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Tue, 31 Jan 2012|

With the possibility of another major presidential candidate with ties to Massachusetts Howie is walking down memory lane...from JFK to Barack Obama's Harvard days. Howie asked for listener's fond memories.

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  1. running for president1:50, 2:01, 23:56
  2. Ted Kennedy1:30, 1:49, 1:52
  3. Mitt Romney4:48, 7:27, 9:00
  4. John Kerry4:21, 4:23, 4:26
  5. Boston Marathon17:16, 17:21, 17:25
  6. Barack Obama4:33, 9:26, 21:56
  7. Texas Rangers6:53
  8. United States21:52
  9. Mormon Church9:11

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Now we're now where I think you would just talk about the the candidates for president over the years and in that for Massachusetts in the last thirty years of me. We have really come awful lot -- tips here moralist a third just a little over thirty years since Ted Kennedy started running and 1979. And since then well we'll just -- Justine just your memories of of great great Massachusetts. Presidential candidate moments and you know when you think about it there have been an amazing person just such area relatively small state -- an incredible number of people have come out Massachusetts. -- have either been born here or or lived here. Went to school here. But -- I guess we would start off with Ted Kennedy and in in 1979. And do my greatest memory of -- Ted Kennedy's. Campaign for president 1979. Was when he won on this this. Interview with our Roger Mudd. CBS news this guy whose son became it later became a one of the executives. -- Freddie Mac are Freddie May Day. For her what are Freddie Freddie Mac are Freddie or Fannie Mae. And so he was obviously you know. Mud defeat you get is if did you get a solid job where you can become a millionaire just you know -- selling and buying shaky mortgages that couldn't be paid off. He was pretty well connect that he was not trying to hurt Ted Kennedy in any way they were tried to Britain -- that. You know give them a a nice soft. Entry into the race and so. Roger Mudd. -- actually look for this in Davis this got to be on YouTube somewhere. Why why are you running wired you know they asked them they asked Ted Kennedy why are you running for president. And Ted Kennedy at local. He had no role and it. Statement to make as to why he was running for president. -- was it was tough for him to run for president because of view if you looked as you walked Adam. It was like it was this. Cloud hanging over his head the black clout. And of course that the club which Chappaquiddick you know we could never really get beyond that climb out. Then of course I remember his. They found this woman and the countless. The harder people and acute and he would he would governments when the campus and and the New York Post pattern they wish they were taking LSD together and cocaine and marijuana. And so after the after the New York Post cut -- Got that writing their stories they turned over to Harold and shoes. She was turned over to me to write the story and I can still remember talking to weren't. Since then if so what happened since. The senate and I would pick and that's the and then we we would make -- powerful enough to. This score eight but this is great stuff we would make beautiful of together. In -- course that -- remember the famous line -- work Carter's Carter was born on the front page of the New York Post or kick ass. In fact part of the kick his ass. And so that was the in the Ted Kennedy that was the first run for president. That in you know in recent years. Good good performance by Ted Kennedy he never -- again. That we come to 1988. We -- -- well I don't I don't need to go to this list everybody wants to talk about this we have you -- 1988 we have. Both Mike Dukakis and George H. W. Bush the bulk of them were -- not just in Massachusetts but they were actually born in the same county Massachusetts which is Norfolk. And them in 1992 you have. -- Paul Tsongas. And then and in the year 2000 you have to Harvard man now for the inventor of the Internet. And and George. W bush from a from Harvard Business School and than in 2004. You have. Law I think he's about to talk about a million down. You have John Kerry. That's right John Kerry and we all have many of great John Kerry stories that we can share. In that in 2008 there was. It was Barack Obama former resonant of Somerville when he was going to war Harvard Law School. And that the guy who pronounced Steve in the we've lived here for three years pronounce Massachusetts's. -- two cents. So away and now and now this year. Mitt Romney -- So it's been it's been pretty much of a Massachusetts a cast of characters. Most of them of not come to happy endings have. Most of them haven't gotten all 41877469432218774694322. All the Massachusetts candidates of the last thirty years and now the if these polls are correct in Florida looks like a -- it's gonna wrap up tonight. Mean -- mace -- may stagger on got you. Getting the occasional five million dollar check. From one of the -- Wilson's show opener Miriam but the you know what chance to see Malia. So will be will be Belmont verses. Belmont verses. Some of -- which -- -- -- got to with tickets so. But I guess he lived it's 018. Sevenths and of course it's an -- Boston and his uncle. Here's in the legally we whips itself Boston is uncle be illegal -- lives and for me. Bill your next with how we cargo ahead bill. -- -- I thank you gotta take that out of this discussion because what he meant is that can do person -- as knowledge and class and style. And -- Just talking about people from Massachusetts. You know I mean I know are totally there's so many nice people from Massachusetts. I mean I mean we've got lazy and look at that as I do -- and I think that he's gonna beat Obama is the -- -- -- -- all on the does not Washington's side. He's run several successful both of them all the other guys that you mention. That down maligned were all more -- -- -- and and and I don't know of any one of them. Actually apple land. Business had any real world expect. George George W. Bush ordering a business I mean he -- and the Texas Rangers I mean I know we gotta love you a lot of investment money for months old man's friends in Texas but. He he kinda at a business that many. But that's about the same as running a successful. And again. Part of dozens of over the years. Now I guess I guess not it's he's no he wasn't he wasn't that successful they're running it anyway. Another thing Alex picked them Mormon thing out image you're you're you're talking about Nevada he's got to win them. Could do the Mormon vote is that might be mormons don't definitely gonna get past so this. Mitt Romney is a very successful man who happens to be involvement which by the way is no crime. As a Christian denominations like Iraq and total amount of fundamentalists. Before they don't wanna share against net that they aren't -- -- -- them then they do well. -- good ball all -- their but the you know there -- many fundamentalists who do monopoly of the mormons are Christians say I I I get. I get an email I got a huge team huge taxed from one of Oman yesterday. And he was give me all the stuff about you know the of the planet -- law but you read all about the plan Nicole lob on the Internet and it just. They were real they are there is this I again I I think it's a very small group of people but there is this. Fraction of the population does never gonna give minute shot they did rather vote for guys who once said on national TV that he was a Muslim. And had to be corrected by one of the rope swaps and ABC news they'd rather vote for him than they -- rather than for a Mormon. Thanks for the call bill. Ed you're next with how we cargo ahead -- -- -- because Ali Democrat spoke well what I do you Lola I don't like to be -- incher. Like I -- big blow up quite -- we have like cattle. So it's a big -- this is and I'll. That's that's our but it just basis so they don't vote at -- being close to decreases in more common than not yes well armed. I happen to be would also Christian. And in the difference between. Mitt Romney in a fundamental Christian it is he's lost. He's going to tell. So that's the difference between someone who -- price for salvation. And a Mormon Church believes in working their way to -- Still believe in celebration in crisis overly -- You know redemption. It's totally different but working your way yeah. Forty you think has more in common with the UN as a fundamentalist Christians and Mitt Romney year Barack Obama. -- You don't want it if they if they believe the Bible which is the fundamental truth without changing it any different direction. You don't want to. But what I should say that mormons are pretty good citizens in the communities in which they live. I. As far as I know that they're there is decent and anyone else I mean this Christians and since two -- centers that we all do our -- planes. Right but I mean what -- saying is I think -- I think mormons tend to get in the last trouble. Mormons to include tend to. Be be much less likely to become a ward of the state. Mormons tend that you're you're not gonna run into too many mormons. At the first session of the BMC on Monday morning. You know what I mean. They Obey the law. Well -- We wish I thought -- a bit he got beat out works the. Talk talk about Boston the BM CI. Just I'm just argued that mormons mormons keep their noses. You know they they don't get -- line. I mean that's that's all I and I know what to your standards I'm going to help -- was a Roman Catholic but. As far as I'm that's why all I ask all I ask is that is that the people who live around don't caused me any trouble. And don't adult stick their hands in my pocket. What do you see you talk about religion and orderly you know it is you know mercenary in an exceptional patient -- -- -- -- struggle everyday to do good. -- Romney seem to already reached Chrysler -- for it you know he's already think he's a ride. It's in these already kind of -- you know it at West Point we he's not thinking no rational anymore. It was a big -- you'll Kate says that that can be very dangerous situation in the person's like such a thing. I don't I don't but I disagree that he that that he's liable to I guess I -- what you're saying you're saying I don't like those guys like that I would be. The -- the polygamous they got a jail and he keeps telling the the guards in the judges you battle a -- or God's gonna destroy the world. I mean a guy like that obviously is out of his mind and he's crazy but good man and -- like the furthest. Jeff Jenner which has been Jeffers a -- his is name. But Mitt Romney is the furthest thing from -- you could ever fine thanks for the call -- build your next with how we cargo ahead bill. Outlook back out this story get Monticello carrier realized she would slyly at an -- -- -- well it's like I've got to account got to go to that those editorials. The JFK library and laws. Okay let out guys that -- out of the people who feel what. Because particulate vehicles would be pretty going to be did you enjoy that don't like I'll hopefully that -- -- -- don't believe people copy it templates is that. Is partly to charity. -- you took the about the book good to do it all white with a clean white -- you don't want got darker this guy does it give you play. Can -- can you ever imagine Mitt Romney trying to -- you know take one of his houses and claim it was a national mobile or national monument so we could be paying the taxes on the how stubborn and Heidi analyst bill that's that you don't want what that ounces worth. Five point five million dollars can you imagine what the taxes that are going to be disappearing from the rolls because of this. -- -- But without music dictated -- who it was we could you talk followed with a floor so we -- -- right after the other I think a couple apple. To a couple people have coupled with every. You have to do the other they're Democrats or the fourth so but the war almost a tool that way -- guy that the Kennedys. All of -- like -- -- -- they -- which way to cap and it probably could double. Don't go away go out -- out not that -- you legal way that -- it is Democrat. You'll be what they already bought eight Democrats while I can't just pick poverty will be out body in this state and goto who got caught the ball well out there ought. -- legislative the -- the yet you're right about Rose Kennedy Rose Kennedy when she died the you know the mother of Teddy and Jack and Bobby. And all the rest that generation Joe's Joe's wife. She she had set foot in Florida in twelve years twelve years and yet they still let her file her well in Florida because guess what they have no life death taxes in Florida. Now then when when when Jackie Kennedy. Died they were looking at a death tax of but -- in those days 55%. So one so so Caroline Kennedy and John John who was alive at that time. They asked the two war it to be allowed to to pay regular. Pop marginal rate income packs on her state which was then at that point 39%. Rather than 55%. -- wanna save them 304050. Million. Horse you know. Why they're out every text. Political statement that was saluted retarded or -- outlook no doubt it was just let's say that they both have been dropped out because you know. We got a couple other states that -- -- -- on -- bit -- -- to -- the ball -- It plays the banks -- the call -- one I noticed scale like Massachusetts. -- the it is it's like a Massachusetts senate them in the dictionary loser. 18774694322. Of our car. One 877469432218774694322. That's simple free number of Alec or short part about the various presidential candidates who come out of Massachusetts in the last thirty years -- and I guess it's safe to say if the polls are correct that. Mitt Romney it's. Pretty much. Wrapping up the Republican nomination this evening now on the sunshine state so it'll be yet another -- another person for Massachusetts to work. To be at the head of have a ticket. 18774694322. You know you know one thing -- that. Massachusetts presidential candidates have have all that trouble with the over the last thirty years or so is exports. You know if you include if you include. Obama and there you know in Italy lions. Kaminsky field. Not knowing any of them people who play the Kaminsky. Field. Because even though he claims she's a great Chicago White Sox fan I daresay most of the people here or just even. Casual baseball fans could name one or two people who played. Play for White Sox over the years. And that of course there was John Kerry. Well -- John Kerry he's the big cheese at all. And he he was one -- that the F 24 point -- many are -- as many as. So that Ted Kennedy had one of those two didn't he CME -- or CME's loser stews user. In mark mark mark for me again or something like he got Mark McGwire mixed up or something that you did something like that. And then of course there was at. John Kerry. Ran in the Boston Marathon but he was the one person who ever ran in the Boston Marathon who couldn't remember the year. That he ran in the Boston Marathon. -- And then of course there was John Kerry when they estimate was Paper player was growing up you know he rumored talk body which raised on farm in Massachusetts and all this stuff from the make an exit. So what's your favorite baseball player when you were kept. A receivers. That's located -- receivers your favorite player but he didn't like a Red Sox equally for the Washington senators. Because it's that's really where John Kerry was from his father was in the State Department. 187746943221. Mates but I think the best 10 of course was to caucus I mean. There's one I I don't I think they cut it out because they adjusted their room for -- call for tomorrow. Hours remember it because I was I was -- I was with they I was with channel seven at the time that he said it. We weren't really it was an important part of the press conference but I just as soon as you said I turned my cameraman. Said to be rolling on the and he said yes and so because I used and abused that bombed Yemeni use it again right here right now. Mike Dukakis talking about is lovely bride kitty. I don't know about the pillow talk to your house. I go to sleep at night with Kennedy's advice councils and urgings. Low hanging in my years. Ringing in my ears. And then of course there was the famous. Or shall I say the infamous tank grind. You know you know Leo saying that. Success as a thousand fall off fathers and failure is an -- way you you you try to find out. Who put Mike Dukakis and the tank and you will realize the troop of that statement nobody. Nobody takes credit for putting Mike Dukakis in that tank in Michigan. Another great moment in in in Massachusetts presidential candidate in history. 18774694322. Or number two. George H. W. Bush again from and I think -- -- milk but. A series of Massachusetts -- issue it's. He rumor when it looked at the was some hip pianist. Well where can you do for me sounds like librarian at the occupied Toronto. Site where can you do for me. And and George H. W. Bush is soul is so irritated that he's having to put up listening to the east this whiny little. Piece of crap that he looks -- watch. That was one of the moment she knew it was he was not going to be reelected you against Oakland that was 1992. -- you're next with our cargo ahead -- It had a dust and call whereas remember Teddy when he ran back in 98 but. I was apoplectic when he announced but it didn't take long before little cartoon showed up. And it had a woman would be we'd pointing out to Kennedy in the podium with a finger. Clams and mussels at all look at the big on the -- leading up to. Know just what and to PPL. Yeah I think we all did I won't watch your heard that we got when we get that's thing from offer from Roger -- that's got to be out there somewhere on the Internet -- he just keeps and yet stammering and hemming and hawing by the way he would he said was a CNBC loser and Mike McGuire. That was its CME -- here. Face thanks for the call 1877469432218774694322. So your next with how we cargo ahead so. And it in Massachusetts but how you -- him and the great fit correctly and a half. It's a and -- it. It's different from the parents don't play Oates and saying about the -- church and how they thought temple's secret. You know what you could be Obama and you gotta get tired Christiane that temple each candidate go watch again. Right I know. Yeah. I mean and actually hit their ultimate goal the debate until the government and they talk about it. That's big screen and we let them -- -- at the United States. You know what's who would rather would you rather have bit from earlier Barack Obama had control of the united. I don't think I only have to why don't we get to think to -- -- Follow. There. Do you. You know I just it's. It -- the rap against Obama and I wouldn't vote for Obama and mostly public didn't I didn't quite -- state areas that he does but they're about is that -- -- Because too many people know about their religion they know about the background but he just can't beat them and it's just and -- -- A black Obama's background. You know I mean it. About a mysterious. Figure I mean we don't know anything about this guy. We don't we know everything about Mitt Romney -- months ago. And I you know yeah. Anybody think the -- just another Christian religion and it's not it's totally different. They have different -- different teachings. That yen up -- -- -- -- -- a lot less than you do it it. Means -- Euro -- country I mean I live in a town with yes small Mormon population by. I figure would be unfair to want so you know why don't -- evidence. If it's so if if it's so onerous and so war. Ensues but so was so much of a dictatorship why you still living there. I mean that can't go immigrate here and but you know the one thing I get interest here but it didn't take care they're all they have their -- welfare system. So a lot of them. Boy I'd GICs so he thinks the hate about a some. -- I wish I wish lot of other religions had their -- no welfare system setup thanks for the call. 1877469432218774694322. But im so once has Menino west -- -- bronco Bob -- ski yet but he's not running for president thank goodness. C got his he had a you know K Ian a cancerous growth removed from his nose. You know they did data drive had -- broke -- moved from my forehead they've they've fry it. They really do fry you know marbles immediacy as he now knows -- on your next with how we cargo ahead Don. Like bode well when I don't want Petroleos elections and went but yes. I don't look these people call me and say they won't vote for Romney or Gingrich understand what this election is a -- -- I mean. I I would vote for it to pass before I voted for Obama. Is it's unbelievable I mean I'm not thrilled with the punch wouldn't say is true I'd like -- kindness in -- kind -- but. How was the turnout at your precinct. I like it yeah did an absentee and the early -- -- I did a lot of traveling on a resort to -- end. I get into that works very nice but if he would respect Trout supposed to be quite strong in the states Obama. It's going to be interesting and of course this state has the panhandle. And South Florida which are two different philosophies and I really. Exactly. I I just can't believe these people and saying they won't vote. For a really big Gingrich. All are Romney I don't kill what they've got some baggage do this so what. They've got into it I don't I know they've got to think that they've got to think it through thanks for the call on how we card.