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Wed, 2 May 2012|

President Obama's trip to and speech from Afghanistan had much more to do with politics than substance. Seven thousand miles, one way, to share war remarks with countrymen that he should have and could have shared back home. Despite the administration's best backgrounding sales efforts, the document he signed with Afghan President Hamid Karzai is a meaningless basic agreement to talk later about forging a real agreement. Guest host Col. Hunt asked was the President grandstanding yet again.

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Last night was supposed to be surprised. But. We talked about this Monday weathered the present -- stage where is polarizing politicizing. The killing of bin Laden a year ago yesterday. Present -- stage flew into Bagram air base. And spoke to soldiers. And gave me -- I gave a speech short speech from Bagram air base. To it to thirteen house fly -- was secret exit. And he made some it's serious. Strategic commitment by the way signed an agreement with Karzai and president lost ten years of Afghanistan. Basically the agreement that says. We agreed to have a meeting about further agreements that it -- had the big deal. Here's -- me what the big -- which we think about this his present our states. Why is India a country that we've been in that war with a ten years. Into an airport area that we support to be secure. We had -- -- to black it out. To stick to cobble it'll all pop has said it's about Iraq instead of Afghanistan when you can't land a land VIP at your airport. And drive to your embassy were you wanna go you don't have controlled country you know it is you want are winning or losing you got trouble. The president without much security has to go around the president that my point is that -- Berry -- dangerous country. And one of the highlights we learned yesterday is also the same day that the president signing an agreement that means that it could agree to agree to sign another agreement. To abide by 2014 all of us soldiers will be gone except. Those are gonna Lewis greatest April 2024. So two billion dollars the week is spent an Internet. Eighteen hundred's and you guys have been guilders 6070000. -- -- is not be enough when a statement and Afghanistan until 2004. Our guys have done a fabulous job. The soldiers have done exactly was asked well that's why it's -- happened trachsel it would it would that they went to war. Afghanistan's same thing but you've got issues I've got -- issues that country's -- issues. -- the president has to sneak in a country that we -- Fighting for ten years. And in the post. And -- business. It's reported out to me that's a shout out yourself. And it's a little bit unseemly for the red states delusional to now. By the way you don't have to do that with soldiers at all. And and and by the way breaking news disrespect. Junior -- -- who played the patriots twelve time all pro linebacker and points and Diego just a phenomenal athlete was found dead. And that's the suspect it's all his command confirmed. And suicide and gun shot just 43 years old. Twelve time all -- Job self -- -- -- well. But on Afghanistan thing. -- -- to me. That was a great Smart political move because a lot of complaints about politicized and the killing of -- -- go away because. Many Republicans like a Lindsey Graham and John McCain. Won us to stay longer and Afghanistan. Like the fact percent signing a packed. That talks about -- staying at 2024. And they're right about this. That the president visiting soldiers. You know that's always a big deal between energy which is what presidents -- -- as visiting soldiers or an -- We should do a lot more but he did. It's it's at the original flight and art flight up for guys when you fly -- 85. Star hotel which is what airports -- But. From my standpoint the issue for me is that that is it still enormously. Unsafe environment. Witness by the fact that the president's state -- to do all that the secret trip with a steep landing and then the escort. Into up into a secure -- about the Taliban about a way attacked. Killed seven people with hours after president. So where -- talk a bit about Afghanistan and what this means. It means everything's in all the fighting to stop with the majors so for the -- and its 2014. We made a lot of progress in Afghanistan report came out. Just recently. By the department offense. And it claims percentages when when when department offense claims 6% less of this and -- percent -- that watch out. I watched. That it is always a problem when that when. Our government all of this case department defense starts using percentages. But what was also -- report that is getting a little bit notification was the most dangerous thing that's happened. Is the increase of Afghanistan's. Afghan security forces. Shooting and killing and wounding. Americans. It's called blue on blue. So the beetle which rating can be sent to be -- -- people were dying for that and we the people where. Allegedly helping and we suggesting -- take over this mission in 2014 and and it started taking over now. Who aren't supported the -- while most corrupt and incompetent government on the planet. Are shooting at us. So present as is to a steep dive again. Poet and commit night. And get out there. Into a country which -- the forces we've been training and helping -- And dying with the four. Are shooting us which is the biggest security has -- at -- probably it. Afghanistan is -- problem is in trouble and all the other way where there's a 22024. That but that's what -- that's part of what we're talking about. We're probably gonna keep a counterterrorism force there and it training -- -- my bet is gonna be between 50101000. Kenya would Dave font family car and we thank him. A high school girl that I give it ever since clever if you admit on the air attitude at all. And I apologize. I produced I don't worry about this. Earlier that straight army. Which is can you kilometer history has -- about for Romney. I all right -- -- I. Orbit. On what you like bush. Open up. Sort of day -- night. So I'm just give us -- Michael -- it was packed. There is date there is still it's serious amount of rejection. Of myself the part I'm most. Okay I gotta -- Patrick you're a good day but -- guard Patrick -- -- back. Oh yeah I like we look at it and that the goal of the season and -- What does that mean you're getting along. Really well. You know well does it. No kidding about. No no red army. But when you send in troops you send in the Marines and special forces because that's our job our obstacle in the kick ass -- -- and the -- becomes -- I'm not legit -- but as really. Not just the educational course but they do bring a lot more troops. When when you don't know what you're going to -- -- and -- -- sending you don't and in the army because you know. They're big they need a lot of you know being able lot of -- Moving to -- its when he sent in hammering it make you get a higher meant you can have a marine air. Not to had a -- cola. That explains listening audience is obvious you are -- what in God's name is -- I'd hope -- delegate. -- A magnet that -- Ask you it is the entire it is ground and are selling. We tragedy this is actually are you setting New York says the Marines have gone in first not special forces. The 32 -- first we wish we would be that all. Don't think Wednesday is when when you sent him. The army like we did in Afghanistan. We knew it was going to be occupation it was no doubt. An increase and a marine -- what do what what what it's. What. When he's an -- in special forces saying -- -- here -- an -- but you know we -- -- Come out to you after September when we are gonna be you know it because the Taliban was not going to get. We knew it was going to run we knew well that we need to hunt them down you are going to be there pushed almost. Beginning should be at all. But I must not have expected any flats and I think it's really I think all these people contacts and -- -- targeted either small. Nobody knew how long are going to -- We are adding that at my primary corporate. Who you with the Marines. -- I was without. -- and communication Italian open a canal atlas didn't I was eight -- support battalion. Has. Who quote it's not. The army Marine Corps stay -- So. I mean it's a little speeches because. It seemed to me once once that's what -- With the airports and the the normal took the country's thirty days. We had a choice of column Thursday. It. How how long do we really ever actually garden. You know as -- -- Asian. And you know done the job kick everybody passes and then walked out and -- constantly. Never never but does that mean position of any -- difference -- -- -- -- reads Patrick a great unit. Or the army as a political as. Well I. And the marine by the way helping them -- it could have occupied at your copy. A couple of thousand. Hard hitting it for two unit and has great support. It's it's not protecting -- -- I -- Alcohol the argument seems to be went to political decisions to the -- It's it's both. Political and military because we understand my my whole opinion on the entire thing is an opinion we should have been -- it -- in the middle let them screw. On. Hold on home. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- You learn themselves they teach and so we're screwed up and get back on track it only since 19100. With the British. You know would be. Patrick -- every healthier but after 9/11. You every USA how we got that evidence after 9/11 we don't get -- Afghanistan -- -- -- was enjoyed. On up I don't know explode -- stop because early that you came out and try and bring it. Well we brought it. -- -- much. -- much I don't think we ever unleashed dogs that will be it will be the -- these wars have -- guys aren't tied. Back impacted but thanks for his service. If it. That's -- To. Argue whether. Marine Corps what a better -- army it's the thought the decision was political raids that -- -- against the armies and mr. -- -- system as -- finally 413. To four times. -- And how I think it's going I think trouble. I think our guys have done everything they can do I ever since I told that this woman wants five years ago we should at least fighting has -- out. Intimate mainly because there's two things we can't solve. Which has all the corruption and incompetence of the Afghan government bikers. And we can't solve Pakistan's. Being safe haven -- the bad guys. Which is what they are now they can come lately they'd run across the board and -- that come across to -- instant it. And the solution is what we -- we have to invade Pakistan. And I'm just put my telling you we've we went after we would -- to the guys who did eleven to just ten years we Jill Belmont and this because -- ball which administration in a while mr. Asian market into that fight. But when you start. Nation building we're in trouble we don't do that well we didn't do nation building in Iraq well it's been sold to -- as a concept. We don't build other nations very well and we did it affect at all. And Afghanistan as well two million a week and all the guys we lost and injured now. -- Laden's dead al-Qaeda has been hurt. And -- had been hurt. Used to outline at least -- you have to fly in under the cover of darkness. The president United States either gonna have what is called a secure environment. Just like in Iraq when you landed at Baghdad you could not walk or drive. From the airport to the embassy which was four miles on the wrote. He got to take armored vehicle bigger than a house or take the VIP and fly the helicopter you can't drive war lots. We treat your airport commute into your embassy he did not have to arm and that's my that's been my iGoogle. Make it safe. To make it may make it as they've environment cannot do that it. Mike early -- of -- finally comrade Mike. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- They cannot have -- war. And get an idea. And that's exactly what you're -- -- -- -- fighting right heated they have people that its -- Sure the people that are trading down. It has been fifty incidents of last year alone. You don't -- it in some key. -- It has to -- It right you have been here and then I LE. Or I'd probably -- exploit it -- not here. Portland deployed -- a lot. So. What what does Mike what so what's what's -- solution. The media eats he's saints Dana that not a ten years -- come out. I'm thinking that -- it is wrong that it want to get an award -- -- got into it. And the place and look at all. People in the area. Mike Garrity is a great Celtic are -- you're talking like Jamal. I -- carpet bomb nuclear bomb and kill everybody and it's there. Well first of all having been there more than once Afghanistan's but not much data that results. Pocket I. I think I think going after bin Laden and al-Qaeda is at eleven is actually justified. -- a ten years is not in trying to be able to get that we don't see any longer it's I think -- and Mike thank you call Bob. -- to a seven by the way telling me that deadlock -- -- -- eleven and seven anyone wants you meet the route. From that airport to Baghdad to the embassy was Colorado Irish thanked and it was a blast did you security I got it. But you also know seven anyone and everyone else that went bridges with youthful image to Baghdad. Each if you can't -- four miles. You have a secure environment and we we could've made it that way. But we it wasn't. Jack on the Dave on volley guarded Jack. They record out in Iraq currently a better job -- our -- keep you want but he's done how he's the man. Right thank you. That Soviet Union tablet how -- troops -- would they ever -- Scorched earth policy and it could it make it -- spots and so we we can't o'clock what you are saying well that get a much addicted among them now. Jack that I agree I mean we we've done everything we could do. Our guys are guys have done just a probably a great job but we -- there's nothing more. What we're supporting a got a corrupt incompetent government -- two billion a week. It may get that. Each I'd need to Ortiz two billion dollars a week because it's America I'm sorry to say this but we got money. Full year they're considered them and our job which is set to get to get a lot of the sister -- It is just not that that's built this country I mean you can go to Rochester right now Duckett killed separate -- -- candidate Dorchester. Yeah now I agree by Jack thank you call Eric thanks but -- 617 says you can't buy an idea what about it that's isn't as. Yes that was a world war that was completely never went whenever we're all our assets against Afghanistan. We split went to Iraq. It it in what an all those things did you talk about 617. Didn't win take ten years to two win. And and they got -- and Mike Mike I look. Tactics the tactics of what should about on the ground. A fairly simple. -- that we did not let our guys do their job. In either of it and the political aspects but always in Afghanistan. We -- widget we have a place thirty days. We shifted the support of Afghanistan operation. To Iraq. With language skills logistics special operations. Army divisions. That we shifted our support. And that skating gold back on the back. We all I pointed out now that the president's everything -- -- -- was of the visit the soldiers but you have a strategic vision. This as this were done by 2014. The Afghans right now running all the special operations. That's -- in the Afghans have more independence reliably country thank you. And we have to sign an agreement that says what we're gonna do through 2014 to 2024. Which Bobby can't terrorism and train the Afghan military. And Obama await president gives a short speech and flies out. We did not want the president that states need to know why it's a short visit. It or -- daylight. We don't want airports want to fly in and out of Afghanistan when you fly to bog him he's surrounded by 171000 -- mountains. Any news to you fly in. Here and he's talked. Because of the because the way blogger and sets. So the president estimates and flies in black. And east doesn't think and flies. That to me. Is a dangerous environment that the ten years if you can't -- environment -- president compliant out of the daylight. It hasn't worked. And a lot of reasons why that worked mainly because the Afghan government's corrupt incompetent. And Pakistan. As much as we need to act in support us logistically on the ground into Afghanistan Pakistan has undermined us -- every step of the way. Witness how long the number one wanna man in the world was at a place called a bottle -- -- -- the West Point of Pakistan. Built they -- pop. That. We. Will be right. It's. Rolling Stone. 877. With 6943228774694322. Told predominant Alec our show. 861777. Entry -- -- jumped line. We need and in anticipation thank you. Fax 6177793. Point 67 Canada new state of the tragic genius. Tale of tea -- thank you. Phenomenal athlete twelve time all pro -- charges. Patriots of course. That tragic jobs just 42 years old another it just you know publicist. And you can't. None of it music. We're gonna have Ted Nugent on at 530 -- to support just phenomenal. We got -- I've got the -- she worked and got the machines stand. He's a huge supporter of that support. -- Which we all -- yes as -- -- like the -- and present. But Ted will be -- by the accused of towns so it's great. And Gingrich quit today it finally put it said see ya all don't wanna be. And oh by the way and that four million dollars I -- you guys now make trying to get he has -- -- forming -- box like an Angel. Gingrich is a very very wealthy man multi. He he he better make good on all of that time that -- And also the staff. Decently this -- it was 141000 mile trip a 7000 miles each way takes about thirteen like soccer which with the president. And for very short in the ground. We're talking about what it means so we had cut texture to twenty sevenths -- YY Graham and McCain. One est couple urged staunch Republicans but also wanted to stay longer and Iraq they believe that meant that they. They don't think that the any price is -- like mine in my opinion I think doubles wrong by Billy Graham is a form is it imports. Lawyer. And of course John McCain is famous eighty punishment to. Years by that I -- plus. In prison camp north Vietnam. It's just I think enough is enough I think ticket. And it's that it's done is to answer. And also that at one of the Dexter mentioned ever asked you what about the Marshall plan an occupying Japan but Japan and Korea I'm talking about. What we try to do Afghanistan. And it will be tried to do that Iraq was a total rebuild a nation which doesn't work. With those two would talk about South Korea would talk about enough. And Japan of course we took place so. We used to that you know we regard to just took OK. Too we've just started out. That might work but that we I'm saying that we we've lucked -- because it's America the greatest country that ever once. In May and it never will be might in my opinion and is right now but we forget the lessons of history we have forgotten how to do things that nation -- They Carl thanks to protect and much of civilians by U. -- That you a couple of like that you once over the -- -- not possible scenario where it was what. All yeah hi -- -- thank you nice to meet you thank you you're you're aren't aren't. A giant -- at the biggest kick up and I thought that I designed his book as I have -- -- -- but thank you stop them to wipe it took a picture thank you -- -- it was a now that bill it was a good government thinks he's being. Right right -- there are usually the one upon that the reality TV show the biggest -- America both are picked out of her constituents know. Yeah yes it -- start to the drastic reform law law. Look at should look at you. -- out a box over the -- I'm done trading around -- way above my pay grade he could mineral man. So what are -- vote lead out real well our purse -- if it can cover. I have to make an admission and you know -- keep our -- yes. I have to make an admission I voted against. Gerald Ford. Okay that's fine. Well I believe that they were voted for but I voted against -- Aren't in every you don't look I I've I think you guys have I've already said I mean that the Tea Party has is revolutionized. Politics which is about time. Let's you know keep -- we -- -- what about Afghanistan. Yet there was -- I think yeah its impact here real quick that actually have a -- Super Bowl well. -- -- Afghanistan has never -- a central government that they're gonna control a final 21 exactly so we have to do it's it's on the good silk ones we just talked to the people over control you talk that you tribal leader can make a separate deal with a 20%. We can't you buy your loyalty but we can rent it but he got so afraid they have over here in Afghanistan. So we do is we say. We -- the Taliban you probably don't like him either but -- -- places we wanna kill him. Are gonna bring their -- into the strength he talked don't know. There absolutely are not going to. Now we know I'd say. You're you're able we could they killed our guys that hit and how -- We do what you know what -- it's -- -- A final vote either Margaret so we're -- of the World League aren't your poppy fields what he wanted to. Napalm the okay. Yeah I mean I know what suggested it bomb if you date on the poppy fields okay. We -- eradicate 90% of the world -- news apparently. Took her okay you've also taken away. The crop of -- Afghan -- That's Brett is 6006045. Model -- artists are necessary -- -- -- but that's that's consideration to the united. But it takes it takes the money away from the Taliban who make some money on the -- I agree I -- but but I'm not sure sure you don't have a conversation with -- Among -- shot all the reason is because the some of the top dollar on some of the people. But it's a very very tough one it's the argument is -- changed who's served -- Is is is -- whether you'd be the problem we talked and OK AJ CI TY thanks for the call. Thanks buddy -- -- on the day fund while in congress John. John. There is insular party I certainly Europe sir I. But -- a year call others. -- Well my dad's not here so but thank you would interpret it comes to things I want history now they're young marine. All the while ago. Ronnie -- if he loves and he loves the arrangements are agreed to solve any problem again. I'd love -- do I look my nappy hurrying down. Club out. Short memory. In 1990 want to the first people on the ground in Kuwait. And it's. Eighty sick airport united states army -- up. Are not related to budget JJ jog anyone's side yards got to let's say that the Marines have been against -- first. It would have gone bettors is not a gimmick that argument it's crap -- right guys -- we we the country we took the content. But for him to say at the -- are always first and. -- he don't talk about of course an operative not just -- that. In Afghanistan or Iraq they were dispersed and it was it was specialists guys but yeah you -- you. Hit the ground first quite often. Yeah of course and looked great service. I -- Paul pulled -- their their actual. But none of -- my my friends are as good as we think we. Don't bet that a that -- and I go to Marines and army. I don't know it. -- and yeah I got a good point -- physical. Took it took whoever whoever. Exactly guy served he still loves of service he was and that's. Just the total accounts -- -- -- -- -- volley cargo at Mike. Thank you for your service you welcome hi how you doing good I'm older you know -- Korea. All hold -- I'm pushing eighty so Great. Britain so gradually you with the who you -- Headquarters calamity. I can't actually -- -- think Mike. I think that Obama's celebration of the anniversary of the depth of Osama. And his political views of the seals. Are gonna come back to -- them. Yeah I had something that is his efforts to make himself look like -- competent and courageous. Commander and chief. Are setting him up to be swift boat that. I think when the campaign gets drawn heavily. We might see some retired. Special service guys come out of the woodwork. And tell -- story. You -- -- that yeah if possible this is storage and does not mean NBC special tonight up which of course will be. Very plausible -- administration but score but. I -- I remember both the veteran gates say and don't talk about details Bolten very very upset I think it's a mistake. Yeah it's it's -- Monday to use this operation. Job as a political event I I think you can check the box like OK was saying you know we kill bin Laden I mean you -- say that I think that's a good candidate. Yeah but to make it a political. Point. And and that makes such a strong case for himself and use these guys were supposed to be invisible and bring about of the dark where they belong. Is wrong. I think a lot of might object strongly enough. The stand up and talk about not only that but things like thoroughly and stuff that is really should on this guy to be indecisive. I thought that it galleries are huge mistake but also I also think that are always ten years old public. We had we we had restricted Carolina in Iraq in the last a mystery about a 1000 melt as you Katrina. Those of military drawn up rules of engagement. That goes on the rules and engage in a -- I don't think the bottom of what tiger headquarters but I think there reprehensible and against it when you tie the -- guys incumbents. He should be shot yourself Mike thanks Carl thank -- service and no way that as it easel. Sounds like. Testified that he sounds forty -- teach -- -- That to to to introduce -- a three -- to midterm edited one of the ridiculous and beat and where were stingers that we and trained CIA. So escape to -- Against him and and of course to drain this what was. It is and always will be difficult but the point I think -- -- make about the Russians 7603. Is that. They had a database and a brutal occupation. And still got. Until laughed as we did not have at least where we can hasn't gone well. It has not gone well in part part as to the Paxton -- rest due to the Afghan government. And we'll be right back this. Update on -- -- car.