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Fri, 16 Jul 2010|

Jessica Vaughan of the Center for Immigration Studies joined Charley to discuss a new video showing Illegals crossing the border in great numbers. Can we seal the border?

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And of the Center for Immigration Studies on the Charlie Manning show hey Robert.

Charlie I'm I'm afraid to say that. I mean we could take a documentary camera probably got into Mexico we could wake apple want the most violent. Illegal immigrants try OM over the border. Wouldn't that send her -- and then and then put that on fox who -- and the power that beat even a citizen. That they're not gonna stop. Do when what the this administration is doing what they're not just -- administration. But also the head of the NAACP. And -- new black -- this person until the exploit. To stir up -- to come out on November 2 in the mid term election to talk political and it's very very very good Scots then. And the club option jolly laptops now actually that we can't and I'm -- brown. We can't depend on Mitt Romney well maybe a little bit on Mitt Romney excuse but it -- for children now. To get up off the couch. And can change. -- power structure. Well here on the base state and in maps which used to please people everybody would then Madonna Mike -- I'm sorry to be melodramatic but it's very very serious situation. This government has taken control of health care of the banks. To get a loan -- financial reform package now. And now they're just trying to get more I'm more control my. They should feel bad for all all book. Immigrants in this country that didn't even lied to just stick them up to glow and hopefully I'm bound to promote let me hang up with things.

The call Robert you know just I keep hearing that the Obama strategy. Of suing Arizona. Are not enforcing the borders. Is this brilliant political strategy. Because this is going to drive. Hispanic Americans. Out to the polls to vote for Obama as candidates and vote Democrat this time around that'll save the men you know. Nevada with Harry Reid in other seats in the in the other states. I don't see it I just see if upsetting people in gonna drive. Regular folks out to the polls and I think dead includes Hispanic Americans have you seen any evidence in the studies that you do. That that this policy that these political decisions made by President Obama. Are actually gonna help keep the people he supports this fall.

Now on the contrary I agree with you I I think. They believe that this this come brilliant strategy but this just showed you how that -- they are from reality. I I think that yes there is gonna pay more backlash. As a result of this stupid decision to do this state of Arizona. And in making -- statements about how our border is secure. And that there -- in control and that immigration enforcement has never been tighter. When when people know that that's not the case. And our polling and other polling that I have seen out there. Shows that Hispanic. Point of view on this is on the illegal immigration issue is not much different from everybody else's in that. Now that believe in the rule of law and that laws need to be enforced and that there are negative consequences for illegal immigration. So you know the thought that he's going to be rewarded by some cute voting block his -- I think -- a fantasy.

I just don't see you know maybe give the smartest political I mean they got him elected you know you gotta given credit for that he and his people got him elected in the and they did win and they did win convincingly. -- I just. He notes to meet if I'm it's if they present and asked me to -- and said look come fail and in the polls. Things are going badly what would you suggest that I do the first thing that I woods' talent to do is. Get 5000 troops down to the border and seal it up. And good down there and dropped the suit against Arizona and good on the air and meet with the governor. And meet with the governors of those states I guess they have a yearly meeting where they all get together and say. We're put 5000 troops down on the border and we're gonna have spies in the sky and we're gonna have everything down here. To be available and we're gonna -- forced the border but of course we do know one of the Senate this from Arizona. Gave him the same advice. And the president said according to the senator from Arizona. I'm gonna -- do that. In will never get the comprehensive. Immigration reform another words amnesty for illegal immigrants. That I wanna get truth we enforce the border that basically will begin taking -- of the problem.

So really get excited with his priority it.

You sure did it sure did let's grab another call bill in. Sultan -- self Weymouth how are you bill.

I'm -- from mr. -- thank you for asking you do that. Could address send them. That's -- just I'm vacation with his family and his visiting the national parks and Arizona yes. And -- drives had about 2 o'clock in the afternoon he's driving through these Diane national our communities. Some lights flashing ahead things may be due to counteract this -- approaches. They -- do you have -- block -- up in the middle the national park in the middle of the afternoon. And sending National Park Service is not just. Interrogated him as if he were if he were taking drugs the end of his wife and his two children in the -- interrogating with the field of drug runner.

Wow -- That's strange.

Yeah about every -- statement that they did not have so many problems with that that they feel that this is that.

Well he's seeking Mozilla and that's unusual birdied the word he implied -- they were they would bench every day where I -- You know it's the world trade and the National Park Service.

Dry and yet that's what that's what -- Jessica -- was telling us that here in the south central park service lands. Bit -- you're free to enforce things they are because you know they don't of the firepower to match up against the -- side drug runners in fact they'll hop on that and I. Or you just writing in sending your friend -- I think he'd be very interest in -- my friend today that -- that story we appreciate it let's go to Richard in west for your next with Jessica -- on the Charlie Manning so how are you Richard.

Hey Charlie how -- due to arrive. Com. That's different about immigration and wait now that. From a year and how to go. -- Well it came time to work.

I know I think we are combing two. A place where for instance. Arizona felt that things were out of control so ought to control in their state. And you concede on this video if you -- hop on our website take a look at it or goaded the yacht. These CI yes it's CI AS dot org is they've just got it right CIS dot org and it's right there too if you wanna go there. That they pass this law say you know when you know the story behind the Arizona law we don't have to explain it again here on the show everybody understands that. And that's win the Obama administration. Instead of backing the people of Arizona in supporting them in understanding that the that they can't stand it anymore. Decided to criticize them and take them on -- And then they asked him if he read it and he said now. You have the -- governor of Arizona. Who's now head of Homeland Security. Is supposed to be overseeing the enforcement of our borders criticized loss that she never would have signed it. -- guess what. They aster she read it she said no. So it's increased the frustration level we're at this stage now in our country where. The government is running hog wild in so many areas whether it's national health care a financial regulation. And we just wanted to do the little things right. We want them to be able to -- ready and be active in to help loading cleaning up the worst oil spill in the history of our country we know it's not the government's fault that BP -- that. But the government fell asleep. If we want them to enforce our borders. We're not a country if we don't have safe enforceable borders. That's what I think how about you Jessica.

Yeah absolutely and and a little bit of enforcement goes a long way. It. You know we don't need to go door to door and roundup every single person who is legally and put them on a bus or plane and and cart them back home. If if we simply. Make it more likely -- people who are here legally going to get caught and can to make it impossible for them get jobs to get a driver's. -- get a video card. To collect benefits to get in situation. They're going to realize on their own. That is it's just not all that great to be living here as an illegal alien anymore and most of them I am I gonna choose to go home on their own. We've seen that happen already. With the economic downturn. And also increase in enforcement under the Bush Administration. Arizona through -- using it state authorities has managed to cut the size of it in the population by 13. 2007 and they just you know wanna. Keep that up. So that people go home on their own and -- change the equation for people. And and that's that's gonna work I mean these people are coming here illegally here -- not much different and you know they have been for decades but. As long as we keep giving him -- and deter either and it.

That's a sure you know just to get a take a break to the news -- hanging on for one more segment. Thanks so much I appreciate it. Bill Steve everybody else hang jolly man in just 6172666862. Number. Who -- Jessica's law and of the Center for Immigration Studies were talking about this need using video in you can see that our website just go to W marquis of dot com. Click on the Charlie Manning page you'll see -- picture of me there in right at the bottom Chris our producer got it up their early this morning and you'll just show you what the people of Arizona are dealing with -- it was acquired by the folks at the center for immigration studies and it's a real public service to all of us that they were able to get it out -- set -- everything Jessica. Let's go back to the calls bill on the tape your next -- many in Jessica -- of the Center for Immigration Studies.

Earlier they're the real way --

You -- speakerphone bill. Yeah we speakerphones. Always better to -- debt on that hard Landmine when your on the Charlie Manning show or fewer and your cell phone at least talk directly into it not speaker.

right -- good that's that are part. Well I really true -- employed but I -- Melbourne it was surely a good welcome bigger bite grandparents' home. If we were out or marriage certificate because our pal or character you're creating. That's one. -- The only other Leno and overlay is recently. Became a residence while Carolina. I don't know if there's a sort of a Social Security. -- and again. In order to get wilder place.

Bill's -- now their yet you know billion that you just can't do the guy earpiece and you know all that type of stuff but we understand. This age don't fool around in other pieces. About immigration the way -- you do this year. All of us who have traveled abroad. Know what it's like. But you know we've got to have that passport with you where ever you go that's the amazing thing. That makes you -- Jessica whenever you travel overseas what are you always have in your pocket your passport because you can be asked for a bit in need time.

Yeah I drive in the United States I carry my driver like I mean when I wanna. You know. Purchase the twelve pack up you know light rock I have to produce my driver's license but the -- they does. Nazi Germany or South Africa or something. It so I don't know why people seem so offended. That Arizona's expecting. At federal bike -- that people who -- here from other countries will happen with them. Identification and evidence that they're your people it.

Now. It's one thing I want to ask you about sort of been in the politics of Washington and all the stuff. It does it looks like -- been telling us all along and I know there's been a lot of -- warnings on that. Probably they won't try to -- comprehensive. Immigration reform before Election Day. Because they just know that that the Democrats don't want to touch it with a ten foot pole they don't wanna be looking like they're voting for amnesty for illegal immigrants switches. Part of comprehensive immigration reform but there is a chance that the so called true reenact. It would equal weight from states like Massachusetts. The ability of this day to illegal immigrants know you you can't get cut rate to wish and Mike you're a citizen of our state. You have to pay the full boat if you go to one of our state universities -- state colleges. Like you came from Mexico war in Europe or our window wherever. And Iran that the dream act would. The deep pass that would order states like Massachusetts to give that lower raid in the in state tuition rate and all that stuff. Do you think there's any chance they're gonna do that before Election Day.

I don't think there's any chance that the dream act at that is currently written. Would stand any chance of getting past because if you read the fine print and it sold as. -- wait to provide the mercy to. People kids who were brought here by their illegal alien parents and raised here and improve upon the course here who have. The qualified for cut you know to go to college -- earn a college degree or who. There in the US military -- but fit the actual dream act is written is really a much larger embassy. -- these kids and you know even for people who were up to 835. And then any any illegal alien who earned a college degree. That's not gonna -- I think this particular group. Of illegal aliens that you. Narrowed down to about two million people. Are somewhat sympathetic because they didn't make the choice to come here legally they themselves did actually break the -- they are here illegally. A lot of people who are sympathetic to them. You know it's the truth is that you know they would. It giving an amnesty for the group would. You know provide additional job competition too young Americans in that same demographic and we're trying to get into college kids. But people do you feel more sorry for the most you know -- probably the most sympathetic group of illegal aliens that there is. And you know there are some people who would accept a very narrow version of that if it also came -- And cut in legal immigration to compensate for the large number of these green card that would be issued and more -- immigration law enforcement. So that it wouldn't. Yes that we could deal with the flood -- likely illegal aliens that come to try to take advantage of so. I mean I don't see that happening -- something that's like the only way something like this could get through. The -- like amnesty and end. You know nobody -- touch -- until at least the lame duck session.

A legal immigrants can't join the military anyway right. So the whole idea here is they want you know I'm an illegal immigrant now one idea would join the military. They can't anyway so -- I just I don't debt but that's all about but anyway I'm not join the military it. If -- right exactly the Irish military if there is an Irish military -- Let's go to us Stephen New Hampshire next with side Jessica -- 00 I'm sorry billiard next with Charlie nanny Jessica -- sorry.

I apologize for that built my character thing.

Oh no I'm glad you called back bill thanks --

I just wanted to make certain that the last quarter. What you think is important. In order for me to get -- so Carolina. Driver's license and register my car. I needed -- Social Security card which after those first senior goal right. The guy in front of me that I don't leave it didn't listen trooper warning letter was changing his background. To Jermaine got so you get your -- delivered to walk. So. This -- bogus stuff that got -- stock. But you can't saying it -- public because they year old racists. And -- here's somebody else. But now I mean you're in you're only gave me. Particularly. Being so they need to go like that. Well very happy to have an episode -- my absolute security guard which is -- got out of work.

The rivalry. I would no way to you know I know my Social Security number obviously but I would no way to get on the.

All right but I don't know the card yeah I think the Olympic diaper don't you go who's cheating you're good at crested below it should accept dumber. --

Death -- boy does that does that. It just drives you crazy thanks to that story just GC the peace in the yard globe this week by bright moon he. About the Soto -- immigration issues being hand though didn't I think it's mill listen master -- that don't need it yeah Milford -- wasn't that a terrific piece by Brian.

I thought -- really yeah really get information out there about the problem you know how many unlicensed drivers there aren't as they get the you know a -- on the red zone. You know that you can actually register a car. Here in Massachusetts even if you don't have a white.

Isn't that crazy and the fact that you can definitely because of course Governor Patrick is told -- nine times. You can't get into public housing if you're an illegal immigrant. And they admit right in that story that you absolutely can get into public housing if you're an illegal immigrant and get ahead of Americans who really need those spots.

Yeah why it's. That the double talk that has come out of our politicians on Beacon Hill on this than and they had their chance to fix all of these issues. -- with the budget amendment and you know they acted like they want -- to and then of course there's the conferees turned around and and I just -- the.

They absolutely did they stabbed us right in the back let's go to west Stephen New Hampshire next with Jessica -- on the Charlie Manning -- Hey Steve.

I you don't want -- He nearly -- you're you're really create a way.

Yeah we can hear you just find speed you don't even have to speak up you can hear it you can hear in just the right. Yeah.

Guy is an amazing Charlie you've just set a little while ago and we can figure it out and nobody in the United States yet it is the government cannot figured out. You mention about 45000. Troops on the border. I'd -- that a million times how winter that people like. Can figure it out. How to spot this is in -- and the government. It's just amazing that just regular Joe off the street can figure it out it's so simple you put people -- You are put people walk on the borders. --

Oh yeah I mean we have Steve troops all over the world you know we saw. We just saw the back and forth with the Japanese government about the troops we still have -- you know stationed in Japan. We have troops all of Europe we have troops of course in. -- Iraq we have troops of course in Afghanistan right we have troops all over the world the best people there incredible lead to a fantastic job. In yet we don't have troops to put on our.

All its -- nicely let me tell you -- cousin worked on the border. Really yeah and they had they arrested one by the Mexican that opened its bulk. And he said. Get their goal is the big what this country. So they can get it back they said that they stole we stole Mexico from them the five states whatever it will do anything we can't. Could bankrupt this country. And they are bankrupting the country. Because I caught that brought is that worked out and tell what you said. There -- covered over the border coming into the emergency rooms. And did shut down hospital because. The hospitals are getting paid the emergency -- so that we illegal immigrants. Yet it's that regular people walk the streets Iraq yet they have to wait while -- I think illegal immigrant that can you imagine that a citizen of the United States. In an emergency rule has the weight behind an illegal immigrant in an emergency rule. It's I believe.

Not only that you know I hated CA come up there in without wires to cross the so tell me that in the Mexican consulate in El Paso has regular programs -- seminars for. Mexicans who come over illegally. To tell them how to sign up for all the social services that there are entitled. And actually you know promote this so that it now that they can take advantage of the US government. -- it's quite open and official on the part of the Mexican government.

That is the Korea easiest thing when you think of that. Let's go to. Mike you knew that your next with Charlie Manning.

Hey Mike how are you today very well very quick to speak with viewing your guest. I've -- gave birth to. Be an expression in the old days. When nothing but give pulls up in America. That's slightly picking up almost -- take a minute might also speak or why do you look bad award to -- fixed so I think if we. Next thing I know we've moving into my -- rule it out completely clean underwear he can win. See what to have breakfast -- 82 legal -- bacon. There should absolutely get -- they can't.

what are I don't know he doesn't like -- Mikey wants a bagel come on get on this -- there.

Well again full would try I would be -- got to make him a bagel. Guy Greg Bechtel is what's the story is the way I look at it. The advocacy. For these people. Is absolutely. I think got whereas if you working Americans go to work everyday but the advocacy for this. Is -- out whether -- ACLU. Whether -- Barbara Boxer whether it's the Catholic Church whether it's yeah actually right. In other words the system drumbeat. For this behavior is so powerful there's nothing we can -- don't get -- to a did you build the film aside woman out and -- better and immigrant family because then that's never had never gonna struck out.

That's for sure Mike decks of the call as always we appreciate it let's grab a couple more while we still Jessica. Jim in Bedford New Hampshire next with Charlie Manning and Jessica -- of the Center for Immigration Studies.

I'm -- I'll tell you just can't. Why do you know why not quite you know among there -- other things about immigration in -- no they haven't offered. One thing you know -- wanted to know if you militarily. You know. I didn't gang hanging. When you look at I thought I'm good you know yeah yeah I love that show gang and we can all be all -- couldn't spooky. Yeah. -- do I'm we shouldn't -- in the country boy and I'll let go off and nothing I guess.

Jim Jim did you remember it was just a few weeks ago the president of Mexico came here. He gets a joint press conference with the president of the United States is names Obama may be your herded them in front on the White House lawn. He's been -- being the United States of America or in the Arizona law the president is they're not legal way. The next day he speaks to a joint session of congress. Any calls the Arizona law. Racial. Profiling. Yeah and give members the Democrats and in the congress all stand up and give them a standing ovation. Did did not only not stopping it this is what they what what is it it's the third largest Jessica. The money sent back from the United States by illegal immigrants here to their families in Mexico and lord knows they needed it support country. Is the third greatest source of revenue that the the entire country has right.

That's right that's right although I typically I -- Mexico have a lot of work people. But it is the country of enormous. Natural resource is wealthy you know profitable industries. Right people. That simply -- to keep all the wealth in just a few hands. And not provide opportunities for the.

I I feel differently we are well obviously I'm Paul again grill and when when we can't -- when they naked on the board and they appealed today. And I know what I mean then she ended the comeback to make money. So you guys did you guys we and I feel we know you know me god. Really don't go calling up President Obama might might be all black community organizer Obama this.

Yes that's for sure hate -- and called Jim more gonna take a break and I know just he got a million things going on today we really appreciate you coming on. Callers hang on the line gray can -- will finish up your calls at the top of the hour but we'll take a quick break now. But thanks so much and thank salt thank all the folks at the Center for Immigration Studies to this amazing video because I just think it tells the story so great.

While you're very welcome and I'm glad to hear that you think it's.

project. Then -- thought your listeners.

Have a good weekend will talk to you soon. Take care 61726666. Big.