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Calling in at 61726668. Succeed in Texas that 68681. Off today Robert Gibbs. Gets asked about the Obama presidency. And he's asked if the presidency has fallen short in anyway.

As your broader question that I -- in the opener and I think you should have an opportunity respond to which is. On a lot of the issues that you face right now from the oil -- to the economy to the -- Afghanistan is the president and his team falling short war. Are we in a situation where expectations were set too hot and that's a good question. Look I think it either either one of these things the timeframe upon what the time for a -- war in Afghanistan we've been in Afghanistan for almost ten years. The president has obviously added a number of new troops. Both the beginning of 2009 and certainly last winter and those troops are coming in. But this is always gonna take some time we knew it was gonna take some time.

We're kind of bogus question is that not only has have fallen short what CSAs this presidential spokesman. He's gonna dodge that question now though Robert Gibbs gets nasty real question. Finally for.

issue a little bit easier to pin you down. And that would be another showdown. Potentially with the project. I don't know if you heard a LeBron James is going to the Miami Heat he's leaving Cleveland I have heard yet what is it what does that -- when he spoke -- ESPN on Thursday this is what is it about the president's game. Okay said I think President Obama would hold his own if they went one on one I've seen him shoot the ball he's a lefty to. You know pretty much all lefties can shoot might we see one on one showdown at the White House since after all. James disappointed the president missing by not punishment -- he disappointed. People in Ohio discipline people in Chicago. Look I. I can only imagine if the president had an opportunity to play against LeBron James he would take it.

What a pathetic. What a pathetic thing. Then it gives an asset and then gives couldn't do anything with -- he spent the next minute. Would this round about nonsense. To get himself out of the question that was. It did demonstrated how that's how carefully scripted these guys are there when they get ask a question that's off topic they don't know what to say. That's Revver gives with the really poor showing on Sunday shows yesterday. David Axelrod did a number of the shows yesterday he was asked about immigration policy Obama's immigration policy.

But no administration has been tougher on enforcement. -- and in the administration's gonna have to employers away we have -- broken the law by hiring these fellow workers and mr. Axelrod it. -- there are some facts which seem to contradict what you just said about how tough the administration has been let's put him up on the screen. The president recently announced he's sending 12100 more National Guard troops to the one that's less than one that's. Soldier. Per mile. And you have frozen spending on a virtual fence pending a review in fact let's drive drive your new Homeland Security budget actually cuts spending. For border enforcement Chris we have more manpower there than ever before more equipment drones helicopters airplanes. We're we're doing this and a smart and more efficient. Where we're producing better results and of.

What does that all about that pronunciation helicoptered here that cooks he did this again I don't think this he said it again he said twice he called -- helicopters. But. This is how the evil ones work. Did you hear what he his answer is on immigration. He says nobody's been tougher than us and this is the game they play so they they have there are certain policies. Okay there are now more troops on the border than the reverend before. That apparently more people have been deported. Over. The first year -- the Obama administration and similar period with the bush I guess last year the Bush Administration they look for these little places. Where they can pretend to care about the -- where they can pretend to be doing a good job so that they can make the argument -- us. That on immigration what are you talking about when we know. They're doing the best they can to undermine the ability in this country to do -- they are deliberately. Allowing anarchy on the border and anarchy on the immigration in the country why are they doing that. Why. Because. They wants. There to beat an incentive. To be talking about immigration reform. They want to our problem. So that they can keep letting illegals -- in the country but they can keep parading around. Tweaking their base at how loyal they are to their base. By being good on the immigration issue when in fact they're creating all the problems. Okay so we're going to. There are a race relations discussion now that day it started a couple weeks ago with the resurfacing of a tape of say. A guy well need to. That there's the situation with the the black Panthers the members of the new Black Panther Party. You've seen the video of them standing in front of a polling place a couple of years ago one in the with a Billy club. That has resurfaced. Couldn't speak because of the Justice Department letting them off the hawk as well as video from the black Panthers. With the blatantly racist hateful ugly Janice I -- comments let's -- a little background first.

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Okay that is one of the loving compassionate Democrats. Who is a member of the new Black Panther Party now listen to Malik Zulu. Shabazz is doing an area with Geraldo Rivera. And talking about that guys and that guy's comments and about his goals for better race relations in this country.

But -- about -- it came back so -- what they're white candidate -- about black baby that's really what about white -- I don't know I don't -- it is that he did not -- crazy -- are you gonna let -- tell -- it's pretty well let me -- I say that in that instance he did not speak on behalf of the organization. But don't act like white suffering. Is equal to blacks suffer Obama white people are you know the language the language is different because white people haven't been in slavery fuel and -- about black -- burning out -- talk about killer might believe this enterprise. I want to know. Well I -- our -- say that I that is not my position I'm interested in raising. The black babies in the black so what exactly so you let that man that man is still your friend he still your brother and he talks about smash into the white babies. -- sir I've told you -- global positioning and our organization does not condone. What do you say but I'm still here to tell you that there is suffering in rage and anger in the black community if stingy and I'd pick -- you can I'm not absolutely IRA you can not in that -- are in their photos without my 500.

United it was a really fun debate to listen to. Because personally see that the hatred and nastiness. Of the new black Panthers in their leadership Basel when he has to say but you bomb. You also get to here are some of these. Totally disingenuous. And phony intellectual arguments the Democrats put forward about. The superiority. Of the suffering of certain groups of people because of their historical suffering -- I don't deny. That blacks are worse off in this country. Because of what government policies due to them but those are the government policies that are pursued and support and and fought for by liberals by Democrats. Who use every kind of disingenuous. Phony race -- they can to act like they're the superior ones here and -- and the most. Intellectually corrupt argument of all is to suggest that somehow black suffering. Is different than white suffering that blacks suffering. Has some superior moral ground because of some things that went on in this country a couple hundred years ago over the -- boy is everybody's pain. Is the same pain. And the problem that. Anybody fighting for better black rights in this country should have is with the Democratic Party that wholesome and perpetual. Poverty that's my take on her all of that good debate though it's I I've got to posted a real clear thinker -- com. If you'd like to hear. Okay let's get to. Let's get back into well a little constitutional argument you've heard it before but it's important to bring Barack Obama back to you again. Like you know it's kind of thing everybody should be revisiting -- Great Gatsby and to just get -- that this is. Barack Obama's problem with the US constitution.

But the Supreme Court never ventured into the issues of redistribution of wealth. And served more basic issues of political and and and the economic justice in the society. And to bed -- as radical as I think people trying to characterize the Warren court. It wasn't that radical it it didn't break free from the essential constraints that were placed. By the founding fathers in the constitution steadily since it's been interpreted and more important to remove in the same way that. The generally the constitution -- a charter of negative liberties. Says what the states can't do to you. So as what the federal government can't do to you but it doesn't say what the federal government or the state government must do on your behalf. And that hasn't shifted more of them I think. The tragedies of the civil rights movement was. Because of the civil rights movement became so court focused. I think for there was a tendency to lose. Track of the political and community organizing. And activities on the ground that are able to put together the actual coalitions of power through which.

so so he's basically this is seminary years ago. I did doing an interview with a public radio station in the remarkable thing about this -- along with the fact. That Obama is saying essentially doesn't believe in the US constitution he's making the argument that the Warren court during the civil rights era should have used that opportunity kidnap the constitution. And start -- nineteen people and results this goes much further than reparations. He's talking about a permanent change of the social structure. In order to win grand -- financial -- those who have been the underclass and that's what he's after. Now.

Customs and almost blind spot and Arizona.

In the fundamental flaw in Obama's eyes is that it's a country that's based on. -- giving everybody the right to go on and pursue their own lives. Unmolested by an oppressive government okay he rejects that he wants instead. A bigger more repressive government. It taking from those who are productive and giving to those who have historically been held down or who fail. And this is the great tragedy of the Obama years why it's important to the -- everybody near the Oval Office even on up toward the White House. Forget about. That he and his radical friends. Are at the controls of power in this country it's an enormous tragedy. The extent of which I think is just beginning to penetrate the consciousness of the country and that's why this November hopefully will be soon enough for -- people have caught on. For it to be what I would call a transformative. Election. Our web gem. Number last. Here's a sound from this weekend we set our guy out and he got sound -- talking with. The protesters who were following Jan Brewer around the governor of Arizona who was in town for the National Governors Association conference.

I'm not in favor of all working people from being having maximum freedom to signal. Your good life for themselves and -- constrained by national borders and boundaries I think national borders and boundaries basically are things that are. They're used in the interest of ruling class and interest. -- reason businesses. Via Hawaii here at. I think. I really dangerous trends in this country because I'm. It's basically criminalizing an entire people and we have to stand in solidarity with all immigrants. Illegal immigration -- the problem. I think there's some issues. -- never had the same time I think for the most part immigrants are just trying trying to find better lives and their families and they're trying to find work they also pay taxes and support systems so I have no problem with -- the federal government is suing Arizona out cold for the fact it is and give. It's made its own immigration policy are you okay what this is definitely the constitution says that the federal government is the only. Part of the government that can enforce immigration laws which you also want to see them pressing charges on -- Tracy. Also have their own immigration -- No I mean I think that. We need to be consolidated immigrants.

Priorities think about that 61726668. Succeed that is the liberal fielder and I would ask you to do it. -- try imagining. All the people sharing all world can you see some way that this works and the philosophy of their -- and it's. Why.

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There is the -- that liberals are running then. Hey you know its interest and think about what if but as we talk live philosophy of the socialist who protests in other comments say the our goal should be. Really this past weekend we know there have to -- quarters. But can we get rid of them as much as possible but can we make their free movement of workers from. From one country to the next is easy as possible. And I. -- trouble imagining and I think you. I don't think there be any more -- you take another day. Right killed John Lennon. And.

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We do wanna join that I you know what it felt like it felt like a college kid and at -- Just all that's what you're doing it on your parents are involved you know what no no real world -- And it'll -- you know 40% of their paycheck go to illegal immigrants -- beat them and how that. You know they have a different view about.

I agree -- you but when I'm asking you to do is fully internalized the law of the John Lennon was feeling and seeing if there's some way to apply it. To this conversation.

Absolutely no -- you know it's nice to allegedly like that's it that's not double world war. And play in our own children these -- college in. You know supporting themselves you know they're not gonna know that all the world. -- capitalism. Jerry Lee chapel at home we seeing home and we need jobs and we don't have CEO we don't have industry and we don't have jobs.

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I -- I immediately I can -- I can't have balanced budget in -- that we orders and out there that don't. I'm just sick and tired other people that don't let these people are they can -- you. And why they are legally. It can't make actress.

I like generated may be rewriting the song you know doing a new imagine imagine there is no deficit. It isn't hard to do Mike here next with Tom and Todd good morning Mike.

Good morning. IGoogle and what better not political views you just basically say somebody like way out in what still back. Just a fairway and if you played so I didn't really saying that the conservative used to wound up all the immigrants and exterminate. That's not the conservative.

Yeah I haven't heard what you I have an attorney John I haven't heard any sign suggesting -- your suggestion would be the conservative view but. We're we're do you think it's off because I'm not trying to be no literally newest hero.

And you think liberal dearly if they're Democrats really want to open up the -- and just. Let our borders be continuous -- Mexico.

I think -- where we're I think on a spiritual level that's what drives. The policy proposals. Are telling you don't tell me I know that what I just said is not true I said. Because I believe that to be the case I think. That there's a whole generation of people running around. With that is the ideal that -- John Lennon has proposed the ideal if it is not the ideal tell me where that song is wrong.

Bet bet well what how that final fight to live. -- your -- know what the Democrats. You have proposal is just the illegal immigration and you're playing a song that says break down all political. Ordered by the -- post split by the end where the connect.

the connection is here Mike we are playing some cuts from those who were protesting. The appearance of the Arizona governor in Massachusetts. And it's talking about what they think policy should be in this country and we have your brother and I'll they're talking about how we really should let workers go anywhere they want in the world to get a job at -- we get -- of the evil corporations. This is not an unrepresented. View in the Democratic Party.

But get -- that you're playing these clips of people are way out an extreme like the RO. World and I you could do the same thing with conservatives.

and -- and -- every effort. Here's the minute I don't I I don't believe tribal areas this is what Barack Obama believes I think it's what Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid would fight for.

Not because it -- to fundamentally disagree with -- and the problem is that I think I'm I think I'm probably. Quite far left of you but I would never go around saying the conservatives hate immigrants -- watch them all just imported beer and don't want it. I wouldn't say that because it's not true and it just -- trying to. Very political very divisive and very ignorant.

Well let's talk divisive first -- Mike how mode the federal government suing the state of Arizona for having a law that since that supports the federal law. Is that divisive.

Well there's so there. There's third filing a lawsuit for very specific thing that they can't infringe upon laws made by a -- beat that.

The state and no it is not infringing it is matching it is so boring it is not here anyway infringing.

They're basically saying that you can't have stayed going around making their own immigration -- that the federal issue that does nothing really long without. I mean I understand what you're saying about years.

Or what -- say -- I -- I like -- can you hold on 'cause I wanna continue this conversation with you -- we have to take a news breaks. During a few minutes all right Michael Michael continuing will continue our conversation. Come out so whether him.

Action is an accurate representation of the liberal viewpoint and whether it's device overnight. To behave the way the president United States and his politicized justice confirmed has been giving right now 6172666860. Tom and Todd 680 WRKO. Six AB WRK okay. Thomas Todd saw me taken no long weekend not a bad idea. So it's a -- freed Monday. In about a half hour Charlie Charlie Baker Republican for governor will be here so live your line up your questions and challenge.

To him on his candidacy. Are we were talking when Mike before -- in the news break about diet to have played the song imagine from John Lennon which I consider the to be these virtual template for liberalism and might challenge me on that and said it's a free NG thing that doesn't have bear any resemblance to mainstream liberal thought. And I forget where you were Mike in your comments and do you have a point one America.

Well actually I do what I think one other point about with the people's view on illegal immigration -- what it cost -- like I'm against illegal immigration because it's illegal and anything that's illegal I'm not gonna be supported just like anybody -- in the Democratic Party what they think bank. Yellow color staying out all our economic problem our our. -- get all -- deficit it all because of illegal immigration. And yet I cannot be removed from the true then it's really not an issue which can happen opinion not and Eric question.

Why I've not heard anyone propose that there are there are people who said. That. That that's budget deficits in certain areas might be cleared up if there weren't an illegal emerge certainly. If 31 year thirty million illegal immigrants in the country. Them not being here working would get rid of the unemployment issue we have there are big problems that it contributes to the good it did the burden on our health care system is enormous. The burden on -- education is incredible because of illegal immigration. A bit but I ever heard anyone make the sweeping claims that you just repeated.

Well you you have -- you have -- pre college just this morning who keeps saying that. So what we don't have jobs that it -- our economy all this isn't illegal immigration to limit the immigration. And you know it's really just not true and you're a woman thing illegal -- don't pay -- it's not true not true they get paid back with Intel backed up and told them you get jobs. Illegal again I'm not supporting illegal aspect of it but they do so -- getting goes straight numbers and they -- pay taxes but they don't actually collect any of the Senate that afterward. Don't you know I think when most economists actually look at that they would not they're illegal immigrants are a bird into the economy -- Many people would say there actually is helpful to the economy tank and I am not so.

We don't know I don't know I would disagree with the premise I think there are certain pockets of places where you can see that it's positive but. I don't think that outweighs all of the negatives that are just enormous. Going back from what you said which is it's illegal it should be stopped we should be a nation of laws. And really that's the beginning in the end of the conversation and if there is an economic benefit to be provided to us by having more people migrating here. Then we should have decisions about who they are where they should come from. And we should move -- from the Arab.

I couldn't really -- the problem is that attitude of some of the then you can hear it in the color in at all about oh they're ruining everything and it's just simply not true there are. Three over 200 million people in the country and there are about fifteen million illegal -- long enough -- even work they could be --

Oh sure well the -- the Democrats claim their eleven or twelve million here illegally so it's more likely that the numbers thirty. And that would represent 10% of the population to say -- To say that that doesn't represent an incredible. Burden on a lot of different levels is just -- we've got John we're putting on the air with you Mike hi John what do you wanna set.

Good morning gentlemen all right good -- like it not. About Bob about perfect you know the people with art in children in -- state and smile it's about the act.

It's about coming into the country. Illegally -- act. That fact is apt to be -- there's no panacea to it by giving people amnesty and -- what it didn't drag on the economy that must certainly not --

or all of our deficit but not responsible for Obama -- so they. They rebel enough all of its.

Okay I mean you're not making any effect it's the -- keeps saying that here again -- illegal immigration because it's illegal. Okay let's start it that.

Even that there's nobody argued I don't Democrat not -- but no nobody argues that illegal immigration. Is that -- illegal aspect of it -- stop fighting or arguing. Something that has no debate on the other side.

Made on the other side is not spoken they simply refuse to uphold the --

So now that such computers to question this is just. Stopping the illegal immigration and the next question okay now we have all these people here what we do without actually distinct separate question. On the first one there is no debate me or you arguing it.

All they know the only debate the actions and policies that the federal government is now suing Arizona. For passing very reasonable laws that coincide with federal law instead they should be supporting not fighting John and all Iran with Mike good morning John.

Mike I get checked out understand there are right.

They're not paying taxes are reaping the benefits they're spending their money back home and buy into three I was have been burned itself. They're not putting -- back into the economy there working on the one million pay taxes. And that collecting welfare.

I'm not -- not all of them but a good percentage of them well you can wake up you can establish some of the regular media jet there it -- the.

And this is not something. Actually. -- opinion about this is actually actually pure data kind of -- just because you've heard some story about one. The big gains in most. Will be economic aid and I have read. Basically show that ought to hold there is no it actually Alter the economy all the reasons I bet they do great actor they'll back it. Think you pay Social Security taxes even though they don't get the benefits polish and -- back big dirt they are killing a certain level of job that is required sort of the fact of the matter is the economy perspective there really is very little evidence that actually.

Radar I gotta read totally disarray I've never seen a study that actually took all the factors set in the consideration so send me when you got my -- everywhere WRQ what might hijack.

Water cop followed this -- maker of all -- they can don't have time parse all each worked Ritchie oh look in boats. The Democrats would be so against this it would be disgusting second all I wrote checked out of salt salt these guys are such hypocrites. Against the -- filing and all that's one simple English century's first Sanctuary City parking lot so.

Absolutely know that and that is a confession I think that. Did that -- they have one goal and that is to pander. Two who their most important voters are. And that is a minorities and illegal immigrants coming in from all the countries I mean I that that to me seems a clear attempt play might do disagree.

A I think argument of the -- the Democratic Party it's going to allow illegal immigration because they are building a voter base. Still I think you're you're gonna hear a lot of people on the Republican Party notorious strategist and what not saying that Hispanics are essentially. Essentially conservative voters they are very essentially they -- don't believe in abortion and they have the family values of the Hispanic back Rex that you argue that -- that you could argue that on both -- I am not social work. I am not a conspiracy there it.

I don't know I think it -- 74%. I believe that they Hispanics go into Barack Obama last time and I think will go to. Whatever group of people against the bribes in the pandering that Democrats are our frank Billy RN WRQ what Mike I -- Right.

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Are you familiar with Lawrence Massachusetts. I am thirteen million dollars. We the citizens of Massachusetts. Have pumped into a warrant yet it still laying off 24 fire fighter --

Bill we already cover 70% of their budget almost a 100% higher education by --

I can't I can't get it going into a warrant after midnight. In wonder what country you -- I don't really understand your play I -- probably got another I don't. You know you're the only legal director our strategy is very high it's probably in the know all if you're --

And -- I call these gateway cities they are allowed -- points we're not a right to know because we're not allowed to know one person directed. That their status.

That's cute they were all legal which which you'd still be upset because -- not the other not at all -- cost I don't understand how you know they're legal status which it's totally not allowed ignored it doesn't. You know it's almost completely calm when it wanted to see Kate. Comes up and it finally -- how we finally get noticed status and it's amazing the number of times they are legal -- and just just just you know with all due respect. Who really cares about your neighborhood we're trying to let the country -- I'm excited -- we believe it's important that you attitude of -- your exact attitude. Yeah I thought I I can't put a I care more about the country in my personal individuals. Are more problems yeah.

City I'm saying Lawrence is a good example. On the policy is that our pursuit in this country by Democrats there in fact these cities like all in Lawrence in Fall River New Bedford. Are designed to be places that holding tanks. For people coming into the country illegally silly can be put on social services and they can become democratic voters that's just how works. How how what are the democratic George W argue with my thing LSU Georgia site.

I of course until Magellan which really troubles me -- say that illegally. You saw Everett that you will come into this country and you're not the drain on the system I would have become our hospital. Any -- the very. And I would basically go full list of people it intro you Kuwait food here illegally. And then help me with the proper grain -- a -- all you talk a ball what percentage I would argue.

Well and it's actually -- of the strategy probably also reported -- 30% for the sake of better life. And Ebert overlooked -- basically urgent air. I have a toothache. A warning goes to accept the yet again I -- guilty your individual the word Israel at all religious thing and I'll bet how many dollars we spend in this country on health -- and what we're.

thought my my. -- I say you amber is my credit the number one hey dad to approve the disaster that illegal immigration is for this country. Is not generated. Because that would be counter to the Democrats schools Mike Hsu M aligned hooks you wanna see your contact information so we knew more this. Thank you for the call once again.