Hockey hits and sucker punches

Wow yeah. -- -- Little transmit. You walk wherever like this like a home a little water for half. Sorry that's Thomas touch -- watching my network capital funding corporation your future are financed. So I'm I'm look at this hockey hit its all over TV. And there what do they do when they finally they weren't criminal charges or leave Paris -- Arizona boy who was hit the guy is is it how can play it was a high school hockey -- -- -- in Massachusetts by the way it's a local story. Was -- Very very aggressively and other parents is seeking criminal charges against the kid who led the day yet so magistrates -- -- look at whatever magistrate this death and you know all I think he'll just see a hockey hit I don't know how that could. In its wildest interpretation. I don't think you could be viewed it could be viewed as may be a little too aggressive it could be over violation require a two minute penalty. I don't see how anybody could say. That this kind of thing that really is appropriate for criminal charges you agree or just an idea I'd say it's I think it's a very very close call put on close calls close call -- -- -- just about. It's close because a kid who well levees that -- was absolutely content you could tell he was sent to you watch that you watched and we just washed it in there about a dozen times. And he's cruising down the the right side you know he's he is lying and he's line in this kid up the allocated already shocked that he wasn't in the process of shooting wasn't handled in the park or anything else. But it's kind of split second it's you know second before -- -- things that you are right and just being young and it has occupied. It was. It was absolutely. Avoidable -- -- hockey you don't have to avoid -- -- did you always want that he was he was he in in my opinion he was -- I still would if I was a clerk magistrate I would not issued the challenge. It's it's because it's a questionable call. They're it's their first of college so it's a close call in my opinion and secondly hockey it's part of sport. So this is like -- o'clock this just doesn't like football -- you already know normally yes he looked at it you wouldn't. Go for the chart I don't think directories on your RBIs called the call the penalty now sometimes that's because the referees are watching another pot of the first disk writer -- I don't think they're watching too far off from him. But but so -- given what you just described it doesn't sound vaguely like something that would be -- and wouldn't be horrible. If if chip charges were filed in this kind of case what would happen to sports. How would you be able to play sports anymore -- Well you know that's this is this is happening is happening more and more more Zdeno Chara last year up from Montreal with a check. -- -- Canadians into the boards and there's all sorts of there's something you're half right course of a game and there are some things like. Remember that Olbermann Teddy Green and Wayne -- and did agree and remember him very well they're going into his head and -- -- a -- -- in his head and everything -- has -- a fractured -- that was that was charged criminally as those of us beyond that was appropriate because that is part of the game is not take a stick and winding it up and putting it through -- -- -- -- all right and they did today if I recall they had almost out of the square off because they do sometimes and argue that dropped the gloves and there is just gonna be -- the fist -- Which some people frowned on and there -- a lot of other people enjoy of Wayne meant to Green was a tough guy. He was a very tough guy a lot of people -- really afraid of them and I think that was way back you know defense when -- wads up as you distract fooled. I cannot. Tomahawk China with a stick right of the -- reserves that is I don't know maybe -- -- a couple cases of charges being filed -- talked about to occur in professional sports. Marty McSorley the rose player never charged with what he did tibia and Donald would share I don't know him in the head with a stick -- Remember that was a that was another -- kind of local incidents of vote of renown of -- right I was out here 078. Years ago so they -- helmets on. Was a helmet on when I get this guy and he wound up and smacked. Off ahead like like a baseball bat you know -- this stick the guy went down so if you look at professional sports now there was that that video we -- earlier in the week of the basketball color forget his name has changed his name right prolong the album we're meta -- world peace -- idea -- warfare -- world. Peace is at least she's being a truly global. And he's totally contradicting his position. But he's throwing elbow that was clearly had nothing to do with the game of basketball was an assault now if there's a criminal charges that I have no problem don't find -- it was an -- so -- -- -- coming on the same side -- you can Madonna sounds like on the -- said the question because it's in the midst of a hockey game in hockey game has -- -- checking is still a -- -- of it. That this could this that this is a close enough -- so you'd say no call no criminal or are criminal charge look at I can't even see how anybody would consider criminal -- I have -- as a normal course of the game is not. There's no cheating going on in that head he's -- head hunting he could have been flying within head to head trying to hurt the guy he could've been. Punching them while he did it none of the things that would make it achieve shower going on except that it was a cheap shot if I know I'm not saying it's not Uga is a borderline cheap shot maybe because he can't buy dot CNET com angry kid this kid did not see it come and and the guy the kid who made the hit. Was obviously crews and just to hit somebody now and again that's spy -- because -- this hit this kid. 'cause -- what this kid did him a minute ago we haven't seen our show and that's part of the -- -- you defend yourself -- do you not do you keep peace by by being anti Indian violin. All they can have been words exchanged between the two earlier in the game or something. Well words are different then German words when justify. I hit -- we don't know there's a history between the two players and provoked each other and in this player left his feet. To hit the kid I disagree we -- shoulder or not he threw his hands up as he had a move that's the only thing I mean I even knew he had their players so -- spun around himself and landed on the ice it which which is actually why he ER ER he just saying that he left his feet on the street and around -- 11 state outrebounded it was his feet off off the ice and -- your favourite analogy when -- get that right look at us. Right skate watch his rights gays in Constant Contact with the ice to his left foot came up because he's it was used in a pure -- after the hit. That's all Owens try to present times life I believe his right foot stays in contact with the ice anyway throughout do you would you were growing hockey if you file charges in this case and PU would you have to make it like a flag hockey. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Yeah who -- the -- they eat the -- kid apparently. Five weeks. For out of school. In a darkened room for weeks weeks weeks kind of in Kosovo -- And -- play hockey anymore it's obvious consequences circular was hit I've been pretty -- in the navy when he got to leave immediately what the consequences determine your judgment on the on the ball every -- going into it no -- you know at half the kids who play high school football deal with stuff like that or you certainly don't they are in college and professional. Professional colors are maimed for life a lot of them by just from -- insurance. I think it's kind of ridiculous -- no way this issue at high school hockey coach Mike Breen who is at the game at the body in January when one of his players checked the ducks great player so hard. He gave the teenage severe concussion. You -- there's a news story was up from -- Channel seventh. Thank you folks a channel seven Purdue in the story -- so it's and it's a good video -- to watch it really does and you know it didn't Steny. Reactions to whether the should be criminal behavior not 617. 2666860. Jeff good morning -- RKO. What's up Jeff. Well -- You probably want but what a cheap shot or whatever but -- -- at least that's -- tool or you know what you -- up to play a sport is trying out. From what could barrels daily look at -- but terribly into it and written already gone up and understands -- -- in New York playing the Rangers game. Don't speak it well you. -- -- -- -- Start to get hurt. You can't go to what NASCAR race. Without looking at development bigotry that are so caught I was up until you we're not at all you know the UK bit into this sport you start in the war on -- -- -- individual sport in good. -- Sorry you're your -- no good today Jeff. It's it seems to me that this would absolutely dismantled sports as we know what that maybe that's the goal. Have we gotten too far in the -- with verification of America here to actually maintain contact sport and don't just. Just because you're set to play -- high school hockey doesn't mean you give up all right see a body that you anyone can do whatever they want because hey that's a jacket that's what happens I grew into. I had I was gonna -- -- I don't think this is any evidence of the kind of the will suffocation of America. The kids a high school hockey no I think Israel are charges I have EL YDIA this isn't the fact that his parents want to charges filed. And they use an indication at all suddenly gonna turn the game it's -- totally we're still looking at sometime that I think is if Charlie judicious deliberate not a hockey and. Assault on all your battery on their side if charges. Were filed in this field would even Begin the shot down -- contact sports and the question is. Is that where reform reached -- we got to that point where we can no longer have contact sports because parents. You their kids are being too precious. And they don't want them engaged in that kind of activity so they don't want to school so basically a school systems endorsing an operating. These leagues of violence right if this is if this is a criminal activity somebody in hockey it's a little too hard. And maybe is even though it's not out of an official penalty call. The debt they think it's violent enough for criminal charges may hoosiers move beyond the point in our society. Where people are willing to have their children doing that maybe they should be suing the school systems for operating these so violent. Zones when kids are in danger. I'm trying to remember the specifics of the Chara things don't happen last year the Zdeno Chara one onion wasn't -- -- against the Canadians. I think he kind of rode a Canadian into the boards in the it is they have those straps that tells the glass and place him. Closer Zdeno Chara is about 69 he's a huge grandson his fault -- puts -- it's exactly but you know his shoulder and -- kind of grind in the -- into the the post and saw all the Canadian fans in -- ungodly -- -- this -- -- some of the government officials -- there's his beyond the pale and everything else in -- sand that's been hockey for a hundred years. You know you his ride the guy out away from the net it is amazing how violent professional hockey is exodus doesn't carry very -- can't -- -- the fighting just anymore in the game is gone much more violent. A phrase -- good morning your RKO. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- And you may check directed right yeah okay you don't get paid much. But concern and -- hockey sense. The one thing I wanted to say about the hockey. It is you concede that times are changing because people have not tolerate the moment my outlook. You know you remember back what we would keep and they used to not even wearing a helmet so you'll get beat each other that -- Yeah well maybe that's why the game at the game strikes me -- more violent I don't watch it very often but I watch some of the Bruins -- -- -- I like it didn't -- I -- -- -- but I'm just saying I used to watch it during the or SP -- years now and it seems much more violent to me now and maybe that's because there weren't -- well on football the argument in football is that helmets and shoulder is. Particularly helmets. And it didn't turn dream you know after in the plays into launching pad Cindy just -- you just launch. Amnesia head as a spear as a weapon a smearing has always been around. They were nice them I'm not not be in the technical word here in in hockey usage and talking about football you speed is somebody that Georgia head if you are using you head in US trying to you really get god it's I mean it's great weapon. But you can -- it wouldn't be used quite so frequently if there was an Obama that's exactly right that's -- that's exactly right no question about 6172666. -- or -- there's another video of violence and that is a kids sucker punching and delicate -- friend of videotapes and instantly posted on the Internet so this to rule violations of any sense of human decency. One is the assault. The second is the the premeditated tape diocese Arianna that's in -- that's a Franklin high school now that one is capsule in my opinion. Is absolutely gonna call it that is all that's not that's not on the ice you know that's not on the football field that is that's that the league is a criminal charges that are coming out about the criminal how much money in his family of a victim gonna get from family of the assault turn that's gonna be worth a house search of 6172666860. Thomas Todd WRKO. -- soft sponge -- Sometimes WRKO. Nothing criminal going on there seems to me Jared what do you think you're -- -- -- talk. Hey -- thank god. I think -- full blown way out of proportion a little the next sound all from dark very young and you know I live like certain ground or you'll go forward here and playing. School's sports yeah bet some about a I was. What the -- -- -- -- look -- for -- girl can these these kids can't they get. So you think it's a iams years has been -- very had a couple of state champ football teams in the past two or three years four years they they have put some really good teams out I guess I just. They just run really fast. Fatah Arafat's Lockerbie. Possible -- -- these kids are like darkened dark in the dirt and rock group they're not. They're not real. I don't know and Alec adopt kids like. If you are kids in -- there what the on the roof present stop almost did commit its its so you think that's gone. Yeah I think you -- aren't suspects very kids they're all -- and the parents are just the type of people. -- true wouldn't -- press charges and -- it's cool sport to get a deal -- now. Well that's what gets me thank you Jarrett for the call what gets me about this is the desire of the parents to intervene it's not that the son who's. Saying I was -- attacked it's the parents. And there's an epidemic of parents. This become a cliche sticking up for their kids wanting to go fight fights on behalf of their kids when. As you like to point out Tom a generation ago your parents would be what what went on the other side lined up against you generally they thought you've done something or come. Aviator you -- if you would give in the teaches some Barack talked to some lip are cop for a priest to some them might doubt -- parents weren't taken you aside in any of -- -- alleging. Police brutality. Teacher hostility. Are any of that other stuff give the parents would say you. You know if there's an expectation in this family and you've disappointed us and dove. End of whatever the heck else is going on and not the it just so and in this case you know eating your kid signs up for hockey have a little -- you -- understand where you're getting yourself into you'll love the sport though it's a violent sport be careful we don't know and -- getting -- if you -- high school hockey and other -- to -- -- pretty good teams out there is that the little bit that I saw. -- -- these kids have been playing hockey since they were probably five he has all they know what. What the risks are they know what the behavior is out on the ice it's a whole different thing this this assault and and you know there's a whole media aspect of this going on because. The idea that everything kids do they videotape now got a special and harassing journalists -- brings up whole whole different level. There was the situation in -- at Norfolk. Franklin Franklin Franklin where I kid gets sucker punch and they videotape this -- that was a setup looks just a it's an astounding level of stupidity. On on the part of the the at least two people who are involved in this ambush and that's what it is is an ambush this is a wise this is just a sucker punched that is planned. Some -- his walk another car guy is hang a right on the side of the wall lay out. And then comes flying off the wall throws a right he had never sees it coming never -- and -- and it is now it's not up it's out of particularly good punch to be perfectly honest I mean I watched it a couple of times in this -- -- you don't like his -- this -- is -- this -- -- the kid who threw the -- would get a real good -- -- a couple of he would get a real but good indeed not to get -- assemble a -- -- -- big swollen -- black -- -- -- you know -- -- -- I don't -- Celsius which is seeing a lot more in doubt that kind of stuff but so -- the guy who throws the -- and as to your point. There's somebody else -- involved in this just gonna watch -- is obvious film this is like they dislike a little Spielberg's and to make an eight you know what a scene from the next movie they've posted this thing -- I'm apparently Cabrera within moments -- Of the assault. So that both of them both of them should be judged both of them yeah but the war it. This thing that I find most striking him out is that part of this is they want to elevate their own steam in the school down. By doing something that everybody should find important it's one thing if you want if you -- -- -- -- -- fight with them and you guys agreed -- a fight you -- out of school -- out of the seal up the ball field but to attack some and he never -- -- -- come into -- and to do it as part of a conspiracy to make a videotape. So that you can show how tough you are yeah it always kind of school you well Vegas and I don't Karl this is the act of somebody -- -- -- incredibly stupid. And incredibly how would like -- -- a tough guy -- you gotta get exactly how. Hi eight and throw the sign a pledge tough guys say hey you -- I -- I get a lot maybe we can settle this I'll see you are in the ball field and then there's so the real question is here is what is wrong with kids and what is wrong with the Internet to people feel protected. In doing this kind of behavior that so pork out. And why and that brings us into the whole Bruins thing where you have these tweets going on these. Tweets that are so disgusting -- the -- off -- -- just off my I cannot them. Imagine that anyone's life is so insignificant. That they resort to this type but vile language because the Bruins lost a hockey I totally understand that all -- gonna look people -- drinking people are charged up there are emotional they said there what there's there's Smartphones and they say dumb things -- hand. I don't I that doesn't surprise me at -- what surprises me is that people think they can't be found out especially when courtship was pointing out a lot of they. Kids who were doing this were high school kids and they use their names social and David Erica this is so stupid but I don't yet I don't like the fact that we and I know we will will get diverted through a of a moment that you may be considerable period of time about the stupidity. Did it I mean this this and the vial -- out of this this pulls back a little cover was something that maybe you and I. Have sugar coated a little bit any would be the dimension. Of race saw racism. Moran our I don't think there's a sign erase all this is absolutely assign a -- the -- -- a goal and their Colin who's visibly put an end. Because he is why are coming off Irish what would they be called couldn't know what they're there what is said what is that should they be saying something about the Washington Capitals on that god where's -- yeah. They're saying how OK shape the -- -- should he be in a car. -- stock and if he was Italian no Colin whatever you call Italians would you call them this. Walks down right now and if it was a Jew and if there was a while polish and I want covered I don't event I do not think so all I do take it -- polish guy had scored the goal to beat the Bruins are already been no mention at all I thought I tell you. Yes I don't go yes I do well you I don't -- you just disqualified yourself from rational -- I say just. -- -- I don't think it was them targeting him just to be racist that they that was the perceived. They gonna say some mean everyone -- so that means nothing because they weren't angry in this would be upset them so they said that's what they said -- but I think it's a sign of liking the kkk taken over Bruins yes this means. Charles bass pro -- thought well there's no -- angry tweets include race sister remarks after a black guy on the Washington Capitals beat the -- gets -- winning goal is that a sign a racist so -- so earlier in the season out of maybe an exhibition game -- Detroit is something a black guy scores a goal and fans angry fans throw like a couple of bananas on the onto the idea how did it happen yes it did happen. Is rare day where they were ADV you know who they are ready to -- so you know it is as good as early as I thought -- watermelon -- something like. The only -- you -- to help people -- -- well. I had to come with the rooms they don't -- -- -- is a watermelon guardian and a dictionary watermelons and enter the arena that I know Irish -- management as well isn't this really happens army did you being no no ahead. Of course I -- I read it last night I could not make it up I was astounded. But did not tell if this this this recent these tweets. This -- 2003 I think this big -- that's the pride that Hillary was not -- this was weeks this early in itself off market basket -- vicious -- -- all of yards all about the guy you race that's what it's about -- was a -- all I'm saying he just lucky he was he was all -- -- -- nothing particular about his race if he was Hispanic they would -- called -- ticker where every -- has -- I don't think -- -- One shots don't think so to say -- sexy as the -- -- kind of what does not post what doesn't work from me at all why. But what us a bit -- Billy O Dwyer is gonna school logo they gonna say awe that thick necked. How Holland and the California hasn't had a sold a breath and -- -- would -- then how far back not meant absolutely and I Thomas Todd WR an idea. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I good morning gentlemen did not have -- something with the Americans -- yeah I'm it was when the guy was done penalty shot. -- little banana peel. It would strike you know it's been done before it had not been deliberation try to you know -- -- -- the am you yeah I can't talk on the banana. All so it's uncharted -- ways that no not -- are you love me I always did warn you Al Sharpton now okay misery border you'll have amore I didn't. -- -- I generally don't march. Job inside the earlier. Degrees -- mostly.