Jill Stein For Governor

Of that Jill Stein here she is. Running for governor as a green rainbow candidate welcome Joe nice to have you here thanks so much good to be here Todd and Tom and this is just a second time around the tracks we've got the feeling of a campaign you know what the dynamics the highs and lows. What's what's it been like out there on the campaign trail willow tree this year field.

It's very exciting you know it's a really exciting time because. There is so much discontent out they're the natives are really really restless. They're not happy with where we've been going there is joblessness that does Steve Shire was just talking about. You know is really out there in the community people are feeling desperate even if they haven't lost their jobs yet. On the cost of health care is skyrocketing. Schools are struggling taxes are going up on working families who are already carrying more than their fair share so. People are really looking for a change -- world --

Jill -- designer who wants to address the they -- so we just got change heels can hurry hurry and -- right that's right how it is nothing -- or go without health care costs that's dry because we've universal -- Massachusetts and then we have a nationally what do you talk from us.

Yeah exactly people feel like they've been taken for a ride you know this was changed to believe -- but it wasn't change that we can actually accomplish and people feel like they worked. Hard for it they believed they got out there they pounded the pavement but. Once. Once the powers that be got into office say you know on the ground troops got kind of put on the shelf than. And now left in the dust what's the biggest disappointment that you have been Deval Patrick's now almost four years. Well truth to tell I didn't have great expectations to start with because I was kind of looking between the lines -- And between night and I was not persuaded that. That this was going to be over a real change on fondled and why are these are very liberal person while. Well. The yes and no I mean we've seen how liberal he is you know I think he's good on the liberal photo op. But he doesn't really deliver -- ordinary people you know we got health care system that. True it it has expanded health care to some -- inhabit but it's been on the backs of everybody else and it's created an absolutely. Unsustainable. Unworkable health care system which is in meltdown and it's breaking the back of the state budget and our municipal budgets and our worker -- by.

You're governor work and what would you be -- save your better than governor few -- bizarre of the Salem Massachusetts and we can get rid of the legislature which would be a big improvement we all -- you trust and -- what would you do crazy in terms of health.

Care you know I think there's a system out there which is working and it's being used in most developed countries. It's not only delivering for far less money about half of what we're paying now. But it's actually delivering a better product and people are much healthier live longer. Winter -- which model or -- British model well I know because the British model is a nationalized. Nationally managed health care system I don't think we're ready for that. Who took him out of Canadian model it's what we did with Medicare before they started messing with it it's a very low overhead. Low cost system. The administration cost about 3%. And what we're doing in in the US costs about 30% it's about one out of every three. Health care dollars is going to a paper pushing. Tracking of who gets what for how much honest interns -- what's your solution work series if not annually that are quickly this solution is to move to a Medicare for all plan. Within Massachusetts that can be done. And that actually is really easy to implement it could be implemented within the course of a year. And it greatly brings stomach cost of health care because administration goes from about 15%. 15% of the cost. Goes now into paper pushing -- bureaucracy it's really inefficient you can get rid of all that waste by just going to a single Payer system look as a doctor. I know of that so much of our health care provider time. Is spent tracking who gets what for which insurance you know we have hundreds.

You did make their point about the administrative costs but we hear from physicians hospitals others on a regular basis that. Neither of the two major government programs Medicaid or Medicare. Pay anywhere near the adequate rate and then there's a cost shift to the private sector -- a small businesses go ballistic I assure you he would actually had him -- positions say wait a minute he's given me. 62 cents on the dollar --

I have a lot of -- that Medicare has beaten Medicare has been broken it's been messed with so. We need to go back to where it was when it was paying adequate -- but actually we are paying right now. The cost of what it would require to have a Medicare for all system were already paying that. Through government plus we're paying a whole lot more so it's about 60% of our health care costs right now are already covered -- explains. So we can cut out the excess waste. And go back to a streamlined. Health care system with a low overhead and believe it or not the aggregate costs a whole lot less than what we have. Nobody is suffering more right now than small businesses I'm hearing this on the campaign trail all the time -- small businesses are being killed by the cost of health care. And no one would benefit more then going to a Medicare for all systems why.

We view I I understand. -- everybody's complaints with health care were all aware of what those are it seems to me those are. Are relatively easily fixed actually attacking them -- specific items rather than in this one of the -- I had with the whole health care debate we have last year it seems to me. That what that the Obama administration did with the Democrats in -- you're doing it's try to take a set of problems and say look how bad this is. Therefore we should do this over here without connecting the two it seems to me if health -- is too expensive. We can work to make it cheaper if there inefficiencies in the system of comp competition between different. But insurers are the various paperwork models they use that make administrative costs by we could try to regulate that better. Why do we kidnap the whole thing and try to make it into something totally new. Based on a set of problems well it's like semi how soon is too cold -- we don't insulated we knock it down to build a new one.

Yeah exactly remember that this. This problem is not coming out of nowhere and there's a whole history here. And at the state level we have been struggling with the cost of health care for decades. And Massachusetts is not the first one to have try -- Expand health care and cover everybody by adding more complexity. To this are really complex bureaucracy and it's been tried many times women like a -- and you mentioned tot he actually has been turn.

I don't know what everybody has tried it doesn't work the model has always been. How to we have more people on to it I. Rather than say how do we make it more affordable so everybody can pay for -- yeah.

Well we've we've tried all those things. And actually there's a good solution which has also been tried we need to look at what's out there.

We're not inventing this you know we're not like in -- only we'll hear -- we are in -- work because you know what works from our system is that the most creative brilliance.

Problems so and it's totally broken -- until Hillary is it broken the news not only the delivery to expand the system while except we still generate the best drugs the best medal in a victim medical innovation in the and all the -- and some of the worst health statistics that are out there remembers he says.

He's excited they are a lot of craft but yeah.

A lot of and violently of their -- but when you shall we say as there is with. Without hype about you know the best medicine's and the best procedures we are so over medicated. And so over procedure rise that this is a big part of the --

Another -- was serious the pro member of your family was seriously ill and needed by definition timely intervention. Could you know there's 36 other places in the world we would send you film and.

You know a lot of people are doing that right now. A lot of people are promoting her car is not sure had a falling out for cost around non interest for our costs for quality. Learn where people -- for better quality well you hear people going all over the place to -- to come -- now can you give -- some patterns to really -- Canada -- and even to South America the places you wouldn't dream but those -- costs driven -- whereas their quality direct cost and quality go hand in hand because if you can't afford my argument -- you lower the cost and we should be may involve project to lower the cost you know -- if you actually look at the record out -- what -- and physicians find this to. Because it's physicians actually support in Medicare for all system. As does the public -- find this over and over.

And because you get published hasn't -- trying I had taken out the table -- being devastated by the cost to Medicare they don't know that we're going bankrupt because -- Medicare as a nation there are lawyers so they say it's actually -- bankrupt because of the whole system do you know how much were paying in Massachusetts.

For health care altogether do you have any idea man there has been known to political response is you -- end video response and cost issue is exactly what you're proposing to -- once again they keep trying to solve it within the same system which is so dysfunctional and expensive. In fact. One out of every two tax dollars is going into the system -- yet know what -- actually got issues actually. There are lots of us that are attacked.

I had I just need who can invite people take part of the conversation doctor Jill Stein is here green rainbow candidate for governor. Your questions and comments are welcome 6172666868. Are text text message -- X 86 save in six agents are.

And and one of the biggest tragedies is that we're ignoring. The potential for prevention because. Out of our budget saying it's roughly twenty billion dollar budget it's fully fourteen billion dollars. That we are spending on this dysfunctional health care system. And it's not a health care system. It's a disease care system because we wait until people get sick. We know it's driving these chronic diseases news they and we also know of and you think we're learning more over the government as an -- at that moment and that's not what Medicare does it's a single insurer and it remains pride that we. Delivered health care what but Sony makes a decision that okay so we hardly know though the decision are now we want insurance companies that are making the decision now and then lacking I -- take care any help.

Actually Medicare is way less expensive than the incredible overhead he caught 30% better.

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Really felt we hear a lot of stories about Canada or industry got. Delays. Long long delays unacceptable to the American people deny and -- sir you don't have delay well -- denial of service Sarah and is now perhaps always get a very complete absence of investment which leads to the innovations in the innovation might be of pharmaceutical Biotech it might be.

And a media hype is so much time that's just a little -- so you can extend your patent. He'll look at what look at the outcome because that but that's what counts look at the outcome -- look at the health of people in Canada or or even some -- homogenous population that is not my original era where is not a -- by a million people -- you've been looking in Europe where there's not homogeneous populations and their two. Even in England for example. If you compare heart disease in England to heart disease here there -- doing way better than yeah.

Out they don't sound nearly as well as we do we cut and how. And you're getting a bit we're heading to Iowa win a whole lot to be a good morning robbery and W Tekzilla Jill -- I Robert. Hello -- it.

Oh hi hey you know I mean I'm really puzzled. You don't read -- our debates the other candidates. But you have heard that they -- didn't trust it seems like it's secure online. This seem like you're really not -- doing.

Her is she getting -- are you see live currency is this something you're not hearing.

Now there's a lot but I'm not here on your. Well I'd like to hear her positions are a variety of issues when you keep talking to a murder.

What we're trying to flesh out the issue whether you are out the issue here we'll try to do better John are we -- they talk about -- anything other than that I think it's gonna go great way to get it -- good morning. Good morning money surely.

Yes I have a question for -- You are a couple of questions. One of them -- I have. The the amount of information that makes its way out of this state house is little I'm becoming less volatile and we just can't find out what's going -- and as a hearing is that public sessions I mean there's nothing no debate going on in public. About all that decision but they're making. And there's also no information. About the cost the most efficient and nobody is putting out proposals list. Cost estimates that we know what the implications are going to be for the future you know all these policies and programs and packages.

Anything in particular stand out you sure.

Well all of these. -- corporate tax breaks for example they're supposed to be good trip there's not that if exposed could create job. Better economic development. In a little evidence that any of them actually have any effect.

There's a good question thank you for that. -- upgrade good point surely and I think those two things going hand in hand that when we have. Kind of a closed door government when things are going on. In the back rooms in the public doesn't know then you get all kinds of of policies that. Are really for the benefit of the public and for the you know they turn out to benefit the big. Campaign contributors and a lot of innocent but how you change and really upset when you see away I'll say absolutely there's so many -- obviously is to change at one. Is that we need an open meeting law and right we're gonna have to get that through the legislature the legislature's grade on open meetings when it comes to the municipalities. You know they really get it when somebody other than our own business that's out there so he thanks yeah exactly so easy we need to weigh in on the legislature passes comes just like anything.

Right or go to break let me let me -- in defense -- my -- legislative colleagues on on the on the corporate tax break. But of the movie tax credits movie production tax credit. A very robust. Public hearing. Very robust and lengthy public debate took college point surely I think it was that -- we never know what's gone on you go your great might be with the globe and herald. It happy with the way the legislature addressed that there was a big he's.

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Good morning welcome back to comment Zaire and AM 680 WRKO -- reminded kills nine. Green rainbow. Candidate for the gubernatorial. Well from to a -- but in the race for the governor she's with us here in the studio a continuation of gubernatorial debates and an explosion different candidate you can talk to -- Have by calling 617. 2666868. How all you can text assets 68680. And let's get right to the college when we go to Kerry Kerry you're on the air with Jill Stein and Todd fiber.

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Are so you're saying you think gambling would be a a cultural contradiction -- would hurt our brand as a state.

That's what I mean don't Cambridge mass could chew him out of Chicago being Andy eat or I don't. You could actually mattered and I quite content I don't know quarter -- and -- that's not being won't. And I think really. Question. What you know never really. We -- get they had not -- and you.

OK Arianna hold either so we have the so -- TI did you agility is irresponsible to get involved with casino gambling.

I agree I think casino gambling as a kind of a case in point of how are. Elected officials get serves induced buying by the big money and by the hype. And you know I think it's not only. Kind of a contradiction to a two -- our culture but. You know it's a real contradiction to our economy and I think it's a real shame the legislature went into this. Without you know having evaluated. What -- the downsize they they spent taxpayer money. To do these studies but they only looked at the upside they only looked at jobs would be created they did not look at. The jobs that we're going to be destroyed and actually when you do that you see that casinos. Tend to kill about one and a half jobs for every job that they create because they suck a lot of discretionary money. Out of the economy they're very hard on wellness and this -- So what kind of business might suffer -- restaurants. Cultural institutions. Entertainment's movie houses you name it and let's take a look at the data for example which is really the poster child of the casino economy what we have in -- we have now highest rated unemployment. We have five times the national average of foreclosures and we've got a humongous state debt that that exceeds even California -- If you look at the track record as well as those studies I mean you can forget the studies if you want just look at what happened in the states and abroad in casinos. They haven't solved the problem they tend to undermine the created dead zones they tend to create.

You indicated earlier than you -- fulfill hype with Deval Patrick for years ago you can read between the lines I think there's the -- years. Fat ugly little a lot of liberal progressive activists fell in love with to follow what are they saying now I'll vote Deval Patrick's embrace of casino gambling.

Enough I think it's it's demolished showing his true colors as he has shown for the past four years because. You know Shirley was talking about big corporate tax breaks we've seen a lot of our money given away. And we're cutting our schools were cutting local aid and police and fire and all that we haven't seen the -- get in there and fight for ordinary people. We're seeing now. You know the advantage go to those who already have advantage you know. We're we're not sing the right stuff -- of all and I think his leadership on casinos. Is is a case in point this really is not these aren't the jobs that we need. You know we were talking during break about the kind of jobs that we need we could be creating jobs in every community now a real bonanza of jobs green jobs. In renewable energy and conservation. And whether rising our homes and reconstruction in healthy local food. And act of transportation. We could be creating the jobs that not only put people who work but also which make us healthy.

And how we create those -- they are making me nervous because I'm imagining you are taken the budget. Putting -- near a little pond doling it out to people.

Well right now unfortunately we're doling out an awful lot has happened budget and for example or -- out 300 million dollars in the Raytheon infidelity tax breaks. Which were supposed to create thousands of jobs but those jobs didn't create get created and what happens in the way that works out time you may know is that. These little deals get made and then they get taken off budget. They get put into these economic development. Incentive packages and they're not reviewed and they're not looked at nearby here so we keep paying out U 30 really you never creator. Well number one what I would do is put all these deals back on the table 'cause they're off budget now. They're not being -- regular reviews once a year -- definitely look and and and -- surely was talking about how -- we cut the costs and cut the waste in government. We need to have an internal office and I will set this up as governor an office of management and budget and OND -- like what the what we have at the federal level so that your reviewing legislation before it gets voted on -- to find out. What are the costs and is it gonna deliver isn't gonna create jobs and how many is it gonna create and then you follow up so the first thing now due to save money -- actually has put those deals. Back on the table so we can look at them and see where we are throwing away taxpayer dollars.

When this healing -- CEO early Raytheon comes in and employs several thousand people -- Massachusetts from the CEO comes in it's his madam governor his my big problem. I'm rated high up. I can't find enough mathematicians and scientists actually our engineers in Massachusetts that had -- been on actually I'd I wouldn't say hiring binge but they've been on -- hiring pace Raytheon has spent. And -- frustration voiced by the as CEO and everybody else's. We had desperately looking for qualified. Trained people.

And that's exactly why we need to use our money efficiently and wisely and haven't publicly scrutinized because when where. Shutting off one point seven billion right now. In these so called economic development tax rates we need to see are they really creating just as if they're not. We need that money in our schools and our schools are failing not only. Because. We have problems in the school blowing up from outside of the schools and of kids are being malnourished. And badly -- and and they're breathing in sickened dirty air almost think that makes it very hard. To educate kids who are fundamentally -- so that gets back to why we need to use our dollars. Why is -- not he's throwing them away on sweetheart deals. Put them back into making us healthy and creating jobs so to answer your questions specifically -- right now. You've probably heard the governor wants to spend 200 million dollars. Building shopping malls and office parks he wants to basically do these giveaways he once again nine million dollars. Two Robert Kraft so he can build a bridge in connect his private businesses. I mean there all kinds of things that the governor has proposed doing he's got this money sitting there for economic development. We need to look good and hard at what his economic development I'd like to create. A revolving zero interest loan fund. To get those small businesses up and running and to jump start them. In energy conservation and not efficiency in healthy food and so on. And that the same time you know by making health care more cost efficient. Taking the bureaucracy and red tape on that we can cut at least 10%. All the cost of health care so I think we can do much more with much less and not get healthier at the same time.

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And I thank him for example of how quickly -- sign none I'm excited about this. -- I've been really concerned about mutation and our food. And I and I've read recently reported dead. You with the principal investigator I'm looking at. LT eight king and based -- management in our -- and I am wondering. You know given that you grammatical -- What can -- be doing in terms of nutrition and cut that back. Impact our agriculture an anyways locally.

Great question Nancy and I think this is one of those wonderful wind winds that's just waiting. To be implemented because. The ever cultures section on our economy. Is actually growing like gangbusters right now there are farms and farmers markets springing up all over the place and people are loving this food fresh. Fresh local food tastes so much better it looks better and people feel better when they're eating more -- that. And so we can expand that sector of the economy. That's the same time that we're getting healthier. And this is what I was starting to have referred to before we could take at 200 million. That the governor wants to spend on shopping malls and parking lots you know and it's not like people are going to shopping malls right now because we don't really have the money to spend. And -- high vacancy rates this is not job creation but we could put that money into creating more. Farmers' markets more of these so called community supported agriculture. And bring healthy food to every community we could and do more. To connect our schools farm to school programs farm the hospital programs in fact which is a big thing in some areas of the country. And farm to health care center to.

Loses in locating the farms at the hospital or at the school is amount that's a possibility although the main point that evil done yeah that's -- here. You we have one of those and landed. Otherwise what's these fires behind -- you know it's infested with rats how tough a court decision that that's that's. Charles stylus. Yeah full of -- annual take your pellet gun and tell your -- era don't -- that grant okay. I gave up -- good morning did ER WRQ would Jill Stein. Hello my -- and go ahead you're on the FI.

I was darn -- it's it's it's there are a breath of fresh air to hear Jill talking about issues that really matter to people. And it's it's kind of interesting I'm. I think I appropriation second you're actually letting her talking out because. -- a couple of minutes earlier in the program you just -- letter.

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I comment on hi -- yeah by John in regard to US healthcare you know typically the argument. To blur the distinction US healthcare is always made using a life expectancy heart disease statistics to try to buttress the argument. Where external factors are really we're gonna play a lot when you look at those that there -- statistics. Which you know what what is really bothers -- you 80 AM hey can I would have five year. Survival study for breast cancer and for prostate cancer and they compared to great Britain and Canada. And the lance said and the Canadian health ministry didn't disputed. The statistics are dark. When it comes to prostate cancer survival. In Great Britain notified your study who is 680%. Worse -- US. And it cannot say with a 184%. Worse well breast cancer survival the rates are closer. If doctors signed into art studies there really speak to delivery in the quality of US healthcare when you have daughters like I do. You get chill a little upset to see you making those arguments about life expectancy in heart disease departures. Your case to the US healthcare system is not much better than other developing nation.

Well it's not just my a conclusion and you know and I don't think you can just look at one study I'm not familiar with that study. That you've pointed to and you know.

W -- the heart disease and how much better they do there and he's offering in and inverse argument that. Well you could it go.

Before any here right -- right which is why you need to look at lots of studies and need to. Compare lots of countries to each other and over and over again when we look at. Infant mortality good -- in Greece for example. The US has five times the infant mortality of Greece which is on the verge of bankruptcy. So what I'm saying is that there's a lot that we can do not only in our health care system. But also in prevention and the kinds of things we're talking about about eating healthy food about keeping chemicals out of far. Food supply in our consumer products and out of our air for God's goodness -- I mean we know now more and more. Medical science is clinging to air pollution and such critical factor -- not only for lung disease but for heart disease for asthma even for Diane B.

I was gonna say solitary can do let's talk more about doctor Jill Stein is here green rainbow -- for governor it's Simon -- succeeding WRKO. WRKO here's your chance to meet Laura Ingram Thursday July 15 doing a big event. When -- is WR gives you some inside Jill Stein is here candidates for. So what do you think your chances when I see you see some must work out there -- Resonate with people in an explosion of support can come -- has a lot of desire for change in the exact -- and I think people feel like.

The governor -- the treasurer and the former head of financial affairs you know is not exactly changed so. I think you know my voice needs to be there needs to be in the debate. And let's see where it goes. You know I think all bets are off who would have expected that Scott Brown. You know four months before the election was gonna win or look at Nikki Haley and South Carolina who just won the ever -- angle in Nevada yeah -- amazing Nikki Haley was at the bottom of the four person heap in single digits until just a few notion.

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Let's get chills answer good question Jan thank you.

Well said Chan and I was sitting here just nodding my head in agreement able to understand her because if you wanna go pay more whole foods you can get or again exception. It's exactly the point so that's why so we have the option that's why we need to have the right. But we're getting incredible subsidies for all the bad stuff that's where our tax dollars are going to court ends up so producers at the sugar and the sugar goes so sinister on the national level goes throughout the federal level that -- governor has nothing right where there's a lot we can do it to change that. Simply by supporting the development of our local farming economy and we can make that fresh. Healthy food available and -- is exactly right that has so much to do with our health I could quote studies for you where people with heart attacks. In he intensive care unit. Are randomized and and and input on. Either a whole food healthy fresh food diet or kind of your standard medical diet and the whole. Fresh fruit diet which we technically call Mediterranean. They get to -- of vague they get better so much faster and in fact it's competitive with any pill you could put them on. And it cost much less it doesn't have side effects.

And it grows our economy and job we're out of time financially who you come back and see -- again soon I was left.

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