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Phone calls. I wanna get right back on the most important local issue that's facing all of us. We have Jim Sturgis from the pioneer institute joining us again today. Yeah yeah I'm doing great Jim thanks so Tom I know how busy you are with all this coming down. Our mobile. The state office that over -- this ploy and it's gonna change education in Massachusetts actually. I call it blowing up the -- the best state education system in the country and turning our schools over to the bomber administration. And have them you know basically run out of the federal government out Department of Education in Washington. Which -- Doesn't like a grade -- dear to me.

No it certainly doesn't like I guess I -- I haven't heard from anybody recently what the US Department of Education has done that so good and we know what Massachusetts is done. Oh well we -- a long way to go but certainly. We have the expertise in terms of school level activity how to help out teachers we should teachers have the support they need. It also things like sitting great school great -- those standards we're talking about today. And have in the right assessment to make sure there were holding. Of these good folks speak to the fire the adult -- the fire because we're spending about nine billion dollars a year. State and local. And education and you know out of bed. For all the baby wanna have an education -- They speak about about that 10% of the overall budget. That would make what's that mean.

So dear paying 10%. Of what we do here in public education in Massachusetts. We the taxpayers of Massachusetts are paying 90%. And -- we're gonna turn over our education system to them when we have the number one. Educate public education system in the country.

Yep -- that's precisely you know you'll hear from -- typical open that people have read the globe today. They'll see that the -- about support of this this -- it's come out in the opposition strong opposition. That we hear from folks who work globe readers who appreciate that point of view is that. Hey what's the big deal you know that Spitzer giving up 50%. You know we have to adopt -- the giving up a little heat wave we wanna make extreme improvements we had. And the secretary of education in the commissioners saying things like well. If we make adjustments to the national standards we can get them to be as good as -- are right now. Why would we allow the Fed to essentially put a -- on -- we've been going up after the -- we've been doing better we know how to do even better. But now what we have to scramble. In -- the federal government to say well you know. -- will make adjustments. Word is good as we are right now and they'll welcome back to ask you first to change the federal local -- can do some extra good -- that's not how it should work.

6172666868. If you wanna talk to Jim Sturgis you know it's from the pioneer institute. You're Jim driving home last that I said now -- they have this time dry heat up at the yacht but in the governor's office. Still have some people come out and say oh yeah outgoing having the federal government takeover our schools are. Having the federal court national curricula takeover our schools is a grade I dear. Which of course they had they had two former top state education officials. One who got what a nice job he's head of Pittsburg state college. And the other who is. From a lobbyists. To now love working in the education and the area. And -- so they came out they thought it was a great idea --

I've often mentioned Charlie if these interpreted other the other potential benefits of potential conflicts of Dave Driscoll who I respect and I'm a surprise at this point of view frankly right is that dumb -- it's on the board of the Fordham institute which -- people the reports saying that. -- the national standards are as good as the match the masters in its. They receive one point four million dollars to work on and promoting these national standard so that the benefit in terms of sitting on their board and also what they've done. He also. -- what at least last year. Consultant for Peterson testing. Which is one of the biggest testing companies and what's behind all the folks understand it. Is. There is a rush to create in national market for textbook. And for testing. The testing companies don't wanna go to each state -- create. State specific test. They -- have one place where they can go it's to their benefit. He's a consultant that it's well the conflict there as well. We are of the view that we wanna do whatever is best for Massachusetts you know if that works the benefit of the testing company have a problem at but it works against them. I do have a problem and that is the case right now.

Yes the -- talks about these independent panels. There or assembled by the state Education Department. To study and to make the contrast between the national standards in the Massachusetts standards funny the globe editorial and by the way I thought. We will see the biggest suck up the globe editorial for this you know someone in the Department of Education in the governor's office will call the globe in dictated nice editorial for tomorrow's paper. So they said. Yes these national analysts. They said that yes the the national standards -- just as good of course The Herald points out. The old walls fund broke the story. That all the read handles except five -- saying from the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and which is also financing. The calm in core national stand its products. Project keys were hardly independent reviews The Herald says and look. Good for the gates foundation I'm glad you're trying to help schools I think that's a good use for their money. We don't need to change we were number one their modeling them after -- as the globe editorial team's pointing out. Did modeled it on Massachusetts. Vote yes. Com Massachusetts's. It's not risking its autonomy hump but and then and Massachusetts educators will be leading the multistate -- to create new student test and one after another -- already doing it here what are we changing for gym.

I don't know and I would tell you this if you have an announcement that comes out of one of the governor's office in the middle of July and a Friday afternoon. Which is what happened with the commissioner.

Absolutely we jumped all over last Friday afternoon here. It sure but I know your policy person you're very serious policy person in your much more.

Into looking at the pluses and the minuses and weighing an all out and coming up with scientific evidence and all of that. But you have to have thought about the politics here what why is Governor Patrick do is it that he just doesn't care. Is he looking for a position in Indio bomber administration after you loses in November I mean why do you think he is has he been promised something down the lines by the gates foundation. Why is he taking the best school system the best. School standards the best that and the thing is you said that was spent ninety billion dollars are in our state. To make our schools topple lie -- our kids -- top and all the tests. Why is he blowing it up.

Well it's starts the fact that he. Spoke -- the candidate frequently it was philosophy of whole child learning which was you know code for we don't like I don't like to. Standardized testing and people remember that but we remember well about a year and a half ago. The administration Patrick administration to run. Implementing quote -- off to deal. Into the the curriculum we always had harder still what I mean by that is we took that approach which was about content he can alert XYZ. -- and telling. It's well you know we're in the class would've -- it wouldn't think about thinking what it means that we -- Teach and think about specific things along the -- players' guilt you know early -- terribly spokesman Phil giving up what we've done is not a hard after the governor. -- In election year. So what that you were close to politically and not a friendly basis. See the president the United States is putting on the table 250 million dollars if you do not. Leaving that money on the table the political disaster for this government. But the fact is that the governor was not in the position to really address what with the weaknesses in the application. They need. To the federal -- what we always. And that was all around. Do we evaluate teachers. Do we give teachers better valuations if their students do better and -- always been behind on. We've never done a good job that would lead to evaluate teachers for the most part. In that it's a very difficult thing politically for the governor to try to get done what he did -- he took the -- the path of least resistance to that. Well I -- I can kind of steamrolled over the summer. And -- get it done. If people squat terribly much about it going to be at the beach and that's the way open for that is I think what anybody would read into this -- the respectable. Why would we keep up to fix that well what would we allow the federal -- would put feeling and how high we know there's no other explanation for a.

This Jim Sturgis from the pioneer institute who's that suggests so terrific in fighting to keep this education system. The way it's been developed here in Massachusetts and made it number one in the country instead of turning it over. Basically to -- bomber administration our education system. All the decisions are not gonna be made by people from here anymore. Aren't gonna be made by people appointed by our political leaders are governor another month. They're gonna be made in Washington by nameless. Faceless people that we never see. And that there's no responsibility. And of course if we start to slip -- number one now but if our kids start to slip -- you go to the next governor the governor will be able to say. I remember -- thing to do with it all those decisions are being made in Washington we we we you know Governor Patrick turned it over in his. His education people ms. Mitchell Chester in all these folks turned it over to the -- hope bomber administration in Washington and that's the way it is now that's the way it's gonna be and it's nothing we can do it's it's out of our hands.

Yup definitely true that's what it's traditionally this country who had local and state control over education. You know this is -- this will be changed -- be far less accountability.

And and frankly. It's really odd considering where the money's coming we're paying for 90% of it don't we want to hold.

Our officials beat the fire make sure they're accountable for improvement. How can we do that with the federal government essentially. Determining what's gonna be taught a class.

And that's the great shame of it all that it's taking away the control from parents. And concerned folks and folks like the great people the pioneer in institute did have given so much. To the education system all of their good work. And it's gone -- and as somebody said this morning I heard dot Todd talking about in on -- show this morning he Thomas on vacation Todd was running the show and he just said. -- Why would you do this here's one thing that's will be working really well. And Governor Patrick and his cronies on this education. Element you know that -- elementary. And secondary school commission or whatever it's called. Of tomorrow gonna have a meeting and below this all up it's a shame you I was reading the globe editorial again I've read at this morning and before the show and and com. They're talking about how much it will cost. To to to make this changeover. When we already have the best system. But Mitchell Chester said the state would normally have to dear -- cost. But by adopting common core of this is the big Obama thing. A priority of -- bomber administration -- a priority is right Chester states the state could achieve the added bonus of updating educational system. Which federal race to the top funds so being mean money we get under this race for the top. We're gonna need it to change our whole curricular and our standard states to pay for all that.

treated at least opening new expenditures on textbooks professional development. Sitting around talking about oh we put this stuff into place in need of a sad thing about this this Charlie. On the ground if you look at brought in look at Boston. Those two districts that have been really working pretty hard the last couple years to make sure that -- local level. You're teaching all the rich liberal lots of the required not Massachusetts state standards. And you know. No all of the teachers after having that all that work in terms -- the local curriculum represented what was best in the secret. Didn't have to go back and we do all that work you change the goal -- from teachers. He changed the goal posts hit it's gonna take years to implement this has all the dull. Try to make big announcement. Big chain and education. And as usual the US Department of Education will pick -- that. The fact is No Child Left Behind with a terribly supplement law and this will be a terribly implemented well and that's -- essentially. Control the local level.

Jim I know you've got a zillion things to do we appreciate you pop in on again with -- David what time tomorrow is the -- meeting do we know.

He'd like -- have that we don't have that -- sort of be right now I know that we are doing a 145. Press announcement little press conference on the state health steps 145 a spokeswoman. They'll.

Today you're doing it today 145. On the Statehouse steps gym and all the opponents of blowing up. The state the best state education system in the country gonna be there today so if you're out at one true you can go by you're you're in town. Stop by some Statehouse steps 145 today.

the board of education meeting could be in the morning probably from. From 9 o'clock to twelve.

So will know when we come on the year that I that they've ruined our schools is -- that turn -- quite correct except God's -- let's catch up tomorrow and keep up the great work in Ramadan hopefully we can find a remedy for this thanks an awful lot. 617.