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Who do you think would be better for the veterans is a President Obama not our governor Romney. I think governor Romney. Would be better for the veterans we're gonna start with this commitment what do landslide currently is for governor Romney at 96%. Interest. Now in -- this might be a good place to start it is after all. The day after Memorial Day which doesn't mean we should forget about -- that you know we we do that we focus for a day and then. The next day it's it's business as usual but looked -- some of the numbers in the and the number of people who have given their lives. So that we can enjoy this greatest of all civilizations is just remarkable. Overall view refute and all the soldiers who have died. In combat and because of the war not initially comment disparate debts caused by the war. It comes to over one point three million. Over the course of the history of this country. The greatest carnage was of course the civil war were more than 625000. Americans died -- -- -- because. It was every time there was -- casualty on either side it was an American casualty. We have some 400000. Deaths in World War II. Little over a 10200161000. World War I and it was. Who were very short period of time where we were in World War I for only. Well technically over a year Britain and we have troops that the whole time so that was they're remarkable. Amount of of bloodletting for the period of time we were there 58000. Vietnam and so on now on the list so. Early on Memorial Day weekend in Memorial Day holiday -- passed but we shouldn't forget about me is interesting. That this topic comes from the foreign -- now there's a long piece in the New York Times. He really an enormous amount of space devoted to it. Something would say it's it's little more than a puff piece. For Obama's shown strong commander he isn't all -- I think one of the reasons that that may be motivated. To be placed by the time which you know hardly likely to be endorsing Mitt Romney for the presidency. Is because there was a survey done recently. Among veterans. And they error Romney leads by an insulin like 24 points and it's an enormous disparity. Among the veterans. For Mitt Romney over Barack Obama I'm sure the Obama people. Don't understand it. So they they leak plant this big piece in the New York Times it. He willing chilly -- co conspirator. Showing now. Mr. Obama is placed himself at the top of the it this kill list that he has in the peace and charging he's making all these decisions. Bush remember you is -- and close Guantanamo. -- that god set decider. Jewish -- trying to portray himself as soon as you feel Russian firm commander in chief because he probably figures he. This guy that I am running again she was never in the military. His sons were in in the military. So why is it that he should get so much support from the veterans. And and I'm not getting that support. And I. Think that would probably gonna see more of this over the course of of time. But I guess I would pose that question to begin the program. Why is it. And and you know pure veteran. Shortly want -- you weigh in but others as well because his election that girl that told us. Why is it do you think that veterans are so supportive of Mitt Romney. In it in her and her in the presidential contests. He's got so many more people such a much higher percentage you're gonna vote for him than for Barack Obama. What is it that. Mitt Romney has done or hasn't done or that Barack Obama has done or not done. That is in the one case generated support in the case perhaps generated such alienation. Position I'd like to hear from people who are both veterans and on veterans. A little -- my -- a backdrop although it's on the related but it didn't happen on Memorial Day. You probably familiar with the MSNBC. Host. Who. Fact we had we had the clip earlier on who managed to. Say something disrespectful as is Chris -- and MSNBC. When he talked about it than that that he. He didn't want to disrespect veterans where he managed to anyway. And that's -- has done a lot of attention but he offered an apology which to the best of my knowledge -- just wrote he didn't I don't know that they Alicia. An audio clip of the apology. So -- what he said was that goes through a lot of people who have as you can imagine -- Were quite upsetting got a -- large outcry. From a -- veterans group. So here's what he said. On Sunday in discussing the uses of the word hero to describe those members of the armed forces who have given their lives. I don't think I lived up to the standards of rumor respect and empathy. For those affected by the issues we discussed that I set for myself. And I know it's not quite English but it's not just reading -- zero. I'm deeply sorry for that he said. Most little larger say in seeking to discuss the civilian military divide and the social distance between those who fight and those who don't. I ended up reinforcing it. Conforming to a stereotype. Of -- removed pundit whose views are not anchored in the very real and very wrenching experience. Of this long decade of war and for that I am truly sorry. -- -- -- -- Alicia heard the last part untruths are -- issue he's talking about. He managed to Leo clutter it up with with words. Anyway. He did apologize. In the does anybody believe that the apology Israel be that as -- -- the -- part of the backdrop. Of what's going on here shell if you're just joining its good afternoon -- Nelson in for Howie -- who is off this week. And our toll free numbers 877. 4694322. Text message code 68680. And the question I put on the table. Is recent surveys -- show. That there's overwhelming support from Mitt Romney among veterans. In this upcoming racial -- for whom would you vote overwhelmingly. For Mitt Romney. And the question is why Romney never served his -- never served. And Barack Obama feels put out and therefore there's a nice puff piece in the New York Times. You have now though. Why is -- Barack Obama being disrespect is an unsupported. By the veterans. Let's go to little full line is joy and you are first up thank you for being the icebreaker good afternoon. I can't get your question about that and that's our. Marshall and the economy and I -- and I don't think I ever expected to. Wipe out. So you think it's straight ideological because of course when you say they fought against it with the possible exception of well exposed Korea and may be Vietnam. You know -- in over those wars were marginally ideological most veterans haven't fought. You know for. Capitalism vs socialism -- -- to win the war was configured you'd just you'd think what psychologically or philosophically. They just. -- actually got freedom triple. How -- -- -- being trampled. So you think it's a simple straight it's got nothing to do with Barack Obama as commander in chief. -- -- -- The China. Market. And our. There when you say that how -- you disrespect them. Wanted to take her out want to protect their own injury shortly after it and a -- out a little fun. He also missed call them corpse -- and I guess that didn't help Brad. Well I mean just stupidity. You can do you think there's anything that Obama can do to change it. -- I think journalism border. Route near my JoAnne shall keep the thing thanks for. 877469432. -- the phone number Russia next in the program good afternoon. Good afternoon average for tomorrow this -- I'm concerned the president has given aid and comfort to our enemies when he was running for president. And as president of the United States now want I would say that okay you know I remember what was said during the -- people loose lips sink ships okay. In many times is supposed to keep -- mouth shut in a really sick and tired every time he announces troop withdrawals. And and the fact that the when he was trying to present I'm gonna get the troops out of Iraq committed to connect to practice that's fatal -- enemies hold on just a little bit long. Because they're Americans are gonna cut and run. In this and that they can run. Then we can take over again that's but playing messes that goes out when you engage in that the stupidity right. Now the next thing as he wants to cut military drastically. And I know the reason why does that when you look happy of the polling data from the American left in the anti while movement in this country. The military has the lowest priority. All the social programs you know always sort of trapped in the military goes to the brought up. What do stupid and too ignorant to understand. History. In -- out there and waited about a 1930s. Int he history continues to repeat itself and we go into one -- after another up and opinion is that always to make sure yeah. Lot of women -- who is too stupid to understand history. Who -- for active. I'll -- first well if you are being polls and our military is on the lowest priority as far as funding and everything. I mean that in itself have to tell you had that you're ignorant of history because you know someone to -- Lindsay appropriate for the next one. And the opinion is that they'll never be peace -- and anybody that thinks that it it's a pipe dream in the living in fantasy land. And the reason. To connect that the United States has solid shelter -- strong. And that technology is better than anyone else's and that's the only thing that's gonna keep us -- Not appeasement. And all the -- worst of all all the baloney and that's why you know there's many reasons but that's the biggest reason as a veteran myself. This week I don't see the United States being defended by Barack Obama for the enemies of tomorrow. So is there any thing that Barack Obama could do you know he's had to flee as a change of party had a change of heart about Guantanamo if anything can do to rescue -- vote. Well Abby lets put it this way and even resigning as I can make me happy because. If you want to reside today we have that other object as president. And believe me I'd rather have Barack Obama then I checked you know Joseph missed remote. To be the present United States. So I don't think there's anything you can do to satisfy me what he's already proven himself of what he is he's a super liberal. Once we leave this country in a whole direction and down socialism. And that's not what this country is made -- and the other thing is is is that you know. That depict -- -- to Friday. That's still has to work and the twenties but thirty or forty or fifty years. This guy is not gonna bring jobs to the united says. Everything that he's done has failed to improve the economy let's say that OK well let's see 5% -- get to -- where when he took off up. Unemployment is higher than it was when he took off -- okay. He's up there and -- by every stretch of the imagination. By every yardstick that you could -- to help in the bottom line is you know -- candidate Barack Obama nice try eight you know. We wish you a lot of locked in the future. But it's time for a new captain of the ship there. Russ thank you -- -- -- 774694322. Regime to be generating some emotion which is good. The let's see from from five away text message by which -- you can enjoy it 68680. -- 617. Vets for Romney because Obama is a Communist. From 207 veterans loved this country we all live in but yet Obama apologizes. For everything we as Americans do. Yeah I think that's something to that to me is is initial. Is that he's encouraged knocked down off a little bit but initially went around the world apologizing for America as if somehow his. His personality. And here is apologetic. Demeanor and -- trying to come across as well in different thing out. Middle name as you've seen and I've got. Islam in my background and were sorry for all the things -- that was gonna bring everybody to the table were all gonna feel better about America. I have a feeling that their for a number people myself included were negotiated by that the use the word of the day. Let's see from 802. Yet you lost me at rhetorically proximate. -- love. Now get to admit this told referring to Hayes would have apologized few hours earlier -- rigor and empathy weren't on the learned to do were today calendar. Until yesterday. The it would what that's a reference to is in the original offending remarks from Hayes and NB MSNBC. He said I feel uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to -- that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications. For more war. -- -- -- Rhetorically proximate. And 98774694322. Upon them repeating your next on the program good afternoon. Good afternoon -- thanks for taking my call it is. The veterans are so much in favor of Romney from a couple reasons and some part of the state by previous callers. But. Veterans that are around that they've been in the service they've met people from all walks of life. They've been around around the country a little bit maybe around the world and that you know how to spot a Foley and a fraud. And Obama is only an affront. And they're not gonna vote for. Plain and simple. Now you say is a phony and a fraud what makes him phony and a fraud. He says one thing and does another. He promised one thing and on another he. Said that he would have the unemployment rate -- below 6%. In kid time. Hasn't happened it's been above 8% for over. Isn't an outside -- she promised she would never go above 8% rumor. I I do remember that it just slipped my mind temporarily. Now it's just 2%. And that's the official unemployment rate unofficially it's more like sixteen or 17%. I'm out in the business world and the economy is in rags and tatters the -- don't blame Obama. I've played him for not fixing that he said he would accept. And that was -- he was elected -- he knew what to do and how to do it and it hasn't worked. These spending spending spending policies have put us in the -- Peter you know the only problem is we didn't spend enough. Who writes -- under way out of a out of bankruptcy. As far as the men -- goes on MSNBC. I wouldn't worry too much about it -- probably. Eighteen and nineteen people groups say that around the country the they're reading and you know in these in the minus level. Well bush has got a lot of attention because not resent it he got a lot of play. Mean you're right I don't watch MSNBC and I don't pay attention Chris -- in his rhetorical proximity whatever. But you know I heard about it me and talk about who we got a lot of attention enough attention by the -- actually apologize. You know at least for a. Oracle rhetorical proximity. To a Orwell wrote. But 111. Real names are not ones stated games won always resorts to flowery and obscure language and the area haven't. It's very good and I don't know that quote for war world even if he didn't say it Peter you said that you get credit for that. Do you every do you believe Chris -- is genuine with -- his apology. And okay thanks for call 8774694322. Days the phone number. That -- from seven -- line -- do you think Chris Hayes heroes our Elizabeth Warren perhaps. You think maybe along the same lines. If you're just joining us in afternoon. This is Donnie Nelson in for Howie Carr who was off this week. And at the phone number however remains the same 8774694322. And I'll mention again for voice sounds a little bit husky well I apologize. Then. Little bit of a cold the we will try to jump through. And hope you'll join in the conversation anyway. The text message go to CH ABC -- email Jesse Nelson at wrko.com. That take a break sending. Do we go okay we're gonna pay some bills on the unlike some agencies we know we'll be back on the other side. -- Nelson this is a rally car program. At a welcome back to you. Happy day after Memorial Day I guess summer's officially underway and that now officially a meteorological. Event. The psychologically restart now weeks -- early Leander. If you're just joining us good afternoon. This is obvious and in for Howie -- always off this week the following numbers 8774694322. That is still -- And the text message code is 6680. Email address a Nelson at WRK dot com. We started the conversation today. Based on a couple of things one is some big puff piece in the New York Times that. Talks about how fierce and firm Obama is as commander in chief. And I think that that in there is also a response to a Gallup poll that was. Published actually. Published may 28. And it's very recent. It. Shows that among veterans and veterans account for 13% of the population. Romney leads Obama 5834%. Militant huge margin right. To 24 point differential. Among non veterans. Obama leads Romney 4844. And among the populace as a whole it comes out to be 4646. To Obama she's she's got a problem with veterans. And he's trying to do something about it. And the question we have on the docket for this first hour is. Why is it. That Obama is held in such low esteem by the veterans after all the man he's running against -- though like John McCain who shall it was a war hero. Sacrificed his body for years and in. North Vietnam prison camp. Yeah Romney never served missiles never served in -- and clear. Choice made by the veterans than your thoughts on this are welcome. Let's see. Where does some. Couple of interest in text message of this confine them sometimes they come in so quickly that they. They slip away here's one from 978. Because -- loves America the way it was founded the president loves it the way he thinks it should be. -- -- wants a reconstructed. Interesting point. And from 603. Because we defended the constitution. And he doesn't seem to believe in it. Aside from an army that. Not -- very. Cogent compelling text messages. 8774694322. Let's go back to the telephone lines will your next on the program good afternoon. And -- don't mind well -- lol. I -- a combat veteran -- -- the navy corpsman third battalion third Marines. We are sheer production corpsman not corpse -- Yeah yeah but those kind of funny -- or Smith added that it corpsman right. I'm I think really a look at here is why people vote for Obama most people vote vote for him because they want something I mean you can argue that but. In general people vote that way because they want something an option. They'll look at veterans veterans. Generally serve. So set the place. Not looking for anything I mean we get benefits welcome -- we're happy to get them but that's not why we -- so in general. I mean why would a group of people that. Put themselves and you know put their country importance -- vote for somebody who's offering them benefits at the detriment of their country. He found myself thinking will he speak to make a change in point is I don't know the numbers on. The veterans voting results in -- wait. Leverage. How veterans voted for Obama first time through when he was marketing himself for hope and change at all. You know. I can tell you when you know what Obama got it. I wasn't devastated or destroyed or hurt by it I I voted for McCain but I kind of thought to myself well you know maybe. Maybe this is what we need may be the only Youngblood get in there and it'll handle things the way -- what we need. And what you are now now you've had three and a half years to move to serve what do you think. I do the first two weeks I had made a mistake and that assumption. Yeah. This guy he's offering offering up parlor tricks. Every time he gets up on Stater -- camera he's offering to take away from rich people ordered to get support people and we just understand that you know nothing in the history. It all comes. Let me get a little will look what's interesting here will -- your -- savvy guy I think guys in the military and okay you were taken completely by him but do if you if you say when he got elected OK we'll give -- -- shot. And you'll notice what's happened here he's he's very good at marketing himself and there are a lot of people who were taken -- first by the hope and change. And well I -- -- something else because it's roughly a dead heat in terms of the campaign. So it shows you the stricken market things well and get people's votes. And end up getting elected even though what you have to offer. It's not perhaps the best for the country and. I think that's the problem is people look at what's best for them and their specific instance. You know I mean I'm underwater on my mortgage. I I live paycheck to paycheck where white. Works at a Wendy's she's eight months pregnant she walks both ways to work two miles. I don't -- Wear tight but I don't expect my neighbor to give me -- thing that I am under no delusion. That money that's given to me your perspective -- given to -- it doesn't come out what else -- pocket. And you are skeptical when you hear people promising to make it that you can do you can get by by a sort of robbing from your neighbor -- Of course. Won't just got to boy -- to farce. Right well thank you for pre show respect and good luck by the way good luck. 8774694322. Was a phone number. You know to wills point but look what Obama's been doing recently running around the countryside speaking to college campuses. And what does he say -- to the to the college students there and says I wanna keep your interest -- low it's already below what you get in the marketplace. He wants a cut in half. And win every says that all the students applaud yay more for me. You don't want to go to college go to college scheduler more money. But they think it's perfectly okay. If a whole bunch of other people who didn't go to college to most people down. It's okay. If those people who are gonna earn less than the college graduates have to fork over some money so that the college graduates or gore and earn more. Have a reduce. Lauren -- And it works he stands up there and gets lodged. Overtly buying votes with this Robin Hood mentality justice will was referring to. 8774694322. Sky connection the program good afternoon. Hello. Scott. It's got there Scott and I got them into the name wrong. OK too late instead we will go to bad then good afternoon UN next on the program. -- That's sounds like you're beating your phone into submission. -- are there. Any and we were we can't we can't stay with that he was being -- into submission of -- right then and it was it was a bad connection Levy was naming you said that. Will we do have actually had 87746943. Due to there's a phone number text message code 68680. Bill you're an actual program good afternoon. Mike call these are everywhere Chris Hayes said was really not. -- not not not. Out of contents okay. What he said woods he. Well everybody couldn't say what they want what they can thank god and and analyzes. Is is what he said but. Might take -- is that everybody's view that puts on a uniform as a symbol that everybody. Put -- and Obama -- was. Yet. Okay and dignity you know you can you can you can take away do other things as. You're hitting the military that newly elected Obama. President Barack Obama -- president and my presence. Okay but now it put -- -- nine years OK and I did not five not war but not okay now but think about it this is that. The military as -- people Democrats okay. That's because the Republicans are hot dish okay. That they ought to is okay and -- don't -- military spending. They always -- awfully well. But I -- that now mister Dwight. Okay what the projected to. To this show. 22 to put this. And that stand. You know it's as bad that the cut is is. Acosta -- Canceled a little bit and it sounded good to adopt yeah. The equipment with Obama I. -- Your marginally coherently I get pieces of the phrase that seemed puzzled together but a lot of them I'm not sure. You managed to bring action hero although he did talk. Because he was a good president. And -- and that anyway. I understand that bill but I don't know how he figures into this discussion. If we did talk about the military industrial complex -- political back to the beginning which you say it's hard to keep up with when we go with this. But Chris Shays was talk about the war dead he wasn't just talking about people who serve you made it sound like. He may he made a comment that not everybody who puts on the uniform as a hero. He was talked among people who had died in that uniform. And you know something bill that there are just ways of trying to make a point and on Memorial Day when you pick on the people who've sacrificed. Their lives so that people like Chris Hayes can have a microphone. In improbable on and say whatever he wants. Because there -- people in graves somewhere at the start pursing words and saying gee you know it's. Rhetorically proximate. To having more war at -- and let's just. Utter nonsense as well as insensitive. You know it is the people who die because soon they were shot or blown up by a bomb. They weren't advocating for more war they were -- about. Rhetorical. Proximate to this that the other thing it was just a clumsy. Vulgar. Inappropriate state. And if you don't get that the in this something very wrong. And ask for the military. Police say the these -- favour of you make sound that their favor of more military spending. I must say Romney recently just. Issued via -- speech in and made the statement that he was determined to make 7UP military spending. That the United States will be the strongest military force in the world. Well I'm not a veteran but I applaud that I want us to be the strongest force in the world that's the best way to prevent wars. I think we should move good bills that Christian it's 877469. 4322 do we yesterday of phone calls or -- we take great -- with -- phone. Bruno your next on the program good afternoon. I don't the -- -- quick thing lotteries a lot of veterans don't like. This president. First ball it goes back with a lot of little things -- go back with her on. Was right before the elections. We've only heard the comment. For the first time in my life I'm proud of my country -- -- from the president from the First Lady that really stings to all the people who protected the country. For 200 plus here's number two when you watch this gentleman get off of Marine One helicopter. Just watch how he treats that young Marines standing up for that the steps now once we make eye contact let them. You know once -- -- and looked at him and think you're a war you figure think north bishop and standing at the different that it took a -- all the time but if you watch you'll watch how orderly and well you know meaningless they treat him that number two number pretty. When the the -- here which is the health care plan for -- that your military. When they just announced the change is being announcer active and retired. Military it will currency increases in the coal pays the increases -- cost but there was one group -- one and receive increases. And that was the unionized civilian workforce of the department defense. Zero increase at them they sit behind desks. Which paperwork but yet the actual pushing them both so the machine guns they have to pay more. Those three things you know are reasons why the veterans and those -- do not like you know this president. Together if you are -- a few people in uniform who are spending their days with in hot tub in Las Vegas with wine glasses on the counter right. Well look they can thank you for the call now we have to pay we do take a break right OK somebody else in this is now we car program.