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And it and we have. A wonderful topic of course to discuss with him he's written this week but Zach talks. You know Israel. And gay marriage both and gay marriage the the hottest topic. Because it is the topic that the president delved into this week so let's say Heidi just -- Jeffrey welcome back. -- -- -- So I tell us about your outlook on what's transpired this week it's a bit -- very intriguing week. First of all the political old stuff do you view this whole thing as a contrivance that was planned starting with. Joseph Biden's outburst on a Friday morning when he taped his interview with -- with. Which one was -- Meet the Press. I can almost guarantee that it was pre planned. People in the White House basically were saying. The president position was known for awhile. The question was when two announcer. And how to get maximum effect out of and what they did was they sent the vice president. He made a statement saying he strongly backs same sex marriage. And then immediately on Monday. He saw education secretary Arne Duncan he saw other higher ranking members of the Obama cabinet. All of them for suddenly all of all the what -- singing from the same choir. Coming out saying they back same sex marriage. Now the pressure is building. The people in Hollywood who bankrolled the Democratic Party the high rollers in Hollywood. Are now demanding that Obama come out in favor of same sex marriage. Everybody knew that -- -- state North Carolina having major referendum. On amendment one. Which would cement marriage as a constitutional amendment. It does defying traditionally between a man and a woman everybody knew that amendment one was gonna win. And once amendment one. The gay and lesbian lobby went berserk. They were angry they were furious. Pressure continues to build on Obama and then 24 hours. For one of the biggest fundraisers of this early election campaign and George Clooney's house shows. Suddenly the president comes out and says. What do you know we're talking about bad manner earlier this. He supports same sex marriage the money I gotta tell you guys the money is now pouring him. They've played this perfectly. They played the the American public I believe they've played big gay and lesbian community like a fiddle. He's now raised my sources are telling means. That you race nor the fifteen million dollars last night with George courting. He's been created by all the -- only he's being feted by in New York Times he's being feted by the liberal leave. There are now comparing him to Martin Luther King they're now playing at -- more principled stand. -- sack but does it doesn't all have a downside went Hollywood that times. Are -- god. That's a good chunk of the public say this is exactly what's wrong what the country at the end. See kind of that the would describe that he would Jeff does kind of the phony ness of the evolution. That he's been very -- it's obvious to anybody. That he's been in favor of gay marriage but a little. A little hesitant for whatever political calculation now he's made the decision it is public it was obvious. This got to be a downside to this Hollywood embrace most people are repulsed by Hollywood. Tom union held I think they fundamentally miscalculated. I noticed is very popular liberal priest thinks it's popular in New York it's popular Washington's popular in Beverly -- It is not popular middle America. And in particular. You look at the results in North Carolina. Sixty to forty again came out and vote this 31 state. The process amendment defining marriage between a man and a woman with the media is not reporting. Is that that effort was spearheaded. By black pastors. Black churches. The black community. You look at proposition eight in California. The only reason why it won was because of the Hispanic and the black vote. And I believe what Obama has done is I think he's kissed away key swing states like North Carolina. Virginia. Ohio. Wisconsin. And more than that he is now on a collision course. With key segments of its -- Yes African Americans and Hispanics traditionally vote for the Democratic Party but they're also extremely socially -- -- have you are thank Hispanics are gonna put for example. Gay marriage ahead in their decision making over immigration issues. Knowing many of them are gonna vote still for the Democrats on immigration but it's going to hurt them it's gonna hurt Democrats with a lot of traditionalist Hispanics. Catholic Hispanics. And very devout Christian black its gonna depress the vote. It's gonna be more like the vote but I can tell you guys -- with absolute certainty. I spent a lot of time in Washington DC mentoring young African American teenagers -- college students I know the black community in Washington. It is representative of the black community in America which I believe it is. They do not like gay marriage. They are very traditional social issues but in particular. They do not like homosexual marriage. Black leaders are against it the black churches are against that the black pastors are against the I believe he made a fatal mistake I wanna make history books are written. About why Obama finally went down to defeat in November yes the economy will be a major part but he made two fundamental miscalculation. One with the contraceptive mandate. And two I believe -- the publicly come out with the most radical definition or redefinition of marriage we have. Ever seen -- gonna -- this from The Washington Times NW RQ why would they make that kind of miscalculation these guys all they do was sit around and look at poll numbers and then make decisions for policy. Based on poll numbers based on the politics so why why would they have miscalculated something is serious business. I think the way -- look first of all that this thing about Obama when you see him in person assistance is hard to explain this. You can actually arrogant man. He literally I think people leases -- -- equipment. And so he has this sense about him that he can do almost anything and there will be no consequences. I think he's the victim of its own hubris. Did you hear about the -- Russia's -- -- say they did a little impersonation of him. And it was he was coming out for self marriage. If we're back at left out of to -- -- he good -- feet deep dark fit that he's infatuated with themselves. But I also think they're calculation is that. That the African American community and the Hispanic community will not abandon Obama. So let me placate the gay and lesbian lobby which is very powerful Democratic Party let me open up -- checkbooks and all -- word. Which Obama means. And you think now he -- galvanize every aspect that debate. In which you could only do on such a risky level if you -- in trouble -- -- hold on one minute we wanted to hear more about this but we got to take a little break. It's Thomas Todd WR -- -- just good -- for The Washington Times for areas. Friday visit. Sorry had to cut you off short there Jeff he did you give us a lot of insight and analysis on the outcome of the gay marriage issues that have emerged and what might be you know. A fatal but certainly a faithful but today even maybe a fatal decision on the up -- on the part of the president. Help us -- understand what's going on in Israel Todd and I talked a little bit about it early this morning. Netanyahu reaches out. To the to the other body they come in seems to be forming a national unity almost an emergency government. Probably based upon we think semi anticipatory action. Recall revolving around Iraq what's going on over there. I have to be careful how I characterize -- but let me just say this. High ranking senior military intelligence officials in Israel. -- basically confirmed to me that Netanyahu has made a decision over the next three to four months. To bomb Iran he believes that now is that time to do it he wants to maximum coalition government in national unity government. The reason is simple he doesn't want to be -- in the middle of an election campaign. When he thinks is the time to do of the Israeli Air Force the idea. The court it. To bomb Iran installations and the reason why he believes that this autumn at the time to do it is that we will be embroiled in an election campaign. Obama cannot alienate the Jewish vote. He will not be able to criticize Israel publicly as he's been doing so privately. Obama will have no leverage or very little leverage over Netanyahu in Israel. What a fascinating. Analysis -- idea that the president would be stuck in wouldn't be able to be as normal. Hostile to Israel self Jeff I guess I got -- because Todd night as we talk about this privately off the that we think OK the president's doing everything he can't to box. Netanyahu. And Netanyahu is playing chess here and says okay I see the box for trying to Barack Obama. His his his the box that I have now you're gonna play in this play -- Exactly now with the Communist that's exactly what's going on he -- September is the maximum time to do it it will give him at least several weeks. To implement the operation. The Israelis know it's a high risk operation. They do believe though that there's still time. To destroy Iran's nuclear program. To prevent them from reaching the point of no return. They have satellite information. They have spies on the ground they have spies all over Iran. Many of them in fact that infiltrated the government. They have been targeting their nuclear scientist. They have been waging. Computer warfare. Trying to shut down that program by unleashing virus after virus. They now believe that over the next six months. He wrong will acquired the capability in the capacity. To develop a nuclear weapon. And for Israel they are convinced -- I think they're right that the Hitler or part time. If he should get a nuclear -- will use it and drop it on Israel and he will wipe the Jews off the face of the year. So for Israel they are an existential state. For them this is all or nothing you'll see I think in major Middle East War I think Q1 is gonna retaliate. They're gonna close the straits of Hormuz. They're gonna unleash a -- They're gonna unleash Hezbollah. I believe even the Muslim Brotherhood may get involved you'll see it all out regional war. And gas prices are gonna go through rule. Which way that switch back stateside and how 'cause I've I've I give from that premise what you just laid out -- and I've talked about this before as well. I argue that that guarantees Obama's reelection because the American people will not. Change losses in the middle of what will inevitably become. -- up by a war for us as well. If I mean I wrote a call about this a couple of months ago Obama may be planning an October surprise and I think if he does -- But may win in the reelection if he decides to join Israel. And bombing wrong start in September oh sure. Then I think the American people will rally them and that may put him over the top yeah. The sense I'm getting it though or Obama does not wanna get involved in another Middle East War. Privately he despises Netanyahu. He's not sympathetic to the Israelis. He is sympathetic to the Arab Muslim -- he thinks that the Israelis are jumping the gun on Iran in fact in his -- apart -- like that contain Iran. Not a bomb Iran. I think he's going to be powerless. I think is going to be paralyzed. I think you'll see another Jimmy Carter with the Middle East going up in smoke and the president did and it got out that. Then I believe you law it will cost of the election. Yeah it's it's hard do imagined that how that scenario plays us to talk about a meltdown in the Middle East does everybody had a ball and then don't. We have to get involved just because of the dynamics of our relationship with -- Israel. And the fact that -- Israel has no allies in all the surrounding countries does that involve us automatically. I think it'll involve -- in this cents. That will provide Israel with diplomatic assistance what do you plan we may even provide them with military assistance in terms of selling them weapons. Or providing them with weapons. I don't know if Obama and his joint chiefs of stop and his national security. Bolton most of whom are anti Israel. Who don't like the Jewish state sympathize with the Palestinians. Have an anti war agenda. I don't think they want to see the United States unleash its military. In any conflict in the Middle East. So I think what a lot of the regional players are gonna do is they're gonna stand I think the European it is I think you know what. We'll try to contain that hopefully Israel -- back a couple of weeks. And like he Israel Lebanon war I mean will be a lot of chatter will be a lot of discussion. Will be a lot of diplomacy and back and forward. But I don't think Obama in -- in me and he may lose -- -- And not order the US military to intervene on behalf of Israel. If if he takes his reelection is at stake and he has to invade in order yeah reelect her become involved in some way whether we you know we were using jets or whatever. I mean look -- you know it's it's it's it's it's it's a political calculation you don't know what's gonna happen look if he's Smart politically. We're just talking about morality were talking politically. He should definitely -- in the US military and hammer you wrong I think it'll winnable election. The problem is this goes against every instinct that he he's an academic leftists. The Palestinian cause the Arab cause the Muslim caught. Is at the center of his being he he started off his presidency with a major speech to Cairo. But doesn't his behavior is present in the K whatever ideology he holds and everybody loves debating it all get -- display is just -- indebted to the pursuit of reelect like doctor miles away from his concerns over reelection. No you're right but if you -- everything he's done has never come with a real political risk you know I'm guessing sex marriage -- May backfire. But when you go to war. This is his entire legacy. This is something that could get out of control that's true this ego there about who what when Ted Sargent -- and nobody even more than that you have Hezbollah so -- penetrated our southern border. Now god forbid if we go to war with he wrong you can see bombs blowing up here in the United States in fact -- damage -- -- openly warned. -- American public official and through back channels that if the United States the taxi wrong. The war will -- to the American home front I don't believe Obama as the Obama. To be able to confront that's the wild card. While I certainly understand our Jeff Coen are always great to talk with -- good call on this has always good stuff anti Israel and if we're lucky he'll join us again next week. Have a great weekend Jeff. He's of course is already talking coach is in -- was -- it -- -- this we have trouble getting funny Gerri as proxy processor Antarctica at. All right so the next half hour if we have a whole half hour we can launch a new topic when it.

