The Seals of Disapproval

Do you agree with Mitt Romney -- even Jimmy Carter would have ordered the raid on assignment in line. And the answer is yes. 75%. Agreement. That changed him because it means that 25%. Think that. It's Ricardo -- -- reporters earlier this year that it does anybody really think. Any American would have pulled Richard apparently won by a shuttle on its things that Jimmy Carter when. A deal would be actually we should rephrase that question to whether Bill Clinton would've done it because we know. That when given the opportunity he did it is. And would you know so maybe maybe people would think that. Bill Clinton who stalling in the commercial which raises the issue as to whether Mitt Romney would have done. Maybe people who have Dutch just whether. As to whether Bill Clinton would have done it. I do want to mention that just edu and ideas and Arianna Huffington some of -- probably heard the name. Huffington she's an outspoken liberal as -- of the left. As they come California had run for governor against Schwarzenegger and the Huffington Post is is a left leaning website. Even chic mansion commenting -- she'd beat CBS. Said the following. We should celebrate the fact that they did such a great job. It's one thing to have an NBC special from the situation room. There's much now about this commercial that President Clinton has done for the Obama campaign and the -- reactions saying that they should not be. You -- this the way they are what your take. I agree completely athlete -- -- yes I believe -- that there Romney campaign. That using V some being allowed them. I assassination. -- inning to -- great news that we had a year ago. He nodded to say basically that that Bob might -- and Romney might not have done it which is that -- I don't think I should be and how about that I think it's one thing to. Celebrate that fact that they did such a great job. It's one thing to have an NBC's -- out of from the situation room what's that going to have this week -- -- -- essay which interviews everybody on the anniversary in this situation which is -- press event that are about to me is perfectly legitimate. But attended that come pay -- -- the most despicable things you can do it's the same thing that's genetic given date with the city AM call. Well as Ariana Huffington she does -- -- I couldn't have gotten that -- Well you would know she's from Trenton, New Jersey anyway but even she from day he left. Is critical of what what Obama is doing with this -- he has managed to take. Which should be. A celebration that we all join in and a laudatory moment for him. And he's turned it into a tawdry. Political dispute over how he's handling -- So congratulations. Mr. Obama about the way it's not just Arianna Huffington. I got an article in in -- me from. Written by will be Hamdan from mail online. The talks about Navy SEALs here's a serving -- team member. Who said Obama wasn't in the field at risk carrying a gun. As president at every turn should be thanking the guys who put their lives on the line to do this. Goes on you know c'mon man it didn't really didn't matter who -- president. At the end of the day they were going go. Right. -- -- your thoughts -- welcome 8774694322. As the phone number I did get a text message. That. And then we'll go back to the telephone calls to get text message reminding me that this is also the anniversary. -- of Gary Powers being shot down in 1960 I think it was in -- over the Soviet Union he was flying U2 and at the time the U two's were flying so high that we could get. In effect information about the Soviet Union. -- call spying I guess we can do that shall we were flying planes over the Soviet Union and they couldn't shoot. The the planes down and couldn't get their planes couldn't get up and the missiles couldn't they came up with a new missile and it did shoot the plane down. He wasn't Gary Powers was unable to. To throw the switch would have destroyed the plane he ended up -- parishioners in. The Soviet union for awhile eventually was released on -- prisoner swap it at the time it was a big big deal because it was. Height of the Cold War. Later by the way became a traffic pilot who called -- reason I mention -- he was killed in helicopter crash. While he was working on and there's only 47 years votes over -- also another anniversary show. We get historical perspective of things that have happened. And the events that were important at the time that subsequently. Received into the sort of a foggy mists of history. Okay 877469432. To his opponent a million mentioned about the trouble and coming up at the beginning of the next hour. That phone number is 6177793469. Text message code that pressure getting a lot of good text messages C 28680. And to good emails a Nelson at W mark Leo dot com. Back to the telephone lines -- or -- the program thanks for hanging on. They do and -- is. I've got a couple points. One. Not eleven. The guys committed not elaborate arrived on this date to 1994. And they train all the way through the Clinton administration. There -- here training on either. That being expired anybody who watches any kind eleven. Showed that this is basically that they are you outlaw that you guys were your -- it's our caller that I don't have stepped up what you watch. -- bush in office for that -- 86 months. Yeah a bunch right. -- so. Now the president taking. Credit for getting -- is it like a guy to one -- in the first time. It's a tree. It's to cart -- about the dog cute thing to get all want -- and to sort of himself golf. Well -- you know the same argument that you just made applying here that these things don't happen instantaneously. We hear about them. And it's all of a sudden event but just as you -- That the on eleven mission took a lot of planning on the part of that the killer troop Herbert treated so terrible so too did. That finding of where bin Laden wives and and be understanding of how one could go about executing the mission it wanted it didn't happen you know the last just couple days before took place it was all Obama is doing. That that allowed -- Obama. In Britain that you basically knock knock -- commend. Mr. President we have all Osama in -- Which opened at eight. Let me check -- Richard Perry OK you don't -- just go get that Limbaugh. He's -- you left out Sasha and Malia. And they are just let widget award to make sure you don't get itself. You know it's a huge bony. Don't wanna know why do you think grow one last question why do you think that he is so unwilling to share any credit. With other people. Because it is AGI nor the huge ego maniac anytime he takes the stage it's all right it's I decide. Every week and you know it's audio it it's got so frustrated one point. You wrote a song about altering and I -- my -- on. And I'm. 42 year old -- -- -- it's actually patchy and it's a lot of little earlier that the -- and he'd done. You just missed your point you miss your opportunity you know they just heard the white house correspondents' dinner in Washington you could have been there and performed. Thanks rob thanks ago. By the way just to you know that I I mentioned earlier Michael Mukasey wrote a very good article about Obama and his -- he compared. The statements made by other presidents. George Porsche after. The this success in Iraq. Getting Saddam Hussein and Dwight Eisenhower after the success of and him both of them were Magnus slogan read the statements again but suffice it to say that they include everybody. And they the only time they spoke in the first person was to say I contractually. You or I'm on prior review meaning the people in the military. What I didn't read was the action -- of Barack Obama's statement. This is you know after that hazardous mission was accomplished by seal team six. Who had to be a little more exposed than being in the situation room in the lineups. Well here's here's Obama's statement. I directed Leon Panetta the director of the CIA to make the killing or capture bin Laden that top priority. Even as I continued our broader effort. Then after years of painstaking work by my intelligence community. I was briefed on met repeatedly with my national security team and finally last week. I determined that I had enough intelligence to take action. Today at my direction. We noticed a little bit of the usual the first person. You know -- people on national that question what's the matter with him. Mean why did she behave that way. You -- -- For those of us who. Haven't had success like this year if you plan -- -- baseball team basketball team he interviewed somebody who's even been the star of the game. And almost always she talks about team team effort now the only guys where there and the dish out here. Something psychologically. Wrong here. I'm not sure narcissism and captures it. I think there may be something -- some. Element of -- the diminished personality here. Your thoughts are welcome. 8774694322. Eric you're next on the program good afternoon. -- -- -- Most miserable. With them once and wet and Bill Clinton opted states where he opted to. -- Osama bin Laden's head on and so -- planet it's Oakley by what was it. Yeah at this market. And and I think bill bill. Clinton was a little should move. Preoccupied. -- is. It's true problems of Batman is DNA. Extruded. From Monica Lewinsky's little blue dress now in my right mine brought what -- remote. Well I don't while those Sudan but he can't I can't let you know now you're delving into the man psychology and you make it sound like. He sucked and the Archie you know I can get bin Laden but I don't think I will be as Monica might not like it you know I don't think it went like that. I I won't say this the only defense and it's a meager defense because I'm not a big fan of Bill Clinton. But it's all what are. But it's also true that although there have been terrorist acts perpetrated. Before including the bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993. It was not on the national radar and not as high on our personal conscience consciousness. As. Well what you don't want to -- that. When he was opposite the Oakland. Yes the the concern was that you know there was an opportunity to strike you'll be collateral down or curtail. Yeah you're right I shouldn't I really shouldn't be giving. Excuses for Clinton sure had done it. And that might have saved 3000 Americans and who knows how history would have been different I don't know they had much to do with Monica Lewinsky I just think he made -- -- call. Well I think he had I think he had some other items on my and. He may have actually you know when you get to be president there's -- a lot of things on your mind right. Okay Eric thanks thanks for -- 8774694322. Is the phone number. The text message code 686 JD from violate it was called the spy plane I assume that's a -- yes. That's true. Can officially getting in number. A number of text version of the the president is in Afghanistan and I guess he can be speaking -- if it's. If they've seen -- -- nothing of consequence. We we will certainly pick up on it but it. I will be surprised if he decides to be magnanimous and went to Afghanistan. Give George Bush credit for doing intelligence. On setting up the bin Laden killing. 8774694322. The telephone number Gerard your next on the program good afternoon. Yeah well. You know I'll I'll comment. On -- I built. Post. -- pop -- Obama -- Obama and George Bush a lot of credit. George Bush the first people. Talk like that happen. George Bush a lot of credit you're taking. This commercial. Political and I like working from the action pass. He's got have been -- why some are. Tax pool in the mock up. I. Listening to -- -- show since 2000. And 2000 and want. Now. And a half of -- thank you. It. -- -- M. I'll open yeah that's -- who is somehow Barack Obama how. Looks bad how. Old home and I didn't. Multiple and all I'm saying. I have a lot of respect. You know. Because you wouldn't know. -- You know. You -- credit for diminished capacity. -- blue initial. -- you -- -- growing like they. You critics or something that you aren't pat. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- The -- Boone was she take off on the silver spoon remark. About the criticism that Democrats frequently like to hurled at Republicans. And you know do the -- is and Romney because they weren't born to poverty. And I'm making the point that and as Obama did. When he pointed out. That he and Michelle got their education taking care they got their education taking care of and they got into good relations and got good jobs. Because they're black and because in this country there's affirmative action. That gives you an advantage because of skin color. And I shorthanded that. In a notation by saying he was born with a black spoon in his mouth as a way of reference saying the connection of benefit. That comes from not silver spoon but a slightly different -- -- Now if you disagree with that that's fine. But I would be happy need to engage in any argument that affirmative action gives benefit to people who were like at the expense of people who are not. Because any time someone gets into a university. They he gets he had been admission to university. He takes up a sheet that someone else doesn't take up when someone gets promoted on not after a firefighters' exam or police exam. One person gets the promotion the other person doesn't if the promotion is going to be awarded on the -- should skin color. That is -- on concerns of former racism but there's a beneficiary. And the beneficiary. Is the one who was born with a black spoon in the -- OK right. Yeah. Yeah. I agree -- -- about two million -- that will. Match. There are action society. Not so out of power how about if your son Gerard with a guy who didn't getting to school because of his skin -- Still -- so they re all told future shop that you'd tell yourself that such great looks as well. I'm -- on your son daughter on how the -- to be shocked that his father would like to see him. So proud of of school just because he happens white skin if that's the way you want to have -- I don't. So I. -- I -- that that. Just because I I. Oh are as well as. What it. -- -- -- opponents say rich guy I should white guy. Your local wants rich -- don't know what is -- whatever none all white guy. No I don't know one of not all nine -- a shocker do you -- but not all white guys rich. You -- practiced racism deride finding it's a free country but don't expect congressional. -- applaud it. I know you'll and you'll have job. -- UN just said how you think it's terrific. That somebody should get ahead because of his skin color and that and somebody else should be left behind because of his skin color that it's ugly. Vicious vulgar racism as far as I'm concerned has no place in America and if your son agree with you it's really awful that you spawned another generation of racists who. Long Island was Lindsay. Actually works out that's right. So just so that the people color. Call it. You know it's an economist gonna. Another shocked you Gerrard and I happen to believe that people ought to be judged. On the basis of what they can do if you're gonna make sure -- -- Don no you don't. You think you'll think that people should get ahead on skin color when someone gets on ninety -- on police and a police. I'm a police promotion exam and a black and white guy gets 95 in a black guy gets seventy and the black guy gets a promotion you think that's okay that's not merit that's racism. Okay that then there's nothing more to be said Gerard you and I have different definitions of terms. The rest of the audience that you criticized. The rest in the audience understand exactly what I said. If you break the criterion for promotion. Something other than -- other than the criterion of scoring on an exam which is supposed to be. The gate that you have to go through get to them to be advanced position. If you think that's score can be thrown out the window on the base of skin color. That's racism. Whatever else you wanna say is racist -- you can watch say well I think that's good idea may be but it's races. There are a lot of us who think it's horrible idea. It stands against everything this country stands full. 8774694322. If -- come river cover with a commercial break we are. Back on the other side -- you'll stay with us and -- I'm on the Nelson this is how he cart program when. It's. We're back. Have a confession to make me sit back to lobby Nelson coming just as Irish. Going over to the table and -- on Tuesday began filling in for -- do it on Tuesday Kowloon. Comes over the great Chinese -- who's very get. And it's it's in the studio audience smells great and everybody else comes in some of -- have to work. Thoughts -- welcome. 8774694322. Is the phone number. -- we've gotten into no question about. Affirmative action. From 508. -- let's DOT US president of the United States. You know -- motors has been told his whole life city's the greatest thing since sliced bread. Starting to believe it. 877469432. Which is similar Robert -- How -- that they know him -- brings up Obama's winning the Nobel Peace Prize at -- forgotten about that. But I know I for one and just. Sure -- and we hit -- wait so long for -- -- would never come. He's accomplished so much to get the Nobel peace for a go back to the telephone line Steve you are an actual program good afternoon. Yeah. I'm trying dentistry is bank. Barack Obama as some kind of psychological. Before speakers. In the U. A credit. Or or an incredibly historic and brave decision. To send a navy field than when he could have just. Bomb them a predator drone. He's he gambled his old presidency. And you think because he's taking a little credit politically. -- some kind of psychological -- Or for a personality -- Now. I first of all I don't. I don't think I'm not charging it only on this particular incident I I was looking at this entire public. Displays since I've known about him which you know really missed since he ran for office and and now Serbia's president. And I've noticed that not once to the best of my knowledge. I don't think there's been single time when he has said something. Favorable. About his predecessor. Which I considered to be. Kind of narrow and -- -- characteristic of presidential frequently will mention something. Positive about. They're -- on every note art. But allegedly are Steve that they're bear -- man. I -- -- didn't bear with me on the American. I was so that was what I was spacing and -- but I want to get to your point because you focused on. The gambling his presidency on -- and I think it's more important. Two to look at that particular incident I don't think he gambled it at all you say he could have there are three things she could have done Steve one is the the launching the seal team which is what took place cycle and you mentioned sending -- to drone and destroying the compound the third is to do nothing. Right those of the three options. Now you're saying that all gosh he appeared to get -- installed in a drone destroyed the compound it. You know kill bin Laden not -- that he's president she would have been ruined it would have been applauded. Nobody would have known about the option of sending in the seal teams show everybody what he said hey great he sent an drone and killed bin Laden. -- -- -- -- -- Okay what what -- -- is better -- mentioned order fail. People would have said you're you're under Jimmy Carter. But let it might final point here. You know union seemed to mind when President Bush on the flight suit. -- -- -- -- -- -- Let -- -- aircraft carrier and they've been in front of them mission accomplished sign that was like 400 new high. That you would have a personality defects. But at all President Obama all blocked President Obama. Oil boy you'd better I -- any time -- not gonna affect. Album or cooling period. Why did you what did you it's on the black student. Here and everybody -- I CC. You know as such what happens when your argument runs out of steam then you start hurling racism around. I'm not once not once in this conversation. Has it been a matter of whether he was a black president but not with regard to the raid in not. Got it all university. -- that it was a lot are not raise serious no -- no reason. It's not be staying and it. Hurt -- it's been good people. Believe. We're talking we're talking about the raid at the compound and it with bin Laden in it. But if you wanna talk about the other stops in -- sly little group that I'm not gonna take of cash on you guys who lied to a race mongers is like volume. Who like to try out the race -- all time let me tell you what affirmative action in the years. Angeles times standard solution that you're not from this country so maybe you don't know what it is affirmative action. It's the law of the land that requires people. Who are black to get preferential treatment. I consider that to be a racist law. But he is required in this country. And the reason that people. Get advancement. Say on a police or firefighter. -- who are promoted a ball -- -- score would take them the reason they gave it to universities. When there transcript wouldn't justify it. The reason they get advanced in hospitals. When their doctors on -- -- beyond their knowledge and their capability. Is because there's an affirmative action law in this country. And when I started a television station a few years ago. Embryonic it wasn't even on the air. I got a call from my AF CC attorneys who said they had done a population now as we had a half a dozen people in the company. And they told me you know you better get some more people of color there so you don't run afoul of the FCC would look -- affirmative action said don't give me this garbage. About how the rest of us are races we are living in a country. Which requires. Racist practices Steve. That's got nothing to do with -- Obama's decision about going in and getting or not getting bin Laden but change you slice so easily. From the argument about whether or not it was a good policy and how well he handled it over to the usual charge of anybody who disagrees with -- him are racist I wanna put this right in your face so you will understand. What is going on. In this country by -- wall. You know having. You can hide behind. You. You only got at Harvard because he was black not because he was Smart. -- -- That's right that's what affirmative action is not tell you something Steve that you're ever in this country. And a black guy you know because of health fleeing in the health problem. And black doctor walked into the room. You better think twice about whether that doctor is there because he's good because he's black -- as you won't know the difference. Look at some of mount. This -- what affirmative action have anything to do it. 72. Million Americans. Voting for him it's somebody or them to give them -- they figure mired we why you have president. Some people did Steve and some people aren't some people gathered in some people voted for him because he's black. Because they thought it all on such a good person. That I'm gonna vote for apply for Russia now look at how liberal and wonderful alliance but no that was not a requirement Steve. He have to be able to differentiate. For in the law compels you to do something verses when people to do other things. I'm not questioning whether he's legitimately the president to the United States although I noticed that he does play the race card doesn't. When skip gates member of the black repression got in trouble here with fork in me and Cambridge Massachusetts. Before even knew anything about it -- Obama said that the police acted stupidly. With the trade on Martin's situation. -- match applaud the comment. If I had a son he would look like trade on. While Mr. President I guess. What that means is if you had a brother he would not look like George Zimmermann. -- now the president has in there about abusing the race card. But that's not really the issue. Thank you for your call -- And come back and visit us any time. 8774694322. Is the phone number. -- to understand. When you are in public life and you're in the White House. You're open to criticism you do things so people agree some people don't. It should be that the waiting years with every president. And here when people can't handle which are criticizing somewhat. They're really slide back and try to make it. Something where you really criticizing for the reason it's not panel she couldn't possibly policy. Well if you think that Obama has handled this well. And that it's worthy of having a political -- against his opponent about the killing of bin Laden and fine. I content and those who think that way or themselves racist. You're racist because you can't bring yourself to criticize anybody who's black. Now you're getting a tingle up your leg. Right. They're true. We have over -- no fault OK Tim you're next on the program it. The united on. X I don't know why they call and be out by really like let's say. -- I don't know what they're really just -- -- calling you only do in this and yeah -- -- call it. You do it burst you know it it's they're racist because they see color first rival port that's -- they appreciate. While he's black she should get in because there's not that many black people or you are blind to color. Really do it wouldn't matter if they were black it would be on matter never gonna talk captured -- anyway so what I'm. My have a point I I judge character as far as my -- or -- our ally. I like you people that work under me as as. Or. Well retreat where you say -- right and we I watched that very carefully comes from somebody of start. -- the usually turns out to be the idea in this great thing and we did this terrible. It's almost it's helped a lot about a person's character. What they take credit for how they take credit for. Sure -- and I believe C I mean at all. He's our deputies say -- meter fly. I don't it's. It was all it's all the first person when it's a matter of claiming credit. And that's. And that is actually as I'm concerned part of the problem. Nobody else in this is now -- car program. Welcome back. Actresses on the Nelson in for how we college go back to the total lines before the break Charlie here next on the program connector here. How macro look at two things to say one -- -- with Gary Powers you probably realize that it's shut down six state. And in October of 1959. Lee Oswald emigrated to the Soviet Union and the he had been and that's -- beer was basically YouTube staging ground. In Japan for a part of that -- said that he was going to give secrets the -- -- we didn't think about it. And Gary Powers to the end of the flight bulk it was because of ought to vault and formation that was shut down. Yeah. That's one thing the other thing -- I'm -- that very topic and spoke up and I'm glad because of the second time of the group among let you know lifelong Democrat but it seems like my fellow Democrats are able blind. What scared of saying anything against president. And let's get the guts to do. Well that Charlie a question for you -- even lifelong Democrat Brett did you vote for Obama last annoyed and you gonna vote for him this time. No because alternative I and that handcuffed the great writer and less reliable because that. -- probably the most dangerous precedent that they had and I think coming from him was even more liberal and I am I think that basically says that all the people have to open -- I don't think is a real Democrat. -- give you one last chance you're going to redeem your democratic credentials you can vote for Scott Brown Elizabeth Warren brown. He sure your Democrat. I have managed that but I tell you I -- of my conscience. Well there we are always welcome to the repentant -- coming in discovering life don't get a measure. Thought -- the world back on the other side I'm on the Nelson who are listening. -- -- --