One year later- Is Obama wrong to use Osama's death in his re-election bid?

Isn't it basically the president will say anything he's told to say it in orders is distract everybody from having conversation about how miserable. The country with famous president and it's an interesting strategy so we just goes out and says things yesterday he said what it already become a story because they done and never ties but. But the Obama campaign is accusing Mitt Romney. All of -- being somebody who would not go to join what he did yeah now it's so it's unprovable planned one or or the other it's the perfect. Think from malicious president to say in order to get everybody talking about something that's irrelevant we don't know what Mitt Romney would have done. Nobody knows what Mitt Romney would have done the assumption is. Given that moment. If Joseph Biden is standing there telling you not to do it of course you're gonna do it could shift -- -- -- -- on every foreign policy issue he's ever issued an opinion on. Oprah and there is not only is it impossible to prove -- -- prove one way or another because obviously it's just a hypothetical. I think there's very little doubt in people's minds what Mitt Romney would have done very little -- I have an idea I have been no doubt whatsoever that he would have said go. Absolutely would have said go I think he would have and I -- a start up around. Tennis half a lot of good business opportunity -- staples and that's structure -- -- hot hot hot hot hot yet we have got that. By. I think the you know the only president who may have hesitated. And even he said go on the around the Iranian hostage a situation which and it obviously in spectacular failure unfortunately. Was Jimmy Carter I think it would have been some hesitation on his spell that's why -- line yes it was so good to great -- mrs. LI OED -- courage -- become aware of said the you know would have the most likely present and even in retrospect. Would be. Barack Obama. The most likely to to say hesitate to has shaken out. 'cause our remember he was against the surge he thought that was overkill -- well lots of people are against a certain nobody who was actually being honest was against the -- I don't think -- -- except maybe Barack Obama maybe that was an honest moment but everybody -- the search was a good idea what makes you -- -- why do you think Obama went. If you if he would if it is giving -- our world a young mind. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yes good -- yes -- you don't ones. It you know it's unbelievable that these these people come up when Walt would admit you know I mean -- -- -- were -- in a borrowed. Osama bin Laden I -- deep -- -- -- out I -- cheated price we could do it. This actually came back it says let's tell you don't -- -- -- I don't blood you know I mean it's unbelievable. That anyone whatever it just just call on Paul on the try to Iran Osama. Lot of our great -- don't while the issue alien shuttle isn't whether you would pull eternal summer some when rookie right there and you -- -- -- -- over setting you could see him -- -- questions about whether he was actually there are usually Intel and -- -- -- -- -- the risk with the Pakistan fury that would come afterwards. Think he's intelligent -- a lot tighter than there are planning on being judged. I mean let's -- -- -- about what was it like an 8000 square foot compound eighteen -- we're also sure that we basically. Right next door telewest quite a Pakistani military yes so I mean you're you're not track and I mean there was obviously an extremely high value targets. And I mean you know Poodle really kind of speed yeah I mean it's not -- that Pakistan. Well it certainly. Some elements -- -- there -- up. Tour de -- intelligence service citizens you know attic they had helped -- At least -- slot arm. And and you know some -- obviously I'll write protect it out so I think the intelligence -- a lot more secure than they -- on debate. And they just didn't want the practice being used to know. You know what I'm an intelligence gathering capability we have. No -- that I am not -- that I think we truly did know she was there or not we'd also didn't know she was there. If what kind of tunnels there might have been no -- of warriors -- the surprising thing was there was nobody there to defend -- And Jimmy Carter would have been given -- There's met this and that not with the -- -- -- in the nervous my problems in music in the background there wasn't his country boy. OK he's just about to say thank god I'm a country and -- -- what a joke. Greg good morning. -- I got a monument to go back to get back to look at the story there that's great I mean theatrical back ethical like corn and mark. And confirmed that he with -- -- -- didn't pull the trigger when year's first product and there's also a memo got to come out -- says he gave the actual wall. Ability character make it a certain to one of the joint chiefs boom -- -- will work out well you. -- long ball or it's very interesting when you see authorization that was given it was it had the ass covering. In advance. Put into the notes and all operational decisions lie in the hands of blank. And you're authorized under the Easter is so basically laid out -- -- exact guy. The context within which the decision could create a game gave me commander. A library I guess that's basically it you can do his -- now is certain thing exactly and after that for got a library how close this you have to call backing a new virus they are guys who -- so it was providing all the you are mechanisms through which the president would be able to say it wasn't my fault after the fact going to get them. I memo and cowardice. And the most ironic I read a study -- so what Murray pedal that's pretty chances all the track record. Why it may -- that's why they used Bill Clinton in that and that Obama had was to. -- is basically to raise the stature of robust natural a natural Obama here I am I'll autograph a bottle by the way I try to -- made the comment in the observation the first instance that you know there was some hesitation here I'm not troubled -- every every president should hesitate. And you know that just -- you know this whole issue of how some that can quickly unravel. And not just a special operations mission such as this. But the logic decisions of of war and invasion and all the rest of that stuff. He really should hesitate to 34 times and I think most soldiers would agree with that once the decision -- -- however. He got to take the handcuffs out. You really do we have to let let soldiers be soldiers. I think if I were president I would not have authorized that -- you would not now then -- I don't it was irresponsible decision why so because. What if -- went wrong you've got a nuclear power. That is in precarious political circumstances even with the success. We have to severely damage our relationship and the whole reason more -- -- part of the world. Is to make sure Pakistan we don't care about Afghanistan we're worried about Pakistan were in Afghanistan to make sure Pakistan. Stays stable in some way and isn't destabilized unduly. By the ER nefarious forces there by al-Qaeda and by the Taliban -- so. You imagine the outrage in the uproar in the damage to our relationship and all our troops in Afghanistan if we have failed in that mission. How much by energizing your big mess you have the outrage. In the distress -- the bruised feelings and the animosity any dwellings are in the context of all. He was living among us are -- a bunch of -- -- -- -- the case so that tempers I understand tempers are hostility you know what I tell us their -- -- the hostility for ten billions of dollars in -- money in my money -- only -- -- five million. Almost -- -- you putt did you media could well let's what do we counted down and made it only to Wear -- watch how Obama's travel by Hamas cup we're talking and small money we are on our scale. Don't believe I heard -- much much I think he had to go. But speaker that memo I fart and almost identical memo from talked a proxy. Hot hot hot hot flat is -- about. Tomorrow. Caller today a final how hot. Yeah now one that was on day one out of that puts it -- generally 617266. Exceeds sixty so. Evil we're gonna fall under the Obama trap he has put a conversation on the table which is of no relevance. Is old news it's -- year old. And we have this conversation a year ago but he wants to make sure we're not talking about his failed presidents true to what the law would gag -- -- -- what else is you wanna -- -- -- I -- described him as somebody shoot as as a -- or do you think he's a pacifist so -- were both read a little bit but in any event I think he's -- it's probably say or do anything for political gain a political achievement yes he he -- where we can agree -- he would waiting to move on -- -- and all the rest of that stuff -- -- phony little -- star as -- -- our time Todd WR about why we break -- So. OK okay here. Still -- the dogs are back parking our efforts of body. Face -- she is it is it is it customary does anybody else did no is it customary for a president not just this president to do the kind of bureaucratic. Approval where. All operational decisions are left a general someone so. If -- -- -- parameters of the operation go beyond you cry -- don't. Call back to get further authorization blah blah blah. You know it it it sounds like out. A memo in Munich in intra departmental memo instead of they go. You know I I think it Indian tennis the most simple terms we think -- commanding you know the president says go and things just go but. To have the -- orders that flow around on these thanks so then the general issue directives to know what to the unit. Go. -- -- -- -- -- Whether it's customary vulnerabilities memo to have one of these you know consider your people call this the CYA Covey of handicapped. Type of memo and I wonder if that's what. Bush did for example with Iraq in Afghanistan another and so I just don't know I wonder why the president didn't send blues Warrington. Because she's chair she's such a she could've taken out of a lot of players celebrate Gerald RKO. With more -- far at this rich -- -- in Uganda says it's because the the masters. The law of the Intel for not doing in these shots. In the knee jerk to announce all the slopes -- the political. Care shooter shot him laden. All the people the revolt downstream of the Intel there was just kinda. Blown to the winds. What's your -- shot then why we can't -- it. Yeah Dion. Is it's an interesting point about Saddam bin Laden didn't we want him alive -- we've been better off. And why that instant kill and dumping in the ocean. IA integrate its good question to which I do not have an answer I wonder if it doesn't know would not have made him -- -- him up martyrdom first of all and second well. This president has himself boxed a little bit right because Guantanamo is some kind of -- moral stain. On the United States. What is Osama bin Laden and what moralis opera -- in other ones that bush was sending to Guantanamo when there are things where they -- brought him straight to the White House should. And it put him because Locke Hurley are to judge domestic domestic growth and order and fighting what affair right and I -- slept in the Lincoln bedroom. And yeah -- for a stroll around the -- had a few hours every -- have been there are some people who say -- a text message you guys really believe the Osama story what proof did they give us then they -- them in the -- -- out right. And you know some people dispute IDC I -- all but dead there isn't anything that. Somebody as a write a book now did you see that guy Rodriguez Jose Rodriguez was on sixty minutes is the only renteria and a half and he's sell the whole story about the cherish that that's great now it's brilliant -- go through at some point. Brian good morning our our kill Thomas taught here. -- -- -- -- -- -- You know try and not about -- bet I bet and the most. Hypocrisy you're using Bill Clinton what Bill Clinton called Obama and I are good guys -- had to go out. It wasn't much back -- what it's like yelling when you're gonna when the federal government offered us. A bit -- and there -- silver platter air 30 amber amber and eat it where -- Tanzania and Kenya. Are all out what's been armed -- we're here is quite a bit -- card. He was concerned about your body your US government are in my US oil and all the other crap -- after that -- -- out of -- or call. Finally. I think that adds to the credibility because Clinton and looked back and say maybe I do the wrong thing and here's a brave guy who did the right out of the idea I I agree with -- on that one Brian I think he you know in unity and in a way it's an implicit admission on Clinton's spot hey I -- -- I could've maybe should've. Blob blob blob that this guy is a guy who did itself. It in a way I think it's Clinton's kind of assay and hailed -- -- -- wink wink. What what -- -- -- -- because we're not add extra -- some comparing Obama probably. We're gonna speculate it probably would hate to be patient but we all know but Clinton. Are actually now that it be I wanna look great president's multi Bill Clinton got that -- that that's a great point and and to try to allay some type of you know responsibility. Bought absence of determination and and Mitt Romney's footsteps and -- -- Bryant is really reach on the part of Obama do you dream he doesn't care now he's distracting us and it's working. Because we're talking about it will continue -- we'll continue because this is a good top yeah I don't know why but it is and the president is just it pisses me off that the president has the ability. Just because he's the president well he can repeated it he can be reading Superman comics. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- All that -- trend that was doing that for the troops in Houston was cut short tracks you know -- little party for the good good. Good try you know what I don't. It was opponent no political gesture or no question about while they were mixing in but just nothing wrong with doing what he was doing on an operational level that was the right thing to do he went out there -- celebrated with the troops that was great. Are so there's a little TV coverage you throw that in alongside you -- at the end the main problem with this. Is the attack on Mitt Romney yes decorate the main break -- -- what it reveals that cheap this of this president in his willingness to do anything to make sure we're not talking about what ms. horrible Iranians Jane good morning Eric gale. Good morning. I can't believe that through the year ago I. When I first heard on the radio that Obama -- Osama was killed I turned on Fox News. And they were waiting for the president to make a statement and that they can run at the bottom. It was things Osama bin Laden was shot two weeks to go. In Pakistan. And then Obama -- on anything this morning I alone gave the word. To kill him and then about it I called you about that and then about an hour lady having -- to lift up our own. She was an -- I get from Middle East expert. And she said that she was watching CNN and suddenly became thing. That he was killed two weeks. -- week prior to the -- of surprise to the mission. Yeah are -- Indy what this hoopla that we're waiting for Obama to come on think -- made his statement and saying I'm Osama bin Laden shot. The two weeks ago in Pakistan and then he come back and said I -- I can't get the word this morning. To go ahead this. He's on the Tonight Show Friday -- net. Talking about the Braves. Throw everybody off track debate watch by the president by attacking Mitt Romney's claiming that Mitt Romney. Would not have found would not have gone after bin Laden. And it's a good distraction for everybody so that we don't focus on the terrible economy the collapse and recoveries and for the first quarter remember when the president was declaring victory over the economy couple months ago. Couple months ago to do you remember recovery summer. Now this right up your results here ten -- they're those two years ago I think that was 2010. Wow yeah. 2010. By the way here's a great -- very insightful text. If you're in general under Obama -- would ask for the order writing to. Good cause that -- that that's right where they had all this is a CY -- kind of maneuver the president the general says PayPal. I've seen enough of this again. I think any good bureaucrat they know the the guy was on sixty minutes the CIA interrogator at the head of the that whole dark side of the CIA was led the Lesley Stahl thank you now want Jose Rodriguez. He said he went back to several times for approvals from everybody on what he was doing to make sure he wouldn't be out to dry when it happens. And he was right to do that his bureaucrats. That's what they do. I think one of the worst things the Obama administration did was when they came in. They then put everybody including new legal counsel at CIA and Justice Department Romero had signed off on this through that -- absolutely through the ring around. -- -- -- Well he had this big -- about being -- -- itself so he had to last satisfy. That part of his base well you don't have to satisfy that brought you -- -- you ever you have executives in serious responsibilities as a present the United States you don't go back and -- subject -- prosecution. People who fulfill the duties to the best of their ability there's nothing criminal about what they did. If you think from an international perspective the US is playing it. Who writes and marking this anniversary or if you think that you might as the eyes. Against excessive celebration. Well. -- couple court's first democracy. Christina. Our respective you've seen any excessive celebration. Taking place it. I think that people. The American people rightly. Remember. What we as a country accomplished. That is sad to say our president. Doing his best to keep this conversation alive while pretending. To not -- 6172666860. What do you think about this whole conversation first of -- The let's go for the bait and talk about whether or Mitt Romney would have done. What Barack Obama did did you Barack Obama do the right thing was this handled the way you think it should have been handled that's old news but it's -- again because the president wants is talking about it. And then there's the whole conversation -- it's 8080. We have to acknowledge and I -- I think give peace give some credit right up front it is an accomplishment there's no question about -- 98% of the country is elated. The -- the fact that -- got Osama but that's already -- you're an and you know when -- when McCain in now Obama well locked in their fight if four years ago there's also to speculation all this going to be an October surprise the bush people know where he is -- gonna get a McCain will get them. It's kind of the benefit of that bounce and that success and all the rest that stuff. You get him one you can get him and whether that's going to be bush wrote might have benefited McCain know and now it's oh Obama. Give radios give the credit the navy at the about it in and letting it play out as an achievement of the administration. You have to do the notion that anyone has a clue as to what Mitt Romney would do. -- is a series really is and that's what bothers me more than anything else about this whole. You know three player and in normal in a normal situation you would say well let's is good politics if if some admits job is to convince people what he would do -- so what's wrong with these his opponent putting the question on the table. Well I I think honestly I think it. -- and inappropriately politicized is something and it is not anything you can prove or disprove other than what Romney did and I think he did it very well he said I certainly would have given the ought to even Jimmy got a would have done it now so in. In a very very short and pithy response he reminds people of the president. Who most resembles. Obama or at least in the eyes of many voters -- render -- and Obama won on the Zenyatta petrol and a lot of economic issue. Other thing is the president is taking a -- remarks by Mitt Romney completely out of context Mitt Romney was challenging the notion. I'm having an anti al-Qaeda campaign. That was geared around getting Osama bin Laden rather than other strategies he wasn't saying any thing. About -- that would lead you to believe that he wouldn't. Pull the trigger when Thomas -- 617266. Exceeds sixty what do you think about the whole debate. What would you do. I don't think I would have authorized this trade if I had been president I'd -- -- and that was again based upon it's John the Pakistan getting bin Laden was great for symbolic purpose -- just was not the critical in terms of al-Qaeda. Because he was no longer that driver into the leader and that powerful leader al-Qaeda I don't think. Let -- -- -- -- first molester. Probably -- I hardly think -- you've seen any excessive celebration. Taking place. I think there's people. The American people -- I like music. -- is up there on the dads will like he's well aware there's there's. We're 3000 person. That's a president he's got a box over his shoulder this. OK okay -- Mr. Use that time. Celebrate then -- not do enough good. Saw volume due to it's America that's. A moment that. Could -- get everybody's. It's. And maybe lose. Hello replied hello there Mr. President -- You would if you were jamming it down this -- John good morning again by. Tony guys it's it's gone. And I think and I just Arianna Obama stand but I I will tell you it's a 28 -- -- in the military just got back from Afghanistan and -- or you can't I why you have black approximately medevac pilot from the one thing. -- -- The president doesn't have is operational control but if that that that the -- lowest level commander wants that any sort generals on down are gonna do that all you want from the president has to go water -- didn't think he is supposed to protect themselves and everybody disposed to protect them also so. He's never gonna know the details of any of these missions so. William didn't look -- done that. Are you -- in advance he would never know. That's sure yes. So that it's I have Freddie said -- quiet for our benefit task force 16 -- that that -- brought Erin did that mission and I'm in notebook the last the president and diminish duration knows. The better -- everybody is in the world. Well. -- would explain why isn't. I'm because stated its -- to roll out try to cans of those who do have operational control -- you can't have. People that don't really know what it's doing and you know if you look at the administration must have been. And all these people are really bright people but they don't know if you have military are. Casting techniques or whatever and that model Dell -- out. Doesn't he had the joint chiefs -- in his national security advisor does not again not to go -- -- DTL by detailed step by step from the first lord of the third floor took caught a bedroom not that kind of detail. But the arrogant kind of jet. -- if I'm the president and it seems to me I wanna know okay. Where is the team we're navy team that navy seal team six located how are they gonna get -- what's the redundancy to get them in and out safely first and foremost. What do we expect what is the Intel and so go over intelligence as well as military. Capability and their capacity. You're correct they gonna he's gonna wanna know all of that stuff home and -- -- -- that's. But dug in basically it's going to be you know. I'll what's going to be the collateral damage and what we'll let due to us so. He's gonna wanna know where the civilians how we're gonna protect them and no -- and you know let's put it this goes wrong about what what what is gonna happen how was this all gonna play out so but the details -- who does what when and where we're not as they -- -- Obviously believe us again how -- it's out how many out overseas missions have you had. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Thank you for your service thank you are you thank you for the call I appreciate it well. 6172666. -- succeed. Well look Romney is certainly right when he says. I would've done that there's nobody of prominence in Washington would not have done. Rather than by his own admission the menus are peel away from the presidency. Joseph Biden. That's true thank you that was a stroke and helped out by and that was that guy tell us who Biden was -- saying not yet Mr. President -- let's check it out a little further. But that's what is therefore to be ignored. Hot hot hot hot hot but at the beautiful job -- -- and that's -- insult my god that's what you. All my by about so big controversy over what happened a year ago what's controversial about it for -- and how do you feel about the president politicizing do you think it's inappropriate. To be for me the problem is turning the spotlight on Mitt Romney. What he's doing is being everybody he said he wasn't going to be he's been the cheapest most manipulative. Most politicizing must divisive. Presidents you could ever imagine any campaign and obviously opposite. As far as. My personal role in. What other folks wouldn't do. I just recommend Gerber took a look at people's previous statements. We're very close appropriate to -- in the -- -- Take out the line. I assume. They said when they said. I think whether Mitt Romney said was -- he was questioning the drone attacks. Inside Pakistan and that's what he's being escorted 6172666860. Short break -- -- Todd WRK.