by the general taxpayer is inappropriate it is become too dangerous football pass. And carries. Too much of a risk of lasting affects. From injuries especially concussions she says it's no longer appropriate for public institutions to fund. Gladiators. Says sexton I'm very very concerned about putting these student athletes in the position of getting a concussion. Football has gotten faster. Harder and more dangerous with each passing year I'm extremely scared we will eventually be sued over injury suffered in sports. Well that's certainly a valid. Point that our municipalities. You know your city -- could face big lawsuits. If somebody has long term injuries from playing football -- violent game but. It is so woven into the fabric of American life are we. Are we can win thing out. As a society if we pull back. On every level which I think we have to do it's it's unavoidable it's already happening it's going to happen it's unstoppable. And I lamented because I love football but. When you have former NFL quarterbacks like Troy Aikman and Kurt Warner. Saying they would be hesitant to let their children play football. That tells you it was something about the game from people who know it well. Here's another story pop Warner. Pop Warner football players won't be taking quite as many hits from now on the news organizations said it is limiting contact in practice. To try and make the game safer for young players starting this year. It said coaches must limit contact to no more than 13 of the practice time it is also banning full speed. -- on blocking or tackling girls in which players lineup of more than three yards apart. The organization says coaches can have full speed drills were players approach each other and an angle but not straight ahead into each other. It also says there should be no head to head contact that sounds common sense. I'm surprised they waited this long I love football. I hate to think that on a professional level it's going to be went up but I think it's going to be whipped up. Forward down it's gonna be -- it's gonna become a much less violent game how do you feel about that. And how do you feel about attacking it. On the high school level in the pop pop Warner level is that even realistic to do that. Think about Friday Night Lights and think about Texas. Think about the heart and soul of America where. High school football is a big game. Is America going to put up with us. And oh let's have some personal experience please if you have been in a situation you play high school football -- any lasting injuries any sense. That there's violence in that game that is. It is just goes too far 6172666. Seats succeed in Texas as well. That's 68680. -- your very resistant to this you're right you're upset so when you have a chance comment on this we go to Paul first though Paula good morning -- RKO. Morris -- thank you to call you know. And remittances. This is below the video out water I'd certainly think that they need to take a good hard look at Vienna well any better. Even so there's a college level bomb. Well all in how it appreciated and Howard's play however to imitate. High school and -- football any future jury change it -- because there are a lot of and government side -- not that those lower level. Odd that degree of violence they do on the field are. Now I'd put football high school also played baseball and I actually am I got any increased playing baseball related great football speaker spoke well. Always what the situation. -- Oprah air pact and prepared. Prepared violence I -- I'm. How about head injuries the so clearly you have any concussion. Never had indicate Belgrade want our quarterback and I know what -- wide receiver so what can get most open field. High velocity impact bridge yet yeah. You're running back going up the middle linebacker coming in and gonna tackle. -- -- let -- guard radio veteran defense -- and up until one and on non offensive now. We billion deal another different things but none of that high velocity felt that it could potentially create injuries perhaps -- -- You get on the opportunity trader in every position on football guilt but. Yes in other sports -- I finally got hurt late in the war on when I was just haven't let baseball glove and hat on and then I did. -- -- the catcher and I doubt residual media image. Just being that I debate should I go and get when you're -- all -- And -- -- -- we don't but that's -- that's kind of an attack on on non sports in general. And certainly there's more risk of having. A brain injury with football and that's what the latest thing to be concerned about thank you Paul for the call 617266. 6868. You know if you -- out of bringing you injury feature about concussions -- -- -- from a mood changes. Depression. From having too many concussions. The thing that's going on with sports today and everybody watches it sees it going on is everybody. Getting more intense. Better trained more muscular more fast more hard hitting all the time and the more you see this in the pros the more it gets imitated. On the lower levels so. How do you feel. How do you feel about changes. Being made are we win -- out -- as a country if we allow football to be watered down -- Brazil they were. -- your -- him bubble wrap and making sure nothing bad ever happens to them by. I'm just making sure they they can't do anything that would possibly injure them whatsoever. Because they might get a concussion from playing football so now we have to make sure that the game is completely. Wimp doubt in. You not allowed to tackle you have to be a three foot zone before you tackle he can only play tackle football for an hour at a time every week. And -- the rules are just ridiculous the kids have parents the parents know the risks -- that -- and it all right so you know what let's may get personal plan. No was ten years old and whatever is the entry eight years old whatever gets you into -- -- he starts playing pop Warner and -- C. Him coming home and haven't headache. -- you go to the doctor and then you become responsible parent pulled a kid out you don't push remain to keep. Going for the glory that you couldn't get because you who weren't able to ask why was the football goals that you want what is the point of having the -- designed in -- way. That only words likely for those and they're getting another kid gets hit in the hand and Little League with a baseball and has concussion do we stop playing baseball. As you know my neighbors and next in the neighbors next to me have a trampoline in the backyard. And they have two kids bounce on -- for six or seven hours a day -- six or seven hours a day. You can get massive brain damage her jumping on a trampoline and doubt absolutely for that many months in a row OK so we did eliminate trampoline is altogether and we should go over and tell him hey we're gonna put a limit on how many how long your kid can bounce on that trampoline because I'm the government -- -- This is a designer outrage it's the new designer thing for politicians to get upset about. It's like the steroid thing steroids have been going on for years and years and -- I don't get a little frog hollow and all of a sudden you know one guy is pumping steroids and every -- -- -- hearing and one guy shoots himself raging assailed dies Null set and everybody wants to get -- border with the new designer outrage about concussions in full wallets protect the children. Oh shut up while concern -- to design their power ages legitimate however. I think there's legitimate concern of a football and what we're seeing news. Are rising up of -- under represented. Class of people and that is if you're if you're -- high school football player. And you feel like you're looking back can you -- you know those hits I talk. I think I have a minute sharp since I took those -- Or college global whatever you took a couple hits and you know you're just not as quick -- -- used to be. Is that not possible. And is there any reason. Not to have a game designs that makes it safer 6172666860. Were talking about a story out of Philadelphia I'm. Where. A school board member says we have to pull back. Upon and the way we play this game to make it safer for kids because we're gonna get sued as school districts and be held responsible people aren't you. -- I don't know waver when you go home plate pop Warner football you understand that there's risks involved but allowing your kid to go play game when he gets tackled by other children. -- old -- like let's let's not have playgrounds anymore because kids like to play touch football or tackle football without equipment on Saturday afternoon at the local park. You know we used to play tackle football time in the backyard and we still play with adults my -- we all used to play knowing your guy -- No one no no I don't -- if I got a concussion I think that's a safer -- you know -- if someone hit -- hard enough that I had the wind knocked out of me my mother would come -- take me in the house until I was ready to go back now and if -- if she didn't think I was right then -- -- go back out. I didn't hit the trick and congressman to come all accommodate noted though that. Leader Marty RW RK what is likely. Very important big dog. -- sorry just so you know I had a concussion in high school football. I thought you could tell you know. Do it does is it really responsible for your current conditions. Yeah exactly. The effects or -- beyond clear you really do we shot in what way. But I can't -- Sean. You know just. Burton takes direction well certain wicked bad contusion and expand the instrument do you bet -- no doubt so that played in seven weeks. But are you as you look back on the do you think it should be structured in some way to make it safer is it worth having. The injuries you've had your whole life to play football. Well I did the -- cartilage in the -- truly that I went -- for thirty years well I played. After high school to -- in. Little slow it's a fun game. But Christ does -- does it have to be as violent as it is to be fun. It and practiced by -- that. We were also speed I really you have to have practiced I regretted it I don't know what you need at full speed at practice. So many times you know the reason they were -- full speed stood. Teach you to play at full speed but if you. You're -- I -- it we can't say I thought he was coaching is arguing. They -- it's just wimpy and stupid just take away the violence on football. And I you know I I just have to disagree because. I don't think sports gets more fun when it's more violent do you -- -- although let me just when you know we're all and when you use the -- violence okay yeah that's the wrong -- T what's orange that they adjust its tackling. It's hitting it's part of the game we use the word violence should bring it up these connotations of like people with. With guns and knives and their and its violent imagery it's not it's just a tackle. You hit some money tackle him to launch a kids out there -- -- sad you won't have a problem I used to play tackle football is -- all the time on street games you know we'd play in the park. And did they just beat pickup games nobody was ever slamming head in the head which is what happens when you put helmets on it's a different thing. Then just say we're playing tackle Lee. But I I object to head spin -- a try head to head off horsepower on what they call horsepower. Whitehead would never got that low. So I think she could've been tormented that -- also. Our life thank you arms are related immune to cut you off in mid senses you good morning -- -- -- -- -- -- -- It will grow any bigger investors -- more exciting to watch Carlos. Certainly bigger faster I don't know about more exciting to watch I I have a bias on that one. Well I think you're you're -- -- about getting. More and more violent you know as that we had said that we all and put into better input and get better. You know they are gonna get faster and they're gonna get market citing. If you're really bad hearing and head to head it's gonna eat much bigger impact then give it back out and others saw it again. Don't think -- I think well it progress by Roger but they're prepared to talk about. Think getting more Iowa. Always hey I don't know what you mean a fair comparison when those people get stronger better trained. More committed because -- more money in professional sports so the mood -- more aggressive because there's more at stake. Then the you can look at the game and say okay this. The law of physics says this makes the game more dangerous so -- -- just the rules a little bit to bring say didn't they do this in the NFL last year when they change the kick off Furl. That was an -- an acknowledgment. That they're putting their big investments at risk right. But I don't think anyone had a problem with the role change ain't gonna make things safer port -- out here. You know eliminating wasteful but. Carlos because of the legal liability so that -- may be the wrong answer the right answer would seem to me would be to pull back on the game in some way so you make it safer do you agree with that. You do everything -- lawyer's gonna litigation it out of control that country. No absolutely but that's -- there but isn't that highlighting a reality the football is -- are you prepared to have your kid -- called a few minutes ago on cities got permanent injuries including mental ones. Because he played high school football. Does that make sense. We believe we'd better after governor would be an out he can't play any play after after -- police division we've got result. And it's as an adult it's his decision as your child does say is inappropriate for pop Warner. Or for junior high school or high school to be have a nagging kids play a game where they could just suffer those kinds of injuries where there's a high likelihood. I think apparently responsible for their child. But go on paper the -- years and -- -- -- -- Saying that that they know better. Very apparent that the children now. Look there are a lot of people who know things more there are experts in certain things who know things better than parents yes but parents are supposed to make assessments. That doesn't mean everybody else shots their brains off. Jim good morning you're -- you're on our chaos. It's not violate it'd intensity and their competitiveness. In which human nature of playing in the very -- in order being the best you can not be an injury happened everywhere I. I -- are they really in my English so we're really that's what I'm. Baseball for a ball hot feeling that I lose and we are good at what we're I don't regret it really know if you're gonna. I would that's life nobody's arguing that life -- life the argument is this. When the -- or watch and Bobby Orr in in Johnny do you sick and a Tony asked Zito. In the sixties and seventies playing hockey there was something visually that was a very different Sunnis you looked at them from playing hockey now. You and you know what it is quite. No they Wear helmets now when you don't get to see their faces or their hands. And when that first came about I was I thought that was absolutely depressing and disgusting that they were starting to Wear helmets. And you know what nobody thinks anything now that it makes the game safer I think for the guys playing the game. Is that does that ruin the game and was that inappropriate for the -- the NHL to make a rule change. What took another like you were under the speed of the game are tricked out blue beating down the ice and you get -- and the board and you courted the board were you speak English comic and -- I -- -- You do you lounge act you don't get direct approach talking -- think they have put my friend. Well he developed global -- stick he had that surgery because there can be no eruption -- coming up. You know I mean again it -- and what taking Cuban may truly clean about it you know I know you. Making reasonable changes to face reality. And that doesn't mean we're selling herself out as a culture mutual respect our children if you send your kid off to school to play football. York trusting that the coach is not going to put him in danger knowingly. -- our future that. Let's do it wouldn't solid and we wanna have a portion age who -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- So none of those are worthy of mention in this conversation it's a given. That sport comes -- danger as does walking down the street. What we're talking about is. Excessive danger dealt with minor adjustments Soros you could change. They got kid rocks off the sideline you say hey how's everything always says how many heads a little woozy Arrigo said Don you out of the game that said. Knowing these regulations currently needs -- needs the government do work while you -- ruled out pop -- -- now I have parents they make my roles for me I make rules for my kids -- don't you this is -- so you control what happens a pop -- final -- -- every time I control what happens with my children how do you do that when you're trusting them to -- Ankiel I. What do you think you turn it over to the coaching you have -- -- is -- and what happened we are you dropped it I cannot get yourself pick up until our safety -- the -- -- -- you say what happened today says I get a headache and then you make sure you're gonna partisan approach. So I'll sell you don't just drop kick off from tree and AM forget this 6172666860. At the Todd -- so 680 WR dale. -- where you'll employers Cuomo people we are also talk frustration in the stadiums -- JP WRK zero. Texas 68680. The NHL's been making lots of changes from 603. Finally what about heading the ball in soccer that seems to be one of the most dangerous action sports I agree and they are pulling back on that. With our school sports car -- -- -- -- like that -- -- -- each -- making a lot of rule changes which is precisely leading to the fact that known watches that sport anymore. Know whenever Washington says it's gone down considerably as a really made these ridiculous rules Paula before I know -- viewers we want the violence type call. Door at the more you -- is right on on this talk now I I understand your concern but. The only -- actually do they need to beat or that you would even make any difference Whoopi -- changed and how people perceived. We are strong and we didn't if you out all sort of a kid comes off the field and he's got a concussion what do we do it and which has nothing to do with the rule congregation this. No no rule change you could make -- pop Warner high school football. That would make. I -- -- the hotel and fewer concussions. Okay let me get you a couple of preempt all the why I think that's the case. Because injuries it typically. Happened -- -- -- a few days or more are still calling across the ground and grabbed Joseph Biden selection any normal not even very bat away and do that. All right well -- I'm sorry we can't have any more obvious arguments about how all sports injure people. We know that no need to mention that ever against this is about injuries beyond the norm. That could be corrected with -- changes frank good morning GO. Tiger launch. Duck it's a spectacular sort of the stroke -- beyond. Actually there are certain high school students -- lunch stop. -- a controller won't stretch we are not stroke -- some are still slouch. Well academically and unleash your speech on the stroke astute listeners who work hard and really didn't do well academically rather than. We focus some students. -- you -- play high school football and they know might be good but I mean actually no shot to go into the and I felt that -- -- this sort of gradual short stroke. That. We're trying to be the -- to that -- to try it free ride. No no deal -- trying to be so Christian theology student Richard obviously be more Turkish side. So you wanna get rid of scholarships for athletics in football is your proposed. Emmy -- -- -- slight but I mean any track them down I mean I I -- -- to people who appreciate Sri lunch. -- -- And that incentivizes people to play the more aggressive I think the NFL has you know if you cut down on the number of players a lot on the team you would cut down a lot. On the sacrificing the people lose their own health -- good morning TO. To monitor you don't mind doing well. You know I mean the arguments against that spirits and spiritual condition and I injuries. You know it's really kind of it's kind of useless I mean -- -- and we understand that I mean. -- running people staying put your head down and buried -- someone. Who's standing still I mean there are certain rules that are not. In place -- been solid kicking out. OK you know you can only -- under orders and or anything like that you don't wanna see and -- -- -- -- I'm getting injured and it shouldn't. Well that's true it's a -- it's about shifting the rules to make it in general a little bit safer and they're all kinds of rules that are designed -- -- safety and sports. So yeah now -- -- more about this later but are coming up we've isn't so whacko leftists you got us to talk about. Well this is good PR guy named a room group just from the independent. 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