Howie with Jeff Perry

8774694322. That's the toll free number of the Howie -- show. Last week there were some odd stories in the papers in. In the tenth congressional district the patriot ledger in Quincy and the Cape Cod Times. That up out. Jeff Perry the state reps from CN which he's a Republican and he's running as the in the Republican primary to succeed retiring. US congressman build -- hot as the congressman from the tenth district which includes the cape. The islands in the South Shore and in this this story. Is about a agree that that he got from a what the patriot ledger calls a reputed. Diploma -- Columbia state university from reading now from patriot ledger federal authorities have said the university was no more than a putt diploma mill place -- the post office box instead of a campus and no faculty to speak up. In 2003 its founder once I highly paid stage shipments hypnotist was accused by the FBI of defrauding students of at least a million dollars. Well churning out the -- degrees by mail and as little as a month and a Jeff Perry had one of these and put her on his campaign website when he first ran for state -- back in 2002. Jeff thanks for being on with us here on our car show.

But I am down man job and how much better aid banquet for the deputy sheriff I apologize for the background noise I can hear you adults. Good and saw a lot of my -- bookmark. -- didn't look at the record before it started analyst -- request that they got. No I haven't thought you'd be very prepared for -- solid state that -- degree. Well very solid and they law degree from notebook cool lombok and -- like double degree adult and part time night and my own way. He drive into the schools sitting through the -- is going through all these. Bettering myself beat the they recognize. You know no one in my family had ever gone -- call -- the first one I didn't go right out of I bullet I recognized who meditation on the big part of that. And dumb you know so I just wanna get that on the record that I have -- He agreed that our current in the old fashioned way going to school and my own way and they got me they got me in the 1990s I would. I had an associate at the time from their book community college and -- once the credits all over the plate you know from -- there experience from that spot that benefit in. -- under the law student in the beginning you know you'll.

We saw -- at the time.

No doubt that the -- ninety amen I'm wondering if Florida now -- my own business. And -- I have an associate degree from Bristol community followed -- at the time of the Columbia state. And I'm looking around our place that I -- but I -- all my you know my associate degree multi miscellaneous other that I had. Home and apply -- liked -- very I looked around iPhone that albeit state and they they that they were credited. They've catalog look legit everything's been to check out. It's all done in my transcripts by a then in my life experience credits from owning appears that the being rethought the thing that in the military and actually spent media. A trip there this I had ninety transferable credits and I needed to do the go to classes they sent me a book. They that you need to write the papers to get -- collapses and they send me my grade in a bet me a diploma. And well I I've got to look look legit I thought it will accredited and you know like hundreds not hundreds of the vote.

How are gonna take it took them what did take a month.

O'clock -- that Mike Garrett but. Several want the don't know I don't think they're getting you know up absolutely period from our current they had but I'm getting an accredited agreed it again. All the different -- institution that all the credit that I had and put them all together in a -- way for me of the small businessman dependent finish off what doubt that the great. And I Ottawa -- yet so I. Not there -- there are my resume -- at the time I think the government through I had completed my have a degree it very solid in both you all peanut -- up toward my other. They are -- and will -- a credit and my other accomplishment. And does not immediate but somebody you know ability to -- and say that they're both the look -- Thank -- much. Thank you I've -- up there would be up. The other -- you know I don't -- the bullet -- they -- they would never had a predator racial eloped but -- looked at a thought I looked at a researcher at the -- that of the -- that I wanna be associated with a they're investigating it. And I already had enough about the secret like that itself and I never used it. I'll -- you know I put it down during the campaign. And I never used it rather read than the people that they would vote for me earlier and every year they're they're they're great for Conger. In that never bent pipe -- thought it was on the road there was -- they never use it on a upper low education all our political.

What Jeff why I mean why did you what did you go if you thought to had a real bachelor's degree why did you than go to Curry College to get you're -- actually.

I didn't happen but didn't have the cover college bachelor's degree. At the time they attempt.

Yeah I'm just saying -- fewer but were saying is if you thought the Columbia degree was real why did you then go to Curry College to war to get together the other bachelor's degree.

Because those went so well when we came back from Florida or -- back the map to the one -- well I don't wanna do what the planned to go to law school. And I needed a accredited university so I got Mike Curry College degree in 2000 and built. --

I thought you said you -- Columbia stay was accredited.

I did until they thought we got a lot of.

So you weren't originally planning to go to Curry College as you thought you had a bachelor's degree already.

A well Cali I would put it.

Did you so you're you're originally were planning to go to Curry College because you thought you had a bachelor's degree for much Columbia state. I want when he could call out I'm just saying so so when you came back to Massachusetts from Florida you forget have a bachelor's degree correct.

I -- and a bachelor's degree from Columbia based. And then I went to cut -- get a second absolute beginner but a -- my web site.

Okay but but why did you meet why did you feel like you needed a second bachelor's degree that's what I'm asking.

Well I've been going to let go oh I that I want to continue my education and I wanted to complete that might be the great.

So so you never arise so you never use this you were you when the reserves are in the National Guard when you were around when you got this great this this.

I'd be 97 dollar I would not -- it's been like I am I think I've finished my regard I mean end. 1993 if I remember and then I did another year the National Guard in 2001 and 2000 until what another degree what the mute for the -- and some of Arab Bank that. A lot of all of the been pushing the degree -- the -- they'll weapon used by out of an educational reimbursement for.

For Larry yeah so so and also my question is so you never you never made any money off of having this this quote unquote --

I thought I -- funny how I I can't permit I thought look what just I. But the bad but I think I'd get suckered you know I I thought I -- put all my life experience together Eric but I don't want all like credit than the one player like I was going to be able to get a little bit more. Education summit bulk state study course -- MI at stake -- a lot of other by the people. And what what I did was I for the bound up by let's spend and I'm not allowed directory that people -- Openly for congress while they're talking about. Well I've been doing for the last eight years that they were up you know in they -- them out yourself a lot that you're talking about fighting against the legal immigration. Tiger but against bloated budget both against actor kind of stand up to the insiders stop on big you know eat. Yeah and I thought well you know what I do and they can go I don't need BitTorrent and now I know. Went for congress and bring those same values then though they may issued the congress in part by equity or I think people wanna talk about whether the you know bump -- from the media are or some public welfare all they wanna talk about it what I did in the 1980 -- the idea. I'm conservative candidate -- that's -- somebody -- the pro life candidate -- the one with the endorsement of senator brown Mitt Romney you've -- are actively. It's in their -- that the folks we about the mother endorsements -- probably aren't your email and now more than a week. And so they're trying to get me up court they're trying to get me out I'm not sit by dog back if you're the Italy into my -- you got me and that's okay I'm not blaming anybody out by their market I made a mistake. Trusting that this was a legitimate institution and an appropriate I don't dot org and I are gonna pop and I haven't here they --

I'm mumbling idiot -- story in the Cape Cod Times from up Friday. The only people whose judgment I value one on who should be the next Republican nominee of the voters and I have no interest in commenting on mr. Malone's gutter style politics or you blaming him for this story Joe Malone your opponent.

I'm not blaming anybody for the story and I'm not blaming anybody could betting that going on I put myself -- my wife and I thought bill being edited for congress we knew that they'd. Look in green in print in the matter would anything legitimate or not Bob Hope they would bet I'm not blaming anybody. Anything any mistake -- I -- the alphabet does then whatever people want to characterize it and put it by Columbia state university. But I'm saying if they're Republican primary. We shouldn't be throwing mud at each other I'm not gonna do that and so when it elevates what Republican -- they're all boy. Become on the radio or -- their -- work in a newspaper article but I doubt they're not they're all email. From their own campaign and that bad things about another Republican -- I think a break. Reagan's eleventh commandment I'm not blaming them for one thing as far as I'm not saying it's their fault that I decided to get this. On the degree from Columbia state university -- thing that. If we wanna win that certainly unique opportunity the way -- right that sentiment is right and so I'm not gonna get into that mark bowling for all picked the pocket while. What am I other Republican opponent them in on the state that they had made or not -- issues related to that I'm not gonna do that I'm not gonna give ammunition. The the Democrats Logan -- all words. You are right for marshaled against whoever the winner and that would -- 2000 and they're. Where now we have our primary for governor we saw how the answer that was then how. What the result -- ended up with for years that Bob Baffert and I'm not thought that happened on my -- so that's all that's what and why would my opponent not up but I'm gonna -- that -- process. Money for younger people have the right to know what I've done it without people up the right to know what judgment of people have the right the no albeit cute but what I've let this be happening at what. No the Republican voted the front between -- not.

Now I got your I did what Astra one of required before -- phones before I just one issue one of the things I've heard about. Scott Flanagan noticed the guy who worked for -- he was an officer at the in the where police department you were superior he's the guy went to prison for a for for molesting the the two young women did -- I had heard that there's a story out that you hire him after he got out of prison is that correct.

Another book I ever thought right we are like politically got to prison I would then Florida. I had a business down there and I certainly didn't hire him down there but you know I've been their request and the bomb at the planet in for -- and I know I've said that you have. On the ship the network -- I believe him when he denied the allegations that were made against bill meant. You know. What this has been -- pretty well.

So we never worked for he never worked for you after he got out of prison.

You know there ought to record ahead of every and every up company I ever had that. And to make sure but aren't we -- let me a lot of why what when you get out of prison.

But but that's I mean did he work for you or Massachusetts that. Okay can you read this you can -- the convenience store and CN.

A couple of they're they're they're that we still ahead yeah.

Okay but he didn't but as far as you know you're saying -- he didn't work for you that.

That's about I am -- call -- the record the make sure that nobody goes running -- about -- who's the primary I don't delegate -- the morning. And bell what kind of oak barrel record if the Barack -- that but that doesn't make sense to make.

Okay because that's going around the cape as you well as you know is --

I got questions not a question of the day you know have I ever declared bankrupt they have ever done that. And ought never to Quebec repeat no I've never been arrested -- that people -- We there's no doubt in me every possible Webster and that's okay if they do that but there are born here. Republican candidates should be talking about the issue than what we'd like the bill when we get the logic that's.

We also heard the other globe is working on a story about about you was that correct.

Yeah I was gonna throw all that today about a radar -- that I'd damaged and the police are very nice being ED. Seven and I thank god that's one of the one -- there rapping about the day and traffic big it's related to red light.

Supposedly you were setting people up on the red lights that you ought to -- you out of a button thing too so you could catch people going to work.

I didn't have any button on out of sleep well but of what I'm rapidly absolutely not.

That was one of the web sites right that would that it.

It wasn't a bit so in other -- thought about Ali I'll spend time reflecting finger happened that the AB. What didn't happen in the -- well the police up there and you know bumping that somebody accuse the police thought there are what they're being myself with a red light. Issue away their via an off the worked so mature and Republican candidates are talking about the issue then that the discovered and it may not so much that you didn't that it. The that that it spirit is basically that we're not talking about shelling of -- at a party. It doesn't always draw that. Whatever word you won a year. You know the tactic that defending itself and I you know you have to adapt and I'm not saying -- this for the reason. Why shouldn't be better but we doubt that we're a -- of the democratic candidate and it's very.

Well I mean Keating Keating is certainly go well known figure I don't know I don't I wouldn't say O'Leary is that well known but Keating's. -- been around a long time you know longer than you have Jeff you know. Mean that's the -- that's a reality that isn't it that he.

I don't. I don't know -- I don't know lot of other things related to. Where police and the issue related the Flanagan were vetted in 2000 and do what I ran. And so you know if the standard if -- step up to a higher level we will that be myself from the beginning that you get every better. The story gets told again. And the same should be there are going to pick the the story here and they stand distributor spent everybody you're trying to run for congress.

Right what never heard any of these stories about the Keating I mean honestly I mean as well.

That's that's quite quite you know -- folk that don't like our primary pardon my. Are getting out vetted very well what by the -- the media but I don't need that any vetting going on on the democratic ticket.

Doubt you that you brought up the facts I'll just ask you about it have you have you ever been arrested.

Apple would not have never used another name in New York is the -- but the at ia global doubt you know today absolutely not and I -- I don't know our Thelma filed.

18774. Let's say a few calls for Jeff -- the state rep for months in which she's running for it what is the -- running in the globe tomorrow or her.

I don't know they're running -- we answered that question you know very straightforwardly. We have to be any document they tabulated -- bank. And we we gave them a comment you know it never gonna -- the the Olympic declared bankruptcy whatever they're -- in -- that document then I I don't know if they've got to continue. --

And your check in on Flanagan to see if you are hired if you are to be -- work --

Now I wanna make sure I know I never fired a one out in Florida where I'm not he would have -- out of jail.

Okay Jim your next with Howie Carr and representative Jeff Perry go ahead Jim.

Are right Jeff well -- appetite -- murder that -- either in a question. My my my comedy -- yard average or -- support Yuba. You know. I I just -- I don't believe you get eighty inches in less than a couple Margie assay used by your have a bachelor's degree. I mean you are not stupid how would you say you're a liar your -- but I tell you and I -- but I like WEB. In the NBA this Larry my question is. -- why weren't you around with all of -- Skelton in your closet is one after another -- let -- just that you keep -- standing up big. I mean. Just then if fact if you have a at all these allegations that we we have one chance at this I really think you should step down any.

Let let let him respond to that job.

Well I don't I'll -- anything you know Ali and you know -- the well of the other night Kurt and I've always whenever ordered aspect that -- here are a lot.

Oh yeah investing UB UB answer -- you I've divest -- pretty much all the questions I had tonight. You know you haven't you haven't word Allah did you spend with the globe today.

Apologies I don't know how many who went back and -- put down. I I've spent you know doesn't go -- hours sitting with reporter. Talking about things they're calling them saying there and being -- Untrue they're vetting process then you know so so. Jim I think your name was when being. You can decide really wants the forty and decide if they're also very important barely can decide which one other Republican primary that Mora left -- them. That bumper and decide what I'm trying to be good to talk about why one of being under. People at the other side while there are -- they gonna vote for -- answered questions but I spent time stock in the globe like there in front dark and all the newspapers. And then I try to be very very affable ought to answer anybody's questions about the only people on September 14 they're gonna get to the side -- wanna vote for.

Thanks for the call Jim frank you're next with Howie Carr and stay representative Jeff Perry go ahead frank.

It'd -- a non interest in these small issues that how we bring you up because of close you have certain core values of loans or look everything. And so on your web site that says you support the Second Amendment. But I do but I don't believe you. So they're asking some questions. I am an expert on the Second Amendment that the way where it's of the volatile quickly -- my question very quickly is Mitt Romney is that some severe damage to the Second Amendment. I won an -- what you would change and what damage do you believe he's done what you would do to correct it.

How can -- beat the question I didn't really hear the -- and.

He -- he said -- the did it did a number of things to war I get -- to reduce people's Second Amendment Rights in Massachusetts of what would you do to restore them.

Let me first of all -- bank endorsed by god actually gonna have been a while reading from them and then it degrading from the IRA who have always -- me -- my legislative races and I think they're pretty good -- of the -- Second Amendment at. I I don't. -- specifically address but he was suggesting that Mitt Romney did without an amendment I'm not I'm not aware -- that that probably at the back remember I didn't like some of the transferred. While I do that would dedicated fund the thumb of the what -- of the night. Barely don't think that's appropriate but I believe the black and -- an individual right and look -- bet that Rick the lake. And I will continue to support that individual right. As a member of congress.

Jeff for at a time but I appreciate you coming on today answer all the questions about you when then you know good good luck in the future will -- on again okay. -- thanks. 18774694322.