Tim Cahill

Because the governor is miffed. 6172666868. We're joined now by the treasurer in receiver general of the commonwealth in the independent candidate for governor. TMK -- how you doing this treasure for a quick Charlie how are you good now you you're out in front on this you yes thank you would have signed this bill if you look up yes.

not a perfect all but I I said from day one -- it was my idea. First come up with the destination resort casinos before the governor. Did back in 2007. I believe. And then last year 2009. Given the economic challenges in the revenue challenges I suggested that we start which slot parlors that we do it right away. And that became what we have is a -- right now.

Now from the start is always said as speaker. You wanna do expanded gaming I'm into I'll be happy to talk about it. But I'm a -- guy you know on the slots polished guy so we're gonna get on this road got out would like to do some slots yet. And last week the governor cannot set. Well OK I'll go with one slot play sendoff. Will have 19 and then so they pass his build they give them is resort casinos just the way they -- he wants that given the gaming commission that he'll control right. And then they say you may also may he may also have to slot collars. Any hits that he hits the roof you're do you think he's like losing it a little bit on.

It's issued its yeah ideal and I think he's being irrational. I mean because that the re at the end of the date. A slot parlor. Does not is not really that different from the casino net most. Of the machines of people play the casino slot machines -- not different -- it's the same thing different location. This racing involved in these places already function as places where people gamble -- right yelling at Suffolk does this every five years on the horses. That we have twelve states in the country that have -- seen us. Posts though the revenue from those just racing knows are to a half billion. And it creator almost 30000 jobs so it's not just a drop in the bucket and it's nothing there's nothing. Immoral about a slot parlor that's different from a casino so I I don't get it that less is just politics in it sounds like it's just. Politics is Nimitz is based. And for some reason they may be slot parlors ought to be something evil way and in no different really than casinos.

6172666868. If you wanna join us on here with Tim Kay hill candidate for governor. State treasurer and we're talking about all the commotion in at the Statehouse over Iraq. All this debate on gaming in any other questions on issues that you'd wanna talk about. That's what that's what how we with speculators listen how we show yes fifty -- said. What he was hearing from the state house is that there petrified. Of losing. Brooke White Cambridge Newton the liberals the new goose here in the Google news certainly go walked -- horrible Grambling here are in Massachusetts. And they ER the so there -- opposed to that they're afraid of losing it. So after all lists all the debate all the work all the meetings he's just blown it up yeah he's hitting the ball -- yet just just thrown it over like just.

I think he he sounds petulant right now yeah I Keating get we wanted. In this two years in a row last year he didn't get we wanted. Which was a gas tax so he helped things up until we got a sales tax there was no debate. In the legislature about whether we should have a tax at all and whether it was going to be good for the business. You know for the economics of the states they did it anyways this year he held things up again. Put his line in the sand kept moving the line in the sand right and then set at the end there when you can do this you know after all that work has been done. And we're so close and the so many people who need jobs that's the thing that's the most frustrating and -- it in just doesn't make any sense.

Now this this is truly -- jobs -- because it it gets into the building of the race he knows the building of the casinos. And then the people who work there right and of course the the Greyhound tracks are basically gonna have to be shut down after -- you know Greyhound racing was bay and here right in this would keep jobs and create more jobs how many jobs -- we get out of the racing announced that the -- which your estimation.

It's not addicted tuck in 151000 yards total I think it's a small portion of it might be thousands you know but I just heard today that up plane which is laid off 157 employees one day tracks because. They know that they can't hold onto them anymore because it's not going to be just there's not going to be in slots right well that's that's a direct result of what the governor. He's still feast Costa 157 people the jobs because he just. He doesn't wanna deal with the reality. And as a wanna work with the legislature. Noses over and done with through the year do you think he's just not gonna do anything or do you think the legislature would you hearing from from up I'm hearing -- that they're not gonna come back in the session in -- want to and any even if they did. Did the chance of very good chance that the descent it. Does not have the votes to pass over and if this became just the casino -- to governor wants in the house doesn't have the votes so would almost be a moot point. If they would come back so it doesn't look like it would work. And I just don't think it's a worthy game of chicken to be playing and throwing the ball back in their court after they came up with a with a compromise and again. That's the art of government is to compromise and to figure out how we can get people to move in the right direction in this governor. You know all we heard all we heard back in the -- in the spring of 2010. Which put on this health care bill with don't let the perfect. -- enemy of the good. Right as the health care bill was far from perfect right kept saying it's not perfect don't let it be the enemy is good this is exactly the same thing it's not a perfect piece of legislation but it's a good piece. -- it gets -- moving forward. And gets us to focus on other things because this isn't the only thing we should be focused on what the only jobs. Jobs creation that we can do but it's a big part of it to anyone else. He's gonna invest billions to dump billions of dollars and the state -- bring tens of thousands of jobs. And would -- and -- and ask any government subsidies. I'm still waiting to hear this is the only industry it's gonna do that and we should be welcomed me in welcoming them here. So that our people here in the state can just stay in the state when they wanna gamble.

All right so this just came I don't know if you -- mass consumer business confidence plummets from. The State's high unemployment rate in the prospects of a slow economic recovery or wearing down the confidence of both consumers and business executives in Massachusetts. Two new surveys show this for just moved on the wire from the Boston Herald. A consumers surveyed by mass insight a research firm shows that consumer confidence in the state plunged by. Nineteen. Points last month to its lowest level since October 2009. The fall reverses to straight quarters of which consumer confidence had actually risen. It's all about jobs said bill got no guns -- of mass insight. One quarter of Massachusetts households had someone on -- war in the last year with no relief in sight it's not surprising that confidence has collapsed again. Separately associated industries of Massachusetts means business confidence index dropped five point two. Points in July. This index is the most significant -- month sent back since it bottomed out in February 2009. -- toward though. The chief economist -- CBS Ellis group. So too bad for business the end for consumers. Bad news on the economy yet and yet here's the governor's it's saying I don't want those 151000 job screw you yes.

Yeah they mean I don't tell my way I don't get and they've been touting about how we've been recovering quicker than the rest the country and you can't you tell that to the hundred in the 300000 plus people who are work. And and the people who are unwilling aren't comfortable -- spending money. -- you raise the sales tax us to right so it doesn't help the consumer if they're being deceit we saw that report earlier this week about how foreclosures have spiked. We think of I've heard from people out on the campaign trail who were afraid of losing their house is right now oh sure that this debt just breaks your heart. And it also obviously kills people's confidence. So for the governor just to thumb his nose at any jobs. Any jobs but especially this number of jobs in this number of this size of the economic development opportunity. Is is disgrace that suggested this governor would this veto over his position owns this recession now. He can't blame it on anyone else. He owns that you raise the taxes twice in a row. Two years in a -- businesses and then on consumers and this year he's thumbed his nose and a jobs bill that would create tens of thousands of jobs and bring in untold. Hundreds of millions not billions of dollars of economic development. -- this state treasury Tim -- OK so you're lucky enough to win in November you take over January 2 third whatever the date is. Was Tim -- he'll do to get things moving again. Well we we rear resurrect this bill right away. To get it off the table and to move forward because this is -- gonna take. A while I think for every -- as we're talking 69 months before we start seeing revenue and jobs. And for casinos were talking three to fight -- to me this isn't just gonna happen overnight if you want it to happen in the first term you gotta start on the first day. And this bill I believe has the support of the legislatures that would be the first thing that we will work on. Second to that we would work to try to lower taxes bring down the sales text back the five if it's not voted on -- And then bring income tax down 5% as well so that we can start to stimulate the economy. Would government money but with people's own money. Makes sense okay we're getting some text here for ten K hill. I mean Texas at 68680. Why not send the Reese he knows how to bid that he give the tracks the right to match. That's fine that's fine I mean I think there's legislation calls for the bids. -- stone figure out where they would go if not for the racetracks so I don't know who else would be bidding on these things that would be legit. If you have a -- know it usually means that it has. They racetrack they're -- racing animals -- I don't know where else they would go and I don't know why that's such a sticking point for governor that given no bid contract to cape wind. A no bid grant to. Evergreen Solar up to about seven million dollars. I'm and it's been willing to give out no bid contracts to. More people than you can shake a stick yet on other things. Evergreen Solar that was almost it is delisted from NASDAQ last week yeah and is shipping jobs out to China -- the movie that all of their jobs just seventy million dollars in reorient them and and and and just loan guarantees similar to what we didn't do for Curt Schilling. Rush week we differ evergreen solid to create. Green you know and the green environment which is worthy but it's not economically viable. So this governors talking out of both sides of his mouth by saying. All of a sudden these have to be -- out I agree that and the legislation Collison that he did out amongst the tracks will get more money that way I don't see where else they gonna. And then you've got embracing a site and then the casinos themselves will be bid out to wherever they can go right and I think -- should have an option of getting on those as well if if they -- the right location. And they've proven that they can manage these things and bring in revenue I don't see any reason why we need five at the end of the day we could have straight right. Two of them could be attracts one could be somewhere else on western mass -- think that kind of makes sense I've always start of the tracks as a sort of a bridge. Two full scale casinos because you could start them up right away and you would also automatically put them in places -- people. Currently and for historic reasons having gambling for a long time. Makes sense yes. All right we got a text here why are you against unions Tim -- hill. I didn't think I was against unions so I thought to be honest with you -- I've got union support I I don't have all -- I think the governor has a good number of it. I we know what it teaches -- gives you because he's through the State's education system aside to get the teachers yeah I mean I -- you know what I'm for working class people in and middle class people at the union people I'm gonna fight from within nonunion people would fight for them to get jobs. I'm not gonna discriminated against store for either one. I'm just gonna help people who are working. With the hands are working with their heads or just. Trying to find jobs -- try to find them jobs and I think unions would be wise to support me because I'm gonna create jobs and governor.

Exactly -- let's grab a hold then Peter from western your first today with Charlie Manning and state treasurer and receiver general and candidate for governor Tim Cahill.

Cali FMR you don't all right here. -- Get my way I'd like you did something illegal I mean -- a legal and illegal out of it what -- Coke -- Coakley got the day. But what what -- issue with periods are being. I think I Democrat is a Democrat if they're Democrats. Even as actually meet back. And also I'd be real it for you get them there rape and commission to be better act and the almighty. -- and cronies think you got -- employee there. I mean you have all of the probation department you guys and they got your employees your family in --

Like this they call I got last night on -- ratio since all did you were you calling other stations aegis called the jolly Manning's shoulder.

I've got a call to another station tried to call how we market it and let.

we're trying to call Eric -- first time caller first time listener.

Yeah I know our knowledge our god called you a couple of times before you know you run a small business -- now Westbrook the -- not all --

Oh yeah yup I should do bullets let him answer that Peter thinks or call eight PR percent immunity wise they just got the same kind of -- plus night I run the state lottery. We have a commission. Four appointees by the governor I'm the chairman of the board. It's a best run lottery in the country it's the most efficient and lowest cost administratively and we pay out more prizes and anyone else the country so. I've got more experience running a gambling or gaming operation that anyone else in state government and I think the record. Proves itself we've run well we've got less employees today there when I started. Where the most efficient water in the country only 2%. Other revenue goes to cost administrative costs and that includes printing tickets and all the things that we do to oversee 7500 agents. And I think we've run a very very good operation so I think Peter THE question you can trust me. To run a good operation. We've got one of the best pension funds in the state -- we've run a very good school building authority so I hire people who can do the job willing to work hard. And who produced for the taxpayers of Massachusetts and from governor I'll do the exact same thing. In people will be proud and excited with the results which is what -- produced this treasure for the last seven years.

What of those new pension fund numbers by the US are in the pay by the twelve point 8% up Nadia. So so overall -- getting close to eight years now it's up or down for the state pension picks up about sixteen billion dollars it's sixteen billion dollars or more start in the day that you -- started yet so all those ads I heard that you lost all the money in the pension fund they weren't accurate or inaccurate now. No they weren't accurate and just so Peter -- still. I appreciate what he does is small businessman I'm the only one in this race it's ever run his own business. And that's how I approach state government. Two run elect a small business he can't waste money if you have a small business you have to try to make a profit are the very least breakeven. And I understand it can relate to those folks like Peter all across the state they're trying to keep their heads above water in what state government to either helped them. We'll get out of the way and lower the costs on this small business because it's small businesses that really. Via the brunt of tax increases and fee increases and regulatory increases. Well Peter works we hear from Peter and -- recognizes voice now that we talked to him. He -- the -- painting business. And they are getting overwhelmed by illegal immigrants he can't get jobs anymore. He's down to just a couple of guys in here and when used to you know to a lot of jobs employ a lot of guys. -- he's just getting killed yet by illegal immigrants and people who play by the rules which is generally small businesses middle class folks in the winds there getting screwed right now by illegals and by. Democratic government that's why I left the Democratic Party. They didn't understand the needs of the middle class and small businesses which state you still -- when I started out this business. The party of the Democrat choose to be for the little guy for the small businessman for the guy trying to get up that's not the party. That I -- I think he used to be and that's why I'm -- I struck out as an independent. 6172666868. We'll take a quick break for the news at the bottom of the hour and then we'll be back to take your calls and Nancy your attacks with these treasurer of Massachusetts in the candidate for governor Tim -- help.

Welcome back -- shows 617666816. If you wanna join us were talking to Tim Cahill candidate for governor and dark street treacherous. Let's go right back to the calls Tom and can't your necks with Tim --

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Probably just there's -- place in the government forties so what are if you lose or draw you in in November. You just got too many good ideas but this is still prepared to I just don't get this psyche of casinos in the first place. That although the bill is -- You're just gonna take -- And when they walk back door Julio formal table. Most regressive tax you'll step first -- outlet lottery tickets by the way but I think that should this sale.

I just don't get it and three with two great wolves it's just an --

Well too stunned to say you know it's not a tax you know some people call it a regressive tax that it's not -- the only people they spend all and so want to spend it. And what we're doing is allowing adults to spend the money the way they wanna spend it. And the reality is Thomas is spending already did you spending in other states because we were allowed to spend it in Massachusetts.

Nobody like -- it -- it would be like not having. Your so it would be like not allowing people not allowing the state to have a Wal-Mart. Our home people here because you don't like big box retailers --

Scroll in this -- it won't because it what. If you get these people wanna they'll be able they have to drive -- hundred -- down the -- right now and do it in Connecticut -- But to make it accessible put it right well so all you're doing you're inviting people to leave you on him again being able and I appreciate the job but we're trying to create --

Outlook creating the most formal bid requirement in the state you could ever imagine and creating a more open --

Well you do in the industry who actually opening.

Tom I'm all in favor that but nobody's beaten our door down in manufacturing. Or some of these other. Industries even the Biotech industry needed a billion dollars of money from the state to to jumpstart that industry we just don't have that kind of money. So I'm not arguing. We do you like that point it's just it's part of an overall strategy to jumpstart the economy and create some jobs because -- desperate for jobs right now.

And Tom you know what's going on in the world I mean they built the manufacturing is going on in India. Then they determine it costs too much so they bring it to Pakistan and then they determine cost too much there now it's all being moved to Bangladesh. I mean that's going to -- world.

It's it's not amnesty what is it that's right and it's a way to siphon money out of people's pockets because the government needs to beat itself.

And I do so that's immoral or are -- built but it'll -- talk a little jolt. At least below the court like some good and some bad jobs and -- agree to oppose this all jobs are bad.

I don't agree with the time I write. I really don't agree I don't think there is a bad job -- follows out of work for a couple years in the seventies we had nine kids in the family. He was a white collar worker had a great job this company laughed they just packed up and closed down in moved out. Trust me. As someone who grew up as a teenager with a father who was out of work is no such thing as a bad job he went to work as a maintenance man. In a senior citizen building change -- call from white to blue. Any his life got much better -- debt tribunal and never paid them. Nearly as much as the other job it was a different job -- downsize and and and changes outlook on life in terms are we was gonna beat. But trust me there is it is is someone who grew up with a father who was it working for a living. For a couple of years there's no such thing as a bad job -- trust me on that one. That's ten KEL let's good again in Waltham -- round with Tim Cahill on the Charlie Manning show.

Hey I am it it did make a comment two calls ago that tell you what -- but the state like a small business. Setting a system that on their own business for quite awhile. They don't small business did not offer pensions. They don't offer. Health care retirement benefits. But I put my callers your -- about the casinos. I -- lot of negative aspects to casinos. I'm always a societal but it could impact our lottery. And also. That dilution of the customer base that is going probably to foxwoods. That is -- about it there it -- to. Has barge which we. That's how about we won't be doled out -- field but we want a certain percentage of the government and the customer base.

You know what Mitt Romney did didn't he tried it yet when Mitt Romney was governor and they were talked about casino series that. -- I didn't IDR let's see between -- that Connecticut casinos to pay us not to have casinos.

Okay I think this is not about what -- out. They said no signal do you think it's they don't know where they ask thank final --

I think this and issues around doing it to what to say said no I I just I don't think legally. Yeah -- it's it's I don't know whether I know what the right term risk is not a bad idea. But it was tried -- it was found that it wasn't workable for a number of reasons. Mostly that they wouldn't pay we just sort of they offered in the -- pulled that back win when governor Romney. Thought it might make some senate itself -- it was it doesn't go well limit to say may announcement -- yeah I was there at that time and and we went down that road and it didn't work. The only piece of that the end that that doesn't really help assistant jobs -- cell and I think that's the most important part. Of this legislation is that it creates jobs it creates. Trades jobs for workers to build these casinos to build these slop -- to build hotels. That come with resort destination casinos. We're almost at 50% unemployment the trades right now this summer and I'm sure that has suddenly do that consumer confidence being down nobody's working. Would build -- schools and in my program at the school building authority but does not a lot of other construction is very little private sector construction going on right now. And that's the key aspect of this beyond the revenue. And beyond the issues of gaming versus non gaming and I hear all those -- understand it. But we need jobs right now this is the only thing I'm seeing. That would create thousands of jobs -- 1015128. To be honest with yet if it's a hundred jobs right now I'm gonna support what.

You know every what is the argument is it's gonna hurt the lottery and the lottery produces local laid in revenue that goes the cities and towns yet. Your head of the lottery you're -- you're the chairman a lottery yacht commission yet. What we'll do lotteries you -- studies tests we did a study three years ago when this first came up and that's what led me to sort of propose that we go down this route. Which showed us is that states -- lotteries and casinos see a small drop off in the first five years anywhere between three. In maybe 8% drop off gross drop off from waters and they eventually come back up. What we found we did our research we do our focus groups is -- the different kind of players the lottery players Morgan impulse buy. It's a convenience by is that where they are convenience stores. A -- opposed to casinos looking for an experience that would spend the day. They wanna spend hours they wanna do other things so what we found is that it's a very slight drop off. But it the end of the day if you wanna grow revenue to bring back the cities and towns this is the only way to really do it because the lottery is a mature business and we got no place else to go. And we can't really -- to many more products right now we pretty much offer everything that we can offer. So if you wanna grow revenue for cities and towns to lower property taxes as our governor promised to do. This is what way to do it. I believe could you could you talking a couple of hundred million dollars in revenue that you could add to the lottery -- return 900 million.

we need to separate commissions would it have been better just have this legislation create one commission lottery commission in gaming can cause and you actually could guys did they need to different I didn't need to separate. Operations because they are different operation for sure and -- underwent commission absolutely no question about it. Now we have a text here and it's from six those three. And it says please tell -- meet -- my house the second. That if he wants to. That if he wants to help the economy he should get out of the way so they're calling you -- my house the second. And here popping up on our. On our call screener is the real -- miles high you don't Christie.

Pretty I pretty fighting Al yeah.

Not mind that they can pay here used to ten K hill and Tim do you mind that I don't appear young router Christie I --

I know I'd like him I and I know you up again but I wish him well and and I ask that you -- one -- lottery and and that's why everybody calling it -- I I I don't know by now what the gambling they looked like it but it's not backed -- up. I don't know if you're watching what Chris Christie is doing got a New Jersey. And what Maryland and Delaware -- getting into sports betting. -- lottery system. And -- attempt. It's. Got their feet and just stay at a credible plot. -- what you helped create over the lottery it affected vehicles what spreading the -- hundred billion dollar illegal business. And we look it's -- We look at the numbers that we endorse system we can we that we could glean at least -- billion dollars -- not have to. Share it with anybody you know what this statement win the world off all the gap. You -- the insiders -- in the world of the -- so. Really it again you run a great lottery I've been the benefactor I -- over the -- certainly. But to do about sports betting brutal lottery like other states to do it and all of that they have to he goes to meet at stake. So I --

Chris the I need to -- isn't there -- Fed's role law that proved here bits. States except for I think Nevada in New Jersey. Eric and some in some other states that had it before the law was passed like -- Oregon. I graduated we have to get some type of change in federal law to do that.

All we have to do was to -- can work out with New Jersey and -- and I'd just be part of that because it is. A number. Constitutional people I've talked is that it unconstitutional. And then today and that would they had better. -- and then you're really had been I can't. But we thought to clean up a billion -- could be -- publicity -- it's been real property tax relief but debt. But again I won a couple of them I think. -- very EM strong campaign thank you Andy didn't that look it you're still in this thing and don't let anybody -- you beat.

Thank of course I think and I I appreciate that coming from someone who who tried to do this for years ago it means a lot to me and and you're one of our best lottery agents as well got a great job. Right you know selling our product first I think the idea has merit. Now what we've tried to do and this is interest in where bio close to selling -- one billionth. Dollars' worth of sports themed scratch tickets we started that process a few years ago partner with the Red Sox the patriots the Bruins announced Celtics. With selling with close to selling a billionth. Dollars worth I slow those tickets to you know -- give my Brothers -- my Brothers and I think the gifts we send each other from birthdays. -- is a cards. With about just scratch tickets then -- and then you hope your brother hits for something good you know and and it's a great prizes we got away RD season tickets to life in third two. Winners in the Red Sox season tickets the like that's something you can only win at the state lottery it's not something you can buy rice and the same team would -- with the patriots -- we've given away I think to a three sets. Season tickets for life so this may be -- way to get down that path Christy we've seen a great. So our response to that sports -- tickets it's a scratch tickets so it's not quite the same as sports gambling because it's only luck involved in the lottery. But it may be a way to sort of combine the two and what it's really done. Is it's broken down that wall between professional sports. And the lottery -- and much more comfortable dealing with us I think the biggest. Opponent of the legalizing. The gambling that's what's gimmick is the professional leagues themselves right Daily Mail they really trying to push against itself and is a lot. The people pushing against it but I'd certainly consider it in Mikhail administration is a way to bring in revenue if we can do it legally.

remember football cards and we root kid yes then you'd play a football card. The lottery could do that easily and -- just filling your three of fourteen sure pick in that yeah we can run it but I'm Leo and then it would be so much fun it's very similar I know -- stake in this it's very similar to what the numbers game was it used to be done illegally yes good on a neighborhood. At a convenience store barber shop to -- numbers. And now it's legal it's about boy and that's how the lottery started back in the seventies and it's been very successful. And I appreciate your comments Christiane and I think accepted it we should definitely consider and again the reason I keep the my mind open on it. Is because people are doing. So it's not like we're creating something -- just making sure that we regulate it and again government gets gets a share deck and then go back to the taxpayers are set. Tax increases. 617666860. It will take one more break in the will be back in just run run through these calls everybody hang on the line with Tim -- heal the candidate for treasurer candidate for governor. And our present state Treasurer Tim Cahill will be right back.

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OK okay what's the question. Supposed to give me a million dollars I'll get you all the minor yeah I can't do that now objective that can't wait don't buy votes -- you and I already stray dog maybe -- a million dollars and then you can use that money you have yet are you Walter McCarty Mexican.

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Yes and that's what I thought and it it was legal yet. But.

South Carolina question I pretty much know what you can say they're both gonna ask questions anyway okay. Why isn't a large -- slot machines everybody -- Keeneland.

We can't buy a lot that's a lot to slot machines -- called class three gaming. We can only offer class two and believe in Iraq -- is considered class to.

They'll let me throw this -- you see how this flight back in nineteen an injury -- court the Supreme Court in another state all rules. That's his definition of the term lottery. With -- to include all want the game including swap up. And what they're doing -- early it was governor and the legislature. Irritated treasurer and director a lot of lottery and but I -- this can't that I wanted to complete.

Yeah I don't believe I have that power Walt eight yet -- that's a statue I'm not aware of we take our you know we take our marching what is our budget has to be approved by the law by that legislature. We don't have our own budget it's something that we have to get approved we can't advertise without permission from the legislature. And anytime we've tried to introduce some. Machines are some games and even look like or sound like our act like slot machines the legislature -- said you can't do it so. You may be right we've never pushed it because we again we want to live within the law are the spirit of law that's why I think this has to be cleared up. And why the legislature should allow for slot machines and they would figure out where they -- that again. If the legislature set set up a commission. And the commission gets -- governor gets an appointment authority the treasurer of the attorney general I don't see any problem with Dan deciding because the legislature is a -- has to. To enter into contracts to bid out licenses for casinos already seen us. It's very simple and making a much more complicated than this and I've always believed that. Slot machines aren't that different from what we offer. But legally technically they're not something that we can offer right now at least as I see it and as has been interpreted to make. Are we get time for one more call Stephen Belmont you're less today with Tim -- candidate for governor.

Good afternoon jelly and a domestic KLE. Listen I think Eudora super fantastic job you do you worker will hide it and I've done and it.

Romney country can stand I've -- again before Iraq twenty years and that's just switched over to be an independent.

What the Boston building trades. Did I just want my brother's off the bench we need jobs jobs jobs and I'm not vote for Bob Deval Patrick got because I don't believe -- it. Okay Charlie Baker wishes out of -- I -- makes 6000 a date so he does and other real people live.

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I think that you been -- super fantastic job and I appreciate you everything that you don't I'm gonna -- web site come vote for you and I'm gonna close many books and they can't play so.

Steve thank you next thing that's great great way to run a trial -- 71 I am concerned about splitting the ticket but I think you have my vote. Not a bad way -- so great when you come by -- again soon -- well Howie Carr coming up. We'll be --