Charlie Baker on the Debate

IBM's security W archer. 77469432218774694322. That's the toll free number of the Howie Carr shook it like to join us here this afternoon every weekday afternoon. I want to say I spent a lot of time I didn't think any calls with Tim -- for the one that try to nail down on this open about the voting democratic even Morrison is not a Democrat anymore but we'll take some calls with Charlie Baker and I'm sorry didn't they more or -- I didn't take any calls with Tim Cahill I apologize for that. 18774694322. Charlie thanks for being whether -- how -- car show.

Our area god hey -- I didn't know until last night that you would been on the transition to -- guy had been paying attention you -- on the transition team for Deval Patrick.

And looked governor. -- called and asked me if they're better health care transition team and Governor Patrick that's news service by its transition team governor called armistice that bastion that. I gotta tell -- you know the most interesting thing about subtle process with -- came down to one very simple question our last meeting which was. Okay what should I do as the new governor about -- 400 million dollars million in 92. And I says. You should take dumb. And you should not spend them because the one thing you need to worry the most about is not balancing the budget and maintaining control the State's fiscal situation. And he says thank you very much to me and several other people and I think. Basically told the -- go ahead and over -- amendment -- the first thing we did and that was the clear indicator that merely. That this is gonna be a different kind of administration of -- once we've seen previously.

He he said thank you very much in the recall the Cadillac dealership.

Well it and then started measuring the office.

Well listen to what it what did you think we played it earlier tonight for a Tim Cahill what did you think of this so love fest last night will play a little bit of -- now for people who were just getting off work out of the love fest between is -- we have done.

He's used as Tim said some federal stimulus some rainy day fund because it was it was raining. I gotta give I gotta give props is the same neighborhood to Tim in the management of the school building. Authority program it is it is functioning better today than it used to be into him he deserves some of the credit. And and Tim is right for us -- punch him his rights and thank you mr. Patrick won as well I think I think you're right -- I think I think Jim is right and go ahead and then you I just wanna build on and on -- point I'm. I'm Tim I'd love to have your health.

She's like Devin help starting area hotel. They look. You know that they read together four years ago you know I've talked about this before after Kato. Endorsed the governor whether democratic primary for his courageous stand against reducing the income tax to 5% it's that it the government for the past four years I mean the -- spend the money and the treasures side projects.

I know and one of the democratic candidates. For treasurer Steve Murphy is says pointing this out -- unless the unless they have the the treasurer signs. The the bond offerings they're -- any bond offerings and an -- Harbaugh and our -- per capita indebtedness has gone through the growth in the last forty years sector and ensure that that's demos of Democrats stock ended this Steve Murphy anyway talking about that's you know.

So we know so well look this -- this. This is very simple way and I said this last night. I think we can do a lot better I think. Beacon Hill is actually broken when it comes to fiscal policy intact policy. And if people but by the governor and a -- seem to think that you know it could be worse and therefore. -- they deserve to be reelected my goodness is they had their chance they didn't get it done. And people should vote for me.

You know people people are or wild about this whole -- the whole pension system and now I mean talk about an unfunded liability.

What -- two billion dollars.

Now he he say he says YouTube you came up and you said do you know we're just a drop in the bucket and but you were the AMF's secretary. Correct I did you mean did you. That that means -- the budget chief this did you want did you try to do what -- think -- try to get these skyrocketing costs under control.

How -- during the four years. The eight years -- and big government we did a couple of really important things one thing was we actually reduce the size of this State's workforce. But I pretty big number which helps a lot of overtime when it comes to amend menacing pension cost. We also completely restructured the disability pension system. We created terror act which is the oversight mechanism oversees the State's system in the local system. -- kind of thing and don't -- I don't remember the exact numbers here. -- rough numbers well we got there the unfunded liability was around twelve billion by the time I left in 98 I think it was -- around six. Okay so we cut the unfunded liability by about 50% over that period of time. Since treasure jailed in the treasure the numbers not thirteen billion to 22 billion. Unfunded liability that's the size of the deficit we face today and you know. We were talking about pension reform right after I got into this race last spring and everybody started talking about it just a huge problem. Edit you know the governor and the treasurer. They either think. It's very huge problem -- simply -- willing -- take it -- because it a lot of they don't want upset -- the unions that are so important to them for from a campaign point of view.

Did when the governor said that he is cut four billion dollars last night what what was your or reaction what do you what do you think.

Well I can look. He he -- he inherited a budget bill is around 2728. Billion remember the exact number doubt around thirtieth 31 so. Over the course the last few years the budget cut up by three billion dollars. That's the way it is I don't think NN -- takes us to talk to most people out there. You know get much sense from them that they feel like big government and particularly hard hit by the recession over the course the past four years in fact. That's one of the big messages here from a lot of people which is they feel like state governments and claim by a completely different federal rules that everybody else. And the one thing I will say about this is what state spending has gone up okay. Local aid has gone down and one of the things that bothers me about that one is that is -- ends up affecting you know class size. And as school fees and public safety and all that kind of stuff the stuff that's really close to home for a lot of people and you know I've said from the beginning on this campaign. The last place we should be going to local -- we should be cutting the bureaucracy. And simplifying state government cutting state spending area that's where we should be going first.

What it is a big story and you -- Framingham people are shocked -- they have to paid them via buses for their kids like that taxes aren't high enough I know we'd you know -- next door in the are almost next door and Wellesley we we have to pay hundreds of dollars for that. You're right I mean. And the thing.

story in the paper today. You got kids or five or six years old so it up and -- inspections have to figure out or get across the street -- Now that's the other thing about doubt Larry that came up in the debate last night as well. You know the governor the treasurer have opposite -- their hands and giving cities and towns all I've been talking about on this health insurance reform is giving cities and towns. This same flexibility this stage has. To make changes in the health insurance plans. Which most people estimated to save a hundred million dollars and the only reason they won't go there about what is absolutely a function of some of their.

Hasn't that always attempted to do that as -- to a degree.

The -- made it possible if you can get 70%. Of the union membership and community to vote to join the GIC eight you can you can do that and as a result I think nineteen communities have done it. You got every mayor in Massachusetts every city councilor most town managers stand but just give us this favor authority the state has to change web design. And and it will take care of the rest and they're right about this one and that kind of thing that the governor and treasure should've been campaigning for instead of opposing working against. -- Wait like Framingham. Places like. The communities they're talking about wave that is similar to other places they would not have the same kind of problems they have right now. Financially if they had the ability to make some of these adjustments to their health insurance.

And of course we are still waiting for our property tax. Rebates.

Yeah I -- the governor talked about values you know it's one of the values you know don't make promises you know -- he's been. That that that's a big what I mean that was put the one thing they came out of that campaign that most people remember. Cut property to attack the cut to tactic.

Audio is going to but he is he's changed his mind he doesn't think there's too much freedom in the United States anymore and he will he will now implement the will of the people. Two RBI on the sales however said.

Long although although I must say. I find that interesting given that both he and the and the treasure were opposed to implementing the will of the people. You'll we have 4% unemployment at a pretty rosy budget situation back. So where -- years ago.

I was just ask -- I was just asking the treasurer who -- plans to vote for in the democratic primary I mean he was very eager to us to make his choice known in 2006 that he was for Deval Patrick because of this like you say is courage I don't.

This thing about that how he was democratic city like the ball right yeah he did all of all of the Democrat primary.

Yeah applicable Levy said that to the Statehouse news service want to imagine that you Charlie did a good job I didn't see it live but I saw bits and pieces of it later and that that was pretty good I mean by the way which campaign insisted that everybody be sitting down.

I don't know the answer to that I think yeah. I think judge good buddy we get a more robust discussion. Going if we -- offsetting any also. You know they had issues with cameras and lighting and stuff like that I actually thought the format. Worked out pretty well that I dialect of freewheeling nature of the discussion and I especially like the fact. That and a number of these issues you know I had a chance to really point out that there's a clear difference between -- in front. And way to treasure the governor coming from little lot of these key issues people care about.

Where were you who were you somewhat surprised. That that that Tim Cahill was less of a Christie -- hosts in this debate them had been some of us have expected him the big.

Well I think frankly had a lot of the issue that I got into -- the governor on the treasure -- the same position as the governor so there's no way for him to get into that debate anyway. If you have a comment on the side of the governor.

1877469432218774694322. Let's take some calls for a Charlie Baker the Republican candidate for governor. GR radio debate first you got a radio debate coming up next week. And again we call we got we call the governor's office and die -- he doesn't seem interested in -- and our I had an hour generous offer as much time design you want to he wants. But then you got -- then you got the big TV debate what does that that's two weeks from tomorrow night right let's finish first that's what consortium debate -- all the stations right so that's the real big went. After the primary. John your next with Howie Carr and Charlie Baker Republican candidate for governor go ahead John.

I tell you again it'll look lot of state drive me crazy about them well but I gotta tell you just -- the -- anybody involved with the Big Dig out. You may want you off this deal you to I would love to know why you got that position. Like how much you're making any last night in the debates and let him slip there. I don't know what do the box set a vote yeah intact still want the other two guys get. So much tax breaks for bankrupt company ought to -- you what was he talking about it you got audited by their. You got funded through electoral but he out.

Some -- the attorney general was. The radio this afternoon saying that you're the guy oversaw the receivership -- we told them how bad the financial -- And the state this is Harvard is Harvard and Harvard pilgrim. And and I'm Riley said this you know Harvard pilgrim denounced or Norton at Harvard pilgrim get one diamond state money which is true. In Harvard pilgrim was basically dysfunctional pretty much broke. When I took it over and we made a lot of very difficult tough decisions. But they were the right decisions we reduced our hedge out over two years by almost 50%. And but we expect that they'll admitted the number one ranked helped lead in the country for five years in a row and I think this is just the governor is way up again trying to change the subject and talk and the treasures as well. To talk about something other than the failed policies of the past four years. When I'm out there are on the campaign trail of people wanna talk about is what you gonna do about spending taxes. And an end jobs and that's what I talked about that's what they wanna hear about and frankly I don't get a heck of a lot of specifics on any of that the governor in the --

addict I edit like this that I didn't see the whole thing but did you bring up the fact that you know huge whack and you on the Big -- and so -- KLA and they never play the they never talk about the fact that weren't they gonna bring in back teller Parsons break -- whatever they call it now. Vented to do some of the work on the -- MBTA on the go on the new green line project.

Well not only ended yesterday yes although the board voted I think yesterday. To not bring -- after your newspapers. Say this waited out that that's consistent with the governor's -- position on an addition that project basically doubled in cost. Over the course of the past four years. Double what like a quarter million dollar project around and -- billion dollar project and then. I said last night you know I stepped up and accept. And make clear what my role was. Many times which regards. That particular financing plan that I put in place working with governor weld in the Clinton administration and everybody else because that's federal shortfall. Which the exact same plan. That the governor used in the treasury signed off on. To fund their bridge reconstruction program but the reason they keep coming back to -- the reason they keep talking about it is because. They don't wanna talk about what's happening now or what's happened over the course -- for years they'd rather talk about something that happened fifteen years ago. And frankly that's not what the voters there aren't just didn't know what the voters wanna talk about the voters wanted to know. What are we gonna do to get people back to work cut spending cut taxes and redeployment -- wrote your investment.

I believe -- the Big Dig was first the the dream of my his act yet his mentor or semi mentor and and Fred -- Gucci.

Up as the 25 year project 25 years. -- I was 22 when it got start.

And who did Mike Dukakis endorsed in 2006 and can be expected to endorse again this year right.

That would be. That would be. Patrick -- Ed and by the way you know there's another thread there by the name of Jim always see. Actually wrote a book about the big -- because he was so involved in it right from the beginning all the way -- well eventually became. Deval Patrick. Secretary of transportation --

Whose representative whose reputation was so tarnished that they couldn't even put a minute first the secretary of transportation but them later -- prepared the hit yet it came back to bite -- oh yes. 18774694322. -- that -- have been predicted the -- their code that there were -- yeah ER shoot me Steve you're next with Howie Carr and Charlie Baker go ahead state.

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You gotta -- Steve you know combined. I just did get a jog your next what Howie Carr and Charlie Baker go ahead John.

Oh I I just wanna know where they can get out. Quote so for my driveway and for mr. baker.

Only yards line. Yeah yeah Charlie Baker when he turned back just go to the web site where you can just talk to campaign up look -- six.

Always doesn't fresh -- Charlie Charlie told CNB doesn't have a computer where we're gonna stay in office what's the six point seven fortunate retorted then. You get that John. All -- only -- thank you judge John Debbie your next with Howie Carr and Charlie Baker go ahead Debbie.

It terribly into this so they can feel good about that pane and I'd just click got a call from the democratic national.

Committee in New Hampshire elected at my age they want it though if I like it did not like Obama. They wanted to -- they wanted to ask am I going to continue to every prospect editor Bob doing a good job they are running scared thank you very much.

So this is all I'm gonna tell you the national stuff this stage stuff it's all the same it's all about. It's all about spending and you gotta gotta the other Democratic Party that that -- that the way out of there is to spend more money in the got a lot of regular people out there. We're looking at that -- in this positively not. The way out of this is is to get really aggressive about. Reining in spending and I think cutting taxes creating a climate for.

It thanks for the call Debbie -- your next with Howie -- and Charlie Baker Republican candidate for governor go ahead --

Good afternoon. The voters hold true unfortunately it's on the bottom.

Welcome and that.

They listened. You keep saying there's two billion dollar. Hole in the budget for this year not next year that the -- you know we're not good you get out and had like 600 million. You've got to define that very specifically because he's just gonna deflected with walker talk about the big -- Then the other thing is seeing him lying very frankly about cutting four billion dollars out of budgets. But he hasn't done that either of the budget we're gonna come out. Wouldn't be going up he also says something about eliminating 2300 positions in this state I think there are all positions. The whenever field in the first place I don't think he's eliminated anything.

Look there's no doubt in my mind that and I and I say this is somebody who likes and admires a lot of people who work for state government but there's no doubt in my mind. We have miles -- And creating efficient and and it's simpler and and more streamlined state government bureaucracy mean that is absolutely going to be a primary goal and objective of my. Come January all of this he's simply cannot afford to keep Jerry in the kind of government we've been carries.

Somebody's cup more people making 30000 and he has a 100000 I would bet anything on that with Charlie were out of time but you know you're welcome any time and we'll talk to assume you -- job good job last night. Somehow we car over 40%.