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Do you agree with it -- it even Jimmy Carter when it ordered the raid on Osama bin Laden. Yes of course. Well the question just went up and currently it's 98% but we'll see how it falls out. Of -- -- We debated about having a question about. About Elizabeth Warren right genuine who went wishing that the one we did or. The other one was does Elizabeth Warren qualified to be in Indian. And do we do we actually didn't go without one but we will get to that question. A little bit later on. It will I was interested in finger I think we're doing the program leading off. With. Talking about the IQ points because there are supposed to be out in force I don't know where they spent the winter. But somehow. They got through okay and I've seen some some of the pictures from the from New York not from here. They don't seem to be any of the list nourished for the cold weather. This one here that your position holding option really ugly female. And an unpleasant. Expression just eat the rich. Chosen -- tempered view rational discourse. But I don't think anything's going -- at least not in Boston. Sure there's there are generally too much to talk about I mean these are -- park revolutionaries. And he that ranged from little gears have to go -- -- -- If somebody's got something on missions going on and I know it's we've heard about other cities but but in the Boston area -- -- much -- -- We're gonna start with a discussion of the anniversary of the bin Laden killing. And how Barack Obama has managed to take what should be. A victorious and celebratory. Anniversary reflection. And turn it to a mess. By virtue love -- making a political. They and and you know even at the podium in front of a foreign leader from Japan. Talking about how other people. Intent Romney might not have made the same decision. You know that. It's hard to see how president would not have made that decision I thought Romney's comeback was an interest in one rigidity than Jimmy Carter. Would have made that. Decision. Reflect back a few years. When Jimmy Carter was in the White House it was when the Iran hostage situation. Was in full bloom. And at one point they did schedule a rescue mission. And it was a disaster. The helicopter as it starts and they were trying to take off in the desert that they collide -- crash admit it nothing ever came. It was a complete disaster and arguably a more complex and sophisticated. Raid requirement. To. Get the hostages out than killed in the line nationalist much more difficult to go in and rescue people than you should just yelling kill people. But that's -- references to Jimmy Carter. We're finishing here is that. They're here bin Laden. Authorized the raid was as the commander in chief pastor. But -- and he has been so a lot finished in trying to take credit everything is in the first person. And Michael Mukasey. Who. You know be brought in an article. In the I guess in the Wall Street Journal -- -- -- -- she militia served as US attorney general from. 2007 to 2009. And he wrote the interesting article first of -- The there's a mammal memorandum that came from Leon Panetta. That says the following quote the timing operational decision making and control our admiral look ravens fans. The approval is provided on the risk profile presented to the present. And makes the decision but then. It's nick raven who apparently has operational control you can be sure if this had failed. Obama would not have been saying on. You would have been saying I authorized generic. That incompetent. Raven meshed it up. But what I felt like about the article is. Mukasey. Took a look at what other presidents have said after successful missions authority it's interesting to compare. George W. Bush. Capture of Saddam Hussein remember. Here's what he said he called back success quote a tribute to our men and women now serving in Iraq. He attributed to quote the superb work of intelligence analyst who found the dictators footprints. In a vast country the operation was carried out with skill and precision. By a brave fighting force our servicemen and women and our coalition allies have faced many dangers there were continues. And so -- the risk and at the end this is the only time he is the first person today on behalf of the nation. I thank the members of our armed forces and I congratulate them. Dwight Eisenhower. Member of the day. He had written. In case of failed he had written statement in advance the statement read as follows. If the day had failed my decision to attack at this time. And place was based on the best information available. The troops the air and the navy did all that bravery and devotion to duty could do. If any blame attaches to the attempt is mine alone unquote. But then when it was successful. When Eisenhower said was. 1 week ago this morning there was established through your coordinated efforts -- first foothold in northwestern Europe. Highest was my pre invasion confidence in your courage skill in effect in this. York -- pollution should exceeded my brightest hopes and here again at the end first person. I truly congratulate you upon a brilliantly successful beginning. Liberty loving people everywhere wood -- like to join me in saying Q I am proud of you uncorked. Let's hope other presidents have handled it. Let's not Obama. Obama is I did this and I did that. And even had the nerve to say that nobody else would have been able to do it well I have one more thing in the we'll go to the telephone lines. By the way if you wanna remember appeared and -- she told free numbers 8774694322. I'll add one more thing we've heard how. Bill Clinton said what a great move it was and Joseph Biden said it was the most impressive thing -- 500 years. Just imagine it -- there was talk whatever went wrong with the Pentagon wrong. Everybody in the country would have said well Mr. President you've tried -- which had been done. But no turnaround. Supposing he said no not gonna do it. And it later came out as you invariably ward. That there was an opportunity to get bin Laden in a compound in Pakistan. And Obama didn't do it. What do you think the repercussions would have been there. He would have been clobbered. By the rest of us who -- said what in heaven's name are you waiting for what are you thinking. So you're going -- she what do gutsy move. I think there was the pressure of circumstance and the pressure of the American people who say hey. He got to get this done. So does he deserve credit yes but Cheryl little bit -- that there were a lot of people. Who put a lot of effort into it in administrations -- appreciated George. And using the waterboarding technique that you showed disparage. They've got to that point where you could say yes. And use in the situation room there are a bunch of very very people who went in and actually. Did the operation. You're just joining yesterday afternoon this is the anniversary of the bin Laden killing I'm on the Nelson for -- Clark. Let's go to the telephone lines marry your first up here the icebreaker thank you and good afternoon. Great at I want to say the pregnant -- don't president to take credit for. Any thing about. I'm telling them. Because the navy at the L camps go through rigorous training and I don't think Barack Obama. Good Avago that we can't. You don't think -- -- think Obama would make it through boot camp right. Well he plays basketball you've seen. -- -- -- Yeah you you don't think you'd make it through physically or psychologically. -- Well I guess we'll never know -- right. OK -- thanks furcal. I don't know I guess the -- I don't know apply it to take this with -- Obama and I'm neither. I'm not a fan of news we may get through boot camp. Got an email from Susie. Not true that any president. Would advocate taking Osama. Out. Clinton decided against it twice Spanish true. I will give in fairness to Clinton. That at the time Clinton was -- was making those decisions. Button most of us should never heard of a -- line it was before nine elevenths now it was after the 1993. Bombing of the World Trade Center. And and the USS Cole and until they. Doesn't get a free ride but it was a different. Set of circumstances. I think however there's more than a touch of irony. That it's Bill Clinton who does the voice over on that and thank you -- on the -- on the on the Obama. And that is criticize you -- implying that Romney couldn't do it because. He doesn't have the bravery and courage. That Barack Obama. 8774694322. Is the phone number Josh connection program good afternoon. Our good afternoon be you know RV I understand the reason why the Republicans are feeling so jealous and so guilty. Not only did the Republicans. Failed to get bin Laden at Tora Bora. But the Republicans also failed to get bin Laden for years afterwards. This Bill Clinton and Republican. Well we're talking about the Republican jealousy not only in the Republicans failed to get bin Laden. But the Republicans also failed to find any weapons of mass destruction. And the Republicans failed to end the war in Iraq. The -- judge. That your problem you think that this was all just a matter of Democrats and Republicans when in reality. The effort that eventually culminated. In the killing of bin Laden. It was a combined effort. Of a lot of people including. People who worked in the bush administration. And quite frankly I don't know the politics of the Navy SEALs who went in there but I'll bet you that now all of them liberal Democrat. And you try to make it like your president. A political and now rope and he. Political statement as if somehow Americans are divided on whether or not it was good to get in line. Trashy Josh -- trashy. The book you talk about taking credit for not -- even though 9/11 happened on the watch of Republican bush. The Republicans had the gall to claim that Republican bush protected us from that terrorists -- a Republican who call. Now judge what to read the argument was that after nine elevenths. There wasn't another major terrorist event because of the actions taken by the administration. Let me. Let me ask you something Josh would it be fair for me to say that Pearl Harbor. Happened on the Democrats watch and therefore we should blame the Democrats -- World War II about Vietnam. That happened under Democrats or the -- Cuban missile crisis they haven't under Democrats it is that. How you viewed these things narrow political that's -- you -- That kind of small shallow petty attitude Josh is what distinguishes some of fueling your fellow Democrats. Remember. You don't want I know you don't want to remember but before 9/11. And I'm gonna repeat that phrase. Before 9/11. National security advisor Condoleezza Rice. Presented. -- Republican bush with a report that said Osama bin Laden. Determined. To attack within the United States. And Republican bush instead of gathering his forces Republican bush decided it would be better to go and -- brush. And corporate taxes. What about Democrat Clinton. What about Democrat went well he had a couple of opportunities and he didn't do anything. All while you can tell you could. Could criticize him but you can't criticize bush right -- criticized Clint. -- -- -- OWs are. Not. Just. Build the web trying to get across Cuba was obviously very limited success. Is that your superficial analysis analysis is not -- nasty but it's downright wrong. So that together terrorism issue. Is an issue that unites Republicans and Democrats all president's. Where interest all presidents since this became a an issue of terrorism or -- interested in ending terrorism and getting. They'll lied and and in preventing future terrorist activities the fact that you can't see that. That you want to make it that somehow Democrats are interested in that but Republican side shows how shallow and -- Eli and counterproductive. The reason like people like you would come on the line judge regional having a longer phone call. Is the more you talk the more you turn off the people in the middle. You know the once committed Democrats and committed Republicans are gonna vote the way they gonna vote. But the people in the middle were undecided when they hear the issues the point of view of Democrats. They -- gonna say guys that -- a lunatic. I'm not gonna be with him. Even though the killing of bin Laden was accomplished by the military. Only President Obama can claim credit. For the political decision. This -- US forces onto that territory of Pakistan and he should claim that because he made that decision. He did make that decision but he did it he stood on the backs of giants that they that the intelligence information was gathered. And that. These that we knew where to go was done on and on previous should under previous administration and by the way using techniques like waterboarding. That he himself this about and even president that that time. He we never would have -- the information and bin Laden probably would still be alive but even saying that judge. At a time of triumph it is nice it's considered the war and in large gesture to include everybody. To make it a victory for the United States not up any victory. For you and other people who are going to try to have a partisan success so. I had to decide. That's which our president to do. Playing our president to make calls when no one else can do. Well I can demand speaking Bill Clinton did not do it at the time when he had to Mexico. OK do we have to take a break we do will be back on the other side. With your phone calls text messages. And other observations on the the issue of the day which is the anniversary of the killing of in line. A -- Nelson this is how -- cart program. Welcome back this is on the Nelson. And for our highly charged gonna be off this week. -- will be in tomorrow. They get text message from 617 it says colonel hunt you sound awful you have a cold. And will be in tomorrow. And I don't know cold. Are a number of like good text messages can't get them all but. Two -- couple of themes that. Pointed out that. Or couple text messages on the team that pointed out that Obama was the one who said he wasn't despite the football remember that uses the metaphor he used. Because it might foment additional. Problems in charge of recruitment to more terrorist. Well. Certainly would say spiking the football team and made a radio or TV commercial. A political commercial over. Your thoughts are welcome if you just joining us it's the anniversary of the bin Laden killing. He's still dead. 877469432. To his opponent -- -- the -- blind coming up later on. -- like he joined. Leave a message on your -- that phone number 6177793469. The text message code is 68680. In the email address a Nelson and WRK -- dot com. Let's go back to the telephone lines -- you are next on the program good afternoon. Okay. Okay of first time caller trying to Muster first I'm column is sure the bouquet thank you off. A disgusting do that global called in the air quite interesting I'm calling from combat Vermont. Coincide so -- -- by the way. I -- I think Sully as he's so easily followers. Being able we have a lot of appear. Anywhere to put anywhere. Not a good anyway all of a trip -- -- -- present network and talked about Obama and like them being able to go to boot camp. Although she may have a point here and you could include Google service you -- -- in the service says not all about you mean myself and I it's about team effort. And they may be something to that because I -- McCain on I think Fox News. Who's a true hero from the Vietnam Arum says most Terrell don't go around. I made I saw that comment to heroes don't brag he said. That's that's -- that's right thing on that one. Don't we before we leave that one million out. You're right I I just may be when you get involved with something like you know you go through boot camp Leo you. -- part of the military you really. You understand. That you need to help the people next you'll you have to give the help and return. But it's also true -- that -- some foolish pick up on that along the way you know I mean there there's some people understand that even though they didn't go to boot can. And then hit it says something about. A person's character. He got to really it is you know mid forties and present in the United States he doesn't get that it at all first person. OK good. But I when I was gonna say yeah I think it is -- -- Mitt Romney enough I -- But very general -- also accused in Cuba haven't loyalists silver spoon is not he wasn't brought up resourceful. How come they never bring up all my question that was often fought over. Kennedys were brought up the source from the -- and how come we never -- and you're the greatest thanks and so fried chicken. That's that's exactly right. Well you know it's because it depends which when you wanna talk about right now tell them that. -- on the Barack Obama and Michelle Obama didn't have a silver spoon and a black spoon in their mouths they got a whole bunch of passes because of their skin color. That I -- people didn't get it. He -- and -- Nationalists say that either because all. Can't see -- -- to say something on complimentary about the president means that you you suffer from all sorts of psychological issues. And I just baptists -- this label called and said that terrible -- criticized bush. Bush took it is a critical new thing is he didn't he didn't keep Bob bright bright you know. He just put the -- he was able to go beyond that and then it was obvious criticism from the left. Should send an issue but anyway I just thought I'd mention that source blown the Kennedys who worked dearly loved by most Democrats most people. I mean you couldn't find a -- family. -- Are awful they're awful lot of very wealthy people who are under very liberal very left wing. Right the thing is you can't do that against them. Of course and I mean that's that's not the issue right what matters is what they say in what they stand for now they do it thank you great. 87746943. To choose a phone number. And -- you mention it again you know we we talk about it. Barack Obama. Frequently -- always in the first portion he seemed so full of himself and and I've heard people say he's brimming with self confidence and and here when he came to. Talking about -- victory for the United States which indeed was the culmination of a lot of people's effort. It was all first person stuff from from Barack Obama. So he's saying gosh -- -- thinks a lot of himself superiority complex. We euros or we were kids. And that that was the brag heard in the class rural -- summit dollars. We found out pretty quickly that it wasn't because the guy really thought a lot of himself would because he had an inferiority. Complex. And he had to keep telling people how good he was. To make up for the fact that he really thought that he wasn't very good at all. Now it's always fun to play psychologist a special assuming you don't know and I've never met. You know Barack Obama. I met Mitt Romney and number of times -- not Obama. But still you Begin to -- -- Here's a guy who's in session think by the time we get to be present in the United States shouldn't be -- magnanimous. Little bit. We'll be generous with your praise. You could occasionally mention your predecessor. Nothing I could say about him psychological. Rural India. Remains felt we should be sympathetic. Group therapy session. Them get together with the TSA guys should talk about their issues. 8774694322. Is a full membership to 8680. The text message code to -- go back to launch Ernie are next on the program good afternoon. Good afternoon. Good afternoon nap because me and and and apparel and attacked about property presidential run is okay. We -- pastoral anniversary in April 19 to reflect on the year. But Timmy Barreto brand -- PR. -- -- -- I was April 19 or. Perhaps April 19 and math test per cent rise in and today from that mission. Forensic testing being proud and proud. I have to carry out and we'll have to defend a lot 200 miles. Because they read Japanese patrol boats. Was there was a patrol -- as a fishing boat and they -- -- as they were afraid you're right but there were afraid. That they shouldn't but it had to have radios and so they have a launch earlier you're right. But I -- not I I'm not a that's coming in that bit of that because I spent for his crime in America but god loves chapter eight. You fought fought in the forgotten blaming the Korean War. That's correct this. That was what I was out in the night I described -- in -- different area affiliates. Well thank you for your servers congratulations lie and you know I'm glad you mentioned about the Doolittle raid is your right it was. Seventy years ago I don't I didn't know early April 19 so glad you brought us up to -- Ernie thank you for calling. And -- -- mention a little bit about debt because. That was the first. Strike. That America launched in response. To. Pearl Harbor it was the first success that we had it was interesting Jimmy Doolittle who led the raid. After it was over they did you know minimal amount of damage and a number of the crews didn't come back -- one of the planes and that up and the Soviet Union. And they kept that there in the -- -- used that as a model for Obama that they designed later on do little thought he was going to be court martialed. Because you thought the mission have been a failure but of course psychologically. It was an enormous success. It was it it just boosted the spirit of the entire country. I don't know about those of us who want -- run at the time it's hard to imagine what it was like but there was of course concerned. We know now that the Japanese weren't gonna invade US coalition Germans weren't going to be the East Coast but the time we didn't know that. And there was real concern that the -- the war could be launched in Libya. So the Doolittle raid which showed the possibility that. America could actually reached in Japan has tremendous psychological effect here and and equally devastating psychological effect on the Japanese because all of a sudden they've had been led to believe by the by the military that they. That there -- and vulnerable they are impervious and all of a sudden American bombers appeared on the on the scene actually it was a great -- -- A great stroke and one of the important missions of World War II -- That better way of an impromptu recollection as you remember the -- would is April 19. 8774694322. Is the phone number they text message code 68680. And the email address and Nelson WR Kerio dot com. How he is off today and so I have the pleasure being with -- Do if you take a break or do we -- -- the phone lights -- -- phone lines we share with them -- you on next. The thanks for certain and for -- I wanna commend you on being the first person I've heard in the media. Mention the political fallout that would have occurred. Had they know that bin Laden was there and failed to act. As a politician. A supreme politician he knew that. You'll Betty knew it that's right. He can just imagine I'm I'm glad you're mentioning again because you can just imagine what would have happened when we found out. But there was a chance to get in line. And the guy in the White -- didn't have the guts to do it right. Right yeah that. Here's the other thing what you -- saying I think this is the -- actions of a desperate man he knows. There is is -- -- -- was -- prior to coming into office spears performance hasn't been. Any it has been lackluster. He's touting things like passing Health Care Reform. Which nearly two thirds of the people oppose any you know it's it's something that it was a legislative accomplishment but nobody wants that are a lot of people don't -- And -- gentleman who called you and argued I think he's forgetting the fact when he talks about bush. I seem to recall that bush was the man who pulled the proverbial trigger to actually take down the Taliban. So to suggest that you somehow. Couldn't or wouldn't have -- this the guts to go after real. And bin Laden when they knew where it was that that's trash. Of course is that -- this -- -- back to to it to Barack Obama and you say it's a manifestation. They know his behavior with regard to the bin Laden killing in the anniversary of it is a manifestation of his recognition of failure in other respects. What's interesting though is that if he had been. Grander more generation. Broader about things appear -- expanded. His congratulations. And included George Bush included -- -- for all Americans. That would have been of greater benefit to him that would have been eight. That -- strengthen his position against Mitt Romney in the upcoming election and with everybody in America to a much greater extent. Than trying to portray this narrow row I did it and my opponent wouldn't have done. You know I -- shot even even as a matter of trying to achieve what you and I both think he's trying to achieve he went the wrong way. Well absolutely and it lends further credibility to the -- narcissistic personality disorder. Well or whatever. But your psychologist Sudan's. No multi I read about it and I was open minded I didn't vote for him but -- -- to open minded doubt but what I've seen I think fits into it I think the guy has got so much hubris. It's it's difficult to describe. I -- -- make again issue not voting for him this time either. I didn't always done over questions were okay. That's a -- shy of a break Armani Nelson this is now he car program. Mean. Welcome -- this is on the Nelson in for how we can't how he is off this week. They've gotten some interest in text messages. A couple of them is said what's -- doing in Afghanistan not spiking the ball. -- what he's doing in Afghanistan couldn't be political. Must be just because he's magnanimous sharing things with everyone. Go back to the lines Michael you're next in the program good afternoon. They already are short credit. I want to wait Angel local garage are. Brought fuel -- -- back to just help our -- out. Around the idea of I hope I hope that's the way away and I'm glad you saw it that -- thanks. I want and I got to cut the president and all -- here. All of -- -- respected and it is appropriate manner and a lot of good article -- now. What you mean about killing the line. Yeah I think you know nobody's gonna denies in the credited should she show any about it you'll share it with -- anymore. Do -- bank they don't give the other thing that happened I've got -- Merkel. And a candidate. -- but I don't. Now I don't think well that. -- I'd -- down under talking you look for on demand that there would be a candidate out more -- -- popping new Barbara. Governor Rick for probable or are they don't realize that I -- the real event and a little more real element that. I do remember. And now let's see is occupied by Scott brown and and Mitchell a very interesting election going Alomar to say about that and and Pocahontas Warren a little bit later on in the program. Thanks for -- 8774694322. -- you know going and Brian you're next on the program good afternoon. It's. Good that he does -- Don't talk one window at. Been in Oakland. It's -- to try to -- a lot Tulowitzki. It would be if you went to Clinton. -- it's. But don't. Whoever it. That -- man that may be that strike as he was not a course you as a present when when 1993 have a may be sure Sean Monica Lewinsky have to bin Laden. Well -- -- little while they might just do -- to try and I mean. You consumption. And -- -- -- -- -- It's pretty element and for the military and -- -- -- that we. Trot -- out of course map to open a war. Or are going to want it -- -- -- I think one. But I. I think it's wonderful that Bill Clinton is the voice on that than that political. 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