Avi Nelson - Obama, Bailouts, and D-Day

Good afternoon everybody -- Don Nelson welcome to the program. Nice stimulus. Bring them with you for the next couple loan. And you'd like to join in the conversation. 87746943. To choose the toll free number. 66 game is the text message code. And email address saying Nelson NW RK you know. Dot com. Well. No idea and we like to keep abreast of history on this program. A little -- late because we had no show last week. Who played with a couple. Who bit ahead on wind. No one coming up that will defer to another program. -- we go a little bit of time all these are dates in the month of June. Well unwillingness to of course was. The greatest amphibious landing. In the history of mankind. That of course was June 6 just a few days ago. He was the major thrust that. Brought the allies who liberation of Europe of course we were coming from the -- -- Soviet Union the Russians were coming from the east they Rory and engage -- had been for some time. That's good to focus on even though it's not around here this was. June 6 1944. And we specialize. The international system and two numbers that he and -- differences in years gone by that. Opinions euros or five in the season one of them but still worth paying attention to. And being aware of the tremendous effort that so many people put a foot forward so that we can enjoy the freedoms we have and then there shouldn't stand hearing carping complain and and you'll things that we do have free America. The other one though that I find interesting that. He's known but not as well commemorated her celebrated. -- the battle of midway. Which also took place in June who's about a little ashes for three -- to three days June 4 to June 7. Now -- 1942. Two years exactly. Before. No Pearl Harbor taken place six months earlier than the beginning of December. 1941. -- was a major battle is coming came a month after another battle action being indecisive really the battle of the coral city. But with the battle of midway. -- so. Probably yeah I -- it's widely regarded as the most important battle of the Pacific campaign in probably the largest naval naval battle. Two at that time maybe even now. In history. It was a battle of carriers. Between the United States and the empire of Japan. Japan was at the time. Planning an attack on midway hoped to draw the remainder of the American fleet and destroy it -- way is -- to name. -- an island roughly midway. Between US send and Japan. In the Pacific. Fortunately for us we have broken the Japanese code. So we knew what was going on factors. Rather famous story associated with this one of the guys involved with the intelligence. They knew that they were decoding the Japanese radio traffic. In the -- chatter before midway. But they weren't sure that the Japanese objective was midway. The show. This fellow came up with -- uninteresting idea and he had. He had the radio operator. On the island have been -- which at the time which controlled by the United States and near field there. -- -- them send a message. Saying that there was a problem with the water condenser on midway which was completely bogus. -- know this -- story told that the soldiers since on the wrong with the water and enjoy Shenzhen this familiar since Cendant anyway. -- that story is true or not. He did come up with this very message saying. There's a problem with the Warner commensurate midway. And they stranded on code it just open to the air. And they listened. And sure enough the Japanese. Send a message saying there's a problem with the water convention -- AF. And -- was the code name that the Japanese have been using for this target of the air attack that was being planned. So by simple clever ruse. Alone we then we Americans found out that the target was midway. And went on from there. The Japanese ended up losing four carriers we ended up losing one it was really the decisive battle the Japanese fleet never recovered. -- as a matter of fact that through those cruiser sunk within. Time for him five minutes is just happen now -- is -- different planes attacked the different crews Jewish. There was a major major battle in World War II. And it happened June 4 to June 7. 1942. From that point really the America and American forces in the Pacific running essentially. The Japanese or on the decent until he went on to victory in 1945. Interestingly I think one of the one of the participants in the battle of midway -- -- Walsh Bruins. And is a side bar. When the surrender -- mid December in the shining in the battleship Missouri. In 1945. The Americans were there everybody was there all the ranking -- except push Bruins he had been deliberately. Ordered not to be on the battleship Missouri. Just in case. The Japanese. Word faking the surrender. And we're going to launch an attack it was decided to at least one senior naval officer one animal should be. At a remote location. In case you had to being fall. Coming up this week on the fourteenth is Flag Day until we we all know it is just those major holiday of some of the others were to those commemorate. The establishment to the American flag on. June 14 1777. So you can do the rest for a long time ago. If you're just joining us good afternoon this is -- Nina -- didn't do a little bit of perspective in history. Because if we don't know where we have BN. May have more difficulty understanding where we're going. Of course in an election year. That's where it's all -- Direction traveled this country and and with the issues are that are important to us and how we're going to resolve those issues. -- is an important week. There was do you recall election in Wisconsin. Finished curious is not that. Sometimes a the state never think of Wisconsin is a particularly pivotal state. Even though it's in in the northern midwest. Which somehow this election took on. A large significance. And rightly so. It turned out to be. The real challenge between whether we -- going to try to rein in. Some of the public sector extravagance -- And the pensions for public employees that we can't afford them and the union power which has been growing. Whether we're very uranium in war where there's somebody who tried to do that. As skywalker had the governor of Wisconsin. Whether -- you charged to do that he's going to become only political casualty. In which case politicians. Being not especially brave souls when their political careers are at stake. Would unlikely. Try again in other states. The results as you know. Came out strongly for walker who won by seven points more -- Tom -- more than me and one in the original election. And despite all the union power and the their cause celeb guests celebrated cause it'd be calm. Mom on the lower left. The people recognize who was going on but the way there -- a couple votes in California. Also San Diego center or say where. There -- and strong votes 6770%. To curb the pension excesses of the unions. So we're seeing major victory. For the good guys. As some of us would describe -- keep in mind in terms of union authority. Only 7%. 7%. In the private sector. Belong to unions 7% of the workforce is union and in the public sector with government it's 41%. So is she what's happening here and in government employees now -- more get more generous benefits and so -- so forms. As communities across the country including mash -- Have continually. Given awards and benefits and pensions. That they can't afford. Spending money they don't have. Because of course politicians. Can buy votes in the present -- The money that comes to his way down the line and worry about that. We have to worry about it we and our children. I -- interest should lower for those of you just -- we step back was dissolving Nelson good afternoon welcome to the program if you'd like to join the worst. Our phone number is 8774694322. And the text message code is 68680. Email address and Nelson at WRKO. I can't. -- -- the voice sounds a little bit. Well intrusion fraud he. His because zoom on the return side. A little bit of laryngitis so bear with me we'll try to get through. On -- interest didn't go back to skywalker campaign which by the way Barack Obama stayed out of him. More is more about that in a moment. But I like -- Romney's statement. After. The victory. On Tuesday night. And -- won't read the whole thing. But. The excerpt that I thought was interest thing is. -- she says this is Romney's statement. Governor Walker has shown its citizens and taxpayers. Can fight back and prevail. Against runaway government cost imposed by labor bosses. That goes on from there and colors are brighter future -- but for a person running for president. To come out foursquare and talk among labor bosses. Prefer him if you read his book no apology. Remind Mitt Romney -- a new year or so ago. You'll see there -- two. He approach no nonsense. As far as his position with regard to the unions. He's lived it in the private sector. As we all love -- you really didn't in the public sector urge governor. And you know he's quite clear in his cash creation of the union sending the deleterious effects. That picture should union power and some of the union bosses now. So kudos to Mitt Romney. For being willing to. To stand up and identify. Government run away government cost imposed by labor bosses. Preferring him. Okay. Let's show him well. Well among the subject to Mitt Romney. -- good for him. -- nine not be so good for him we're all waiting now for the Supreme Court to come down with a ruling. On. The healthcare. Bill you know -- -- a law Obama cares cause. Especially. That particular aspect of health care mandate which requires everybody to buy health insurance. Who is a Fox News poll taken this week. And it said that. Nearly 60%. Six in ten American voters want the Supreme Court overturned. At least part of the twenty -- health care law. 38%. Think the Supreme Court should toss out the entire law. And another 21% we keep -- ruled that invalidate. Then mandate. Then it which interesting I think is that. The Republicans while Mitt Romney anyway. Has differentiated. Between what he did in Massachusetts. Where we have an individual mandate. And what he's done federally. Which also as an individual mandate. And he makes a distinction that well one is state law. In Massachusetts and -- federal law. Federal law shouldn't be it should be up to this station decide. And therefore. He. Criticizes Obama care ensures you'll write it off from. My executive orders much you can for standoffish but states can decide along the way. The reason this is problematic. Is because most of the people -- not making such a fine -- she should -- people aren't. Aren't discriminating between what is constitution. -- the federal constitution. In what the state government does. Most of us look at this and say this is government -- imposing. A law on us. And we don't think government should do it and it's not that people are so just show us fine with the idea of paying insurers most of us have insurance. Most of us are not going to be affected whether there's an individual mandate or not. But we resents. That the government is taking it upon itself to be able to mandates such a thing. I mean that category. Where I feel like I have health insurance technically sound -- matter me where there's a mandate or not. I had before there was a Mandarin. Even if the mandate gets struck down. To improve the mandate actually knocked and if this goes through those of little by the Supreme Court men the there's nothing that the government cannot do. There's nothing they can't compel us to do there's no restraint on congress. There's the there's just going to be different social contract between us and the government at all levels. Federal state local. Know this may be a problem for. Romney in the in the fall depending on how the Supreme Court rules of how this moves he's just not in the best position to make this case. Because he's making fine distinction we have a law degree from our -- as a business degree. We can partially differences. Pressure of us are just saying hey the government shouldn't be here. There's some interest in sensible with the government he was essential government he's overdoing it. We're close to a tipping point that's what Wisconsin was all about. And all plays in to this the same kind of concern. Too much government. You know Bloomberg says. We're not gonna -- low big drinks what is it no more sixteen ounce coach. Knock -- off. I mean I ever wanna have a sixteen ounce whatever but I don't want a mayor telling me. That can't happen. Okay 8774694322. Is a phone number got some other things to get to blush. Let's go to the telephone lines for -- you wanna join in the fun and frolic and -- and earning good afternoon your first up sanction -- icebreaker. There have been known Ali. I get this company and at 3 o'clock news and ABC and another radioed that Saddam fell off my -- Delayed lady was saying that Obama is that as -- in the European countries. Are -- in this fiscal noted fiscal problems have been we've got. Let's try he is she wanted to hit. Left after all he's in he's just the right person to say that -- -- yeah. Really -- why he's concerned about that he's because it's still adversely affect his political fortunes are yeah. And so he wants to he wants to see what he can do to to the bridge which are right they do Europeans. When they hear this they must -- up front. And if you only got two. We've got a president who is has expanded the deficit. And the debt faster than anybody else before. He's calling for more government stimulus now. For the to solve the -- wants more government spending and he's telling other people to be fiscally restrained imprudent it's just ridiculous. Yeah I'd be glad we keep going all around the country don't want the people that -- keep his stay deficit has been less -- -- life. There's been the only reason why he gets credit say if he wasn't they they want -- the year 2009. Give -- that. -- I didn't he he was saying he's there was some common that I heard -- you talked about how the deficit was low Oberto was just. Downright wrong. Oh yeah Sotomayor right right but the ability to do -- really what he was famous but the bit that the reason. So we can withstand it if they want counting the year 2009 -- That hasn't -- enough years you can do pretty good I mean I -- I mean it's hard you know he really is you know only. Next time you have to pay your taxes turn you just tell Leo there is how you do slip some things out. He chose not to count them CEO -- far you get -- as an accounting gimmick right. She got a great thing about what worked so this I would say this -- that this clearly that president Roosevelt we knew we were gonna get attacked aren't you know at. -- Hawaii you know apple logo are about to get it into the wider than any truth and that's what he is at this stage you know. Women say the end but. I I really good but clearly that we knew we gonna get attacked by pro I've been pro life. Mean we can't we the United States marshals know. We know we we quote total would get -- into the rocky particularly through the net highly. No. But that has really persistent. Myth rumor. Ever since the day -- happened in the NRA where it comes from burning is that. He is sure that president Roosevelt. Was very concerned about what was going on in Europe who was in Japan and Europe. And he thought that we ought to -- the British because if we didn't. The Nazis would conquer all of Europe and we have to fight them. At a great disadvantage because we wouldn't have England which was in fact you know you don't unsinkable. Aircraft carrier and want to point the show. Should he was here come more for the all sorts of he inventions such as lend lease it sector and we were sending a lot of aid to England. But then we were not involved. There was a lot of isolationist feeling in the United States and he campaigned. In his most recent election and in 1940. Not to keep America -- -- of the war. Eerily reminiscent by the way -- Woodrow Wilson who said the same thing in 1916. And got a single war memo recently was the president. We can't nor shall there people always alleged. -- related Roosevelt anyway. That he knew what was going on and he let it happen. I've never seen any kind of compelling evidence. That would indicate that he shut fine. And that the Japanese. Just bomb. Our battleships and and killed 2500 Americans on that -- hi I'm not a fan of Roosevelt. In terms of his domestic policy I thought it was a regarding use -- world leader. But before I sign onto any of these conspiracy -- this is akin to learning the George Bush. Knew about 911 hole perpetrated 9/11 right and I just. I just don't I just don't buy it and it just you know. Maybe I'm naive but there is insufficient evidence to come up with such. Horrible charge of treason and murder against a president of the United States. Okay Abby thanks for goalie -- thank you again that gets. -- 774694322. Is the phone number. Let's see up from seven -- won the Normandy invasion was code named operation overlord. -- dean -- days to refer departure. From there I pulled the who did the day. Is. Instead of Dade was. It was hey you would in the NHK. -- -- but maybe not. Okay and constipation -- back on the other side. Phone number 8774694322. I'm on the Nelson at the latest financial. Welcome back this is on the Nelson won't come into the program if you're just joining us. Hope you'll partition gone against schedule. You may have started doing some Kansas corn nation. Here. Finishing congressional challengers who who -- the -- -- -- course of the the upcoming months. 8774694322. -- -- number. Text message coach X 8680 email address any Nelson wrko.com. We did mention that DJ who is the anniversary of one -- the great naval battles in the turning more major turning point toward the Pacific. In World War II. Let's go back to these telephone lines now 877469432. To the phone number -- are next on the program good afternoon. By -- Nobody globe did not even listen to the beat data in there. Dates in history. -- you know -- -- didn't present a list of all kinds of events going back 400 a couple of hundred years didn't even listing their. Wow. Did they -- the battle of midway. I -- I don't look at -- that's specifically. Until a special how this program so. If they didn't hit the game they probably didn't at the battle of midway either. That's that's remarkable young that the commemorate the other must have been listened to Joseph Biden what was it Joseph Biden said that. Then Obama's decision to go ahead with the bin Laden raid was the most audacious and 500 years -- The same Joseph Biden talked about FDR getting his -- fireside. Chat. Coach -- and I don't Martin hit that has sustained Joseph Biden. -- both teams may have been invented both but he -- that -- puzzled -- -- -- -- over when he gave the fireside chats. I figured -- certainly don't get paid that conversation rather bizarre exchange you had to. When he had no you don't you receive you couldn't make connection song that the percentages -- percent of what. Yeah we're gonna let me bring everybody into the conversation the reference -- to a caller who frequently calls the program and that's fine and you always disagrees with me when he started talking about how bush let's spend 8% -- Obama spent I don't know. From the different percent. And I asked percent of what. I think he couldn't grasp what how does that -- Try to hit -- Leo very happy Abbott & Costello crucial. You know it's interesting -- situation say that I almost said that during the conversation. Because it reminded me of that too I ideal. How a conversation goes on you think there's some initially and then you're gonna -- your but I actually thought that he did was reminiscent who's on first week. He's configure connect. I did that paper -- -- package that's something I got to play because yeah. That's that's really great. 400. I appreciate appreciate your listening and remembering that you share reaching great minds when in the same direction. I'm gonna I'm gonna -- -- -- didn't -- thinking about it. In this -- yeah probably don't. -- final comment on the Pearl Harbor. On this business of knowing in advance. Suppose we had known in advance. And been prepared death. Completely prepared for the lured them into a trap and what not to get too happy -- the attack itself Bonecardi -- can -- the war and what that the American people. Yeah I think so although. If you know I think part of the devastation. Of Pearl Harbor and the impact of it was that it was a surprise attack that and aid to the anger. And the only he'd just overwhelmed any residual isolationist feeling because of the sneaky news of the whole thing in the loss of life. There's nobody has slid and hit some talk from their format do you look in. Said it would have repelled them and they and the attempt itself would have been enough the world but the enthusiasm -- Yeah I I think so except you have to required now that nothing be said until the attack is actually under way. Because of renewal by you do an advanced then would we have taken action for example. The first shot fired in World War II we now know which actually use that those working literally. Was actually the shot fired was not by the Japanese but by an American destroyer the picked up he Japanese many -- It right in the harbor there for Pearl Harbor. It did picked us soldiers per scope send Doug depth chart depth charges and destroy the -- now. You're right that the the presence of they used some from Japan there was armed which clearly an aggressive act but you know I shall we took action before. Before we waited until they were firing she would've been very awkward wind when we drove launched our. Preventive attack or counterattack would you waited two planes we were in the air. Which you've gone after the fleet before drill hole all of history changes Richie and I learn Woodward and. There's one other thing this does turn the UP dates because Stanford do you as an agent for each hour. I get -- I -- ninety for departure. Rather -- right Richard thank you for crying and I like. 87746943. To choose that. The phone number where you can join in the conversation. The email address is Jane Nelson until we are carried -- come the text message code six CDC cheating. I think. The analysis of whether we knew we didn't know about -- over there were indications in invention was just a matter of being. A little bit careless. Which is what happens in peacetime. You know that for example little things journalism calling. There was a big radar and being coming there was a radar installation was being because those days radar -- miniaturized. There was a radar unit operating at. In the vicinity of pro armor he picked up the flight of the Japanese aircraft coming in. And when they called down to headquarters should say they're coming in. They shadow warrior about it the English docket for a flight of B seventeens. RB send teams -- we're supposed to come into Pearl Harbor that day. They failed to recognize that there were coming from the other direction. But those are the kinds of mistakes that can happen on a Sunday morning. When your piece and not expecting an attack it doesn't necessarily mean. The Jewish conspiracy involved there was a series. Of these mistakes were made. Including a major one by Japan which had intended. To deliver. The ultimatum. To. The secretary. Of state. Paul Palin Roosevelt administration before the bombs fell on Pearl Harbor. And because there are inefficient translating -- that statement didn't get there in advance. Show it and being sneak attack in soon forewarned attacked. And that's why half was over by the -- the key thing was that the American carriers. Happened to be. Out of the harbor at the time battleships were there but not to care. -- naturally led. The Japanese admiral Yamamoto and make the famous statement. I feel are all you've done is awakened a sleeping giant and fill in with a terrible resolve. He turned out to be right. So it was that that was part of the anger that happened there was a sneak -- HM -- 746943. Tutu gave you know actually the program good afternoon. I have the sorry to follow missed the dunce cap or Archie Bunker and junior itself. But I had a couple of quick. Point did I wait a minute just just so there -- knowing I didn't know did you was necessarily you on the line and then she gave -- the -- he gave. -- you're the one that he referenced earlier about the phone call that this happened a few days soldiers want to bring everybody into. Right that I don't IA you know maybe he's. Batting out of left field you know but -- I don't wanna comment on Archie Bunker union. No it's not -- -- -- get a couple point except except metaphors have to hold its hard rock okay it's hard tonight I don't. It's hard to bat out of left field. Right right right then that that's why I made the point but it's a hobby -- tonight I have a question play I was watching a tape of -- depress the Mitt Romney. Was on there. And -- back in nineteen. -- years ago I think it was in 2007. Mitt Romney's stated that he heard that the once he heard that the LDS church. Had lifted the ban on African American is -- -- priesthood. That he. Went over to the road and stopped. Clothes store has stopped and cry. Now this could end in 2000 Travis. He cried because of life. Well he says that he cried because he LB at church the Mormon Church. Lifted its long time being. I know that but did -- cry out of joy out of saw. -- lady he claimed that he cried I did GO. Well now I can -- little depressed. Didn't you cry out of joy at the same time -- Not now I'm because it is his -- and -- my point now Mitt Romney's stated this to meet the press and 2007. Can't even check the tape all you gotta do is YouTube. I'll take you we -- do your. I truly -- Explore. LB yet. Split that this -- and in June. 2000. Ansari. In June. 1978. And I'm not following gave. What are you concerned about that independent candidate Mitt Romney didn't try soon enough and. -- now -- I'm concerned about that Mitt Romney was so emotional so and steadfast about it stands. About. African Americans in the LB at -- tried preceded Dole's. What did he do before. All this happened -- his father. Walked out of the 64. Convention because Goldwater. Didn't. You know what went out for -- Captain America I'm I'm I'm get concerned that you know Mitt Romney will say just about anything. To anyone. Day and it didn't -- -- what -- we understand. I MA but I don't you explain to me what is your challenge is. I guess so acute that Mitt Romney will say just about any religious Mitt Romney was so strong. It's so steadfast about African American being. Or not been fully integrated inside -- yeah. Why would -- up by the church. You know it is all come from all of a sudden you're -- -- -- Reverend Wright this same exact thing. I mean accompany a neat about that so you know just like Romney says I I. Think he had this phrase blip -- Good for the goose is good for the DNA you know you feel that that's for. I think I finally gotten what you're driving in here right. There's a bright side now is my Jersey might turn out and I'm glad that I -- luckily there -- more. Good -- I don't know about. You know I'm vaguely remember something about Romney crying about it. You can be in a church. Your organization. And I agree and disagree where some of the policies. Sometimes you try to change them. He made a successful or not look at you for example you live in the United States. Do you have a lot of patronage and disagreements. While I US disease did you demons and head up and no no you you. You love you know I exact get up Villone it's easy to -- Hart died because they. I have hatred toward the ol' boy network I have pages -- The way that a certain individual thing from -- that -- supposed to be in Jihad they know individually and. Dave -- so you're proving my point. You would hate truce but you stay. -- knowledge now RB in its -- is that do you support any of that Doug Collins you know those got a call. Cannot say well if you don't like -- believe this in my country get that -- country. -- which you know David things are so terrible here I don't know why you would stay future -- -- I -- why I should go to jail if you're gonna have to only get a solution. Yogi all like so many white people in control you can go to Africa where there are a lot about black people in control I know why you don't know. You don't go because -- just be and nobody over there and you live better here but the point I'm making however. He's just because there's disagreement within the organization. Doesn't mean that you have to leave it. That's very different from all we have with Jeremiah Wright Jeremiah Wright it's not just a matter of policy disagree right hole for a particular issue. Would Jeremiah Wright stands for is still fundamentally. And mathematics to humanitarian. Objectives. 202 reason to legitimacy to morality. That it's impossible. To hold to try to reformer there's a difference between staying in Nazi Germany. And -- working -- -- the Nazis and staying in America where you have disagreements could -- disagreements with America. It's. Actually going to do. Disagree and I mean about the Saddam Hussein that got Europe that's just -- that my last point is this. I want you to keep up the garage and I know this station does that keep it up about a little bit more because it shouldn't because. It appears this so that she. Neck in neck. In the polls at the end. Who would you blame them a little bit more and we just played her for denying. You know that she is have a certain rage and you know they what they did see the. Well yes then I'm sure -- and I wish to point blame -- I'm sure -- if you came across somebody whose great great great grandmother. He's black you certainly would say -- person it or not probably. Dave thank you your question thank. -- -- Page 774694322. -- guys -- Dave didn't answer my Georgie they're great great great grandmother makes you black don't think so there. But thanks for the suggestion -- Lou -- We'll get to her hopefully later on first patient bills back on the news side among -- -- -- -- Welcome back this is on the -- let's go back to lines junior next on the program thanks for. -- -- Oh sure they will -- go before our. Good -- what to say it's called really -- you're talking quote from the interest in Dublin then I'm. Almost certain gave comes -- it's but it. He looked and looked up -- yes because obviously. He's he's got yes sobering thought there wasn't sure what he's talking about these charter. Can't let good defense either religion or race or whatever -- -- -- -- -- -- and I I feel bad but he's given up more air time. No it's OK and you know you're not alone Jim I gotta tell expression from for a 120 my goodness please stop this moon that that. There are people who people always say -- given too much time nobody. You US we're talking about it you have to give some color and that you don't what we're talking I was could you always good. That is the other Eric Holder has awarded this guy what do you talked about bike. Try to -- aren't getting your job guided and then. -- -- -- up on I don't know I just remember all the all the President George Bush is our military journal -- Yeah I think I think we will talk of bikers holder and more recently. In the news directors gesture because of the appointing attorney. You enjoy this couple of his guys to investigate the leaks -- have been occurring. Which leads to a whole other area. -- were up against the news breaks so let's find out what's happening in the world back on the other side this is on Nelson.