Guy Glodis for State Auditor

Eight auditors all of you know Joe -- new -- who's been in fourth. 24 years I believe 25 years he's leaving his state auditor he's stepping down retiring it's an open fight. And we've had very -- in the Republican on with pad -- Suzanne Bump one of the Democrats on the today we have. Love the person who a lot of folks think is leading in the democratic primary for state auditor. Guy go load is who is currently the sheriff of Worcester County. A former state legislator also in now he's running for state auditor Clinton on the line statewide how you -- guy thanks a lot for the front runner status means more more people be whacked me over the next season. I or maybe right I knew it Jack -- exactly hey it's great to be on child I am a big fan you guys you have some great shows and some great gas and -- my pleasure first we always ask god first on someone's on our should I have let teller listen little bit about yourself when you grew law but. Were you went to school what you've done -- it.

I'm I'm basically urban kid I grew up on the east side of west of the working class out of what's their idea idea paid my way through college I joined the labors union eighteen years of age begin. -- and strategy isn't working a lot of jobs I I it was fortune off. To again not pay my way through UMass Amherst and I did some work after that. Went to work and for the bank guide to semi pro business development work and then. I was very fortunate in my mid twenties to be able to be the youngest person elected state -- out of what star. At the time and then you should be an incumbent I was an open seat OpenId -- right after that a person you know a very wells we all do Marion morello. Who was a Republican he vacated his seat and rightly after that to run for congress. In it was an opening for state senate very tough race -- as you know conservative Democrat right there was a very hotly contested seat that's seated and in Republican hands for a long time. Almost even to this day off almost all the state reps are Republican. I went on to be careful -- who's a candidate for state treasurer and -- became the youngest state senate up. And and then in my thirties idea and decide the challenge establishment I took on my own party there was an incumbent sheriff that. It then it 24 years great guy act can't say anything bad about him personally but. Really became Panamanians equated GL. He was sharp force the Connie we campaigned on forty different reforms. In we received to a lot of surprise who are huge underdog the entire political establishment income -- democratic establishment was against me -- my opponent had a congressional support and state senate isn't state wraps and we ended up -- not only winning. People were able to institute all forty of those reforms from. A halfway house to an anti nepotism policy to promotions based on exams to senior citizen Triad programs leading to the GO for the first time. In the history nationally accredited. But won't swallow that a lot of national. Fiscal awards for fiscal innovation in the state I recognize with the county. Is having the most precipitous drop in workers' comp so we did a lot of good things in not only for the inmates. But for the taxpayer is we we doubled the size of the community service programs even. Millions of dollars to taxpayers in Worcester -- you know that's life. You on so intrigued with the auditors office because in many ways. I -- very similar to that -- six years ago it's become a very dormant. In some ways almost in equated constitutional office and I think. Someone has an opportunity going in really reform and modernize it and make it much more of a stronger constitutional officer has been in the past.

You listen the guy -- this who's the candidate for state audit of the sheriff of Worcester County now most -- guys -- get elected sheriff. They feel like they've died and gone they have been and they they wanna hang onto that job as long as possible. Your move and -- you're taking the big risk in running statewide might Lois and I. I don't believe in term limits I don't think government should be about complacency is stagnation and be very easy for me to stay there I had no opposition house running not on opponent -- six year term it's a six year term rise in -- and in some ways it's it's a pay cut in the sense that. The budget is twice the size as it is the auditors office the auditor's offices in eighteen million dollar a year budget. She was kind of shares is 44 million this three times more employees was county sheriff's office so. I definitely feel as if I have the managerial skills to be able to go -- from day one and in really reform and modernize that office but you're right -- the worst thing you can being government stagnant I don't wanna be one of the sheriff's it to stayed -- Year after year after year it's the -- a 3040 years I mean I've always said if he can't make a difference the first four or five years. How can make a difference in fourteen of fifteen years I've always been a big believer in term limits. Get in make a difference get out and you know that's been my monitor since day one and -- gonna continue you know do the best we can serve in the taxpayers are at less than two weeks is the democratic primary this three Democrats running for the office.

people go win that primary and take up. Take a Democrat ballot that day why should they vote for -- coolest what's the big difference between you the other two candidates who run well I gotta tell you I think the biggest difference is just the track record of being independent you know I have one Republican opponent who worked for the Romney administration have another democratic opponent -- work for the Deval Patrick administration. In a third opponent who worked for the Clinton administration that's a good. But one -- been very partisan politicians are all very strictly. It hit to their potty partisanship and I think the audited should be a very independent position and should be very objective. And should be focused on eliminating waste and mismanagement in the can't be somebody that's afraid. To rock the -- to challenge the political establishment I mean. Yeah you know I I -- one can I think -- rubber stamp anything that the Governor Patrick does and you know I -- you know cancer I'm gonna going to adversarial leave that you that a challenge each person will -- auto show you absolutely that's I think that the auditor is already watchdog job it's eight. You know it can't be and I said this the they can't be a lot lap dog it's got to deal watch stocks rise is all lot of money. That has been misappropriating that I had have -- it's not afraid this the end up. To the establishment whether it's a democratic establishment Republican Sen Sharma serving in the state senate. I was the only Democrat to vote for the rollback of the state income tax I mean I was always endorsed by Bob -- this and one I've always been a very. Independent person not afraid to vote in the best interest of the taxpayer is. Not of the political affiliation that I belong to a and I think that's been the margin of in the past I was able to challenge a popular democratic incumbent sheriff but you don't years earlier I got elected and all -- womanly. Republican district as a Democrat I think it's a very educated electorate today. They just don't simply vote because you have -- DI next he name they wanna make sure the Kennedy is qualified and you wanna know the candidate has a vision. In a message and agenda so the first answer. That's alliance of her quick question right I think being very independent and being the candidate -- reform. Secondly is on the only can actually balanced the budget I have a 44 million dollar a year budget is sheriff was the counties -- mentioned received national awards for fiscal renovation. I'm with -- 14% budget cut the wouldn't even have a balanced budget every year no supplemental hope is that mention we had the largest drop in work is com. I feel as if I can have the managerial skills to make data off it's much more relevant I'd like -- As the Al goes on talk a lot about that office because it's an office that a lot of people don't know about. But it's such an important Paramount office --

It absolutely is. So depth the big difference -- background as a manager the fact that your independent anything else that really separates you from the other two Democrats that are running I don't listen -- both good people I've met both of them I like them both personally have you had the candidates. We've had some debates have had some forms all right good Peabody. Over the water cooler at WA IG -- debating you know a lot of it is a -- they're talking about -- oratorio Orioles blog and everybody likes Joe -- the good guy but you know I have to tell you. I don't -- much of -- life I've read a lot of reports from the auditors office and I'm gonna ask every candidate the -- and it's it's running fraud and of this question. State audit -- Stevie concedes. And when they criticized. The spending more the people that they need to -- the wave then an agency operates. They never name names. I wanna know who's running that agency I wanna know who was in charge I wanna know who was making the decision tough. By the flat screen TVs for Iraq for that agency your. Or it's approve the money for those travel or whatever it is it's all. -- the executive office sold copilot took so there -- review ordered her phone died in in their chest so there almost written in the way. That they want to put you to sleep before you get to the good stuff. And and I gotta tell you guy I wanna know who made the calls in these situations are you gonna was auditor when the audit comes out. Well I know who. Who made the decision who were you name name life.

Think not only do have the name names and agencies in the parliament speaker to take a step further I think one of the and showed Dynegy is a good man had a tremendous amount of respect from but I have a completely.

If invasion and a completely different leadership style then than Joe I mean once you conduct the audit.

That's not yet I don't that's the beginning in many ways of what the auditors should dormant if you look at some states like. Pennsylvania in New Jersey the otter is -- my key constitutional. Job.

It's introducing public policy introducing legislation and when you find waste and mismanagement.

I think it's incumbent upon the auditor not just released a report the names you might be just the right -- talk about the solutions signing you know one -- have talked about Charlie's these rental agency fees we pay over a hundred.

Million dollars.

On rental fees for state agencies in privately held buildings French the -- his fellow that owns the building yeah and I like to know current since last year the mass trial court spent three and a half million dollars looking out -- plush office space in Boston --

We've been abandoned building and what -- a courthouse just may. Rod being used if you look at the deal why -- deal lock. Mass highway Mass Turnpike the common social services so many of these agencies are in buildings. Paying lodge rents when we -- with 300 unused state buildings all around state but it just sitting in the door. I mean that's an idea for the knotted up to say hey here's a way -- we can save money in the same time not even be laying people off but. Getting rid of these rental agency fees that are costing well over a hundred million dollars a year.

When we have hundreds and hundreds of state buildings just sitting -- Now granted not every state buildings -- dry -- in the some stand some state buildings and infrastructure problems through war and had to be abandoned but there are dozens upon dozens of state buildings up turnkey that you can't be relocating. Some of these agencies they're paying huge dollars. For rent back in the state buildings and saving money for the tax base so you know I think that's another area the differences. You know listen establishment supports one of my opponents that's fine if you feel like the status quo great.

But I wanna make our office more proactive I wanna make it -- just bodies showing -- report -- you do something about it you go until legislature if filing legislation you don't immediate pressure really should bring in this topic up a public debate about these are ways we can save money I'll tell another big issue. -- jobs you know people say I'm not time well geez how knotted up play a factor with jobs. It's a huge continent should be a huge -- of the auditor's job.

You know right now we'd lose millions of dollars in Massachusetts every time we -- out of state employees. We at a construction project and was the last year ten million dollar construction project almost every single construction job went out of state went to Connecticut Rhode Island.

Dad has a -- well but it's been a little bit errors they should get the work right while it's not just about being a little bit some of that money should be going to Massachusetts because when it's going outside of Massachusetts.

of lost revenue -- unemployment insurance you have benefits I'd love to do a study. On how expensive is from Massachusetts to be hiring. I out of state employees and -- talking about the cape wind project on the cape. They wanna build the turbines in Rhode Island do you Kim English is being built into bed fed info already we -- the most educated work force we have the highest test scores. A many high school students in the nation we have some great vocational schools one of the things is most attractive of Massachusetts is the educated work force. There is no excuse why we should be going out of state looking for jobs and in these issues that the -- audited can be weighing in on public policy.

Now Joe -- so lame duck he's going to be leaving in January no matter who wins whether you win or whoever won the other candidates win. In gasoline dot he just gave out a bunch of races. To his employees to. In in these economic times I'll tell you we talked about it here in the Charlie Manning so people were not happy about that. They didn't think it was the right thing to do what you think you've chosen to give an.

So while I mean in Phoenix ought to make it -- I wasn't endorsed by Joe did you teach how to be very up front I don't -- think people think I mean -- you know I was critical of it I tried not to politicize it that was his decision right I was when these -- a press release right away looking for attention on the -- I oppose it I just think it sends the wrong message. In government when you laying off police and firefighters in central campaign finance funding you know. I just think it sends the wrong message in today's -- aged that we giving these. You don't pay raises -- and if you gonna do it it's gotta be done fairly and equitably. You know we've done no management theories as it was Connie Jiabao has -- collective bargaining agreements that right he had backs. But nobody in management than any type of pay raises census financial crisis well over two and a half years ago. So you know again -- try not to politicize it I get asked volatile and so my answer is I oppose it. In the first thing I do for lack it is audit the auditors office make sure everybody here that's working is confident. Qualified professional in the have the vision. Of the management on how to save money eliminate waste and bureaucracy and -- really make sure that there in tune with what -- jobs post -- about.

That sky glowed as the candidate for state auditor 6176666. Seats are number 617666. Feet sixty if you wanna just if you run around you can't win on the line. Just text -- a question I'll ask god for you 68680. And if you wanna email us Chris we keep him and I in the email C Manning at wrko.com. C Manning at wrko.com. Let's not start grab some calls companies that. Folks wanna talk to you Ron and Salem your first today with on the -- show with state auditor candidate guy -- just.

choking every okay you great. Guy he -- entry into Charlie's question let me ask you. Specifically great great seeing you one in the roundabout answer yes you. If if you were the state auditor would you explain we would. Who who exactly painful flat screen TVs just to use red as an example. -- you can really answer the question.

Ron I'll be happy to answer yes I well but I said.

I'll say yeah we are flourishing right normally I don't trying to I don't wanna yes.

Let -- hang on. God instead of just naming the state agencies will you name the names in your raw audit if you discovered that people wasting the taxpayers' money.

You can't I can't do that. Well let's look and Swiss opponent I told you union guy what does that tell you what -- so you need to know.

What what let -- let me answer will you name names I said not only what I named names and agencies but I'd like to take a step further -- not just as sure report -- do something about the report rob Gentile alike run that's how I heard him I heard him say yup I'd name names. But also. I wanna suggest like ways that may be they can save some money at -- agency you know what -- chicken -- and names -- on -- you have to do something about it and I think that's what the dotted passively more proactive -- if they're finding waste and mismanagement not just naming names in walking away. But naming names with solutions this is the duplication is the bureaucracy this is how we can save more money and you know I can tell you -- coal Lotta people cynical about government but we we're able to do a -- county sheriff's -- we actually reduce up payroll. We reduced our management and despite a 14% budget cut we had a balanced budget every yes so I'm not just saying what it says that. Get elected you can look at what I've done in the past Ron. Don't tell me is Bobby Kennedy used to say don't tell me what you're going to do you tell me what you have done. That nobody -- line. Joe in Roxbury you're next with guy glowed as the candidate for state auditor -- you don't have a job.

Hey Dylan good chatting -- that debt that last pay raise that Joe didn't know cheap and I gave his staff on the way out I can't let us. Sucker punch to the taxpayer. Right below the belt. But you know I wanted to ask you guys what is the difference between.

Well I think my philosophy is it -- listen I've been the outsider reform and marries a good -- I've met up. But I think she's been tied into the institution show a long time -- I've been a member of the Republican state committee for 27 years she. She worked for John Malone she was appointed she served under the while Patrick she served on the Mitt Romney. You know same as my democratic opponent who's worked on the Deval Patrick and worked as. Insurance lobbyist I mean on the 12 DNA in this race it's made my own stuff in government. In May in my own path and public service and not what you want worked for somebody I worked for the taxpayer is and that's why -- been. Reelected a Republican district overwhelmingly year after year.

You know what the best thing about -- weird guy -- Jill that they'd ban you from the Bible tells us Saint Patrick's Day rolled blackness may. You -- right and what's that well get out get knocked me out because you know what a lot of people --

Well I've never been the choice the politically correct gel yeah. Yeah.

That's good good taking you know -- you know to be talked out of that that met that they kept is that bad --

Not the they just they -- excellent I thought a lot of folks may not know the story about god I did everybody knows the self the Saint Patrick's Day breakfast they remember when Billy Bulger hosted it meant -- lanchin now lives -- harness that. Whoever the state senator is when guy was the state senator he came in and brought some. Worcester County you. I'd like I'd say in other words he was too tough on the boy does in his remarks. And it wasn't appreciated and they didn't invite him back and like joke for rocks very said that might BA -- Red badge of courage for -- politician dot -- advice and back to the.

stated that they have HIG can't take itself too serious I've always -- take job serious take what you do for a living serious they can't figure something singers in the -- funny itself on the first person to make fun of myself and talk to rose -- ball but boy at times change and you look at how politically could well what I should solve Boston's become politically correct. It's really become politically correct in Massachusetts valuing the door they got they get out as a laughing matter let's grab another call -- Mike you need your next week guy -- as the candidate for state auditor.

I'd Charlie -- for takeaway quote particularly twice today.

Oh yeah -- you know but I wanted to give you the chance to talk to guy like Lotus.

And I believe little -- seeing your strength -- armor and their board. -- union guy. We're correctional officers. I know what you saw what bought you Kumar will give bush the you know this week talking -- by enabling the data certainly are people ordered into that political scene and they're straight they're -- Direct yourself there. -- it cheated out of luck if she's gonna win this -- be patient and outside. It's starting at least we -- what you came in you had big union Gary you'll. Shuttle.

What will you know what first Mary and guy have to get by the primaries might get so you're conceding the primary to both Mary and end to -- you think they're both gonna win.

Jolly I know I know what I know a little bit doesn't like -- but I didn't read that in writing on the -- going to be go to Chile Ricardo -- the fact of the matter would what you think it caught up. Is that into new car that debate and Bogut caught up -- didn't -- and spoke carnac and now they're not gonna let the -- Can we change -- in America right.

Mike I hope it is true but autos deeply imagine though I opponent I'm an American poet may I yeah I know -- oh my -- and no let's go to new G endorsed his opponent got -- my friends nonetheless my opponent perhaps the qualities endorse my opponent. And I did and get the AFI you know it's funny how high you can deceive the the cynicism not. I don't know if you read the -- has -- the AF LCI failed to go vote they voted not.

Who endorsed my candidacy. Who is in the globe -- it was in the -- Worcester Telegram does that actually voted dust for Steve Grossman. Teenager treasure but they didn't vote for me however I do have some labor support I'm proud of it and I have a lot of Republican support I mean if you look at. You know people have donated to me I have had a lot of Republican support about a lot of democratic support. In again marries a great lady again I just think -- you know if you want somebody that's done the job it's managed the job. Blake photos -- to consider me but certainly Mike you're right it's gonna be a good race and I look forward to it.

Let's grab one more call before we take a break for the news that the bottom of the alcohol in the car you know excellent guy -- as the candidate for state auditor.

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it's a great and you know means Hollywood just talking about this before I went on me I have to give up my pension and to run the state auditor -- for -- right now so if I ran for reelection Musharraf which by the way I could Iran and Tom unopposed. I'd be qualified to retire at 45 years old. By running for state -- I give up -- and I have stuff brutal war is like the warrant for a scoop for us a -- unfortunately -- retire I just -- he -- are really -- so so he's giving up the chance to retire at 45 yes 45 million in -- with the light -- now with a high pensions so I mean not only when I'm not double -- but ironic for auditor -- Come -- take -- less of a pension and I have to work longer so I think it's very sincere. Why am running I see an opportunity changeup Donna for a long time in many different capacities and I look for adults we have an opportunity to do it. There were residents of Massachusetts.

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That's what's better or heat my society theme song right there exactly. Oh gosh we haven't had some good a good campaign slogan song and a long time and our state. Six and 76666. -- we're joined by -- what is the young candidate for state auditor. Dodd guy is running as a -- he's a Democrat he'll be running in the primary on the fourteenth -- The fourteenth of September this to other Democrats in the field. And he wants you to give McCall and asking some tough questions and -- you can earn your vote 617666860. If you -- text us. 6868686. City but -- one cents a share on marketing any softball questions how well that there are that he's good 617 said. -- guy at -- you stay. 25 years ago great guy all around what was best -- now.

Displays -- it's a program that The American Legion puts together referred juniors in high school that have an interest in government and public service and he's a wonderful program Arafat that went -- back this year is an alumni. And they usually Bentley College this year are you I think you're apparently gambit it's a great program economy instills veterans. American values community service with public service and really. Teaches kids at a young age about how -- to do community service -- the public service. I and then 781. Says. Would he pushed to audit the legislature. Yeah. I absolutely am I think that's a great idea I don't think it's a new idea I mean I I talked about it when I announced out when I was running other candidates have talked about it. On both the Republican and democratic side but. Listen the legislature needs auditing something's not right when they audit themselves it's just just doesn't add up if you. Run a state agency you run a police department he ratified the comment. You're not audited from what Daniel audited from without and the legislature shouldn't be any different so why it again that's an antiquated. Formal government -- eat the auditors office and if it's not beyond his offices should be IG's office. Of the comptroller's office but somebody should be able a look at the legislature and make sure the money's being spent appropriately and fairly in and make sure it's transparent.

Right here is someone from 50 -- out in your country. The auditor should audits and he into the info over he should not be weighing in on public policy. The auditors should remain impartial. To public policy yes see I disagree with that you know some of the most successful audit is in the country. Have been audit is that'd be -- to introduce policy if you find waste and mismanagement. Any you mentioned earlier Charlie the problem is nobody does anything about it. You can issue a report after report I mean we looked very are stacked I mean audit report it only showed the new g.'s office would cost all over the Miami -- sitting -- for years that nobody's done anything about you think you heard a lot about the Big Dig we -- have a federal stimulus money how that money's being spent as of being spent effectively and wisely I mean the Boston media grant a great start a couple weeks ago. Talk about how 45 million dollars EMI in federal stimulus money for Massachusetts. Never mated pair went as far away is Florida so I mean the easy thing he's just is tell imagines is the issue there reported let it you know collect dust somewhere. The hot thing in the right thing to do is find the problem and fix a problem and the legislature is not willing to fix it. Apply the pressure to fix it you know a big issue -- these unfunded state mandates they -- financially crippling. Cities and towns every city -- every school committee member I talk to.

This division and our unfunded mandates right in the lot in his office they can be more. Challenging they can challenge these unfunded state mandates and they can't do legislatively. Fought both judicially. Go to court challenge these because it just not right.

In and what they don't is that causing property taxes to go higher and higher. Some of this so many different aspects of the auditing can be involved with more than just filing a report I look at that is that's easy -- And that's what's spend on.

But we got to do more than that and we got to make sure that office is not only issue reports. But it's saving taxpayer money it's eliminating waste away eliminating mismanagement. In doing the right thing for the right reasons here's here's sort of two questions that sort of go to gather. -- in 978 they asked why you would Democrat. In in 781 they asked why does party affiliation matter far our auditor. Walt party affiliation probably shouldn't matter but Warren Massachusetts and you have to run as an on enrolled Democrat or Republican -- obviously have to go through the primary. Just like AG some people believe AG shouldn't be. Pot -- and it shouldn't matter but the constitution states you have to dry run for innocent not every Democrat has to be bleeding hot we'll -- wing Democrat I mean. You know I've been described as an -- can type the Democrats somebody's fiscally conservative by. I supported. Getting rid of bilingual education and have an English Immersion 1000 state senator I took a lot of heat far it. I support the gun -- still are -- Iran's we have big US senate race in our state last January yes Scott Brown you served with in the senate I do believe. Against Martha Coakley the attorney general who can vote for I voted for Coakley I go to -- well as -- a public safety our work closely with had a relation I never met Scott Brown I didn't serve with them in the alleged holes I was gone when he -- man okay. And I'm you know I was originally I wasn't with. Coakley original house a couple one all and then I want to Coakley. But believe me it's a good race and what we'll see what happens I mean it you know I I still think the jury's out on on the whole Scott Brown issue. We'll see how how he does I mean let's see if he does somebody in the democratic primary for president and a few years ago it was pretty big here in Massachusetts you have bronco bomber against Hillary Clinton who you -- out and say I -- get involved in the race and -- lets anyone you know I must ask you not not not I just I didn't get involved those focusing on those reforms we talked about in and laying the groundwork for hopefully statewide run myself. 6172666862. Number let's talk to Phyllis in Woburn Phyllis you're on with guy. Guy -- this who's the candidate for state auditor.

Okay I'm calling out to correct the problem is Gerald from Roxbury yes I -- I'm afraid if they got off all. -- past few people thought -- maybe five -- And they are people all the bases for five years. An awful his entire office give up so many Casey here if they so that it would be forking.

You know what though I you know what's Phyllis I'm in the last guy about this just the idea are giving out -- is when you're relaying -- I think really turn people off than especially. Theres a lot of people out there who'd be happy to have a job. You know the unemployment rate in the states -- like what nine and a half percent. There's a lot of people out of work that really -- John I have to be. Yeah be given out rate -- look I'm not knocking should do new chip that's sort of the old way of doing things you -- you -- way out the door you give everybody arrays. It helps boost their pension the total thank you the only thing is he's not doing with his money he student with the taxpayers' money good guy -- on get a few.

I mean you know the thing tomorrow furloughs Phyllis is a lot of agencies have those furloughs on the audit is not the only offices had to go through furloughs we laid off over twenty people. Right around Christmas time you know that was the county sheriff's office so. I think that the big issue is everybody's had a tighten their belts everybody's loss budgetary funding. The GLs. And the court systems is just so many places. That I I just think it's sent out the wrong message it in and click to vote is right now it will -- police and firefighters and and teaches and I just -- those types -- raises on the back door especially when you leaving. Is is suspect epic at least.

Let's go to you lied Jack in the car you rom with sky glowed as the candidate for state auditor hey Jack.

Yes -- issue. What we're seeing it out my question is it -- it won't just all I I don't see how he can be it Democrat -- you can -- get her. They are. Maybe it would Coakley but thought the second part of my question would be like development the bloated. What present day Democrat -- most most what do you look great -- posted.

present day did not many of them. I thought hey. Big guy you just like big. Not many of a mummy and you know we mentioned there early. I thought I because. It's easy just it is gonna take -- side and I can change more from what I in the party then again from all the party I mean it their assets at lunch bucket working class Democrats that don't always agree on their. Well how how Republicans get elected in the state house Democrats don't vote them.

Question why such as -- or while Steve -- Huge. Sport but that's not bad debt but dubs. Click for the sake -- later.

Steve -- commodity voted against the health care bill he voted to lower taxes he's he's been endorsed by gun owner is you know he asked for one. They're -- there on the war very conservative in the state senate. Steve -- Greenpeace a mile west is a conservative conservative Democrat voted for every tax cut I mean I I just think you got up. -- the issue and not the -- it is good ideas and I must.

Just keep the party I mean that's that's the easiest to use seventy here.

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It's it's easy to implement change I mean how many you don't get elected and honor roll unarmed you know CN NK we'll we'll see -- and -- can get elected is an honor roll but in the.

And each have a change if you're part of that the democratic brought the Democrat brought process.

Well the same reason they can implement change -- Republicans EE get a good right -- people that I was crazy when I wanted to support English -- they said it would never have happened in Massachusetts. We tried doing it legislatively we couldn't do it so we got the signatures to put it on the ballot. In the public voted you would be so many extra questions with Ron Johnson California Brian we got it on the ballot so the is another example. Of how you can challenge the Democratic Party and in went.

So interesting I'll -- Fox News is reporting live here by the way that. In silver springs Maryland a male carrying explosives. Is inside the Discovery Channel building Chris if you got anything on the wire about that you wanna pull it up. Very serious situation in and they're trying to evacuate the building. And every silver springs is outside of Washington it's. You know high rises office buildings giant malls. It's it's. You're not good it's very scary situation and there. Megyn Kelly they're all going life here and it looks like somehow lob. All of a north is on the site reporting I don't know if he's in the building. Will get an update from you won all this in fact let's take a quick break Chris and dobbs. Will come back with take the rest your questions for guy glowed a symbol and update on the situation. Swat team on the scene of the hostage situation in silver springs Maryland will bring you right up to date on that. Scary isn't it is yeah it's really scary 6170. So the Discovery Channel building in silver spring Maryland. This from the Washington Post the men -- with what appears to be an explosive device on him has taken at least one hostage at the discovery building in downtown silver springs. Colonel -- Fritz said they received a call about 1 PM -- shots fired in the lobby. Police initially said the building was being evacuated and employees that they were told via email to stay at their desks. But I think I try to get out of there. Officers have not filed their weapons. Discovery employees that they were told via email stay at their -- some have said on their Twitter constant shots have been fired. But police have not confirmed that so that's where we aren't. Strangely enough we have Fox News on here it looks like Ollie north happens to be right on the street -- lieutenant colonel -- north. It is not filling making Kelly in the fox people in on what's going on. But we're back with sky glowed as we've got one more call will squeeze in before guy -- to go on DNA in Jamaica -- your next -- Michael Lotus.

Good -- that they can add an independent voter I'm inclined just to choose your. Probably consider you for sheriff -- a the Republican uncharted democratic -- but normally pull Republican ballot as an independent. What can you tell me this is someone who is an independent between two Republican. A vote on your candidacy and and why I should be considering you brought it.

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