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For the final weekend of our seventh year in my -- next week starts you're number eight. Very hard to believe considering my son is a and -- went to his first meeting today so that's a little respect prosecuting little perspective for you and tonight let's start let's just. Jump right into it in the -- it's not waste anymore time who's on the line with us is quite an honor to have a New York Times best selling author but also. Someone who for years and years has been in the stalwart leader in the conservative. Community whose name is Bob Tyrell. You know him as the founder and editor of the American spectator. And he's an author of a new book. The death of liberalism and it's really our pleasure to -- -- WRKO Boston and they haven't spent part of his Sunday afternoon with us tonight. But thanks for joining us. Well welcome to the state did so recently. You talk about the death of liberalism in the book -- your. Talking to the state -- so recently this week. Savagely attacked and address the pressing national issue of bake sales Bob so while we at the cutting edge of the death of liberalism I believe. Well that's what the liberals always do they always overreach. And they've overreached duck on -- -- -- -- with that banks -- maybe it's the banks there was marijuana. The kids deserve a chance of a healthy life. Well how could they stand by Bob and let kids come in with a new Telus sandwich and a couple little deadbeats. Now it is shocking state of terrorists it's an example of liberalism trying to do not go too far do too much and as a result they commit themselves to ridiculous enterprises. But -- is a guest founder and editor of American spectator the book is the death of liberalism. Above is as good as that sounds too I think a lot of people who listen to WRKO. I look at the at the field as a learning C President Obama in a pretty liberal aggressive agenda he's pushing. I see half the nation paying taxes. I see half the nation getting some kind of assistance in one form or another. And I just don't see the death of liberalism out there -- -- so much government everywhere I turn. Why do you see the death -- liberalism given what I just described. Well they've overreached. And as a matter of fact. Where President Obama -- He's an entirely new kind of leftist. He's not a liberal at all. He is this golf socialist. He's taken over a six of the economy. He is to take it over the automobile industry. With Dodd-Frank he's taken over much of the banking industry. You're right that big that they -- Left has gone too far. But but. Take a careful look at that that doesn't Pat White and better than Joseph Lieberman these people love these -- old fashioned liberals are if these liberals are either in retirement. While there -- -- The new brand is is that Barack Obama and he's gone too far and and as a result. He ignited. -- -- fire under the American conservative. Conservatives out account for as I point out the block I chart every guy's guy about a dozen charts and there. It's steadily. For thirty years conservatism. Has grown talents represents 42% of the American people. Only about eighteen to 20%. Are liberal and that is decrying. I think. That's a significant change in American life. Bob Tyrell is against founder and editor American spectator author of the death of liberalism the phone number here at WRKO and his beautiful mother's day afternoon in Boston. 61726668686172666868. Troll free 877. 469432. To know Bob one thing you do in the book as you go back in union or you go back to the heavily Stephens it Stephenson days. He's going to some some history here. Tell -- -- at least describing your own words because to mean living in Massachusetts I look at you know the Democratic Party today and I see. The difference between the John Kennedy Democrats in the Ted Kennedy Democrats do you have any theories on the difference between the two. Yes. In the book I are right that there were two to civil wars in in the liberalism the first simple civil war took place in 1948. At the end of world war two and Henry Wallace and the radicals. Were thrown out of power they were defeated by. A more sensible brand of liberal. In 1972. After John F Kennedy's death. The -- the radicals. Once again. Struck the Democratic Party -- Democratic Party had another civil war. And in this civil war other radicals want. Under jobs -- George McGovern but more specifically more importantly. You saw the emergence. Of it in infantile laps under Gary Hart. And -- -- -- arrived other infantile leftist ultimately John front -- cavity. Or -- the clintons or Al Gore and -- is that these these people represented in 1960 useful. And they were just they were terribly destructive. To the Democratic Party will. -- -- you talked about than the progressive wing of the Democratic Party verses what we would consider traditional wing of the Democratic Party maybe a Tip O'Neill or. Daniel Patrick morning in Democrat verses a you know a real out there aren't Sam Nunn Democrat vs a real out there on the -- liberal Democrat but isn't that same tennis isn't. Going on with the Republican Party and you went to some pain in the book to. Talk about the GOP congress under bush and called -- the Republicans wilderness years but not conservatives sons. You know when I think that you know how great it would be to get the Democrats out of power it's an awesome idea and so you think that those same people. That's spent like drunken sailors under bush. RS supposed to do the right thing this time meaning. You know the Republican congress so I guess how can you feel so confident about the debt the end of liberalism if we're gonna rely on the people -- Davis of prescription drug benefit to turn things around. Well we aren't are those people have those people are in decline. And you've got people like. Congressional job a congressman Paul Ryan. From Wisconsin you've got. It's for that matter you've got to hold Scott as a delegate. There at the Scott Walker he's going to do he's going to be reelected governor in a matter of weeks. He should be just delivered a surplus to the statements horrible economy. Yeah very good I -- -- it is it's or in part out in the midwest. That they re emergence. Of the Republican Party as a Conservative Party. Is to be seeing and you know -- Cairo -- will hold this there's this secret any longer. Obama. Is facing a catastrophic defeat in the fall I say that black and I'll say it that seriously do. He's behind in all. The key. Battleground states. If you -- here. The the I'm committed. They're undecided voter the undecided voter almost well it doesn't -- -- -- tighter border. I always breaks for the challenger. -- gives. Of Barack Obama a -- defeat by five to 10% or two percentage points throughout the battleground states. He's facing as bad defeat. As Carter faced and 1988 and by the way only a handful of people like they were saying things like that that. But Tyrell editor founder and editor American spectator. Author of the death of liberalism 617266686887746943. Two to Bubba I guess let me let me push back and it's just a little bit because I've had kind of a running. Percentage. As far as my Obama reelection percentage and for the longest time until things clear it up and Republicans had an Omnia said. 75%. For Obama despite his horrible record of performance. One of the biggest reasons. Is how much in the tank the mainstream media is who's going to see him. Reelected we have to look no further than this very week with a ridiculous. Many thousand word story on what -- bully Mitt Romney is fifty years ago. Something that nobody today believes or anybody says that were part of what Mitt Romney is being a bully. What about that fact about -- and you underestimate the impact that the mainstream media -- gonna have won that. The the electorate that doesn't pay attention to politics like you Meehan people who are listening to talk radio. On -- Sunday night. Well -- I'll have very influence. But now. Things are different as they say in the book. We have our own culture out there we have Fox News we have talk radio we of the Internet we can get the word out the word within. Before that peace even hit the street. There were people all over the Internet. Complaining about it and you know. By ten -- 12 -- -- o'clock in the morning out here are more down here in Washington. The word was out that the family of this. Now of this so called victim. They had objected to the portrayal of the young matter now unfortunately it deceased man. Was it was stroke we were projected in a way that. Didn't comport with the truth according to the young man man's family so. I don't. -- the culture smog as I caught the book well will be up factor. But it's a fact it's already it's less of a factor today that it was in years past it'll be less of factor in the future. Let's go to the phones for Bob Tyrrell founder and editor -- American spectator author of the death of liberalism. 6172666868. That's how you reach us. And let's welcome -- of the program and arrests. Good evening heaven and Bob Bob believe me I hope which are right I'm a conservative American that loves this country. But I never underestimate the ignorance of the people would go on vote. Well I tell you this you can. They were certainly is a written in -- -- When they voted for Obama. I mean to think that community activist. That pale resonated become president of the United States it is to serve as shocking. Piece of evidence but. The majority. Again to return to the statistics. 40%. Liberalism is now down to 20%. But the American people it will be down to 1617. They'll be more bird watchers in America than there are liberals believe may. They're being more notice in America than there are. Liberals. -- and of course were up to 42% of the American people claim to be conservatives just like do. Now home very important statistic is and again that's right is it's in the book. 35 to 40% of the American people are independent. And those independents. Are kind of all over the lot except for one. One set of statistics. Any question any reference to the deficit. To budgetary. Overlap. To. Spending -- is that the federal government spending more at the state and local government. Any reference to bat and they are with us 100%. They will be with us and they weren't when he can. In 2012. The they already poll has us and these these conservatives. Plus the independents. Are going to give. Romney and overwhelming. Victory. Problem. You ask you this question. In the event that the Israelis decide to attack ran -- eliminate the nuclear threat. And of course the president has no choice but we have to back up the Israelis and you know with intelligence and and and equipment and everything now. Do you think that that could possibly swayed the election in the president's. I don't think so because. The American people are just panicky about this deficit. And they know. Look at what there's no evidence. That Barack Obama it can do anything different than he's already done. Regulate the economy spend -- vast amount of money. Raise taxes and the American people are stupid they note that that you're that -- can't possibly get. Enough money for his lavish spending. By just taxing the 1% of the 2% or whatever it is they're gonna tax the middle class they're gonna tax the working class. Now they're gonna come up with new taxes. And and -- quite a turn America into Greece if we're not careful. -- -- and I amnesty and Adam you know most conservatives understand that government's stand it. The -- there's a lot of people out in the don't stand. Well. There might be. I I haven't -- the Massachusetts for a year or so. But. I can tell you in Indiana and and and even in Michigan and certainly at Wisconsin. And all idle people are absolutely not to be enormous. Expense that this does this president has cost the American people we are now consuming. 25%. Practically 25%. Of the gross national product. In peacetime that's -- her out generally it's about eighteen to 20%. In peacetime that's -- out and he's got. Is news budgets down the road he's got just as much money spent. Planned to be spent. In mud in the mud in the years ahead is now will -- American people are gonna take it. -- -- totally the American people are gonna take you even his fellow Democrats aren't gonna take it the last two budget he presented to congress. One to the house of one to the senate didn't receive a single vote from any Democrat. Right that's how pathetic that work Bob Tyrell is our guest. -- times bestselling author founder editor the American Spectator Magazine. New book the death of liberalism 6172666868. Toll free 8774694322. Bobby here in Massachusetts tonight. What if I was to CDU that I image Scott Brown Republican. Does that mean that I am part of the problem for the Republican Party how should you deal. Oh yeah absolutely so out. Yeah at first got -- But I mean in general the issue of a northeast Republican. -- what I hear all the time -- right no Republican. How should the party how she conservatives. Bring us into the fold because as you mentioned. There are large numbers of independent people who consider themselves in those polls I would say conservative but not necessarily Republican. Well I think that -- I think -- Scott Brown should get yours or support. But remember this this Tea Party movement is a historical. Moment the conservative talk the conservative coalition. Has steadily gained support. It's -- the evangelicals. Is gained the Reagan Democrats. It's game with neo cons and more recently it's staying the Tea Party people and the most Tea Party people are should be viewed very carefully. There are. Very much like the independence there are terrifically concerned about this deficit. But they're also very much interested in the constitution of the United States there's been kind of reconfiguration. The constitution. And what it means to Americans and what it means to Americans is an entirely different. Way of looking at society of look at that. It's politics. The founding fathers had an entirely different vision. Then does the infantile leftists so the last thirty years or the that the socialist. This style socialist it does today and I think it's big it's so it's it'll be a great thing. If the Tea -- successful. In getting adjusted to return to the constitutional norms of the country's. So I would imagine Bob that you you know you see something like hmm I don't know how many terms senator Dick Lugar get beat in a primary by Tea Party -- It's amazing you know what a mess is that that is that the public is sending to Washington DC and many many terms senator thrown on a primary. By an unknown Tea Party person. And yet I watch it in the media in their of their appalled that one of their friends Dick Lugar could ever be voted out by these rate when neanderthals. Well there are right wing and the -- talking seriously about constitutional process. They can be depicted anyway that the two cultures modified car that can depict does anyway they want the -- -- -- the fact of the matter is. We are the cutting edge. Of a -- awareness of the constitution. Things that really matter American life and I think we're were headed for. A whole generation. Of -- liberalism. And lightly conservatism. Bob Tyrell that's sounds pretty good to me from Boston Massachusetts I have to say. Even a little bit of wounded liberalism around -- would be would be an improvement. -- thanks Bob for spending so much of your Sunday evening with us the book -- death of liberalism. And read more vote more from -- the American spectator but thank you so much for joining us here at WRK -- Boston. Thank you so much Bob Tyrell everyone the death of liberalism is the book and a founder and editor of the American spectator. Lot of great writers at the a spectator website. Do check them out. Bob Tyrell the death of liberalism we'll have this up that under review dot com sometime news tonight tomorrow morning. -- we have. All of our interviews -- so many authors so many books we've read in the -- I was. My dad was scouring through the the bookshelf today at the first communion after party. Into finding yes you. My dad is it staunch Democrats so he didn't he didn't enjoy it a lot of the selection. Nine wasn't it just it say in the Rumsfeld biography for instance but we did find a good book form Yalta. It was a by a professor from Harvard who's played him before you -- in the mean he came in he says right here in the studio talked to us about his book about the Yalta. Conference style and of course and yeah I know Roosevelt. A Harvard professor guy wrote a really interest in books so he left without one obviously got something -- I think I think he's gonna like it since. All right in the -- we should take a commercial break yet let's do it thanks Bob -- for joining us welcome back -- of phone calls radio to this and AM six CD WR you know. It's all subjects. All matters.