Andrew Fischer

This is Tom Finneran is it is a great morning out the a beautiful latest data weaken it was a great weekend. -- so many including the great folks at walked behind hunger apparently good weekend for Roger Clemens his agent and his family however we are about to Antarctic in the Fisher. An attorney in Brookline an environmental crusader. And environmental activist who has come up with an idea that is sure to set some people -- edgy -- welcomed the veterans -- Good morning thank you. -- welcomes -- hey I think you've got everybody's attention at least at least in Massachusetts when I saw the story in the paper on Saturday circle this India yellow highlighted clip that right out said she had left to talk to discuss so thanks for coming on. India's I understand it the proposal it would be restricted to Brookline because it's a home -- petition apparently that you've that you're going to present. In front of Brookline town meeting later this month. And it would essentially doubled the excise tax on SUVs -- I have it accurately.

Well actually these and other car -- vehicles that be paid. It is EPA fuel emissions standards.

Okay so that would be SUVs pick up trucks anything else that we about.

So -- mistreated. To conclude that that's the way to definition false yuppie you know and the reason it's targeted issue visas that as CDs where designed and marketed by eight by Detroit purely to avoid haven't followed in fuel efficiency standards -- UVs -- cars that are deliver her. Vehicles that are deliberately marketed in order not to comply with. With fuel efficiency standards.

And Andy -- was standing gap which means that if I own an SUV I'm getting lousy mileage or crappy mileage on it if I do. But I am paying for there are ready Ian the Ian an extraordinary price at the pump so let's say his my first hypothetical you drive a prius. And I drive a big ford expedition off something like that. I campaign. Probably double or even triple what you'd be paying. On an annual basis in fuel taxes as well as just not just fuel taxes but just a cost of fuel. So it is that there are ready discipline in the market notwithstanding Detroit's maneuver around cop efficiency fuel standards.

Well apparently well there's also a huge federal subsidy for people who were we drive like structure -- as commercial vehicles and I can't do anything. The federal level yet but I -- something account meeting them hoping that they. Other other City Council follow the example this will be disappointing but it will be -- Brooklyn has a good idea let's do this in. In Lexington let's do this in Boston -- it is Springfield. And stickier to your specific question. You know Mike Mike kissing your kids are -- live on this planet than in the next generation generation after it was -- something else or severe about global warming. We're not going to be able to do that.

But and so -- and I just want to make sure I understand it the Indian to give you a chance to explain that subsidy she -- you just mentioned but he is the first question that I haven't as I mentioned. A kind of in the lead into the asylum in our conversation. I grew up in a -- seven kids my dad was a blue collar work -- so we carried equipment in the count all the time and then when the family was going to do something the equipment was emptied out at all seven kids plus mom and dad jumped in the cowed by the cows weren't designed -- way they got today but that's not I was nine kids in the crappy old station wagon. And -- proposal would say to in this case the Finneran fairly but it could be the fishes it could be reversed he could have a very much family. Based upon either one do you size of his family or what tool you profession or occupation -- if your contractor if you do I'll -- is he going to be carrying around tools of lumber and all the rest that stuff. How is it -- either professional or family members to justify. At this what I'll call this double hit it almost feels as if it's an ambush.

Well as first of professions. You know we've statistic star that you said that just started discussion -- base of -- discussion by the numbers -- capers for example driving small small pickups or other union members and so -- I think we're -- a word except when an exception for a commercial vehicles appropriate this is simply striving. Large at least we survived you're you survived are survived without without such duties. You know achieve these are in theory not made for large it was -- make their sport utility vehicles meant to drive you know. When that dirt roads of New Hampshire Vermont nobody does that and nobody really needs sports utility vehicle to drive him I think that section did the big wish can can their other vehicles to take you all the big family this Subaru outback is the station wagon not a like his. Station wagons we drove there are ford and Chevy station wagons that hold the same kind of passengers.

It Indy let's let let me have been here however because I think is set at the outset and I try to really respect accuracy for a -- and we'll get to some calls in a moment but I think you mentioned -- proposal would also hit minivans now. When my wife who has doing things with our kids she was very active in girl scouts and brownies in the -- our time she'd have six rate little kids all seated all dealt the -- in she did dead in in in in a minivan that to may not to my mind was nothing but the end great mom a great neighboring great community leader in the like. And in India proposal would hit minivans as well so the mother who's driving six or seven kids to soccer because she'd had hit the ball into the the prius that's in the driveway would also pay through the nose

that's that's true two them. And I'm hoping as -- engage in discussion we either find a way around that all when -- wasn't what I take if if we push for things like this he -- Detroit department -- going to have to get this going to have to give us some more fuel efficient meaning it Teddy bear for hybrid. Hybrid issue he's there are immediately get in the mid 20s amount per gallon and if there's demand for. Flee the free market will out and and we can get at 27 opera gala are 29 mile per gallon media that -- EPA standards.

We will that's my point I think the market is going that way anyway I'm just not sure you have to add this. What I'd call this this kind of punched in the back of the head but. I think I I think I understand what you're doing let's stick a couple of calls it erupted at the end they. I don't thank you -- let's go right to John in Waltham -- next to the Andy Fisher environmental activists from Brookline a Tom Finneran. Eight I'd done -- yet.

Yeah I think because from Brooklyn so much for picking up my next are what I've never I mean first -- all. I prefer safety -- Story and I have too many bands make up -- weight by about -- or about not a gallon I packed with it like that. I'm also prepare music might have this thing. He's saying will write to adapt baloney these vertical orbit this stupid rule anyways so he can decide I didn't -- broke. What nerve to write one more thing what Margaret I'm a little excited about it. It is I drive three miles a date to work. My uncle who lives one in Europe courts I'm sure you love that he'd like 150 miles today. Well get better mileage I do that -- hero is and keep on riding your bike.

Well let me let me give -- chance but -- hold on a second I gotta ask -- city have too many -- ends and they get low to mid 20s I just want to --

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Got -- you do official what do you what do you say to Donna while the -- driving kids to sporting events and school events. It is a musician sounds to me like the kind of guy I'd like to have for a neighbor any of us would like in our community whether it's Brookline a Boston what do you say to --

I'd sit in the same -- he doesn't element -- I'm also musician -- travel with speaker for a the bass speaker and it's it's. If you professional musician he followed does -- commercial exemption talking about I'd like to I'd like to -- part about the many means but even more like four. Forward in Jinan -- now. That's right.

They're not apartment. You say -- like to you're not. So I'm very behavior with a double bill next year I'm -- story what you're you're you're one of these do gooders who have great ideas. But you're not -- remember how it's not your business but what people do is they -- With -- quality miles no one wants the Norwood park up to a gas station. And -- page 75 dollars -- military guest thanks so -- actually happened you know we don't need you're help. Thank you very much.

died -- a free market guy am a free market -- I'm sure you have inherited debt before this isn't the first time give credit where a guy like -- says -- Andy would you please the marketplace is going to do it I just paid 44 blocks to fill up my -- cap blah blah -- what do you say that stuff.

But actually its first preferred that -- hearing what I have been hearing it GDR driving initiative which you know -- Karen it's it's only going to -- you know 40 or 50 bucks and in excise tax and you know I drive the issue the -- damage here.

And let's go to John in Boston I think John my don't know Subaru Johnny -- it's -- the Andy Fisher from Brookline a Tom Finneran.

Hey guys -- Yeah I have to -- probably 40 years. Yeah like -- are a few state they just don't get good mileage because of the all wheel drive if you want to -- You gotta alias or by you don't want to -- girl group just the -- or exit there's no rule of and they are not the most the carnival carnival vehicle because they just don't get good -- well.

You need at all -- driving acidity a Subaru.

So if India apparently even a TR example of good environmental alternatives -- the John says. Hey it's not all that it's cracked up to be because of just because of the certain features that come what this particular model

let's it's that there are other models there -- station wagons and if if we start doing things like this GM and ford engine and Purcell will reacting gives you this cars. The free market is driving the American. Climatic -- The same way as other American industries and you know I believe in buying American but we can't buy American if we don't have American products. I'm hoping that. With so little citizens' initiative we can get GM. I think the lately noted this and instructing the other -- striving to answer fuel efficient fans -- describing Japanese cars.

Army but the -- can't -- yep data gate here very very selfish Andy. Tell us like well first of all -- 19 every battle was global cooling what kind of vehicle who's driving. Apparently Michael Aaron have been killed Munich beer environmentalist is at the pride. In if you missed the get at the nonsense the money to grant -- everybody for quite -- electric cattle haven't. We have a lot less how many -- ending. In the court and everybody in Brookline -- electric -- what -- we have a lot less when might that be at an -- every picnic are up.

I don't I'm not following applied -- rabbit if everybody drove electorate -- what it experiment. Well let's of that's actually what he's trying to do about running Indies side on this you try to figure that out rabbit just from a tone of voice but appreciate the -- let's go to jail and the not sure -- what do you say to work this proposal by Andy Fisher. Brookline environmental activist.

Well I -- situation as they got I got a lot of gold flatware need all wheel -- got a -- and dodge -- the wildly -- not commercial. I got a break its big I -- all wheel ride nobody was there anybody in white editor QB so it gets to -- both sides. All -- here reported they're fearful. So I'm Garrett stuck I can't get the yet the other not commercial. So I period of -- all made other let up both sides BA all real.

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Okay 50 bucks -- and because your mileage is not so good you -- that gas station a lot more than Indian hiring given given probably you know -- the alternatives we drive. Yup -- went back the -- my point to worry pay any Andy what the heck he can add insult to injury for -- what -- right get a punch in the nose when I just -- punch up the side of the head

certain. Go ahead in the next the answer is I'd like keeps up washing from being underwater in another 50 years 40 years 30 years. Okay it's driven by -- we that we don't start addressing real seriously issues of global warming that's what we're looking.

Let's go to -- in Beverly Jenny up next god parents for a may have 680 WR KO.

I think that they may have aliens it -- I got a minivan and I don't think I'd pay excise tax versus someone because Hummer out. -- I felt scout troop leader I need it I have three kids my own I need a minivan and you know what it uses in -- that the Ford -- we have.

India noticed in the article in the globe from as a matter of fact it's not just -- comment about she's driving keep her -- shield children as well as. Girl scouts around figure contract -- others in in Brookline whose agent this is absolutely this is absolutely crazy this is like -- and he stayed dictating to wise. Whoo -- we have what we do what we can travel we kind drive. -- hit them on the size of the washing machine be hit them on the type affront as they have to type a fuel -- and where does this go into.

Well you well know what you think -- when he can't buy any car you want but if if you're gonna put stuff in the air that I breathe. Yeah out of you should pay for I think -- could sit well Carol some basic. You know they got the guy who tries to be -- CSU gates is with a guy comes the buffet table takes up all the trip doesn't care about anybody else.

on what -- so Italy it do you have a plan for the extra money that Brookline would collect on this do you just leave it and that you know in the hands of the town fathers are is there an environmental. Purpose to which this extra money would be devoted.

No this ago an and it actually although I'm not sure all I'm not sure how all of the listeners on WR KO fall in terms of lessening the property tax burden but disability general -- to the extent that there is that it gives. The city is it gives Brookline and I hope that appoint a model for other camps other municipalities if we give revenues it's not property tax based revenue.

Let's go to Catherine -- cast again next on veterans forum with the Eddie Fisher from -- line at Tom Finneran.

This site is right up there with Chanel coat -- relative I gotta tell you it's ridiculous I'd -- Volkswagen and its unity. And I get really good mileage car yeah that they can't. But I need what I I also bought light wouldn't have to buy a truck I'd tell or all of the I don't want to pay you I don't want to pick someone else like money.

I think he you're -- as you're already paying what -- mileage -- you pay every time you pull up to the -- fuel mileage is better than mine okay you're ahead of the game. If it's worse. I'm ahead of the game. I just don't see I mean the excise tax it's frustrating enough the people it infuriates people. But at least right now it's applied equally across the bloody and these proposal as I understand that. Is designed to to get people to change the year. Purchasing decisions of the behavior in order to try to stop this climate change that's.

It -- my right to make my own decisions I have had probably five. Over the last 20 years -- commuters are legal in at a bar and and they don't -- still. -- mileage in all the better actually grew we have now it has stayed clean it like this.

Candy what do you say to that is another Subaru person who by experience says it's not all that you cracked up debate.

Well consumers don't do it it'll find something that does you know -- prepared for the president market pushed we have four hybrid. -- ever achieve -- The -- it's suggested by government action all the time.

The Andy doesn't that tell you go in and of itself that you don't need this this -- to add insult to injury with this Brookline home rule petition that the marketplace is already making. -- adjustment with -- from -- I was over at you know just overrode a Bok are barking. So over the years ago to now it's going to be just over three dollars pretty soon and probably climbing diet the marketplace clearly will respond to that -- we need this proposal.

Well I'd have personal I don't think gases is is price nearly what the market possibly gas because we're fighting a war in Iraq. That is that is carefully gaps in and those in you know if it -- it the marketplace is paying for a cost of gas than -- it's going to take gas should be -- in Iraq tax. But that's another thing is with -- the marketplace as how to market -- affected by the government is. Skewed all the time by government action and you know we should do that awaited whys and the -- and the way the protects our planet. That we can push a little harder clearly GM hasn't gotten huge.

Let's go to T and T into Rochester for another call and DT up next on veterans for a may have 680 WR KO.

In this -- and a -- do great -- precedent. I can't even understand how you can be -- without -- and you know typical Protestant. Will -- will be consumed here in Massachusetts who meet certain groups certain prisoners have been different type of things that they run. People who have children you need to go to places just because you -- here on this. Outgrew that tip about global rambling on that you read out the facts about global diamond -- nobody -- a favorite look. But on this planet have been cleaned out -- I happened 20000 you know the government to respect utility -- the -- it's cyclical it's coming -- and you can't.

And what do you say it's --

The sciences in 20000 years ago we weren't having global warming -- thousand years ago that the glaciers restored keenly global warming product of the industrial revolution and the use of carbon fuels if you look at the graphics it has accelerated he continues to accelerate.

Candy back immediately era the -- 30 years ago he had hit headlines in Newsweek and time magazine saying. Global will cooling will have a global starvation because of climate change going on was leading to a cooling of the planet. Studiously at the same meteorologists who bought the they'd better about 50% when they predict -- what next weekend's weather will be of their -- better than 50%. I'm what you are and yet they -- they do a computer model -- 40 years from now the tide will be up in south Boston will be underwater I don't I don't. I don't buy it to be perfectly honest I don't mind taking environmentally sensitive steps but I don't -- what do you say that he probably others who say -- the 80 years ago the same climate experts told us that the planet was going into an ice --

Well they were wrong 30 years ago and sciences.

In the sciences in el -- a lot of us a lot of us continues suspect that the is still run on this CNN Newbury Indian Newbury port. -- next on appearance for a may have succeeding WR KO.

Hi could dote on that I believe that you that condition on climate change only predict it will wanted -- injured person Gordon. Whatever -- the -- on the attitude that I can numbers -- in -- want to -- rattling around -- Parent huge station wagon and that today would all the -- the books about transporting children. Com you have to have vetoed it they eat better. And so my question is if you if you'd let -- everyone would abide it involved -- is that -- And we are going to have more cars to transport the -- soccer game or -- cool which I do that almost every morning. More everything you do Garza wrote -- one that is what I really cut down -- not the amount of emissions coming out.

The article it happened is that GM would get domestic and make and make a fuel efficient -- needed.

Do your -- is just takes to where it's adamant about the appointee and either ridiculous that they reform that you mentioned we don't need to make and the model. But if the much of the market is already bull ring via does the market move with the speed in -- a in a focus. That that suggest this to this whole thing isn't it almost sounds to me is that this is quick to notice because let's say I of driving an SUV. Did you just want to give me a kick in the -- because I'm not as environmentally sensitive as you.

You're telling me I should I should to declare victory got out.

They appreciate let's go to let's go to Billy on the -- Billy yet next unfit parents for a may have 680 WR KO.

Good morning mr. fish -- That's going to speak our idea of just do okay. You can do you not only -- the public but sent it to what we got about -- publisher of -- but -- make more money some portable -- okay second of all percent Indy. You know I have a budget. I get it again international truck to get people out there doubt in my life exceed all get 26 mile that -- OK I get a -- to market percent. You know it is the problem is being geometric along the dole in 19 -- like he got -- of gallant act and the 1960. The suburban ticket. 18 miles that Albert solo shot off. You know tell the public that the -- as much gas mileage might quite forceful to an eight. You know I need -- No that's a mechanic that was some -- I don't like -- been working on more.

let me get -- chance to respond really appreciate -- obviously the insight into the different vehicles -- that guy -- called and -- three miles -- and his -- drives -- 150 miles -- the -- might be in -- the other guys in an -- everybody's -- the -- you know the -- emergencies the around zero lifestyle and it's not just a question of lifestyle like Paris open that moron. It's lifestyle work family professional occupation and the need for tools with the play in a bandelier capital in the like --

That's fair that's fair and they try to -- a 115 ultimately got to we need to we need to. Think about our whole transportation system and -- weaken them. Service more people in the case how we can get more people. That's the problem I think it's not it's not the construction worker needs to suburban carries tools. But the problem is how many suburban -- Nine Jerry -- 120 miles a gallon or in this southeast expressway coming in every morning with.

Single out just in -- just one person -- it -- we got a lot of college if you can hang on that'd be great we're coming up to assure outbreak of