Michael Patrick Leahy on Pow Wow Chow

It's a it's a big day we got those recipes in -- from from the from from power while -- Should you gotta keep your call you call our judges shouldn't call him or right or you make may be a call Yuba. We're gonna have Michael Patrick Leahy on from from bright part pot cause he got us via. He got us the pictures last month pictures of recipes last night but that -- our story work. This would reduce the story gets more more interest and by the by the day and if it's is truly amazing too that that. So much is this a story is being it is is being fuel by by amateur. Genealogy it's. You know. BC this is in that you OBB the globe. The global is is were has run away from the story the only thing they published until like correction the other day it was a a it was stories. You know basically wing and at making it up piping at that achieve that issue is that the the dispute was settled she had this document the -- she was 132. Cherokee the document didn't exist but. What it was -- globe care and they wrote editorials saying. Should put all the should brought all the questions to rest with this document which. Didn't exist. They find it -- correction the MD the new England historic geological society had to war at the back track they were how well I think there were more victims than they were victims of the idea of the globes. I'm in that city in this reporting the story so now what now it turns out that you know she's almost set I never claim to be a Cherokee and I don't know where they got this I was Cherokee. Even though we found out yesterday that before tomorrow we're -- quoting Harvard law spokesman. Was just saying that she was the first woman of color in the -- In that Harvard law hired now we find out that it as early as 1984. She was claiming. To be at Cherokee in the scope it and he -- would -- the city this woman I mean the the complete the reason. Reason us. For. Defense meet with which she's first called out on it she's she cites this this document. That marriage license application which doesn't exist. And her second piece of evidence. Is that her cousin. Wrote this court. Or edited this cookbook called -- watch now. And we didn't know until until Michael Patrick Leahy order gaga ordered one of cookbooks from four from Amazon.com. That she was actually a contributor. -- -- And we've got Michael Patrick Leahy joining us now and is as we continue the are slog by amateur geologist. CSI here. -- -- -- that brought -- a new world and a great time hero Michael I have my idea I have a new development. I almost all via it's I have a new development to report today I it's a sensual area. The central recipe that -- one that another one of or amateur geologist discovered on the Internet today and it. Yet more striking. Resemblance to the -- Tomatoes recipe on the Internet bore a striking resemblance IE word for word to the recipe in power Welch well. Well we have a whole series of very for the investigation here towards the amateur geologist -- CSI. Blue team that's part of being held every car radio program to all of your closest to participate. Yeah it's yeah yeah whatever you whatever you're -- that I have a feeling that tonight the actually want my idea what we're mighty friends -- found this and he he he asked me to send him all the recipes and in the book all the ones even the ones that didn't make it in the paper today. And -- he he only had time during his lunch hour to check one and he immediately turned up by turned up an exact recipe on the Internet I've appeal and have a feeling he's gonna turn up a few more this evening if if -- at the battle on about Michael but this is this is very interesting now this this new thing and thank you very much on behalf of The Herald and all of our readers in the voters of Massachusetts as well. Former four for helping us out last night with those those recipes I mean the the the art made made the whole package work. And we really appreciated and thank you why I. You're very welcome and and by the way I don't know if you saw this but now Drudge. Is leaking to the Boston Herald story let's go Palo -- bustle let's go. To. If Cabrera and April linked to -- ideology to Turkey to Danielle was just telling her that villagers. -- -- -- You'll you know the thing is I mean what is this then what does this mean that now before she said that does she had never claimed to be a should never claimed to be a Cherokee that she never she you know if you knew it was 132 but should never used that anywhere and now it turns out that book going back tonight to this this the power -- Chuck Cook book came out in 1984. And they are at least five recipes in there with her identified as -- as Elizabeth Warren Cherokee. Well again I'm not an attorney I'm only an amateur -- -- -- -- cut back -- but the other. The title page which by the way anybody in your audience can go to the Boston Herald story on the front page and click on the image that's you and the first images this is the title page from the power child's cookbook. And what did to help here's how would describe it. And I'm gonna quote exactly. Quote. A collection of recipes. From families of the five civilized -- stuff. It's still don't know that the Larry O'Brien yeah the very front. As you know Turkey -- aside chalked up and Seminole so. Then we go to the attribution that ms. Warren uses 405 recipes. And it clearly says. Elizabeth Warren. Type in Cherokee. So it's stands to reason that this is actually probably her first. Public claim. Of native American Cherokee ancestry in 1984. And audibly enough Michael Patrick -- this about the -- amber or law legal. Your career in law school academia took off. But it is a coincidence I would say this is -- we might wanna listen these the assistance all the -- In the Howie Carr's radio audiences will be part of this amateur geologist he has so I effort research team. They also said later on and another page it says that these -- this is a compilation of special recipes passed down through the five pride spam east watch all right. I'm gonna guess it has -- I guess what this means is that the the bit when I found that -- will be -- much different from the rest be on the Internet. They must've stolen it from the pal while -- cookbook -- -- -- set up our ability but how would. Or perhaps it was lifted from somebody else earlier and. Well now to know we're going into the area of speculation. And then we went -- followers standards did you go hard evidence but we go where the evidence leads to yes I have a new piece of evidence to break on your program now I'll say yes. There was also paid a recipe contribution. From -- to -- power out -- cookbook in 1984. From Elizabeth Warren husband. Bruce man. No he wasn't the well you know he went -- idea of Turkey Christine was I ready yes. Oriental beef stir fry. Cook -- -- can't make this up alleys we're. I wish to be sitting around the campfire -- -- listen -- dead -- two nights this week I want some worry -- beef stir fry tonight. Well you know if you go to break part dot com if you leave the -- just post it. That's bed that you can act includes dusty image and see mr. Bruce man. Elizabeth Warren has been recipe in the power throughout cookbook for Orioles will be. -- -- A key you know -- I was talking -- -- guy -- yet either Republican why no yesterday and he was he was on the TV show the other night -- and he mentioned he says it won't happen -- Republicans had done its. And the Democrats smartly responded. But she's not a Republican. -- that's going to be. That seems to be the only defense she -- you know you can't hold me to the same standards that you hold anybody else and I'm a liberal you can't you know it's it's okay for me to do whatever I wanted though. You know Howie I think we broke this story and -- listeners have followed the the Boston Herald and legal insurrection it's engage in and -- -- security genealogy as we've all sort of been part of this great crowd sourcing to solve this mystery. And the what you know what what I broke on -- -- program the other day last week it seemed like it was like last year but it was only last week. That you know big campaign had claimed to be because the editor of the power chip cookbook was her first cousin that evidence. But for native American ancestry and I would just kind of curious. To see what was in the books so I ordered it from Amazon.com and have arrived yesterday afternoon. And what I was looking for. Was actually confirmation. In this third edition that are custom with the editor there's not any confirmation in in the acknowledgment page. Although her cousin. Is is all over as a contributor. But so I'm leafing through this 300 page look and I am totally -- up. What I see. We'll -- the word cherokees as a contributor. I would never have imagined that. But they don't want. Well it's it's just too good it's I mean -- it's again it's like shooting fish in a barrel to -- and it is it's like there it's it's like this is a game a fun game -- -- seat where bodies on the same team you know and nothing is everybody wins because where are you going to look for something -- there's something else there is every. Well that's part of the story. Because you know what to what I think you're listening audience would be very interested in -- looking into is you know here's the mystery how did. And I haven't researched this in your audience might look at this you know she was -- -- served as. To employed by the University of Texas law school from 1983. To 1987 and started in the 81 for part time. That's from from my reading it was not a particularly prestigious position. But I could be wrong. In 1984 -- if she makes his first claim. Cherokee ancestry. And in 1987 to -- a pretty prestigious job. At the University of Pennsylvania law school and that in 1990 should become the -- professors so it it yet again what -- -- -- if she wins they've ever shot earlier conversation when that he bump well you know -- -- all -- hold you know he was the it was all right guys -- work they are raised by that raised by the Indians. -- it's hard today. Other than to say this is a very interest in fact there. That you know be I would love to hear from your listeners. If they find any evidence. Now we again -- I don't know you know I think that I think of the the the real smoking guns here I mean she's gonna try to she's just gonna try to war 822. You know. Change the subject you know -- JPMorgan. You know Scott Brown you know it's a bad man he he had it he he drove car after having a sip of his truck after having a sip of beer to craft will mean this the kind of that this kind of issues they're raising. And somebody just -- the text Mike they said you'll realize it won't matter in Massachusetts in the conservatives will be called bullies for us. Why you know I think there's there's something to that but you don't. This is you know the conservatives didn't bring this up this site she's -- she's created this whole playing in the and she's she's never fessed up she should have fessed up the first. That that best bet that the part of this it is peacemaking terrible terrible strategic here. -- just now ABC news reported just a few minutes ago that -- campaign spokesperson. What had no comment on this story. You know. God can have a cup I think here's what I suspect is the concern. If she dresses up as he should then then the next question yes. Ms. Warren when did you first make this claim but to whom did you make it. And what the what due diligence that they undertake. And as we've seen in the mainstream media the folks at Boston Globe. New York Times. They will really spin the paper trail to expect it to give you a story but if we look back. This is where you're listening audience could help us and you would we go back and we look. At the paper trail what is the true discoverable. Paper trail of those applications. For employment at the University of Pennsylvania in 1987. And then later at Harvard. And that's what I look for evidence. That it may not be consistent with her current story. You don't know a thing it was VO and -- rather ironic again can given -- a great though liberal -- so called credentials and you know she's the supplied the intellectual foundations of the Occupy Movement went everywhere asking campaign speech did she use they're the race card the affirmative action -- card. Two way to get ahead here they they always get all -- in the sake she worked hard. What are used as. What was is are you saying then that if you get a job through affirmative action you didn't work hard I mean this this kind of stuff when a Republican says that. Again -- was accused of racism. Well they're big you know listing -- this is the gift that keeps on giving and it being given to us. Every day by the war -- campaign and I am so grateful for their cooperation. Yeah they are they they are giving it to us and -- you know anyone -- anyone -- as any not anyone was any knowledge if you if you know if -- Harvard if you -- you know you -- you you went to Harvard law or or or you -- staffer at Harvard law -- you might you might have some kind of old documents from Harvard Law School -- you know welcome our new faculty and in the -- was at 1990 and 96 that -- start it's of the. You know the interesting thing is you know what person who may have some answers is now employed by Babson college and and Michael true -- -- the news director at Harvard law in 1996. And he publicly stated in an interview with the Harvard Crimson. In 1996. That she was. Native American ancestry and he also publicly stated that in an interview that he gave to affordable -- view. He gave that interview in August 1996. And he said that she was a woman of color. -- so the question for mr. Chamorro who by the way apparently is not answering phone calls Tuesday. And -- -- that can cause is just thrilled that -- commit their communications to pick up. I I live near Babson College GI I'm gonna you know today he is not been seen these visa. He's gonna it would have to put his picture on a milk carton if you don't. You tell us how he did a fantastic job by inviting the folks from -- New England Historic Genealogical Society to pure leadership role. You gave them an opportunity tell their story and the truth emerged from that story. -- -- I wrote a piece the other day which basically said. You know the -- -- correction. Need to correction. Because they did not honestly describe the process by which. -- First wrote that story I think our will be -- is it supports Chris Charles statement. That he in fact did tell the Boston Globe on April 30 that his source document. What they 2006 newsletter from England and he gave them a copy of it. And the global referred to it as a record. Falsely giving the impression to everyone that it was a contemporaneous. 1890s. But official government to document which you will not. And then in the correction they made it seem like the document that they made it appear that the document might still exist but the but the globe that the globe -- the neither the globe nor the historical association had been able to find the document. When in fact there was -- document because they didn't stop but they didn't start making them until 1887. At least. They're about correction could could -- be blatant inaccuracies in the Boston Globe reporter -- -- -- and broke the story first new well that it was a -- inaccuracy. It implies that there were other primary documents that's not true I discovered the primary documents. And I posted them online the primary documents are a marriage license for 1894. And a certificate of marriage from -- before the county clerk or clerk there and Logan county of almost confirmed that there were no. There's license applications -- in 1994 so you know the full story just becomes curiouser. And curiouser. And again if anybody's got any tips where you know we're -- world was Avaya we you know world was around and you know just a -- send them along and I give him to a different to me wherever whichever way you want to. And hour or two Guam Mike and Mike's -- bright part dot com he's got -- stories up there and it's just the there's this great story and a new story a bright part about the about Bruce Schmidt chief man. And as a mr. Elizabeth Warren -- man's fame famous Indian recipe for oriental beat store for a. Yes you know you'd fit if you just can't make this stuff up Alec. No you can't he can't okay. Mike I said two out idea I should too loudly -- -- I -- my books today a couple of copies of The Herald limit in the new the new T shirt for -- sportswear. Wear proudly. Were probably I will probably. Yeah and Bob in the blocked by the way there is a it's called hit man and error there's there's a gang war from the early seventies. And it involves -- two guys who -- -- game got wiped out by the winter hill went by the winter hill gang. They were they were named Indian Joseph and Indian now and they -- the Cherokee. Then they were Italians but I got in other words that -- as Indiana's. As Elizabeth Warren it's. So -- well you know ready I suspect -- that we will have plenty of other opportunities to work with all of these. Sleuths in your audience it's an amateur geologist signified attractive -- Three down and feel free and feel free if you want to if if you've got to -- in front a year you wanna check the checked the recipes that their home or of their on the web two now -- just checked the recipes out there and if you wanna be if you wanna be our guys to leave us to the punch and get the rest to get the the fake the the plagiarize plagiarize recipes if you could I don't know if you can plagiarize -- BC at least that you can -- -- I'm not sure you know something like -- is it is rather humor. And she read the instructions for the Betty Crocker cook off and you tell me if you can plagiarize or what is its place. It says that. Just line. And it's no longer plagiarize if nothing is often her and she copy it is to plagiarism what was popping off on and there's nothing all tomatoes it's it's all it's totally the same breakdown of. The F -- as you suggest may be big fat free recipe it was taken from the -- from 1984 arrests. It's rated as the famous -- -- -- when it's -- right now it's probably -- one of the most famous cook -- in America. I think of it but for this week it probably is okay Michael -- thanks for being with us we appreciate it -- keep in -- and let's keep working together and keep working together -- as. Well -- 18774694322. Jerky nation doesn't now know. While Barnes the the -- genealogy pointed out it was yesterday she was somewhat miffed by that. Mean it's. It just it just. Goalies it seemed. Like the throw around words like aces to quarrel is going to be by the way is gone around the world so I mean everybody since it picked it up. And on the website to separate barracks and blow it. I think tomorrow's hearing about it. That's -- -- guided by the way the Boston Globe welcome to as well. 1877469432. To welcome it will come back at some -- on this matter as the the copper up continues. --