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Sat, 9 Jun 2012|

Avi continues the conversation from last hour and adds the topic of Scott Walker's recall election.

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This is John Nelson. Into our number two of the program phone number 87746943. To do. That's all screwed on right. Text message code 686 name. Email address any Nelson at wrko.com. And I'll mention again with my way of apology in the voice sounds a little bit off. It is. Making a return trip from some laryngitis. Two days ago so there -- -- we will. Be inspired enthused enough to. Do the program by virtual of the colors and textures in the emailers. Speaking of email chain. Email then. Saying I guru DJ twice over the past few years to find out what did he stood for in the answer came up deployment day. Well it's a new one on me -- I've heard of deliverance. Analysts some of the others doomsday. I don't think that -- I think the there was an H used for each hour it just designated these specific gay porn case of the hour the specific hour. I think goalie other interpretations. Are little fanciful too much -- she also said. Or email. But yes Roosevelt did know Pearl Harbor was about to be attacked because the radio monitoring picked up Tora Tora. Pushing each truck truck runs through them. There's an entire documentary on this topic well maybe. But try try trial was used by the Japanese who is the code signal -- action means tiger tiger tiger tiger. But. It was the coach signal shamed by the pilots. When they were. Making their run indicating. That indeed they had achieved complete surprise. So by the time that message. Was broadcast even though -- and picked up by radio -- I'm not sure anybody would have known what it was mean to the same tiger but you would have been too late to do anything. So I don't know what documentary you saw edging back. Finding out that try try throwing over the airwaves. There's not indict pushed up. Okay yeah changed and I -- mention Pearl Harbor really. He chipped in passing to mention that this past week. And we commemorate the anniversary both of which was June 4 to seventh 1942. Six months after the battle Pearl Harbor but never know where conversations are going to go. In the category of fun stories to become a crush -- me just interject them now we'll get back to more serious stuff I came across this on line. For the man who is dangerously virtual -- to look good or devil may care. Colombian designer. Miguel a -- -- Has come up with a polo shirt. Which is also bulletproof. And this is the sure ways for parents. Those antiballistic. Panels. That promise to shield the -- from a range of weaponry. Though. They version designed to expand and it usually costs a bit more. -- that no one just made to fend off nine millimeter. Weaponry. More rounds. Prices range from 3000 to 4000 dollars -- sure. Company calls itself the Armani all bulletproof clothing. And says his -- are proven to work. I can say nothing to that effect I'm merely reading it. I've never seen it or warn it. However some people say that it. If you may have some vulnerability anyway so. Where -- your own risk look at. And. Let's see this story we have heard in the news -- swam and hero -- -- some news cash and then. More and looked it up Japanese Coast -- on Friday just yesterday. Rescued he British adventurer. Caught in the storm. While rowing sowell crushed the Pacific. And another British -- Was awaiting rescue. Sarah. -- out in WT end. Showed her boat rolled over and was damaged in the storm during -- attempting journey around the world. She treated -- -- for Japanese. Always being early. True shape on the rescue ship. She's signal for help on Thursday morning 900 kilometers from a small -- point 6550. -- maybe. Off the Japanese northeastern coast. -- water was she'd been through a -- herbal. Another specialist had to rescue one Charlie -- -- His vote was 11100 kilometers. Nearly seventy miles off the -- Wooten had embarked on her planned tour the appear journey. In April 20 a lot of trying to shorten the globe. Using only human power cycling rowing and kayaking. More than 20000 non -- -- -- -- -- He planned to row solo one unsupported or crush this the Pacific. He's still out there apparently well maybe not Coast Guard ship is expected to reach -- tells border on insanity -- maybe he's got there. Yeah I -- I suppose look whatever your interest in the late but I found myself wondering. Who's gonna pay for the cost. Of the Japanese Coast Guard having to go out and rescue these people. Yeah every minute course where soft arkush would have been our cost. The UH HOK I hope they charge them. -- you wanna go out there and do crazy things be prepared to pick up the cost we get a once in awhile you get hikers. Have been have been rescued they were stranded on some my -- brother in the middle of the winter they were trying to. -- -- the top for the bottom or midway island. And may end up -- GA we need help. Then then apply should be able go Leo I'm gonna go for a walk in the woods. No name you know -- Hours later days later have to call -- -- Wanna go for a walk in the woods -- Monroe -- that's fine but be prepared to pick up the tab. You know I hear about now I'm Michelle phone banking and room where I am can you help -- my boat is leaking. That's not surprised that's what happens when you're rolling across the -- of the Pacific. Can forward to restore. There -- Two bit on. Scott Walker. None of the election revenue -- talkers unaware. And he. To tell about the -- exit polls say -- we looked up the exit polls. And they had a too close to call. -- the time when. There were later reporting that the war who's leading by ten points she won by seven. And I sure wish we found out that too close call he said -- means Walker's gonna win. Could shift the fabricating them make good pitches making. Our look better. Now that the time of course I thought an agent polls are very accurate they usually are. But I must say he was right I mean I -- -- the motivation was right but he was correct. That the exit polls were solid seven points off these are the same agent pulled by the way. That show Obama leading Romney by seven points in Wisconsin. From this we deduce what. And maybe Wisconsin is too close to call. No I can't believe that -- knew that there was that kind of fabrication going on exit polls usually are good I don't have an explanation except. To speculate that maybe. You're not everybody is willing to talk to an exit poll when you leave the voting Booth. Maybe the people on the left who just more enthusiastic. About talking to the pollsters. Not someone comes up users can insist on doing a survey with -- to -- GG Asia's boat. They're the ones who left for more animated. And and so there was a disproportionate. In terms of the universal elected I don't know but. Here's your interest and people have been citing Miller's exit polls. Citing them in terms of other information not just the walker. I think they say they -- the presidential. Contests -- about certain issues. That exit poll should be discounted. However there's one guy here's an example men who -- talking about there was a protestor. Young guy. Well we have a clip on him. Who was interviewed by somebody from from television station. There. You know I love because. He was so overall -- No issues this is one of the guys who was part of the group out there. On election night in Wisconsin. Just a special election -- as the results became apparent run -- But this hurts us all every single one you -- there in the nation if you're watching. Democracy died tonight your very emotional I'm very -- as we all loved best and that's this is that it. If we didn't win tonight the end of the USA as we know it just happened. This sad. Her. She's -- we're still here. -- I turn now he -- you very emotional I was good because inning I really -- bush was wavering. But -- own and asked him. Why do you think democracy. Has died and all these people came out to vote showing democracy works perfectly well. You see what the people on the left thinkable and they use the term democracy. They think being in the means do it my way if democracy is fine as long as you vote correctly this is the mentality. Of the left wing. On the the -- worse shoes. People who don't like the Soviet Union and like the idea of control sure you can have elections they wish. How elections in the Soviet Union. And then in 98% turnout. -- if we over fifty. Sergeant on the 2% didn't turn turn out because it was mandatory. I can't he had to vote the right way. Now sorry buddy Terry Gilmore hit the marker she didn't die in the United States has not ended. Democracy is alive in May be we started reclaiming our country. From people like you think all you have to do is to put claims on the hard work and the output of everybody watched. And take from them what they have learned from cross for we have learned. In the form of course of payments called taxes. To support we've got to pet project you have in mind from your own. Welfare your own pensions to -- any kind of who have grandiose scheme come up with that you think. -- the way we ought to do things. 877469. 4322. I'm sure they won do these adventurous and jobs. We're doing jobs you just take money from -- soon you'll. Have to work to send the check over. Back to the phone lines bill you are next on the program good afternoon. -- I'll open a bar or squats and bench hold dual orders did speak. Popular slope came out in fact backed government -- at the British -- does this stand there and special help or maybe you are in Massachusetts. It made it back what they just can't get well some banks. As they ask them to put a little bit put. -- health care and start a man if every state did bad this country would be over and like you can't always. Well you're right build you know we've. If we could somehow control the dead and they. And these unfunded liabilities. We would be and it's interesting that people are beginning to get it in the beginning to make this statement. That we can't just know that -- cliches kick the can down the road. So maybe you -- more than in the right direction. -- Dell may do thank -- You you know in San Jose and San Diego I mentioned earlier in those liberal cities in California. And there was a vote terrain in the -- the pensions and on the of the public employees and the vote in favor was overwhelming. I think the 67%. In one -- 70%. In another. It's interesting because on the one hand people may go with that statement. About. About that you know we had. We can't just beat. Shoveling money out of our pocket to the people in government through the unions for the union cautions. And that's what these votes -- here's a text message from six point seven it's the end of the public union gravy train final shot. But just when you think you know where the electorate is going. Here is a poll from Rasmussen. Published Friday June 8 2012. Pretty recent -- It says. 49%. Of American adults at least somewhat favor unions for public employees. 46%. Approach. Now. That's pretty divided group and these are of of likely voters. Are the ones that. That Rasmussen survey. British not the strong message that we would like. Not the message it was giving San Diego and -- say not to mention Jewish content to just when you think that. It's clear where we're going. Maybe not so clear. And we've got some battling it to do and look at the presidential contest. Which seems to be pretty much dead even among the popular vote. So there Russia. There's a lot that happened. -- -- again in Rasmussen poll this -- I read today. That just over half. Of American. Voters. 51%. Believe the government is more of a threat to -- -- -- individual rights then. Day protector of them and most people prefer government that provides fewer services. As long -- means lower tensions. So. Maybe. Making some drivers this is indeed the center right country -- -- mentioned earlier about Michael Bloomberg News. His band proposed ban on supersize sugary drinks in the name of public health. 65%. Of American adults oppose such a law. 85%. Share of the government does have doesn't have the authority to impose such a thing 85%. You're struggling about that -- We say the government doesn't have the authority. May be people mean the moral authority. But they do have a political authority I mean they have the wherewithal. And it's happened and number of cities including Boston and in New York they keep going or. And talk about transplants and now sugary drinks and what can be sure that lunch. For kids. Is. Unfortunately the case. That these people have that kind of political power. -- it brings us back to the mandate to buy health insurance. Hope that stands up and what is there that the congress or government. Legislative bodies eleven levels what is it that they can't impoverished. That's why that's why the concern here about. About that we're close with tipping point -- the government has grown so large and the political class so arrogant. And and the public sector employment so large. That we're in danger. Of the tipping over in terms of the pontiff should remember that that. 47%. Of the country and maybe over 50% now accuses of a couple of years ago. -- latest. 47%. Of the country pays no income taxes. -- than me. He means that they can vote for programs. Supported by the content that they don't have to pay for. Always had a good temptation right. How many of us would vote to support a program for us that we don't have to pay for. Somebody else. Yes it is -- Charleston. Crosses vantage point is this piece was written. -- -- Trumpets were added by the clever you know I was with a key port for the rest. Okay. Got to read an interesting email which you can send and Nelson. At wrko.com. This comes from -- living. Says hello Ali from China listening via Internet stream. Regarding any possible advance information of a surprise attack at Pearl Harbor which is. Who's become sort of lose interest in sub topic this afternoon. Lee writes I am had been living in northern China teaching me at the university. For two plus years. In 1941 the US and China or allies should because the Japanese had invaded China. Several years before actually Manchurian. Was it. Nineteen early 1930 -- wants America and they invaded China. So China and the United States were close analyzed at the time. He goes on my Chinese wife tells me in this story. He -- she says somewhat common which is actually somewhat common knowledge here. Who according to her is told here in China that some diplomatic connections in the Peruvian government. Passed on to diplomatic counterparts from the US. Early in 1941. The Japanese were planning a naval attack against the United States somewhere in the Pacific. I mean he writes note there are strong connections today is there were then between Peru and Japan. And then. Just surprise attack well yes if one can -- or would not see the writing on the wall. We live Hurley Libby formally of Lowell Massachusetts. Now in borrowed -- PA OT will you inner Mongolia. The People's Republic of China. What's interesting is this email. Was sent at 405. PM. East Coast time through we are so about a half hour ago. Pressuring you to which means together here. But it was sent to 405. AM. Saturday morning local China time. So. I don't know and then things are further confused as he says Friday afternoon although. Here's the ninth of June so the these commercial. Somewhere come -- Pitches that today yesterday or tomorrow but it's a must be a twelve hour time difference. Philly if you're up at 4050430. In the morning appreciate -- listening marvels of technology can you imagine that. They would go far we've come from don't talk about Pearl Harbor and the flights that were launched in secret by the hole. Naval task force sitting awfully. Well a few hundred miles off of Pearl Harbor nowadays you can get away with that right we CO. But the people can listen to the program. From around the world. Means by the way of course. Nobody has any excuse anymore. But for now lives -- used to be he would tell home gym working men but that doesn't work either because the program is close to. So after the program is done Porsche diligently puts it up. On them and on the WRKO site in Chevrolet and then you can listen to it that your leadership. Page 77469432. -- a phone number. Sally with regard to the exit polls speculation it may be. I don't. The people assume that. The parishioners from the media are liberal than why are you are more darkly maybe they feared identifying -- -- presenting union. Million are required to talk to pollster. Germany comes up to you and shares worth -- -- here from such and chose. -- -- an organization we're doing pull it did you vote I cast your budget you can just say I really don't want to Obama voters private. But I don't know I didn't I guess having done that dark about it. 877469432. To the phone number text message code six -- 86 JD -- tenure in the another text message. This conspiratorial. Tone to -- and a -- 2008 new and unknown Democrat wins the presidency perfectly legit 4012. If Mitt Romney who 90% of Americans know well. Wins it will be rigged. I don't know I don't know that that's going to be the plain. -- not not gonna be rigged. Found they were -- you wouldn't be making any mistakes in as -- town. Okay that's the line's body connection program good afternoon. And then up the road great so we're torturing and is -- -- for you. Beyond that everything in order say it will let. Next thing -- locate the European that would sustain your calendars in default yeah. Big betrayal -- bad -- mean does that mean that I have to tighten my belt -- even more -- bailout let another track X country. Well it means that you're going to you're gonna have to. It means in terms of bailing out explain. It means that -- Where it was uniform are the Baylor isn't gonna come from us directly right away but -- does and an adverse effect on. On the American economy. -- banks are related and and all these. Funds that are transferred from one place to another are connected -- guy you know corporations are involved the banks are involved. That's why the stock market has been Iraq. When things go bad in Europe we know is -- here. So yeah it's partly our problem -- and Spain is big but to the fourth largest economy in Europe. More aware this good man but it doesn't. It doesn't bode well at least as far as soon. Coming out of this -- you which one of the reasons Obama is correct on this point that. That one of the reasons that our economy is sputtering is because of the dragon Europe. They may not be his fault but he's the one in the corner office from the guy in the corner office gets the credit or blame when the economy does well. Obama's got palms of his own email a comment. Just yesterday I think that. Has everybody enthusiastic about. About criticizing him. He made. A reference usually about the economy. -- made reference to the private sector being okay we're hearing his were -- we have the clip here's the president of the United States. And press conference so he wasn't off the record or. More of the -- Mike was on his -- that. The private sector is doing fine. What we're seeing weaknesses and our economy. Have to do with state and local government. Thought that -- not -- the private sectors and doing fine. He regrets that work having people who the public sector that have to be laid off or that we can't hire more people in the public sector. Who sings for the people who the public sector. Makes it sound like you've got to apparel sectors cheer each of them contributing to the economy. Government write this down Pelletier left wing fringe. Government has no money of its -- the only money government ever gets is -- the private sector. It can do that by turn directions. It can do that by printing the money. It can do that by borrowing. But it doesn't have any resource is of its own. Show to say the private sector was to find but the poor public sector who just. Have all these evil governors and mayors just aren't hiring enough people. That's nonsensical. His economic nonsense. Because you don't have the resources to pre fourth of if government expenditures. And hiring for the government. Where the solution to the economic problems we would have solved -- the difficulty a long time ago right. We spent nearly a trillion dollars in the recent stimulus. We have enormous expenditures you've grown up nearly sixteen trillion in debt if government expense church. Could get a shot of the hole and make -- have these smooth sailing. Fast. Growing rapidly developing efficient economy he would've happened already. Why do you think Mr. President. Then after all this money spent. A few more billion dollars gonna do the trick shall we can hire more government employees that's ridiculous. The private sector is not doing fine the president tried to walk it back. But that's gonna haunt. Remember one -- When John McCain -- the fundamentals of the economy are strong in the in the 2000 election -- probably true statement. The fundamentals were strong -- for years ago we're still here. But to shape doing fine by doing this is not the first time that a prominent Democrat. Has used this kind of a illogical. Assessment of what's going you know here's a clip. For Harry Reid senate majority leader October. 2011. So you know. Here and a half ago. Among those shows after a year ago Michelle. That's very clear. That private sector jobs and me doing just fine piece of public sector jobs -- which lost to -- numbers. Same thing. Same thing nonsensical. To me saying that the private sector is fine the public sector is the problem. These guys don't get it and this fundamental ignorance. Of economics. Is a reason that Obama shouldn't be reelected and the Democrats should lose power the private sector is doing fine. No it is not Mr. President as those of us in the private sector can -- Unemployment rate has gone up yes there have been jobs created. -- you know just to stay even with the expanding workforce because of the population grows. The job creation rate has been insufficient. 1781. Probably the private sector was fine in the morning. But not find in the afternoon actually walked it back he said. The economy's not doing fine he never did recant completely on the you know. On the comment about private sector that will come back to haunt. Okay. Soma things we ought to. Let's get to for a moment here. Well okay before -- do that let's go to shows some people call in on the on the television we all talked about -- go back to launch date 774694322. Frank you -- next on the program good afternoon. Hello lobby is always a pleasure do. I'm a big conspiracy gonna want to run some things by you. Well let's let's explore at will and see how she goes. I have this theory that all politicians trying to take our guns away. And I noticed that wrote just sporting goods in Cambridge is closing. It was one of the local places to buy guns and I also noticed that Jennifer -- was not on W like a radio anymore. And Scott Brown who was running. Process is begun better. And she was criticizing him and now she's not on the air anymore. But of trying to connect these dots together because I'm not really good at it but I wanted to run this by you that -- some type of setup going. And I wanted to get your take on that. Well I can speak with a little bit of authority or a little bit of knowledge on the the situation those not familiar Jennifer brand. I had been doing a couple of hours during the game and they did a section for our -- None that was actually in the works for some time there's absolutely nothing. Nothing whatever to do with with Scott Brown of all things frank that Scott Brown has to do. All you know he's got his hands full with a close election. And he's got a state fully Democrats. That don't want to see him reelected. Do you really think that he we should wish is resources. Over but talk show host in the mid day park which is not even any of the prime time for radio. Mean if it would be. Look look give you my answer to that I'm against total censorship censorship people should be able expressed -- group that their views whether it's positive or negative. And I noticed they kept something the news that Scott Brown recently voted against a very important Second Amendment bill house bill HR 22 usually with that. Sure you are the the one where would allow the firearms permit to go state to state us well he voted against that and they -- no one's talking about it. -- -- wasn't it Jennifer -- and I would know anything about the national defense authorization act you're familiar with that. Yeah shrink I see where you you're going little caution here I'm going I do. Until you're not talking about it and how we are talking about the -- Is saying that I shouldn't talk about it here you're coming on the program and you're talking about it. And nobody is thinking of cutting you off for. You know we have a 72 delay here you say something that on the air that we think shouldn't go over the -- we can cut it off we don't do anything about. We don't -- all night I talk about guns -- occasion the reason you don't hear much talk about frank -- it's not a ranking issue most people. Or not. Involved with this as a motivating -- this race between these two senate candidates. You know between Warren and brown. It's not because at any kind of conspiracy. Nobody is meaning in a dark room somewhere. Well you can -- right feel that they covering up for these people look specifically Scott Brown who has no core values I'm not sure what he has. Do you Elizabeth Warren as a matter of fact -- will be voting well I'm gonna tell yet I'm gonna sell you wise yeah I'm gonna give you my reason. I'd rather vote for someone -- -- a complete whack job. Been somewhat who doesn't believe in anything -- supposed to be Republicans and at least 50% of the time has should have some core values and he has not. Well I'll tell you something frank that the bush announced that that's sounds weird to me in a whole bunch of all the appeal but I can prime issue that's. There's Elizabeth Warren if she does get into office because -- viewer vote and other people like that. She you'll be in favor of policies and policies may get through they'll be MF -- you not only will she be more hostile to you with regard to guns. But I suspect on a whole bunch of other issues she will be wrong from your perspective annual helped. Promoter and on the ground so now that the only guy who was better but not pure enough. You can vote the way you want frank it's a free country. But it doesn't make a lot of sense to me and I just wanna come back to. There's no conspiracy here. You may agree or disagree with the round on a particular issue I disagree with around on some issues and -- have to make a judgment. He is always that way by the way between two candidates it's never between. The ideal. And the emissary of Satan. It's always. The better of the two or if you refer the lesser of evils. If you wanna go the other way somehow thinking that we have to break the system so badly before we get something good then. You're using your strategy which left uses also virtually if the blow it up then we'll fiction taught. You're welcome that strategy frank I think it's Mischka. Good luck thank you for calling 18774694322. We just get don't get it don't get the the conspiratorial aspect of this. Okay -- -- look at all the -- women dungy had and now speaking of paying bills. Since we're not in the public sector we have to do -- and our resources. Back on the other side Hamas -- In Jersey and new England's powerhouse RB. Some emails and phone number 877469432. Coach X 86 me. Email address say Nelson and -- we are here. -- a couple of quick things here. No running out of time. Just want to mention that you're right after Obama says -- should be doing fine standard and poor. Kept the downgrade. On America. Doing the raiding the credit rating in the United States. Which kept lower and they -- with a negative outlook so they contradicted him. Got another email from -- living in. In China. So apologizing she meant to say Sunday morning that twelve hours ahead of us. Really their head using when you go west. Newt gets earlier which crossed the -- -- finished in Atlanta it's Sunday morning. Okay. There and should not the story related to that Wisconsin recall being. The well when the visuals over. Barrett the mayor of Milwaukee lost give the concessions speak -- -- shaking hands with the crowd. It is until you find it on YouTube they're different versions of it but get the one that really shows were not about to Auckland two shows are clearly. The woman. Said to him. Will I be arrested a flash -- you this year among his supporters. Barry thinking quickly shed I would prefer if you hunt in the -- only -- them across the things. She was angry because he given the concession speech before the for the both from Milwaukee was countered. As you've somehow if it reversed things -- Barrett couldn't take him back the concession. Now people treated this has been on the news -- more toured with a little bit of while and somewhat funny. Though lieutenant governor also survived a recall on Tuesday night. Her name is Rebecca clay fish -- governor Scott Walker I just want you mentioned. If a man had slapped her what the reaction would have been. There would have been poaching isn't funny and while -- you know who wonder why she did that he would have been under arrest. And that's what should happen to this woman. There is a very ugly double standard here. There's a story that won't be able to develop now maybe we'll get to in greater measure next week. A California high school football star what he spent five years in prison on rape allegation. They know is acknowledged to be faults. And the person who made the allegation. Has recanted. But. This woman has contacted him on FaceBook. -- feels guilty about making up the rape allegations she asked if they could let bygones be bygones Starr spent five years in prison. Bygones be bygones. Then she should she didn't want to admit her -- prosecutors. For fear of having to give back the one and a half million dollar settlement she won from the Long Beach unified school district. After -- scars filing a lawsuit accusing the school of port security. So far the best to my knowledge -- charges being brought against her. Her name -- one that Gibson. Is the name. She was then fifteen years old when this allegation false allegation have to something's. Wrong. With an imbalance here war on women so far from a sure -- Thank your -- for producing firms hope to see and actually. This is something else the most.