Illegals getting to walk instead of deportation

The Obama administration. Through ice the immigration. Part of the Department of Homeland Security they're supposed to be seeing in enforcing open is enforcing our immigration laws. Have come up with a new way. To allow illegal immigrants to stay in the country. It's basically a backdoor. Amnesty program. Where when these these illegal immigrants who have been arrested. Are being brought into court. Ice is having the cases against them dismissed. And letting them go free it's happened recently in Houston Texas. -- just read you some quick info about a nimble go to our -- Jessica Vaughan. These are people who have already been arrested charged in in deportation proceedings. Simply being let go because the backlog is too long. It's like the phenomenon of lying flushing it border crossings with the wind of foreigners trying to enter the country gets too long. Inspectors are instructed suggests what every one the end. And start checking again later so not to interfere would border commerce. And the story also quotes lawyers before the illegal immigrants who were skating. We were calling each other saying can you believe this it -- neck -- used an immigration attorney who had two cases dismissed. And another one of the lawyers that he went into immigration court. On Monday and was given a court date in October 2011. For one client. But he said the government attorney requested. The dismissal of that case in those of two more of his clients. In the polices were dispatched by the judge. The court was terminating all the cases that came up Gonzales said. So. I can't imagine that they're doing this but I guess it comes on the orders of the head device John Morton. And we had asked Jessica -- from the senators immigration studies to join us today. Thanks coming on the Charlie Manning showed just got.

Thank you Charlie and -- see here.

Now. How is this been going on for a long time on letting these. A lady illegal immigrants who have been charged -- court they should be ordered deported just letting them walk away is this something new.

It is definitely something you and he conceived and the and lawyers the illegal immigrants are shocked. -- and it it is something new it is something problematic and it's. Yet another. Tactic that the Obama administration is using. Because it knows that it can't get any other would be that these illegal aliens -- congress wants nothing to do -- Comprehensive immigration reform or amnesty. They're trying to find things that they can -- is using their executive authority is pretty much debate congress and and let people stay anyway even though they've been charged yet you don't show up for the record it which is rare in another self.

I know did they are in court the all they do -- slam the gavel down and say you're deported to deal head out and go back to where they came from. And instead they're letting them all get away.

That's right they're letting them walk out and the government is saying you know nevermind. Not interested in -- why this case.

So what the government is doing now under President Obama -- through ice is saying. Don't listen to don't worry about our laws don't pay any attention to our laws. If your here illegally. In you even get picked up in you get brought in in your in court. We're gonna let you walk.

It and I have to -- the chances of them getting even picked up the at this point are very slim because. Last week. I was sent a copy of -- draft policies that I was. Planning on issuing that pretty much says that they will not respond. Choose any. Call that they get from state and local law enforcement on traffic stop. They're basically saying no don't call us we'll call you. And -- saying you know essentially they're not gonna respond and not gonna pick up people look found. On the highways by state troopers that you know for example in Rhode Island state trooper finds an illegal aliens it's just not gonna bother with those cases.

So they are not even gonna help the local authorities anymore. In being able to control illegal immigration.

That's the -- they aren't focused -- tunnel vision on. Illegal aliens who are already in jail. Pretty much what they wanna do.

And how many though not.

I would get released a lot because you know according to their own specific they're only actually been you know moving a small number about a third -- that they're finding in the jail nationwide.

So but we're talking to Jessica -- for the Center for Immigration Studies there's a new backdoor in this deep program going on. Lot of good reporting about it especially from the Houston Chronicle where courts in Texas they have a bigger. A very serious problem with the illegal immigration. And the illegal immigrants who have been arrested. Who had been brought into court in our on the path to -- deported. -- now having their cases dismissed in their being allowed to walk out of the court. In that Jessica's telling us that even in the cases of of the illegal immigrants who commit draw lines.

Not all of them are being deported is that right.

That's right and that's how we have these situations like the fellow in Virginia who was. I picked up a number of times for drunk driving why he was still out and driving around drunk it's because. I you know is released him on his own recognizance but come back another day for your hearing. Now if if he ever did show up for his hearing they probably would. Process someone like him. But the point is then hit the chances of him actually coming -- hearing a pretty slim. -- and now you know these individuals. Who wish -- up but they're here and they don't even have still apply for asylum as indeed I think he's dead they're just gonna advocate that.

So. It is incredible if you wanna talk about. If you wanna talk to Jessica -- you can give us a call 6172666066172666860. Or if you -- text this a question for just got to send it to me at 68680. In just got this is what happens. When the message goes out that. Once you get to the United States don't worry about the law you're gonna be okay. This is the saddest story and I think this shows the moral bankruptcy. Of these policies by ice in the Obama administration. Let me just get into this I don't know if people Sar today. Mexican military finds 72 bodies --

Border. Gunmen from the drug cartel appeared to have mass occurred seven need to migrants from central and South America. Who were on their way to the US. A grisly event that marks the single biggest killing in Mexico's war and organized crime. Mexican Marines discovered 72 bodies 58 then fourteen women on Tuesday. After the lone survivor of the massacre a wounded migrants from Ecuador. Stumbled into -- checkpoint the previous day and told to being shot on Monday at a nearby ranch. When the Marines went to. Investigate they met with a hail of gunfire from the cartel gunmen they had a shoot out with the hotel gunman. The incident highlights the extent to which the Mexican drug -- Which used to focus exclusively. On ferry narcotics such as cocaine into the US. Had diversified into other lucrative criminal activities. Stitches human smuggling and extortion. At the going rate of 5000. To 7000. Charged by the smugglers to cross the US border. The 72 people represented about 500000. Dollars to the drug gang half a million dollars. Mexico City based security consultants that the -- may have simply killed the migrants. After they refused to give them more money than they had already given them. A study by Mexico's national human rights commission published last year found that. 9758. Migrants from central and South America. Had been kidnapped by presumed drug gains between 2008 in September 2008 in February 2009. So think -- what's at five months. The commission found that many cases. Government officials and police work with the criminal gains to carry out the abductions. The commission said that the number of migrant kidnappings could be as high as 181000. A year. It estimated that the average ransom 2500. Dollars. Making the business worth fifty million dollars a year. So bye bye. Letting out the word. -- illegal immigrants. That if you can get across the border. We're not gonna you're gonna we're not gonna deport you your here you're in the United States you're all set even if you get arrested will let you walk out of court. Then -- bomber administration is sending out that message in -- F seven. Five to 7000. Dollars to be smuggled here. And now we're slaughtered by the Mexican drug and we're making the Mexican drug gangs rich. By not securing our borders.

by sending mixed messages to people who get taken advantage. Or -- way. Think you're absolutely right to the set about that way to interpret. That story this quiet traffic.

It's crazy let's grab a call for I'd just -- from the Center for Immigration Studies. He -- in the car you first today would just scoop on how you do --

You -- right. You know I think she. And chill out more. -- you know what Iraq -- items. It in the country who are legal immigrant and we're waiting in line. I think Iraq about to complain about illegal immigration connections it be labeled re edit edit aren't. Yeah look at I am I have a bubbly woman up at all and number now and she got a green card and she'd been waiting for your -- get Tibetans and her husband -- last year I think it's gonna get an -- that she's waiting Belmont and doing all the right thing. -- like people like that eight and up and say. Don't cut line and we're here we're working hard we're doing all right -- and it album -- like back. Have done the right things really stand up and make noise it I think Iraq we'll continue to meet the grade I. Of people on the up and eighty that that that.

Amy great point thanks of the call -- breaking up a little bit there but we sure get that point. I totally -- just scale as we whenever we talk about illegal immigration on the show. The people that call that seemed to be the most upset about it are the folks who we've done everything right. Are waiting in line have spouses still back in the home countries because they go to the one observe our laws and respect our laws. And Amy talked about the woman who helps her in her house that hazard green car and is waiting. In yet the message being sent by the Obama administration. Just says Europe sap your sap that you do you're doing at the right way.

That's absolutely right and I think it's an awful shame that it it take so long. For people who are giving it the right way to have their I applications processed and and part of the reason is because that agency USB IS is so overwhelmed. With applications that are frivolous. Or. Result. Illegal immigration and or you know because the you know the way. Think it prioritized. There I have a friend -- they've been trying to get a fiancee visa her fiance and is -- giving have a terrible time as it takes forever no reason that should take six months. To adjudicate -- applications like that. You know -- a lot of it has to do with the fact they're just overwhelmed with trying to manage. All the demands on.

Do you have any number of people any idea of the number of people who are. In the system right now trying to do with the right ways I think you've told me before that when you come. It Mitt we know we admit about. I'm a million immigrants a year into our countries that about right this is.

about a million green cards issued each year -- apple waiting list of people who have already established that there are eligible. In one of the categories. Of about five million people. We're waiting to come and then we're doing it the right way.

So about five million weighing about a million getting in. And then were allowing the people who break our laws who flout -- laws who are enriching. The Mexican drug gangs the most vicious gains in the world by paying them to be excluded across the border. And probably having to pay the more than you know what these new story show. And they're the ones getting sucked in here and and just put through these terrible trials it's awful isn't it.

Is -- and and part of the problem here is that. On this administration and I have to say the administration before it also. I'm really have not devoted enough attention on Tuesday alien smuggling issue and the fact that this is really -- formal organized crime. And with that you know involve violence extortion and so much other illegal and dangerous activity. It's it has not been a priority for. I T try to take out some of -- smuggling organizations and dismantle them. Instead. There focus on and you know southbound weapon which is also important that. And pretty much everything but aliens smuggling in terms of organized crime that -- you know what -- doing a lot out you know. Busting -- the people who counterfeit dvds and -- is that a good job on gang suppression. But not on the smuggling per day. I'm -- they're willing to address human trafficking. Which is that. Also a horrible problem but a little bit different from -- from alien smuggling which is you know people willingly step forward in. That I would try to come -- legally and and when we're not holding employers accountable. For hiring seven trying to cut off the job that. It's just as you said it is like get an invitation for people come here and put themselves in the position where they're gonna be at risk. So that there is more that can be done in terms of immigration law enforcement that would help suggests that the.

Including stealing our borders. Being serious about our borders which they don't wanna be.

I call it you can't just walk across anymore you have to you know if you tried to cross the border. -- smuggling organizations along the way they can excuse me the cartels. Actually control. All the places where you -- if you went down and tried to walk across. You'd be abducted and they would try to make you pay. Or using their services.

That's amazing. Let's go to Walter on the cape Walter you're next with Jessica -- from the Center for Immigration Studies.

Oh Charlie great topic great shelves -- got a great they are radio or so about 200 C a thanks. It's only a topic near and dear to my heart as a voter as a citizen. Big -- immigration is the single most important topic to this country. On starting with -- open stream the financial strain -- socio economic strange. On the prison system the education and hospitals you've covered all those things for the past. Not to mention the security threat you don't have to look any further than 9/11. I'm I've also heard of are certain speculations about al-Qaeda in South America. That one of our sort of hands off our approaches. Regarding if you -- over it and is that once the backlash is that we better afraid -- is if we came down you have beyond down. That you know perhaps al-Qaeda. Would use the Mexican border as a gateway. -- to America at Q2 Jewish artifacts and things like that all but outside of that. I know that I'm a big advocate of -- that three tiered fence that everybody knows nobody wants to talk about. Some people seem to implicate the fences don't work you don't have to look any further -- North Korea the Berlin Wall -- the Great Wall of China. To say that 83 tiered -- along with predator drones and national security. I know that we need offense dot com it's been a big advocate the best. Where else can we go other you know other than we need offense dot com. It's -- Perry was a real advocate against this weird can we go to really start talking on coach and making noise.

That's what we have to do it if we. I I don't wanna tanks and call -- I'd I'd want -- to view this is this is an issue that. Is gonna I I I don't leads the most important I think the economy's most important but it definitely entries into the economy because it's taking jobs away from. Regular working folks. But overall it's national security. In -- respect for our laws and respect for our nation and what it's the ins for. In studio bomber administration in the -- John Morton from ice. Just to buy -- Say you know what all the illegal immigrants that you catch. We're gonna let him walk if they haven't committed a serious crime. And by the way. Don't call me anymore if if you if you're catching illegal immigrants and and they they are here illegally we we don't care we're not gonna pick them up anymore it just shows you how. The ice doesn't respect our laws Jennifer Jessica.

Yeah it is true and it it again it all boils down to the fact that there. Myth that. Congress won't go along and passes this big embassy though they have to find ways to lose themselves in defiance of congress -- in defiance of the well the American people.

Let's grab another call Kathy from -- year next week just -- for the senate for a from the Center for Immigration Studies.

I check alien Jessica how are you today all right just. Okay. -- and hugged them we gonna motorcycle quite a bit and we travel around and I noticed a lot of a lot of immigrants the pipe in packets steroid thing convenience stores. And so I started stopping it. Could stop the practice some other store owners and they'd say. There's a lot of lot of immigrants come and then I'll make an office but this story as it and one that not that they help. And I bet -- any Miami that Obama has this crap out because like tactical one. Convenience store oh my that's. And I am glad I'm not I'm not positive it's illegal but I think he is the -- that they paid over a million dollars of the stole up. A convenience store and the cams show. -- you the government is funding these thing illegal immigrants to get these business first -- and they know. You know they're very hike in the price is so bad. The money that they make an obvious illegal.

Indian. Yeah -- No they're from Pakistan yeah well that's he himself see up there Don yeah isn't.

That I do want it to with a turban around their head that they don't historic.

Dry it decks of the call Kathy my guess is they are here legally wouldn't you say just I mean if they're able to buy stores yet.

It would be very tough to manage to purchase the door without legal status here but I. Yeah that's. I think that is normal for our new immigrants to try to going to patent the themselves when they get here you know that's kind of part of you know the American experience and they work hard and you know but that's the way they get -- foot in the door and support their family so. It can be a problem if they're actually hiring people who are here legally yes but generally you know it. I think we should welcome.

That's the shore. Here's a call from five though wait that we had text US I do not understand the logic behind ice. Or -- bomber administration. Blaming criminals walk out of court. Is there any logic.

I don't think there's any -- logic that a normal American could find in that I mean they have their twisted logic. But I know a it's it's I I can't imagine this happening with any other form of law. -- let that happen in drug court.

That's true you know in need any single and try I've been trying to think it's of a time when. You know they just let people walk out without even a slap on the wrist that have broken the law and when they walked out the door at this still breaking the law right. That's the whole thing it's not like you know somebody that gets caught. With a small amount upon a couple of joints and the judge has all right -- wanna see -- again and you stay away from pot and everything. At least the guy doesn't have pot in his pocket I don't think when he walks out the door the court -- breaking the law.

I would hope not but noted that but the article didn't say that. They're letting people go without you know they're letting the one that they're letting go had no criminal history. If they don't have a serious kind.

Rightists theory that's what that that's what this good reporter wrote here is -- But culling the immigration court system documents that non criminal started in earnest in Houston and is stunned local immigration attorneys. And they would it said that the Department of Homeland Security -- attorneys are conducting reviews on a case by case basis. However they are following general guidelines that allow for the dismissal of cases for dependents who have been the country for two or more years. And have no. Felony convictions. So if it's just a misdemeanor and no big deal Jessica. In some instances defend this then this defendants can have one misdemeanor conviction. But they can not involved a DWY. Family violence or sexual crime. And then -- Korean Europe boss in the senate from new immigration studies rights. Well they're not letting convicted sex criminals loose that's nice -- Off it's incredible. Welcome back to the telling Manning show on WRKO. We're joined by Jessica -- from the center for immigration studies and we're talking about two things. One. This new backdoor amnesty policy of DO bomber administration and where illegal immigrants who arrested. Charged brought into court for deportation. Are having their case is dismissed and they're allowed to walk out of the courtroom. It's an incredible story. Here's one of the turn east to the illegal immigrants. And it's -- the Korean writes in the immigration lawyers are as pleased as punch which should be clue as to how damaging this initiative this. Guns all leaves who's one of the lawyers for the illegal immigrants that he went into immigration court. On Monday and was given a court date of October 201141. Client. But he said the government's attorney requested this missile so that's the attorney for ice and Homeland Security. Requested the dismissal of that case than those of two more of this clients. In the cases were dispatched by the judge. The court was quote terminating all the cases that came up Gonzalez said it was absolutely fantastic. We were calling each other that's all the immigration lawyer is saying can you believe this that John -- meant. Another used in immigration attorney who had two cases dismissed.

You know what's gonna happen in immigration lawyers realize they're not as needed anymore. All of these.

Just let him walk they don't even need to high on the illegal immigrants don't even need to hot bowl of course I think they probably get paid by the government for represent you legal immigrants don't day. Now. No they don't.

That you're not if you're charged. -- You know just regular immigration violations. No maybe I don't know about the criminal thought that it might be right. But. And some people might have criminal -- chided. I don't think they'll.

So as a backdrop to that story there is the sad sad story of 72. You immigrants from central and South America who were trying to make their way up here to the border. Were viciously murdered and massacred I guess is the right word. By a drug gain. And the feeling of the authorities in Mexico is that the drug gain. Was charging the 72 people 5000 to 7000. That he needs to be smuggled across the US border. And that would represent about a half a million dollars to the drug -- so instead of bothering to bring them across the board of the just slotted the ball. In his justice said. The drug -- so control the border now that if you're just written regular illegal immigrant. Chances are you'll never get across without being grabbed by the drug gang -- made to pay them. So we -- across because they control the roots. It's really really a sad story -- that's what having open borders does Don on the Mexican border 72 people massacre. Because we won't secure our border and be serious about illegal immigration. Anyway let's get back to calls which we're joined by just c'mon at the Center for Immigration Studies marking Cambridge you're next with Jessica.

Thank Sally and I just -- terrorists based to a listen if you like you make a lot of sense. I then Jessica what I wanted to say. CI PO Obama is that the press that panic button. About Israel elections so I think that's one of the key reasons -- back to everything. And that that's.

An interesting way of looking at that -- why he's basically. Well it's -- you. A lot of C. Ethnic advocacy groups are getting very very frustrated. With the administration. They are probably looking forward the bones that they can load than it is to get them to quiet down.

but Jessica. How can -- fix it so at least carry this can vote if they -- illegal. Somehow they still get them all chizik.

Well. They. They don't think about until -- citizen than most places although we're defending a Portland Maine I think just passed. A measure to allow legal immigrants non citizens to vote in local elections up there. So. That that is -- another. Signed. You know politicians who -- really interested in pandering to these groups out of -- about right voting rights.

In that way back country Jessica if -- can't -- there again we're in big trouble. I see it it's bad.

It really is Marcum takes a call in fact we got a job. We got a text from let's see where if I can find it well here it is 71 in in -- Every day DO bomber administration reminds the voters why elections matter. That's a pretty good taxed let's go to our raid in Revere -- you're next with Jessica -- of the Center for Immigration Studies.

Just a couple things are number one our country has been hijacked this sort of operation I don't know what can be done -- voted by. Another shoe on immigration I was so the other day. Jessica said this they say it's who know how the number of people that are being shipped here. -- Hugged her life in orbit baby art art paper there is somewhat different moms. --

Is it is true that -- not account for I think you're talking about the temporary protected status for Haitians and people had temporary status for many many years because disasters in their homeland got that. That's you know approaching half a million people now. The country. Who I've given this it's basically an amnesty. But never taken away it's called temporary but it. You know there's nothing more permanent and -- and Soledad temporary status here.

And I think that it should be exposed because I think that's and that's what brought them to guard goes. How many of film. You know our our radicals of what several cool.

But and the other thing to remember Q is that. About thirty to 40% of the legal immigration. Occurs with people coming through the legal ports of entry. -- have been given these or other documents and simply over today and and Obama got the -- product secretary of Homeland Security announced yesterday. That -- bombing and -- administration is not going to pursue the congressional requirement. That we implement a biometric exit system to make people check out when they leave. That they are are gonna rely on something that is not as good on just on the name. People on the airline. You know yet again showing that -- is just not interested in doing good immigration or.

And of course that's how -- got here she came here on a regular fees up. And then she overstayed her visa net and then she was awarded deported twice. -- appealed both times and -- finally was given amnesty so it's just a shame.

And the 1981. People have been saying we have got to keep track of people who you know whether or not people leave when we allow them and then and they just said now what happens.

Amazing let's go to while -- in Vermont you next with Jessica -- for the Center for Immigration Studies on the Charlie Manning -- paid Linda.

Yes well I think it's taking my call. I understand why you can't -- individual but there are millions of them but what about big corporations that hire them. There's a pharmacy and I probably won't get. --

Yet don't own name.

well known and I live across the street but they bought the land and a developing. There are hobbies. I was saying no less so it keep people in our machinery. Quarrel over the -- radio animation you are doing underwriting new machinery and I that's coming to a lot of and they saw -- it doesn't matter what you say we get sick they connect basic however just get -- Well my college pharmacy then headquarters accelerated not responsible. -- contract should they -- responsible but it is special about patient load -- a contract. That's and night on the town the local county have made them independently got an area that is now they had no jobs it's all taken by the illegal. They're losing it big contracts. And everything in the door and separate sections -- nothing like like recognizing out of Spanish. They have all of thought that product from Eric English and Spanish. They had -- I mean this is catering giving people like it before I didn't speak the language. And the collaboration there I held accountable. You're making millions off of Atlanta.

That's actually true thanks of the call Linda you know I was thinking just -- you always heard the stories about you know past. Generations of immigrants who would come here illegally or legally illegally hopefully legally and they'd learned English by watching television. Or listening to the radio. And now of course. If you come especially if you're -- native language is Spanish. You can watch a lot of -- the -- without having to worry -- as I did my cable here in Boston has five different Spanish all Spanish stations. So if you're a Spanish speaker bureau site you can just get cable and watch you know the news and sports and not local programming in -- sat.

Right there's there's no need or pressure or you know any kind of incentive to try to learn English. It ended up write it -- after their newspaper radio shows.

It's amazing let's grab a call from Bob in no well your -- with Jessica -- for the Center for Immigration Studies.

Yeah actually it's just that I would bring a subject that nobody is ever mentioned and that's the naturalization rates. Legal resident. The latest figures like I'm from ten years ago was only forty point 3%. Natural. You have those figures.

I don't have the latest figures right in front of me but I don't think it has changed a whole lot since that time. It is surprising. We've seen it -- low rate of naturalization. And I have to say also that it does very. Eight nationality. In other words there's certain people from certain countries are much more likely to become US citizens then. Certain other countries. Specifically. I'm of people from the Philippines and Korea. I have very high natural position. While people from the Latin American countries have lower. And part of that I think -- this phenomenon. You know no incentive to assimilate. Is that you know they can sort of moved here live in kind of modern days Spanish language -- in the country. Now in that sometimes perpetuated by the school system as well. So that I think that the connection people feel. To America weekends when we don't have a strong civil at this americanization process in place.

If that's that's that's why it's crazy crazy when they keep using the phrase. Pathway to citizenship. Because really that separated the ship. May be available or is exercised. Only -- 40%. So. Is there there is plenty of at least decision ship right now on in the virtual oh lead.

I'm getting a green card birds and having admitted it legally.

And we do about a million a year. So that's all you need to know good point Bob thanks of the call let's go to bill in Quincy you're next with Jessica -- on the Charlie Manning south.

Well thank you sick and I call a good thing. I was witnessing court who have some illegal aliens. And but I have a question -- Jessica sure I was fired and replaced. By two people. It could barely speak enough English. If you could tell it have been in the country through -- Now what does it take. There's some went. Get a CDL license. Is somebody with a -- It'd.

Well I'm very excited that happens you. I don't know the exact requirements first CDL. In particular but do. Should be able to get a license if you have a green cards. Massachusetts does not issue licenses to illegal. You know -- district site actually in terms of who can you know what you have to prove to get a driver's let's hear. But -- I don't know about the -- also. I delve that is something would happen if that doesn't just take. Usually this past it is and of course but it still being able to.

They at least two people order -- across them for me because I was at the top of lists and paid vacations everything.

Oh yeah. That's how I feel so bad bill you've been able to find something else.

No no -- just -- go to court into Brockton. And Gloria. Illegal alien was arrested. For driving without a license. Frederik that would -- Romney not license plate and and selling marijuana. And it was led off with a year's probation. And -- if you violate it. The probation who may be. -- here.

You may be deported.

He's black and just like the primary up to it that it said state representative.

Yeah who told the -- state police take I'm just gonna go back to Mexico nothing you do to me right. So well thanks a lot bill for the call hope you find something soon you take care he just the -- the.