4-25 Outrage of the Day-Veterans being passed over for Firefighters jobs
Mon, 25 Apr 2011|
In today's outrage of the day Michele had on Veterans being passed over by the Boston Fire Department in an effort to diversify the ranks. Dan Magoon, Boston Firefighter and a Marine, joined us with some returning veterans who have been passed over by the BFD who are seeking spanish-speaking firefighters.
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Yeah -- great another. Rage of the day shot. Day hell -- create. Sox. BS -- bowl. You can -- the complete and -- a setup that he's the only news of the decade. That's try to stuff -- me after the leave -- and head that absolutely bananas on the -- -- -- this is the outrage today. Okay look I have any problem. If Boston -- -- Iraq Frazier who is a veteran by the way wants to put on Spanish speaking firefighters because his claim. It that we now have nearly 90000 Spanish speaking clients. Living in the city of Boston. Which is kind of and I'd term. And only 60000. The clients are being served. Appropriately was Spanish speaking -- -- so the solution. They're passing over compact veterans. Returning from service and I Iraq and Afghanistan and gulf wars in order to and get this number bolstered a Spanish speaking fight factors so I spoke to the fire commissioner today Iraq Frazier and I said -- -- -- And he said look you know in the tiny abilities -- we need more espionage speaking for effects. My argument back alleys is maybe if folks Lebanese Boston. Need to learn how to speak English. -- maybe you could offer Spanish language classes to the fight by his authority serve any spots. But instead what is happening. Well we're gonna -- -- Laguna Boston firefighter he is also the head of the Boston fireman's posted The American Legion post number 94. Did a -- tomorrow there is a hearing on this issue. You're getting a lot of help from Peggy Matthews who's with the veterans advocate -- services. And there in our a lot of push back on as -- give us a rundown of what's happening. Did the commission pointed out that of the fifteen vacancies at they're trying to fill with Spanish speaking firefighters seven are returning vets. Well first off Michelle thanks for having -- -- tennis is not a huge issue for veterans as a whole not only the city of Boston but throughout the commonwealth because. This could certainly set a precedent for for every every every returning veteran who wants to life and casualty civil service. -- tomorrow's hearing huge for for what is set for all veterans. You know the seven individuals that are on that list you know they are veterans that do speak Spanish. But you know that they sent a pressed him because they jump and they jump on the gun and they jump on the list. It clearly states everyone knows -- -- -- come home. That they take the civil service test that it goes in order of of preference through disabled veteran. And veteran and civilians. No we recognize that some of these individuals that do speak Spanish. Our veterans but the other -- individuals and not and they most likely scored lower on the exam. And he said veteran -- disabled veteran. So we don't wanna see it set a precedent. Wrote the other communities and throughout the veteran community. That you don't -- services and -- -- recognized because you know not speak Spanish -- in a certain you know quality that that would the other being a veteran. Parent and you are a veteran and that's why you're advocating for these guys why not on the balls of fire department that you are the head of The American Legion post number 94 which represent 1005 that is over their. -- what is it what is the issue here I don't understand we have a process that works you get. You get on the top of the list if you served country I don't have a problem that. I had a problem with me EU jump the list a little bit if views and have bilingual skills. But now you talking about fifteen fight -- is gonna be hired. And up the fifteen only seven speaks Spanish I mean I'm sorry only seven serve the country at all so I -- not eat people have jumped the list. Which is infuriating a lot of veterans. Record and it goes back to erect position that was put in by the department. You know this list was -- established these guys to my left and right and -- -- I'm notified that they they -- comparing go through the process firing that a guarantee them a job. But he gave a seat at the table. You know as a returning veteran and more sees. These soldiers. They coming home that they're not gonna work you know this is a tough tough economy and maybe to get a job and in the enlist. Well the when the service with the with the idea that when they get no there's going to be a potential of them getting a job. You know we using using the preference that's given to a veteran or or disabled veteran when they wanna get on social service works. Now what do you trying to accomplish tomorrow at this hearing. What would basically going going back to to the original list that was established. Back and wonder -- Com and in the these these most these individuals that are involved. We're we're notified and the Melissa was thrown out analysts was thrown out because the city -- the the department wanted to come back and hire fifteen. Spanish speaking. As far as had to put this into layman's terms there was a list created in December 20 -- These two guys were on that list are expected to become Boston bye -- is and human. That list is cost because you didn't have enough Spanish speaking fight fight is on that list so these -- the left -- alert without a job. But they've served their country in me and I spoke a little bit -- -- -- with a two man. When he decided you they serve the country. They weren't combat situations they thought they had jobs in the Boston by the arm and then because they don't speak English and I'm sorry Spanish that cost. Right to clarify everything guarantee them job. You know to to lead to the department but. It came to see the table and actually let them and to get into higher process. Wants the new list came out certain individuals will bumps and in the fifteen jobs basically taken away from from guys that because he doesn't deserve them not racially. Okay now and when I spoke to the 5% this morning it's admissible we need to do to make -- of the people Boston answered appropriately. Now I imagine that these two guys if they had dined on the bus and fire department and so many people are what did you want to take Spanish. Residents if they often on which to -- seems like more fair and equitable solution. Then bounce some people off the list -- worked very hard in serve their country to be represented to get the seat at the table to get on the list. What do you think. -- -- would takes measure was offered. Right in you know some news. So. -- -- and this is once again political correctness. And trumping. Common sense I mean this is initial common sense and taking care of the people who have served in -- and again -- -- There are seven that do speaks Spanish that our veterans so if you have a problem at those guys can somehow. I mean I don't have a problem with what the situation and as a whole book that the biggest problem is is if you rewrite the rules midway through. The list was established. And -- an order of disabled veterans veterans civilians. I -- and midway through that was gets tossed out. This civilians on this list other than the seven Spanish speaking veterans that just walked out. Because they speak Spanish you know immaturity and a condition of employment I mean they. It is the hottest items that they haven't -- I'm speaking by artist or anything I'm sure we have Malta and we have multiple the balls of fire departments. Multi depression asthma and many many languages -- spoken you know what you specify and this this language in these neighborhoods in these districts throughout the city. I'm not talking about change and working conditions if you get a fire fighting you chai who speaks Spanish. And you and you may or any -- you can't make -- if -- -- and Steelers will pray they. You know why and I can't because it costs 350 to go to work every day at the who was a -- everyday regular the last rocks and -- -- if you live in other parts of the city I need you guys don't wanna work in East Boston because they don't give them a break on the tools. So you know -- whole issue tomorrow with with a hearing and we're hoping that human resource in the civil service commission. We'll go back to the original list and give these these these these brave warriors -- the table to become Boston firefighters. Now he's gonna get some help from -- Matthews and I noticed that she's calling in pay EUR Allen Michelle McPhee. For the outrage of the day already had that he. Eight Q it's our it's -- -- to call in on behalf of these contacts and but general I work with senators. And I'll tell you that many of these. Firefighters. These firefighter applicants. They put their -- off to become a firefighter after acting when they heard a call to duty. Now they're coming home and they are -- urgent need for jobs for veterans. Forward into an activist federal initiative. Asking employees and create higher. Disabled -- first. Well that given -- that Spanish speaking directed cannot trust the federal initiative. -- -- And they don't acting or being mutually exclusive. Security -- they're willing to -- speak Spanish. Is great and speaking disabled veterans out there and until they can be found. These disable -- need to go of her. They need you can not put American heroes blasting. And I can't hear you Peggy -- is that this is about this is not about whether or not which of Spanish speaking I'd buy it exactly right. -- -- What this is about is making sure that the people put it lives on hold a poignant but now lives -- line quite literally spilled blood for a flag should absolutely be put. Continue to maintain it needs this seat they -- at the table. Went to start this process all over again -- these two combat that's in his room right now is means that they and navigating on the -- -- -- Well they channel there are so they're the most qualified and they act because they've already done this work in Iraq and Afghanistan and they -- -- to be successful. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- He -- in the middle of a firefight with insurgents. And I -- man and his wife and baby got caught in the middle of in this firefight there of course insurgency is -- -- not any care about and and finally. Predicted that if of the vehicles it's exploding -- -- -- my family and his comrades. Stopped they've stopped what they were doing defending himself and trying -- statewide and ran over to that car. And pulled ghostly vehicle -- deeply individuals are that burning vehicle. Well and -- -- guys you know the kind of guys we want on this street. Pulling out of prior day's -- online. Back Guyanese Boston over somebody who just happens to speak Spanish and. Absolutely absolutely and whatever -- cage during your career are calling it but you do whatever I have to do I'm Scott Brando is. Has -- -- bill for that I'm making it a mandate. Higher disabled veterans. You know and every sector. Which is what I -- farm. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- That you're going to get a paycheck -- it out these these guys don't do it is that there work -- what they are is they're quarreling. And that's the big difference. I don't want somebody in a bad economy to go to the paper. And there are well in the firefight over the air we can't find anything else I'll go applying to children to speak Spanish. -- I don't they want it make you pay Peggy Matthews who is a great advocate for veterans we appreciate you joining us I don't think there's any possibility of not having a short list to become a -- and buy -- -- -- because it's a proud tradition we of the oldest fire department in the entire nation. There are generations of firefighters and if you paid your dues and you served -- country in your combat situations you should not be trumped a political correct. Exactly and believe me what I know will be plenty of -- speaking disabled veterans running around -- to pretty up high. It is the first time in his discussions even happen it's ridiculous the -- any spots and they weren't counted looking for a tiny speakers. You know the Chinatown. Folks are not screaming about Chinese speaking firefighters. It's ridiculous Peggy and it's. I don't move right somebody's thought it was started the time but if not more. -- only cash to acquire American heroes aren't getting the job. I certainly do as a taxpayer -- thank you so much for the call. -- going any last words I'm. You know this this this is a thing that they think that could affect veterans. And in the future we don't wanna set a precedent -- we wanna see guys and girls are returned from combat. I get get skipped. So why you know marriage -- marriage everyone a voice their opinion and stand behind these veterans who have. Have put their life on the line servant serving overseas to want to come home and get the job that's deserved them. And we should clearly look into the legislation that Scott Brown has filed that would make this -- mandate so thank you so much guys for coming -- Mary. I give you a chance to land tiny area next what Michelle McPhee on AM succeeded -- New York L hi Mary. Shout out I may have security bought into it can heat you can't say what. The commission it didn't help to. Have to look at Danish billboards now. We have to get every entry entry into the finished and -- but why are you start at. I didn't know when they went into a deal to grab someone -- on or were they hat. Which that they need to cancerous and it's Danish they need to get them out of the building. So I I support -- -- really agree with you I think get out from under the bed. It is pretty clear in any language when there is smoke billowing in in flames erupting. -- not. Well at the end -- this is you want -- pilot Scott aren't strict contract in this community either government or keep pushing Iranian capital attachments. Keep -- civil service. Right here at the way they act you can change like you're pregnant and it's strange and it can do. No I didn't try different apiece to try out and saying to reduce their speed. Speaking I don't think that they are requesting special treatment Mary thank you so much for the well I'm McKee we -- hands at eighty WRKO what do you think. -- -- Welcome back -- and excerpt I don't quite as what -- -- combat veterans and had access the fighting -- -- act because they didn't speak Spanish. Doubt it you would be correct and this is why this hearing is speaking please tomorrow that's why it was the outrage today. The people by the people who earned it don't you come from what language you speak about you rock at the end of. Eight Michelle IE Dolan Allen Beirut tonight at a fire in my outside and appreciate those guys okay. INS and fire firemen -- out of which brought my immigrant killed a line of duty. Also on the Internet isn't it ironic that this fight between Democrat the Democrats supported Hillary Clinton and it Democrats who supported. Barack Obama okay. And I don't know where that's going Robert but I I do appreciate the call so the people get involved makes a lot of what happens at this hearing tomorrow. Doesn't that president that's gonna hurt every combat that comes back from fighting now aren't three ports. So this is the real issue quickly. Save -- voice your opinion City Hall where everyone older than you want these these guys and girls who return home. To get this -- -- people. Three combat that thank you be -- service gentlemen I am gonna be. How we aren't -- bad -- -- Iraq now.

