Theo Emery from the Globe joins Barry

Our guest this segment to steal -- he wrote an article in today's Boston Globe called deal elusive for reverting to shut down he's the national political reporter for the Boston Globe feel. Has it -- today.

Well it's a great if there are kept well no actually.

that it is so that is what do you guys have an odds making system down there to determine whether sings gonna shut down on Friday.

March Madness is over. So much of the debate placing bets at this point but but there's a lot of guess work going on about what the outcome of the situation debate.

What time is it done Friday it shuts down 6 o'clock at nighter I would be. So if it shuts down let's just go with the the scenario because -- a lot of people are trying to decide which. Side of the equation they fall on this issue do they may be made there might be people who want the government to shut down.

With what with do we lose if the government shuts down at midnight.

Well most people's will to what happened. Nineties as to what would happen and it to the general view is that it would be to escalation it would be in the immediate -- ample national parks which. Washington Indians would. Probably agencies would not be able to intakes. I think Social Security applicants right that. But the those kind of effect a vastly over time. -- is an unanswered questions to people would have. We have on line services -- network is black people to email. So there's -- and it's a question that.

What happens to like the FBI though in the Internal Revenue Service stays like. Do federal police officers get laid off what happens to the military.

Which generally what happens is every agency have a plan in place in the identified. Eight quorum urgency of the please -- need to have on on -- what. On and so you know agencies. We've shut down and they will continue to function and -- it was they figure out -- not the folks that are not essential are told stay home the ones that are essential. Stay on the job. And so we did you not get the that we know FBI agents working streets. Taxes collected and services will continue. But Italy skills that level went -- to people won't be there.

Now a lot of this pushes down to the state level as well from what I can gather reading in your article and in the New York Times that. You know a lot of the funding for state unemployment programs coming from the federal. Government that that that would impact would it have on somebody's ability to collect unemployment insurance.

Well is that I think it's a question that. That's a little hard for for me to answer right now but but I think you know it is I think it will be questioned how old. How what can make that happen whether it will be a.

Now the are used what is your sense when you're doing pulling -- when you're reading quinnipiac polling. Are are people saying yes shut the government down or are they saying. -- don't don't let these guys shut down on the need to keep working and keep the system work it would how to how to how does he and American public feel about this.

I think it's gonna depend on on how long it lasts. You know it lasts a couple of hours. And it really won't be much effect but it is turned into the eighties who read weeks that it did back in. --

Would it last last I was three weeks. -- three week a government shut down so. It in termed it seems to really what you think you're telling us is it's almost impossible to anticipate. Just how severe.

The the team will be.

Based on a government shut -- we know we don't really know do.

I think it depends on how long. It could happen yup and how long it takes to make deal. You know the couple hours or days might be relatively. It was though of course -- people's will be convenient. Suffer a little bit perhaps but but it -- it -- longer. It becomes a problem yup that work.

And it is the same thing go as it relates to who to blame fort.

It's you and I think it's one of the big questions that part of this whole thing is all sides agree here making chicken. And they're counting on acted like -- side. Look bad. Repercussions wear them on and that cinematic guesswork there yup and it --

Yet as the last time the Republicans did this during the Clinton administration blew up in their face turn.

It it it generally that the -- that this epidemic in the Republican look at this time around the dynamic very different.

The democratic senate and it's generally a Republican House democratic senate and the White House. It to the degree. In all of trying to broker an agreement but that the.

But not idol I don't think the president's been terribly involved at all do you have a quick. I think he's a lot less involved in this say than what when Bill Clinton was in office.

Well he has difficulty he had. It congressional leaders White House yesterday and and they left after a after meeting. Air without any kind of deal I'm depressed and afterward said. Be called on members of congress to that it uses terms stopped at. Acting like children and in. -- end to these -- is it any else's it you know we wanna have people back here. To date Wednesday in every community takes at this point -- I don't believe that there is such. But there's a lot of balls in the air things could change.

It almost seems say even that with the Republicans are asking Ford cut error -- are really inconsequential in terms of their impact on the budget.

I bet that's what the argument being made the -- what -- looking at -- It's part of the budget for discretionary funding generally. Witnessed some flexibility in terms of doesn't it really military. Medicare. In the deep those big questions really big -- like that the federal government and probably get a lot more attention to well like it. It is also scene -- at this year's budget for the rest -- the.

That makes a lot more challenging it doesn't it doesn't cut it to accept same time. Other. All right thanks very much for joining us today Steele appreciate your time to time that's -- Emery from the Boston Globe joining us today on lunch money.