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61726668686172666368. Nelson text -- sixties today. This is here -- circus I am your host care -- Join me in studio from left to right -- uber -- CO he is a the head of the Martin institute at bats don't help college he's also one of the three guys on mass Paul the bloggers. -- politics now 60 yes mass politics. It's a great blog. Either it's in my group -- I don't think there's a that's -- -- my it's in my yet I get everything to my Google Reader -- red -- if you click on so it's almost Manila envelopes that are -- here. David for David Travis he's the editor and one of the editors and founders of blue mass group. And armor right rob you know from red masterpiece -- publisher of that and accidentally tipping Peter and David for holding me up during the much proportion. Yeah you guys all -- -- bottom fly out my slayer choice turnaround like -- slayer for a for -- music that the forty thing is like the don't play that whole song of right after that there's like 3045 seconds of that where it's just an awesome and he guitarist and it just goes into debt and. And it's. Yeah I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm. But I pic I -- the mosh pit there's. A slight little different but oh so. Yes the much that is talker I did we now are brought were hockey more -- the Massachusetts generated just wanna continue about the -- And ours -- Peter. -- war announced their fundraising haul recently and I was looking at some of the other senate candidates the challengers that are running in various races around the country. Most of -- have a vote for. Five million dollars on hand I think one has five most of them have four she's got ten. It's phenomenal that staggering for challenger in eight. -- -- It is well you know -- only meant officer couple years it doesn't have the same kind of incumbency advantage that a senator there for six full years would have. And Democrats want to see the back and she's a woman figures in the partying she's attracted a lot of money and money also flows to you people who. Have a have a good chance of winning and so I think and Democrats around the country think this is Smart money to that -- -- porn that's one of the things this is this is -- -- that -- I think the -- think -- put it hasn't means Democrat I think to. There's talk -- you are forget what their it was -- I haven't seen that recently that I can imagine it doesn't mean I mean yeah just look at the profile of the state -- a democratic state brown. Starts at a disadvantage starts of the deficit in the recent polls had him already winning independent voters would still losing to -- slightly. Because of the advantage that Democrats have in the state. Yeah I know it is the thing -- war as I think it is that she got a huge national fought I don't think any other the other tanks that were in the race. Could have nearly raise the amount of money that she's had a happy national -- she's happy she's -- she also has had a much bigger national profile the brown. Offer I'd say for awhile longer than. Then the -- she was on this issue on the national scene. Long before brown I think is that a fair well let's see Edmonton to a degree I don't think that she was a recognized national or had a recognized national personality but she's become the -- the -- the Ralph Nader of love are this century that say is that a fair assessment -- Kravitz have -- -- I guess what I would say it's true that she has been on the national scene for longer than Scott Brown as you know she had she had this problem on on the TARP oversight. Panel and -- -- kinda famous. Through that because there's this YouTube of bird you know really growing. And the secretary of the treasury Tim Geithner. And and of course her work for the Consumer Financial Protection -- but I think that when Scott Brown won his race he instantly you know really became household word in a way -- -- with one -- still be sure she's she is obviously extremely well known candidate it's challengers to put an activist circles around the country that people that are -- that politics is out. Really revered figure within that crowd yes yeah but what if the terms of general household names I think Scott Brown still. There rob. But that general counsels don't give money to care so that's the activists in his those sort of people that they give the money to candidates and I think that that's why you see her and she's getting. In in quite frankly Scott Brown got that kind of money from the Tea Party activists around the country when it looked like he could be any date -- couldn't spend the money -- sit up when I was running and that's which is why he has a lot of his money -- but yeah I think in Scott has the ability right now to raise. We were talking about this earlier has the ability and at least and so your convention here to raise money. For the party and to use that money I mean Scott Brown's field offices are are run by the message Republican Party and things like that. An -- -- why can't you have a good thing or bad thing six I don't think that's how that pencil it in an Indy people's pledged. 61726668. Succeeding also text us at 668. Let's go to Andrea in -- injury a year and up next on WRKO. You know I. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Open up there -- for people outside the to get there they. -- acts that she going to be vocal. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Our. Average per we don't well. -- million dollars or she no more like I. Oh. School. Hi guys hey -- you're gonna be voting for us Scott Brown. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- About it because -- -- -- go out the way we elect a little -- -- I -- on our -- That we have the white out Italy. -- -- I'd I'd. It anymore. Get out and vote they don't want to do to keep this kind of -- -- all the talent and a lot happening. Yeah it into their eye on the on the play and marxism I wanna ask you question about the fund raising -- -- we're talking right now. And you brought the fact that a lot of -- given 2222. Warned would you would you donate to brown do you plan noting -- round. -- I. Hope -- or. All on number eight amber at opal mine are. -- -- -- -- not. An all our. Any. More hours a day. But. -- -- -- I for that you go and judge you wanna ask you why he say Warren -- Elizabeth I'm just curious. Marriage -- on her that I actually I kind of like what an Arab I don't. That I eat -- Oklahoma came on because she Oklahoma. She -- I'm happy that. All right Andrea thanks for the call. That's I cease from away that's a very you know I -- for us from -- I I spent I spent I spent New Year's and also this year. Rob rob just point to point B drifting from the Cooper took political report dated fifth April that they actually call on the race now a toss up. That's mostly what I've seen yet I just see the cooperating but there I think roll call. Me with that which also rates races has as -- is a toss up and I would certainly put it is I don't. I and I I don't think worn by I don't think brown by any means is as a as a pushover here this is not a guy who I think in I think I think it lot of people wrote for in the period a monitor a lot of people wrote how people were the Democrats are making mistakes figures -- Rome Rome Rome. One over proudly works I -- -- think he's one of the most tenacious campaign as we've and his State's Ian why he's also. I think you can make the argue one of the best politicians the states seen. Not Andy he's up there with the ball Packers in the last 25 year with the Izod -- campaign just get out there and connect with people what I've seen Warren and in -- and a couple of the couple times it seemed worn out on the fifth. -- -- She's those slots and and I don't she's she's got I think she still has she still has since she still -- it's easier again this is a woman who's never. Ron for any political office at any level the whole. You but she's been involved in politics at a higher level and very she's been involved the wash he's been involved nagging me she's she knows. -- she knows she's been -- higher issue vision network and things like that but again. She does. She still -- the policy she still rough around yet. But no she's not like Martha Coakley and circuit to. Circuit January December -- winter 2010 and I think comparisons like that aren't necessarily fair this point I think that this is it is a truly great senate race it may be the best rates in the country I think it is arguing that I think is asked she's a better than -- but I think it's certainly the most closely watched senate -- your country man and a -- and and frankly you see it from the from the fundraising numbers -- so this amazing chart that that -- all of the active senate races all the fundraising for the -- races and there are two. Two people running for senate in the entire country. Incumbent or challenger. Who have cash on hand of eight figures that is more than ten million dollars Scott Brown analyst don't they have more cash Johnny I think some I don't know who's been us or I can hit and and then in here on -- plane. I think it's. I'll let's go to Jim in -- -- up next. LA is that yes of extra. Yet. You know obviously this race. To me anyway it's gonna conduct of the wire I think they're really close and and we -- that may become earlier about. You know there are taking -- -- I don't really see how they could based on what happened last Saturday was taken lightly. And I think most people thought Coakley was just gonna cruised to victory in and we saw what happened. So it is it Democrats are doing that then. And -- -- but. But I didn't want the order coming on with the in the last caller mentioned about. You know that -- the billionaire and you know I mean to me pretty much anybody running for national office is pretty well off I think from you know. Did not of them -- are middle class are struggling. But that but it doesn't really matter. I mean it's sort of a joke though. You know that part of all things of this Romney in the -- forcing us to do it. Everyone is trying to make it seem as if there they understand the problems. The working class the middle class. And they might. But but they don't have to pretend to be that class is so. And needed a -- awards they're not. It's kind of pointless but it's one of those things -- to be an election. But it just seems. It's -- and you know. You know I'm. As a lawyer or convert every -- Our data -- I think you wanted to jump and yeah I mean I think these are both great points. On on to the to what to what you're just saying about. About how you know wouldn't it be nice if we could sort of stop. Pretending that this that what should decide the next US senator is who you'd rather sit down have -- appear with. Or who is more authentically quote middle class -- Dina and I idea yet why an advisor in Europe but you get why it's sort of instinctive -- politicians. Aren't just being ludicrous. When a guy like Romney especially. You know we talk about pinks slips then you know in the fray you know an -- You know these struggle you know things like that it says you know we we know you're not. Middle class we know you're wealthy but that's okay don't want it but senate and -- -- -- Obama mean it's. The but you know and I guess committee -- justice cynical voter but to me. In the end you know not that these people -- -- marxists know it it will overthrow the country we're not losing freedom. To be whoever gets there. I don't know I I think I I think it's gonna matter one way or the other but it is. CNET CE -- Virginia not worried on the the war on the current down of the minutes. -- -- I think we'll survive all those wars but but they'd. There's a war on something something different players doing oral tolerance and -- a war dogs a war on women. Yeah it does get through ludicrous but I get that sorted out that that make it go around they are accidents Tim thanks for the call. That's a great call Jim you know I and I -- hope that there are lots of voters out there kind of looking at the race in -- -- you're. That after this sound by accident to the thing we were talking about earlier about. Brown Indian brown being able to identify with some Democrats think that that one of the things that that was very interesting. Is it gives you this update guru. One of the other polls that showed that in Suffolk County. Brown was only down by two points to the -- and at that split that's an amazing. Cindy based on past elections and now that. Appears you do voters care -- talking -- fund raising finance. This stuff doesn't really move votes -- move people I mean people don't really voters really don't care about. Campaign finance whether it's how much money raised or where your money from a violations or whenever it really it's such. In the weeds minutia. Yet they know people don't care has not been voters and all that it it it it rarely done on either side on either side and and campaign finance this is this more about. Incumbent protection. And in many ways than it is about trying to get money out of politics into. Voters voters are going to be paying attention to -- -- where I did it it's a reason it's an issue is because Elizabeth Warren. Will be able to compete with brown. In a way that maybe some of the Democrats would not have been able to is so money will be a moot point both again have tons of it and going to be able to use it that's their -- You brought if indeed you fund raising really in in and financing really -- to think that helps protect incumbents. Our Citizens United came down it was 2010 is really the first year we saw assistant united play a role. They're also having to be more comments losses sheets in that race and any election I think since. A long time I -- remember the I think it was the forty's now. -- -- -- it is in mid century I think -- camera exactly. Does that have any correlation of the facts this is united sort of the not just god told change nearby that sort of pick my interest here. The fact that this is united are open up the floodgates more donations and loosened the losses that have anything to do think that Hank and to do with the fact that sort of took out some power in the commons and usually had. It may very well have a man I think that that. And that money is the lifeblood of politics and when you loosen up the restrictions more of it is gonna -- up to team politicians but the truth is it tends to float to incumbents because those of folks have their their hands on the levers of power so yeah. There are other things at play when incumbents lose their seats and I think in this coming election and the role that money has played in. The process trick in the presidential election has been a bit overstated and unions it didn't we started off with Mitt Romney is the as the front runner. He he allegedly was going to be challenged greatly by the vast sums of money thrown at people like Newt Gingrich and and it it's simply hasn't happened and so I think we can often overstate. The case and that's not to diminish the and that the question marks that we raise whom we see that amount of money in politics. 6172666860. -- pose this question to the the audience. Do you care. But where the money comes from politics do you care. A boat campaign finance at all is it important to you. Or is just another. Saying he really just don't care is are there other things and it comes to candid care or. Do you care about campaign finance who's up who's down who's breaking the rules who is and where they're money's coming from. Or do you just. Now whatever it is it's politics as as it's politics as usual as people -- -- let's go to Alex and Andover. Ouch you're up next. Peter. I think that. I think it does matter of security. Why are tried to mislead. Where he got it might well and then it discovered that. It was alive when he comes back and I think there you're shape I think that does matter to voters because it's secure partnership. I think when you get into you know large campaign like -- senator US senate president. The rules become certainly. Harder to understand that I think that a fundamental level you would indicate that doesn't. That mislead the public -- -- where the money come from. I think that the characters that voters care about. Here I think that's right but I'm not sure that what we have are a significant numbers of candidates who are attempting to mislead the public about where the money's coming from. And we give a fairly transparent process and Citizens United has changed some of the rules and in the super -- issue is a real one in and the money sources can be obscure -- I'm on the other hand I think one we try to regulate the two degree we have the start up costs for candidates are enormous. So if you're a local candidate congressional candidate. Who hails from the middle class which seems to be your own ability comes from these days. And I. It's a very difficult to balance campaign because the rules and regs require that you have an accountant requires you have a team of lawyers to help finance it. -- what you see some of the violations of campaign finance laws. We're not talking about bribery. Or we're not talking about sunk in cases where people are pocketing this money were talking about reporting errors and I I think that. That benefits incumbents and people who have a lot of money again. Now Alex do you do you say voters do care were a money comes from. How much -- -- -- who you vote for. Well I think about where I'm from I think it's it's. -- to the the transparency and honesty security. So the candidate. Talk about getting money from one place and deliberately tried to mislead. That the voters I think that voters of delicate out of character issue that you can't avoid that. I think you bring up a good point about the reporting requirements and certainly protecting incumbent but what I'm talking about it the deliberate. You know deliberate statement and I think that there are certain trust of the voters look for you today. And at the end of the day I mean you know -- -- overriding issue that -- that would or could they. That that is that is a factor that. You know it -- -- except -- got to look at. Our Alex I think for the call thanks for the call we get to quick break we get back we're gonna talk some congressional races there's. My caddie run and so people kind of care. 617266. 6868. We'll be right back. 6172666068. Also text us at 6680. What what does this Robert is a three she put on your native can back. This is possible as -- -- -- has it this is awesome it's you roller derby on ice now its its -- actually called ski cross. 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I don't know witnesses that -- -- It's just -- on skates being held on each other him going downhill. Through the streets through the streets of cutbacks which I think easier and optimal if you see it's true and NBC like it was and yeah do you can -- -- -- -- there goes our audience at all. It's. A couple 500 on sun. He's sorry obviate it is just I killed relieved and I'm 60726666. DDoS attacks since the 6060. I -- shift gears now to some congressional races the -- the shot missed the shot be allowed. Elizabeth as I was a child dead dot Joseph Kennedy Ray Robinson took it around insulin as and I believe -- Her high. Clearly I -- can you read one point three. Million dollars to be that was second with a 175000. Which is impressive for. There is all right this is -- -- my 36 points I think in the latest poll I saw. This these this is going to be it's going to be a tough road hope for the Republicans and that is that it ought to drop it. It's cute show brought items Robby you know -- master of advice of any of all the pop up via all the seats that are. That are in play for a report or I guess that Republicans are contesting. Seriously. He's the upshot is that Joseph Kennedy raid that Barney Frank sees that off the table this notice not to say really the one that. It's it's six it's probably six and then foreign three year pretty even you know it is to -- just six and then everything else is -- -- I don't -- 643. And then just about everything else I think adding to adding that he wouldn't put -- to say race above the rest until I did basic six of the August 6. What would every 664 answering a six and four victory in an innocent you know to be competitive if we -- candidate but in Worcester is going to be. I thinking in the gubernatorial year. 63. To which is the -- to see. Fool are in now are all absolutely fantastic for us and then you know it gets to be aware. Indicated some things in a state terrorism and even even one is in his -- used to be because it's got some of those towns. Along the southern port -- Kravis -- -- Kravitz -- you you at all concerned about and use the seats. If I actually got to be somewhat interested in the six threes with I admire robs optimism saying. Money for a team ready for the that that races rated. Safe democratic -- roll call one and cook all those guys and I think it's gonna stay there unless something really odd happens in that race. The six which is. You know the incumbent John -- verses that Richard to say who just ran for lieutenant governor alongside Charlie Baker yell racism that -- he ordered to stay out -- and actually for two quarters running. So that is a close race and and of course you know in addition to the fact that this day. You know has a long history in state politics from have been in the senate and that has run statewide race for lieutenant governor so he's kind of unknown quantity. The you know John Tierney has. Some some issues to deal with with namely his -- this business of his wife. I think having. Pleaded no contest forget the forget the exact details but it and it there's tax fraud money and there's -- it isn't just a golf yes and -- There's a -- -- it matters -- Stanley dirty laundry in that Natalie dirty laundry. And turning to said he knew nothing about it but the fact is it's it's a problem for him. Do you believe -- -- says that you believe -- known -- wife was doing I'm not to try to look inside -- he went to -- there's an opt out but I'm not not gonna look inside his -- I'm just gonna say it's a problem for pan -- you know and to say you know that is to say is an interest -- -- it if elected I believe he would be the first. Openly gay Republicans. Ever elected to the US congress and -- that's not insignificant yet do you do you steal and one other quick do you see any of the surgery. We gain gain lesbian organizations establishment in the state. Mean to support him and that race -- -- they gonna you know I Democrat I really don't know I haven't heard and be. Murmurs. From like -- quality here you I I think would you be if you would be so I assume would you be surprised they didn't. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Here I I had to I would just say there was a congressman from Arizona opening game Republican. Is it in. He's he's since left congress is to say when it first but I don't think he was elected. For the first time being openly 2.0 yeah getting elected as you OP yes being -- not coming out winning your first election as a gay Republicans and -- -- to say would be open -- -- yet. A president. -- the top ticket huge spread last year more people come out to vote there's enough. It's you know on the numbers you look at the numerous presidential year especially she's look at. The people that don't usually vote -- to -- their parties are also hard to gauge but. It does give the Democrats a huge advantage of the top ticket but how how huge is this event is overstated is this a -- -- is it possible that like. That we did that Barack Obama could just. Carry the whole Massachusetts democratic ticket in Republicans have not have -- no chants are is there are there actual seats that could be contested or against. Is -- it is is hit is brought about at the top of ticket and overstated advantage there -- did you democratic can be overstated people people will split their tickets. But. 90% of congressional incumbents are reelected. Sue regardless of of of who's winning presidential with the unpopularity. You know than sort of the change of people. No longer just hate congress but hate their congressman to. -- -- -- that maybe your data to be honest I think people people do you hate congress. They. They they tend to be reelected. Kennedy cart -- have a higher approval rating than the congress chair but you're not gonna steal an enormous number of members of congress defeated you -- -- -- nearly resigned -- ten was as that was an unusual. Yeah and this does things happen I mean a debt but 94 to Venus on a significant numbers of members of congress reelected in Massachusetts. 06 excuse me 06 written what would be the I mean to say is probably the most likely and candidates in both behind -- are are very interesting. And strong candidates that this is going to be a tough year and I think that for Republican Scott Brown was probably the most unlikely opportunity they have yeah but that's going to be tough tee because Democrats are going to win the state for the presidency and so he's got to convince. They have to convince Obama. And Deval Patrick voters to vote for them 6172666860. Can also text us at 66. Eighty I wanna hear from you guys are there congressional races you're looking at were talking about bridge to say verses John Tierney are also talking about. Deal chiles and Joseph Kennedy the third GK three as he is. Affectionately known -- let's take a trash. I think that that's pretty good. Let's go to Peter in Woburn Peter you're up next -- and succeed on the Akio. They record to -- are you very thanks for cyclical. I'm just curious is toward people guys primarily. In the year have a problem. Wherein saying. That's somebody's lying to what they call it misleading or they're -- they're perpetrating fraud and they're -- they're calling it. Accounting errors. You know because. It appears that. There is some control. When a person does those things. I'll guide the balance of -- what would be normal. And quite personally I consider -- that election for if somebody is getting up Q and blatantly lying in your. Even if they're not mentioned with their accounting. To get into. A very lucrative position. But put your point here I'm desire and it's hard to fall. The it is. Why do guys. Primarily have a problem with you were using the word lying extra -- being. And fraud instead of calling it accounting errors. All right thanks a coffee. Yeah I mean you know and I think there is there there is a good point in there. But but. I would say about that is. The campaign finance regulations. You know having a little bit of experience with them. Are are incredibly incredibly complicated and difficult it really is not easy. To comply with all of -- hoops that you're supposed to jump through. So inadvertent mistakes do happen can and people get called out for it and yet he sees sense and notice and they try to correct -- now having said that. I do think that that it's legitimate to say you know if it turns out that someone is really saying something that's not true it's a difficult line I a lot of I pulled up some numbers from 2008. And I'm just looking -- quickly. Just from from the election you prop brown -- -- Obama vs. McCain. McCain or Obama won the race 6236. -- does anybody here think this could be that wide margin again now and Bill Clinton will be closer but how much closer as it could be are we talking -- 55 for you the only five point I don't know I think I think maybe those numbers I I like why if I don't know if if if Romney if all of Hollywood's -- five point Jesus did. In the UK and troubled -- -- until he died at 55 point that it may even be eight points in an EE can't underestimate what a forcing governor. Other state is gonna do. And in the statement that I just neither neither side if they have any sense is gonna put any significantly. In the Massachusetts like every other presidential race it's going to be decided by fifth Ohio Florida and I that's right. New Mexico the president. The race problem but because car race is so they can of the coordinating campaign. I think -- she's been getting -- Iowa. I anxious a lot of it -- -- -- -- -- vote Massachusetts that he might normally see here you you will see more money because of this is that you will not see either the presidential candidates. And and if you do you see them on the streets of Massachusetts -- they're making horrible mistake. We -- -- -- -- -- we do you have to take a quick break but I would do wanna ask you guys. Name the one town that Jeff -- want in 2000. Against John Kerry he won one town -- tired. That's correct I think -- but I. Odd shaped I -- I was -- and it was a boxer. Who do back. I'll do those policies they've bill would actually run. Firm. Known extremists and it it's -- my guess is going to be a row feel you know that's the one town in Massachusetts that that did not send any -- -- Elizabeth Warren in the last quarter always you won the Monroe and these once she got money from Florida. She got money from everywhere Florida it's there in western Massachusetts where everybody decided you know and enroll in there's not enough Republicans and Democrats to make you Republican -- democratic committees like until -- -- it -- Which is to be a role as I guarantee people all right guys get a -- quick break we'll get back to you mourn your calls and texts after this is aimed succeed WRK out.