Rep. Shaunna O'Connell (R-Taunton) On Welfare Reform Passage

You know what happened last night with the IE BT card suddenly they waited until there was past deadline basically for the newspapers and the 11 o'clock TV news was off the air India finally passed that he passed -- version. By Sean no models. Amendment in Brussels homes amendment. And he was passed overwhelmingly a 122. -- to 33. -- but it unfortunately does not in the cash for the cash pay out. With the EBT cards -- that's the as as -- settlement for a house last night that's the that's the most important thing if you don't stop stop them if you don't stop people from getting cash them nothing else matters. So why represented Sean O'Connell from -- and are you -- how -- how happy can you be about -- what happened last night. Actually it is a great -- again that's almost all the way there. And we do have to wait a little bit longer for the -- these but it's still ordered -- Because what we got everything about it on the on prohibition of cars that all the stores -- on -- Clothing retailer it recipients comfortable with -- and quicker elimination of benefits. On the -- source at science for your amnesty used to find the trafficking the cards and charging decent or they think carts. So the one case we started to catch -- and the -- -- dispatched. We're going to be hiring a company that is -- comment and tell us how we can implement the castle system because it never happened -- So you know prior we can say look. Department of transitional assistance. You figure out how you vendor payments are these people -- you're on don't -- us. Now instead about where I -- somebody and we're gonna child -- idea. I think it's better deal because we get to have control over how it's done. Yet but I mean Deval Patrick the governor -- EC you know he still seems to be dead set against this -- mean these are his constituent your going after our communities are these is most loyal lot. Base you know people that need this for for their bail bond for the cigarettes for their alcohol you know I mean -- he doesn't he doesn't wanna go up against his base. You know what's interesting -- you know pretty good built because people got up and they were screaming yelling about it. And it was after that however I hear he also said that he is not against. Limiting some kind of cash so he's he's moving over a little but it sounds like to make. Expect it never said that before and now he's saying -- you know at my expense stolen sometime accounts and they also set up but I like it might make -- I like the way cities he was on the -- was on another radio station this morning he said nobody ever told -- about the photo IDs. Gee he's really been following the debate closely as an English on a few -- I like photo. Ridiculous statement nobody ever I -- a lot of people have been talking about is the photo -- an attack so. Maybe you should -- barrels a little more -- Yeah I know he's yeah I mean he knows that we make a -- we're we're just out there to make people angry to think you wanna see what we're doing the make people angry but apparently not. Thank you wanna read other anecdotal stories that -- bank about it. That's right well now what about the the fact that you know like it's kind of cynical -- all these Democrats go along with us you know me but I I really enjoyed the roll call vote because they were read my column for tomorrow -- that this is. This is one of those litmus test roll call votes you know if you can't be for this and -- -- I think that the I think that that leadership is kind of like give animal week analog you may disagree with that. Saying you know that we're not we can hurt him hurt the welfare people how much we know they're your voters etc. So well you know what we'll just do this cash being very slowly if we do -- at all but that's still wasn't good enough for 33 of these people. 3033. People that don't want any kind of form. In this. It's amazing and a half and it breaks down about half have. Half of -- from these moon -- communities to peoples republics of chamber edgy and new wooten and Somerville and I hate to say at Wellesley and Amber's. And then the other half where there are rough from the for from the inner city areas. Yet you know how these are reasonable reform does somebody get up there and that we shouldn't limit any of it -- it's their money based vehicles and how they want so if they wanna go buy alcohol that's fine and you know everybody out there that's listening note that that is not we have every right. To step limits on program when we give people money. What I like -- as I guess somebody else sent to war to two -- today 12 books of welfare recipients on no one -- one of these commission's recent well that's really good thing because all the people all the people who work serving here and opining they've never been on welfare. Would you you know what I. How about I don't think we need anybody on welfare -- because of the we're talking about spending taxpayers' money and most people on welfare have never worked so what else would they know about. Paying money you know or about paying money that taking money as the -- And the governor aviation find out what he's talking about forty -- that because she doesn't know about to be true that the ass to give that product commission whether that ever found out there. I'm not grew up with my mom and that he only compound things. And the projects so you know we got the public assistance when I was young and up -- are good parents I made it out and and you know I've had a good lights. But I work very very hard for it so for him to sit there and say that is very discontent. Yeah our region exact focus there really isn't it irritating statement when a caller from homes for family suggest that the governor point welfare recipient. To the commission will study cash was benefits Patrick says what a great idea because we do have a lot of people who haven't walked in the issues opining about it. Yes so you know he obviously doesn't always talking. Amid a lot of people -- those benefits they have walked -- anybody's shoes because they've been on the couch for the last five or ten or fifteen years you know -- like a -- Clark yeah ordering someone to go get him to bail money for his latest. I -- I. I get a little skeptical too about you know growing followers doing and another commission and with -- people but it has to be because I wanna do it the right way nobody can say that we got there every step we had to go through to get the Catholic system. So we have to -- a little bit longer but I think what we got is a huge victory it's everything we need and we just have to get to accept -- itself. Gonna take longer but I'm a very patient person and I'm very persistence. And I'm gonna keep on -- 1877469432218774694322. Of you wanna talk to was Sean O'Connell. You know one thing I enjoyed a roof roof -- from -- You know was says she said that she is so well what about -- a woman wants to to go I didn't look for a job she won't be able to. You do you lipstick. Our message is just like Saturday Night Live here urged as a real debate they won't be able to buy new lips spec. -- around you know. How much has lipstick cost because about three -- doesn't it. Yeah. In the other thing added on your credit Patrick that ordered the woman needs to go -- -- Stanford job interview. Excuse me. I don't I don't get -- -- You know I can't afford it's whether it's going to cut out what we're not -- able to get their nails done for a job interview I mean that was really over the top -- Yeah it though like like -- Swann from Springfield and I'm still trying to figure out he's ever finally paid his property taxes and Springfield and way behind in recent. Just like for you to just just like to ask everybody tonight to leave this alone in other words. All we're saying is give fraud a chance you know just -- just don't know anything about this. How can. How could these people stand up there and expect the taxpayers to just continue. You know while allowing this kind of nonsense to go on this we're talking about millions tens of millions if not hundreds of millions of college being wasted on this program. I don't I don't understand it either anywhere they get up there at eight today you know there's there are honest broker a few years they only get this much money. It's you know it's not the whole story because there are some need waivers that you could stay on the program for more than two years. And they're getting so many different kinds of assistance went on you know the public. -- here. So we have to put a stop somewhere and it's not mean to -- that you can apple aren't cigarettes with your state taxpayer funded money. -- they say that they have the right to do anything they want with the money it's it's not the the we understand it's not their money you know it's it's the taxpayers' money. This is charity I don't care what do what you want equality the is -- It is charity forcibly collected by the by the it -- yeah I think extortion. There is right exactly Mike your next with how we aren't representative Sean O'Connell go ahead Mike. I like a Elliott -- Florida. Again and we elected to the legislature. Yeah yeah. I would a couple of it was excellent. All you want that Europe. Didn't blow it you know apparently at least -- -- had been put parity is. I would I can go oh in the bucket so large it was a quarter or. There were two weapons fortunately they attached to -- -- -- in the action. Sure enough the -- DP seek out there like copy. To rebuild that. And by the way awarding of the the and I what they're litigation in the -- -- quarter and didn't happen Abbott. I have a lot like our compact that the court would get my copy it to pop by the weight again when he PG cart and take action. The picture yeah I got there yet they get a cat's back. Into that now that. Gonna congratulate you on -- -- we're lucky we -- you keep it up. Thanks very much thanks for the call you know highlight that food -- which are mean people aren't spending its money I mean if you go by going after coffee. Do you really need this money. And it up and went two of the top stores that but these cart is that two of the top ten stores are convenience stores right. Set that was a 1001 of the most interesting pieces of most of the first blue ribbon commission. The more people more people spend money at 7-Eleven than they do what market basket which is generally speak in the cheapest supermarket I mean if these people are really what we're really concerned about making ends meet -- market basket not at 7-Eleven. I know anything it's you know it's it's such a waste of money this topic convenience stores so. People aren't using the money in the best way that they can't admit it it's obvious especially when eighty side. That has taken out a cast what are people doing with all that cash. Right we know what we know what they're -- -- al-Qaeda and we know I anecdotal it's ideology anecdotes governor but says -- Even those Susie and bump doesn't -- anecdotes anymore. Mark mark mark you're next with how we -- Sean O'Connell go ahead. In -- I know. You know pocket yet Edmonton did put an end and get. Him to -- big players in the big. And and and it would have been on these. I have something -- will be wary of being put on there. We're not you know you're willing he says it he said how if I don't have my EBT card how -- getting in my Viagra every month -- and he says he's not he's not a joke and are you put us on market. He's the hung up. Chris your next with how we cargo ahead Chris. Kelly yeah yeah yeah. That this is a 100% true story after the last week and then you guys talk about the stuff I actually. I have five children and I and I don't let them make over a 100000 dollar here that. I decided what to our local. DHS. Department in the state of Maine and I took my old school security my my real obscurity but my five children I may -- Social Security numbers. I went to this -- -- that had been unemployed for a year and I don't have any money I don't know what to do kind of let it is that yes I went this Scotiabank with down. And then and they got the important part -- -- -- -- have my a W two from last year you wanna see that and I was only gonna say I didn't have a -- -- that it wanted to say no we don't need that. Prove me they approve me for a thousand dollar -- want them in food stamps. 490 dollars in Canada which I got to go to so we're meeting which I'm not gonna go to duke. And they gave me -- care. Without looking at any documents -- I fake Social Security numbers. And and I called the pride that -- mark I called immediately after that and said that a need don't need to stop bubble up so I mean and there are probably a bit of fraud and all the but that's how. Bazaar and upsetting and it's that the Mac. You should call a page crescent and -- I mean look pay the governor would be appalled -- if he knew that story. They didn't want. Any documentation of what they know -- They want my W two and I would approach the same Baylor in the daunting it is appropriate or what but can't have. Which I got to go to from. Actual. Burner I don't what they had -- some media it took some orientation and it would be on my EVE card to date later. Edit that to your absolutely right. You're tell anybody that. And that it probably arrest you her. Right up I reluctantly I'll probably get -- -- all the some sort of product that I use my real -- security number but I made up I think when he. This is actually look up Polly that's ridiculous. And. Well how many people they can't how many times you read a story in the newspaper someone gets arrested -- -- for drugs. And that they get and they catch him and they don't have wander one EDT march on they are RK EBT cards. That brought any building. That office building with absolutely hack it took me hour and a half is that. The out the median which it took place we -- in the actual vote for probably twenty minutes and -- it out of there. Andy did this in disgust and. If they want everything roberts' stance bit -- check. Anything and that's the problem they say they count on -- sector bounces and I know they're not using them I can't. Always tell you they didn't ask for ID I even offered my W two which I didn't have. And they did they want anything they accepted everything I said lay it like dilutes dobbs might got himself so this is just awful. -- Did you. 187746943221. Toppled like these because it would be it would be war era. That would be less less reason to 12 Howell this optical right. I'll write -- out there. There against finalizing its. It cost too much I noticed that because -- -- is your team he would Tino was going all this will be so expensive. And then die in great guest says oh this is like chasing. Chasing you try to spend a dollar to catch it to get a dime. Well it's not not at all and you know I mean I understand that they think they're doing their rights saying and that's fine I I happen to disagree. And -- one on one of my colleagues and I think that that's how each day obsolete that investigation and outrage in Chinatown. And I had to correct balance saying you know DJ -- nothing to do -- it is the central government but you know working with the states. Right bright and India and and Belle says that some of us that some of that crazy stuff that they they they kept saying in they just. I was surprised too that does some of these people like I like my state rep I mean each you know people in Wellesley and westerner art. Were angry about this as far as I concede she just votes she just spoke with the welfare crowd. You know what you know now it's going over to the senate -- people. Still need to be vigilant about calling bears that are -- They want this past the way is don't water down. Yet Terry Murray the president of the senate said today she's not getting many calls about this I cannot believe that. Knowing well I know some people that have you know near copied me an email to her front or you're -- -- you I don't know how many but sound. People need to let people need to get on and an email because it they have to still make it through the senate -- got a long way -- else. -- is a town where people still war you know what's my hasn't been taken over the non working classes you know I mean it's a I can't imagine that people who work for a living Leonid you know or looking the other way and say -- isn't this cute. They just did all -- just women in need lips sticker or their nails bill so they possibly can get a job rod you're next with Howie Carr go -- -- -- I always -- exit -- O'Connell. You know what thank you rob appreciate just what yet you're you're ready to give up -- people like you logic a little bit hold. You're gonna put hours. And I on unrelated story this morning on the nose in front of a Burger King outside we accept EDT car that I could well. You now that your other tour looking wrong you were not going to believe how many places except the beat the cards pretty soon you're gonna be saying. The -- believe that plays doesn't accept the BT cards. A plus pop pop -- one of the biggest smacked. Who companies that -- -- this city a couple of days a week I see it all day -- -- And just ever everybody. Also walk out of the car and it just it's like that and it's very frustrating you know get up there are reported to go to work and I think. You know what we -- -- it's not -- he's entitled to any day. That last ditch your money I'm so tired of this entitlement. It's not their money they need that -- you're lucky you got this comment to you because. It's just this entitlement mentality it's got a change it's gotta start somewhere and it just bury. -- who wants the war you know who told you that the the EBT cardholders it was their money in the they had the right if they wanted to drink it up they have every right to do that who said that. One you know when it programs. On the national association of social worker was that it and we transport people don't want. We don't know why it. But yeah. -- -- somebody who you again a very humble beginnings and you know. And I get up but like everything -- but it just I just think there's just not it's they know they. -- do it and that they know they can just -- And get that check in the mail are recharged. And they're happy with a lot of work there what there's a standard of what. Thanks for the call will take care calls them what -- -- we'll keep talking about this bowler Chris you're next with how we card and Shana O'Connell lastly rep from on the go ahead Chris. -- Eliot going to. Have a question my question is -- didn't say that it couldn't believe -- vehicle -- suited Jakarta. Well -- sick today that we now that the information out there side though. You know I think one can say we that there maybe you -- it and you -- -- -- They split up thanks to the talkers in your next with Howie -- and Sean O'Connell -- Hi how are you for over -- portrait to click or short. I think EDT. Training him shop there and I was getting so lie and -- the woman upon behind the last telling the woman on the thought. To go out register boat to the Republicans don't give and stop any of them and I told them that was not what you should be doing -- -- the clock up. I'm in the match which she. Or -- LEB. What the what did ET the department. Telling. Woman you've got a lot involved because you don't like interpublic. Republicans didn't stop the image that she didn't say that yet he did say that shouldn't say. It's -- legal and common element on -- -- got to tell them that you -- and it shouldn't count -- out. I would be furious. And so spoke up and -- something. Of course via state wrapped up from Framingham ma voted -- -- voted not to have any kind of reform last night that because -- courageous you you cross site south of route nine it's it's EBT card central you know how loving and. Intel -- illegally aliens get -- not as we all know they are the -- glove boat and get other games to get abnormal. All the names that are don't vote. It's a respectable. I I know I know and they just there they wanna they just want us to pick up the -- -- you know that they're coming over. This is an immigration it's an invasion you know I mean they're just taken over and they would they wanna be taken care off. It's -- main thing. Yeah it's slowly we we are we are making some changes here either Republican Party we need to guard bigger people we have to have -- about -- legislature but I think we've made a huge impact this year. The Republican caucus as a whole. Aren't a lot of different areas and you know it's interesting -- is at 33 people voted against this spell yeah. And you know -- number that is that's -- Republicans there are. Court or -- Republican converted against the. No idea I counted up I was 33 Republicans and 89 Democrats and in 33 Democrats voted against the bill and again they were. How -- it toward there was a couple of that you don't like just renegade types like Charlie Murphy from Burlington. But basically split into two groups the moon bats and down on one on one side and then the people from warrants and Framingham. And the inner city of Boston I mean that's that's where it's let it. You know this speaker of the -- obviously supported the bill. Right right but on the other hand you know his number three guy Byron rushing from the south and you know way. Another were EBT card a hotbed. He's heeded he heat he bolted from the leadership. You know admit it meant that much his constituents would not to have any reform apparently. -- You know like -- -- that's it's with a different. School but pretty people -- -- it's different ideology and and they think they're right and they think they've earned the right thing and and we disagree state. Sean congratulations I hope I hope he gets up and I'm I'm still cynical about the chances of getting rid of the cash but I hope I hope umbrella. I mean I'm cynical to -- cynical because actually to a sharp. Still over authority and got you don't march a march down the field along way and I'm gonna keep marching down the bills. Okay thanks a lot John we appreciate it that -- -- she got the the remember their through there have been some reforms may but they didn't get it's still you -- still a lot. You could still usury EBT card to get cash and you know what you get with cash you can get bail money Ian Browne heroin you can get liquor you get cigarettes you know. You get your nails done we can get jewelry. 187746943. Out of the new -- -- vote he voted. He vote he voted to while -- for the reforms Collins -- for the reforms 18774694322. On our car.