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And good afternoon to you. First afternoon somewhere that we actually been here. We have weather proof that this is on the Nelson welcome to the program. Phone number 6172666868. That's how. We like -- join in the conversation expression of views on the important issues of today. Email address Kane Nelson at wrko.com. And we do well look at all the emails and try to get as many as we can on the air shall. We appreciate your input is that's what this programmers all of well I thought we ought to start where is the whole question about general McChrystal.

He was as you know fired by Barack Obama. And I was amazed that there was shoulder she didn't show little support. For McChrystal or that is to say -- in with a Obama. Rasmussen had a poll. Just came out yesterday. 47%. Of US voters agree. That was appropriate for President Obama to fire. Crucial 36%. Disagree. And arrestor. No in between -- Russia I guess some with a 36%.

And it's not because. Hi tech question and he is right to do a door that could afford to crystal said was. Ridiculous she's an asinine it was foolish of him to. To make those comments Jewish even more foolish. For him to allow our reporter for Rolling Stone on -- place is a reporter committed. Two undercutting establishment it was foolish of general McChrystal. -- allowed to have to be filed to allow this reported to follow him McChrystal around. But said. It wasn't the worst thing in the world we've ever heard.

He -- disagreement on policy. He didn't criticize. -- that interest to criticize a bomb in terms of direction travel. He didn't say anything about that somehow the civilian control of the -- military is. Not good -- Russian interest in numbers on that in a moment didn't show any of those things what is set. He crouched. That Obama I'd the first meeting seemed intimidated and was ill prepared I was on prepared. -- get over taken to the woodshed understood. But to fire him over that c'mon you're I think happened I think Barack Obama. Has gotten stung by the fact that he's done a terrible job with the BP oil spill. He's not been able to function effectively as an executive. And of course the cleanup which is the area of responsibility where he could exerted some authority that's been going abysmally. And so he had to had to do something hit a Charlize a tough guy remember is vulgar remark he's gonna kick hitting you in the canyon kick. Well so here it is written crystal crystal takes the fall fort.

Now Marc Stein had a very interesting column.

He points out that Stanley McChrystal is a liberal who voted for Obama. And ban Fox News from his headquarters TV.

Which according to Stein they may explain partly. How he became the first US general to be lost in combat while giving an interview to Rolling Stone.

Many points out -- the management of PP. Of course they're unable to vote for Obama. Yes stands now we'll get to the illegal immigrants later. But they have a marketing campaign where they have signed on to everything every every bush or Stein -- it every moderation Ostrom of the eco left. Nonetheless she would've been -- If the president hadn't been able to be above it all and not had to -- McChrystal for comments that I think we're now. You know not just not doesn't look it. Here's a guy and tremendous pressure he and his staff for their commissioning bodies home in caskets every day who doesn't grouse about the boss. Good heavens if it comes to that where nobody can ever say anything about one supervisor. Mike can have too many people left in the office. Which conditioning though. About the question of civilian control of the military. And so we will try to make it sound like -- had a majority authority. -- crystal wasn't challenging that but Rasmussen poll that just came today just for four -- coming in to do the program are sought. And it's remarkable to me hunter who CL you'll react like -- of producers and I got a split decision on it. 28 percentage of likely voters shows the political implications of this 48% think it's a bad idea. To have civilians with a final say over military leaders.

Only 44%. Think civilian control of the military is good for the country. The rest are undecided. I found that remarkable I would've thought there was overwhelming support. For civilian control of the military it is of course one of the founding principles. Of this republic. And yet only 44%. Think it's a good idea. Now -- Fletcher welcome. So that's where we begin today if you're just joining us good afternoon I'm on Nelson the phone number 6172666868. The email address -- Nelson at wrko.com. Of course now the president is appointed David Petraeus. Now he's a big fan of David Petraeus but he wasn't quite so much of a fan when he was in the Senate. And -- more on that in a moment let's go to the lines we go first to mark good afternoon mark you are the ice breaker on a warm summer afternoon thanks for college.

Demo on it thank you taking -- call. Just in my arm I think it's pretty significant people keep saying that. Obama fired this guy but he he would be candidate surrogate -- resignation over there might not.

Got a though you're right he did he did tender his resignation which was appropriate by the way I think Obama should refuse to accept the resignation that. Look you're right we can phrase this -- way we want but I.

After the show that does that -- Obama not haven't got the fire at the site. They're making it out on the golf so the thought instead of just saying that you're done.

Well I don't I don't know whether it came to that or the McChrystal when this thing became an enormous story. I don't know whether he just realized that he had to he had to tender your resignation actually appropriate thing to do and I think it was. I think it was appropriate for him to say. I'm I'm I'm not an -- my resignation. And I think the president should have had a private conversation. Where he. He took out that the spanking -- or whatever. And then should've said no but in general McChrystal has been doing a terrific job which he's strategy that I'm following. And so we're gonna keep them inflation could phrase that we're diplomatically more elegantly. And I just did but I think that's what should that happen. Thanks for calling. They know not every time so -- can commissioning a transgression. Is there grounds for taking the ultimate course of action. In fact in this article that I mentioned about -- according to hill corn and marched nine.

The White House page that say that would anger depression and most about the Rolling Stone piece. Why is -- McChrystal aide saying that McChrystal had thought that Obama was not engaged when they first met last year those last words ring quote. A McChrystal aides saying what McChrystal fought that they weren't engaged that he wasn't engaged. Our site which a year and a half ago. That's why you get cylinder. He has been scanned. I'm sure there I'm changing my opinion. Of Barack Obama. I like many others thought that this kind boy there's a high opinion of himself. He's arrogant he's always popping you know -- there was -- talking even during the campaign. And now and Annette and the screen skin part of it well none begin to change a little bit you remember how when we were kids. There always be some kid more than one maybe. Who. Who would always be boasting and bragging about himself and his exploits. And pretty soon we all realize that he didn't suffer from a superiority complex he suffered from an inferiority complex. And he had to continually tell everybody how good he was Stuart to bolster his his own self esteem didn't convince the rest of us. But he trust. When we -- to wonder whether maybe that's Barack Obama's problem. He's very thin -- Considering somebody's political life you know them -- sometimes get pretty sharp in political life. But this president reacts angrily gets angry cable news gets angry young people on fox. Unusual for press and look at look at what George Bush has had to put up within -- you don't hear him reacting that way. There are certainly on a grand juror nobility the sophistication Mr. Bush to come with the office. Obama doesn't seem to have been at least as far as comments about him and then there is the constant this sort of communication that. That transmission and I can walk on water. There's been less of that since the BP oil spill is on the water but nonetheless. Some you do wonder whether maybe Barack Obama suffers from the opposite of what we thought. I don't mean to generate sympathy and I -- know wanna generate -- form but I wonder whether maybe that's his problem. 617266. TH ATA just a phone number this is Don Nelson and Nelson -- wrko.com. Is the email address.

I mentioned about -- General. David Petraeus and how he's being here on people on the left she went brilliant move by Obama is if he had any other moves what you gotta put in charge up.

There were some of the names but Patricia is the best known -- in 2007. You remember that bad moveon.org. That really awful ugly dad where they. They deliberately contorted. Petraeus is named to betray us. There was a resolution in the Senate. Expressing support for David Petraeus. People could vote yes or no Barack Obama deliberately. Voted no vote he was one of 31. Of the other two -- Joe Biden. But hero -- that -- about this once you appalled by dad. Buy that slam on a man who. Which not only a great general but certainly had committed to the United States and done remarkable service certainly did better then to. Have. 88 distortion is being -- betray us as if he's a traitor is Benedict Arnold don't you think it would have been appropriate. Just stand up and vote in support resolution in the Senate. Well Barack Obama couldn't bring himself to do it when challenged on that Barack Obama said he didn't believe in frivolous -- resolutions. Who passed by the -- presume essentially -- important business. Well. I think most of us who say it wasn't frivolous given the context is what none of the blue that resolution. It was after that full page -- But I have here an -- thank bill coaching the -- producer who found this force. October 27 2005. If senate resolution 291. Mr. Obama cemented the following resolution which was considered an agreed to. To congratulate the Chicago White Sox on winning the 2005. World Series championship. This is important senate business. But a resolution showing support for General Petraeus after he had been maligned by that left wing group that -- we can't. We really shouldn't be wasting the -- time on. This is the Barack Obama who now thinks should David Petraeus is the show here. What a great guy what a terrific general great strategy vision to take us through the war.

You know it's interesting again to go back to the march Stein article -- go back to the telephone lines.

The ugly truth wrote Thomas Friedman in the new York New York Times. Is that no one in the Obama White House wanted this Afghan surge the only reason they proceeded. More because no one knew how to get out of it. One quote that from Thomas Friedman.

She always had interesting situations. With regard to our military and our commander in chief. Maybe this is why more people are thinking that civilian control military not a good idea. They really different president there would be a different response your thoughts -- lockup takes 172666868. Is the phone number. We go next to stand good afternoon staff.

Do you have an army. I don't know of the year old left for member of the my Catholic general Mike Cather and Truman -- there in the the end of World War --

Well I don't remember in the sense of conscious recollection but I have heard about and I'm glad -- rationed because you can see the difference between. That situation and this one. Right.

I -- Arthur MacArthur at the time. Challenged. Truman's strategy -- challenged should. Truman's policy and -- had done a number of things by the way and that wasn't just sort of an untoward remark about she wasn't prepared -- that the first meeting. MacArthur thought we should engage China. Two and want to news new use nuclear weapons. Because he wanted to end the Korean War with a victory in nineteen argue yes you know what that was a good idea or a bad idea but it wasn't Truman's policy. And after putting up with -- for awhile Truman were called McCarthy.

Right I don't think -- generalist trying to set policies so much that he can just made off color remarks and I didn't really probably. The equity was saying you know I think that's probably the problem wasn't --

I don't think you're you're right and it wasn't a mistake yes it was a mistake even to set up that. That interviewer that. Falling around with the Rolling Stone reporter of all of all people. This guy was committed he used an expletive that I won't but he was committed to shove it Taj tears or worse were the establishment. McChrystal should know that and Ian if you're gonna be in the presence of reporter keep your mug shot. But hey we've heard worse right stand.

Having you know you're gonna be very careful what you say you know everybody picks up they're realistic.

And I tried nowadays you really do the Mike is always on. If you're gonna write something down before you write it down think whether he would be okay for posted on the Boston Globe bulletin board.

But the general drinks. That you know did look at -- drink to generalize and how would drink to -- all drink.

Man under ducked under the attention wouldn't you expect them to have a drink -- go do something to take the -- off. Measure extraordinary. Responsibility that these men had. They gave -- their seeing their people being killed. And their decisions can affect the lives of thousands. Of the of the people in uniform. By gosh they have to be able to have to online to sound off to make comments. And I think Obama should have understood that.

The general of the very well liked by the men and have accurately going to some you know you can get the man you decide -- You know them the next slowly they can become a long maybe not as well like I don't know if.

Well -- that I'm glad you brought up a MacArthur rears it's a good compassion that is thanks for Paula thank. 6172.

666860. Is the phone number. We started with the discussion about McChrystal know it's a little bit past -- but that is -- important event an important decision and it. It reveals. To us elements of the character and the politics of the strategy of -- White House. You wonder what's gonna happen to general -- crushed on the I know he resigned. And you wonder after a lifetime of service and the man who by the way Obama turned to for strategy would that would that can ocean. There were competing strategies it was -- crystals. That Obama went to. He was legal troops and now there's a there's a shadow over writings under a cloud even perhaps. An aspect of disgrace and you wonder if this is going to be what he's left with. You know -- the last major thing he does in the military then. You will this be a legacy that -- really unfortunate. And we have heard worse especially from someone. Who has such as distinguished career I wonder if there will be a resolution in the Senate saying that he should be honored of course in this case. Won't have to vote for he's not in the Senate and do try to veto it.

6172666. TH ATA gave your next on the program good afternoon.

I know based. What a shock event here. -- dictating the same thing is that the right wing is talking about Obama that he didn't have applied the general.

Everybody from the right say doubt.

General well listen to. Welcome to the modern chip -- listen to talk through you know this.

I did and I by the way before you leave that as one of the things stay that I was surprised senator worse than it did did she did much support from crucial. John Boehner the Republican leader in the house. Agreed with the firing I think John McCain went along with that result -- knowing you -- Well I'm I'm not regard he's taking anything I'm just -- and not reader educated.

Well. It's a problem -- they again we geologic about the the general -- the only guy who covered up with Pat Tillman. Theatrical. Didn't -- guys have been fired a long time ago I mean he shouldn't even in the rose. To that level off at the despicable cover. What. Pat Tillman so. -- in general does not deserve a pat on the back I mean obviously. Time it was a bad -- to to allow a reporter.

It to allow your team too bad involved maybe one in the.

Administrations and -- I don't part of the constitution that. -- bit. Civilian rule over.

The military's manually change the constitution.

Are nothing -- interactive. Not surprisingly. Not unusual for new you've got that wrong. Know like first of all this seems really do you have a little bit of a problem here because he was Obama will point you McChrystal and it was Obama -- and I -- hearing that well him it was Obama who. Who followed the crystals strategy. So why you're gonna blame crucial addition up to blame Obama has to the second point. Oh okay well -- I'm in good company I guess they. I simply said that he shouldn't have fired and that's not a matter of whether I don't want the constitution be changed that I think civilians should control the military.

Oddity of this. Theatrical bit Matt. -- yoga the last Obama good bush. The bush -- look into it and hobbies.

This medical and you. -- say that that the general was doing a good job we have. Well well well we don't really he had date obviously. -- would have been going on the law is more you look -- Q what do what is the NBA -- think this you -- dead -- how the family have been so --

Oh I can't Dave then you know motion -- who's in charge of that. It's the commander in chief that's well I think he.

Well if he's dead at the drug that was going to be the next US Ozzie obviously obvious this is no more on this is not being paid for. Are -- you know again.

What you ought to sing something to your president Talabani. -- yeah this is still playing listened to RB Willis thing can't be obvious Bobby. You guys were the one who got this fiasco you can do that you about it. You who don't give up before all whip you know we -- they -- no -- talking.

she was -- to Iraq. Look Dave Dave the reason we have your guy in who's been waiting. Aren't I -- you you reason we have your gun in his because you and others said this is a guy will keep his eye on the ball. So I'm asking you what is the end date if you wanted to raise questions tell you can't keep blaming bush and Nixon.

I would not be able and you have to get to the fact of the matter is these individuals who had got it fits you have to go sports. So Obama AW if he's acquitted direct kids listen to going to end and not open ended commitment this year that.

Well what can tell Obama that you can actually did not okay. And then enough for an update that nothing like. I don't think it's open then another 10 promises we don't have a strategy here. But one of the things not to do is we shouldn't have a timetable will -- they -- gonna begin to withdraw think about what you say when you do that. Here we have the Taliban this is an insurgency problem it's not pitched battle between nations. You've got the Taliban who are infiltrating the villages no we're asking for the support of the Afghan people. If we communicate that we're no leave next year or start leaving. We send a message. That we're not gonna be here for the long haul one now what does that say to the ordinary citizen Afghanistan. If he's gonna cast his lot with the Americans. And then the Americans leave. What do you think's gonna happen to him when you were gone and the Taliban is still.

They -- they're gonna pay with their lives. That's why Obama's idea of a drawn down any time. He's not a good night that's commander in chief stuff can't blame that on George Bush to. Back on the other side of a break and on Nelson. This is AMC TV WRKO.

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Here's your -- shoes -- from time to good use. In addition to listening to she can call in. Opined in your opinion of what's going on. 6172666868. Is the phone memory Nelson and wrko.com. The email address. -- I knew you can listen online network for people who. For whatever reason are not in the area and but if you know that they are outside the area -- Jewish go to the computer. Do wrko.com. And follow the instructions. We started with a question about. General McChrystal his. Technical resignation actually being let go into my expression opinion I was just pointed that Obama. Did that. I thought general McChrystal deserve better and I thought the offense was not that -- your thoughts are welcome. 6172666868. There we go next to Greg who is in a car in the one of those traveling Jan sugar thank. Go ahead drag.

Your I can't you do fine thank you career but maybe -- well thank you for your service first important.

Fumble of the question I ask you what kind of what kind of patriotic Americans. Would refer other pertinent thing I don't want to generate any empathy for him -- that work well. But that's where we're.

Well I would -- so president. Well I don't agree with his policies. You are not a patriotic. American who led his country is led by the well.

You might think I'm patriotic in the country is led by the man does that mean that I have to agree with everything you said don't have to vote for him that next time because he. He's running for reelection as the president.

No not not I'm not talking about political onslaught in about the way you refer. Our president at a time afford is that I don't want to generate. Anywhere -- that the -- and that's right I don't management leading I don't want to join others in this person that in the field right now and Afghanistan and Iraq.

Grammy Award and look Greg one of the things that you want to know about this country then. He's one of the things that you have fought for that others -- fighting for and that when President Obama put his hand on the Bible and raise his hand to support the constitution. One of the important values of the constitution. He's the right to speech and to dissent from governmental policy and to criticize government leaders. And for you to be a whole set because they said. I don't wanna generate sympathy for the man when I'm talking of course about sympathy for him personally in terms of his politics quarters and on my brother -- followed I didn't want. To generate votes for an. Which is of course the nature of the comment if you think that that's somehow. Is contradicted. But what this country is all about I suggest that you fail to understand the important value of the constitution. And the Freeman -- yeah.

It's something else but I have a right to speak to you further.

You have the right to speak to pay slightly you know no audio as much as you want on the air. We'll go -- I love and war.

half a -- more. I don't -- behind enemy lines and half a dozen more but I weekly web site I was wrong I'm not sure I know which side you're on tour.

All -- don't say something stupid --

So right wing in the united America off all over the world but in every military in every country in every countries government. The right -- in America its considered the most dangerous.

all political well if that's really which you considered to be most dangerous than I should just. Think -- accomplish is badly skewed if you think you feel the rightwing which you don't fear the terrorists is much you don't hear the illegal immigrants coming no I don't drive I don't.

well I caught the error and what you thought the match what you fear them future services like the way they don't know I don't but I think we might have to pretend like wait.

Hi William you don't know much energy abolition I charge should prove Porsche where that I have not being in the military.

I don't we already -- that.

Don't wait no we didn't know that but now you do that doesn't disqualify me from having opinions ducked it your beloved president was not in the military was -- But do you think that it's okay for him to be president and commander in chief spare us.

oh -- you're not likely to block the work he's humble man you know people in the world all right married government. Like many military all the soldiers all -- Harris magnets and her high -- places like. That's absurd to Australia the UK okay -- yeah. -- high school I suspect right wing in the united state and their data and information are nice and unanswered dirty and most in rural.

I shot up for a moment and start talking. I'm not surprised that in other countries of the world. They -- bad things about people who believe in individual liberty who believe in capitalism open shot or you know who's who support the United States constitution I don't know a good sign off for a moment I don't know whether or anything that what you said about your background is true or not but I'll tell you this. That if you're going to draw around bad mouthing people -- right of center and hide behind your alleged service to the country has a justification for. And criticize people. Who disagree with you just because they haven't been in the military you do more of the dis service to your country to the background and to the people in the military than any other people on the left wing picture -- supported -- for the right -- The judicial critical.

Thanks for the cauldron thanks for the call. 6172666868. Grew tired of the people who somehow making it. If you haven't served -- you can't you can't comment. I'll tell you something if you wanted to do a plebiscite as to where the military as if you wanna have this country governed by people elected by the military. We have a very different cast of characters. I remember there were a number of polls that show there was strong support for George Bush among the military much more so than there was in the country is a hall. John Kerry did a touch of this too. -- implication that if you weren't in the military well and maybe you shouldn't have quite as much say as some of the others. Doesn't work that way. Disappointing to have people like I don't know whether what direction at about his background he was true or not it doesn't really matter in a way. What does matter is that the constitution guarantees freedom speech. And finally feeling I'll give -- credit for because of this program he knew he was gonna get -- fall called up anyway show. That's what the program to about 6172666868. -- phone number we go next to Jim good afternoon Jim.

Photograph. I just wanna make a couple of quick observation. First off the last two callers are a great example of why don't left is perceived as immature. Because. Whenever they're losing the argument on the fact. They resort to either tugging at the heart strains or they just. Revert to -- right green.

I tried out right name calling. -- The last part of the last call Greg -- question for the right wing is considered the most dangerous and it's taught in high schools in Australia you're kidding me. And -- take issue with me because I said gee I didn't wanna generate too much sympathy for Obama and that he considers to be treachery. Or treason -- that's just absurd. Increase if you rarely if he really did fight in the military while somebody was watching him closely pissed he sounds dangerous.

Yeah I would want him with me and I sit. And I would never ordered him in my vehicle which makes. --

You can't do that you before you shall you not exactly -- Much more I don't.

That I wanted to make another observation about the president and how he handled Democrat but one -- and I agree with you that. It was appropriate from McChrystal to offer his resignation. But I honestly think the president should have called him an Iranian ambassador. And and chewed out that told him because -- ambassador. -- been covered -- Station and a little local TV station. That event there have bad mouth McChrystal in the past month their trip. And nobody had said anything him. And that it would have been very presidential. If you -- all the -- move in and said. Straight -- Iraq your boat competent to do your job keep the door shut up permanently replace both the then presidential.

That's right and it should have been done behind closed doors manager just then afterwards the president could simply said we had a meeting. We discussed things that we've so we've set the record straight we're now on the same page let's get on with winning the war in Afghanistan.

Exactly either straight or twelve amount -- fire that two of them because. The ambassador has been doing the exact same thing for months and nobody has -- anything about it.

Well it's an interesting point and new -- right we haven't heard much except for the well the acceptance of the crystals resignation really the firing them Kristol thank you you're right if -- I'm I'm I'm not I'm not. If you have the information on what does the ambassador said it would be uploaded this to read that Cho sent to us.

Calls trying you -- if they get out.

Thank you thank you go. 6172666860. It is the phone number eight Nelson a WRK dot com -- female -- one thing you got to share. About guys like -- Is that they get the juices flowing. And they -- They are they're good if you want to have phone calls in here opinions from people they stimulate. They inspire. People to call and they are not on the payroll they are not hired. From -- ER KO or by me to call in just to do that but that is the result. And especially takes -- courage to call you when you know that your going to be going against what the talk show bush is saying. It also I -- says something about intestinal fortitude or maybe something else some other bodily function. That these people will listen to points of view. And to a whole program that's oriented 180 degrees opposite to what they think. They're drawn to it like a moth to light. However I don't do itself. Church 172666. Years should tip the phone number Walter your next on the program good afternoon.

Good afternoon I'll -- decks are taking my call -- comment on the question my comment would be. -- that President Obama. Didn't serve in the military furthermore I wonder she was ever even little history. -- harmless to your -- my question is -- are -- scroll. On one of the news stations at the administration. -- whatever is considering. Changes struggle rules of engagement -- what are the change assure the rules of engagement if they're considering is -- Gillette -- what cherry actually shoot out and kill -- Or are they gonna issue that -- is better -- so -- little. Accident or.

I understand this should be sarcasm of the facetious in this in the last part of their guard but he is move the it's the former not the latter. And as a matter of fact as you probably know. As -- stands now the rules of engagement where they couldn't get our guys couldn't fire unless fired upon and -- very frustrating. Two members of the military and the word seems to be that General Petraeus. He's going to mature -- relaxed those rules or. Orient them a little more to being more aggressive. The objective of course on the crystals part. Forced to cut down on civilian casualties. I've heard people say that I heard a commentator say that for every civilian we kill we generate three members or supporters of the Taliban. It's a very awkward situation very difficult. Because it's a counterinsurgency. War. Not nearly as simple in concept this -- World War II or even Vietnam. Willis who organized the stage direct an enemy here you've got people filtering in and out of flee the population. -- you don't wanna go willing million just shoot everything that moves. On the other hand. It's hard to strike that balance in there who we -- military -- you there was cell essentially McChrystal. Which being too cautious about protecting civilian life that the risk of American life -- It is targeted to nowhere line's gonna be drawn but Petraeus is gonna draw on a different pledged.

Let the military fight the war so the war can be one.

Well I agree and we usually when politicians run war's run into trouble. Thanks for god -- 172666868. Paying some bills back on the other side. Somebody else in this -- ANC Cheney WRKO.

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And from bill especially with regard to Dave's got territory inspires -- inspires -- action. Is Phishing email -- right back to the line interest in an email. That said. That's the explanation for why McChrystal allowed. Rolling Stone why chose Rolling Stones because. Crucial himself as an ardent leftists he did vote for Obama we made mention that earlier in -- Fox News from his headquarters mentioned that earlier. And the news here they ridership is that this suspicion is in the crystal. Didn't know the obvious leftist leanings of the Rolling Stone reporter but figured they'll -- common and so he would be well taken care of and apparently not. This the revolution eating its own I love the signature on this so exciting to old -- stone. Perhaps a pseudonym but inappropriate want let's go back to the lines now we go next to bill good afternoon bill.

Obviously start -- you. Wonder that stopped when he -- stuff that we keep playing George Bush. Every day there's -- I mean you know it's not some. Economic problem that rears its head like five years later after the president out of office. This is his deal he brought this on user is policies Israel but there any scratches. And we're supposed to pay for me.

and Leo there's yeah I can this year question when does it stop never. From the left never. They will blame George Bush may be -- I remember when they used to blame connection for everything Reagan for everybody you know and now it's bush. And his Bush's fault even though McChrystal was appointed by Obama but -- yeah the children and his policies. It's.

diplomacy to move the American president. My blog -- was a really good movie years ago because this game is great more -- the end of it not paraphrasing here so it will be sent he said. Being an American -- extensive Patricia you gotta want it bad you have to be willing to -- at center stage it'll ask you this somebody in the right. Say something that you would defend -- all they -- to -- most active at the -- you're -- all girl okay you have to sit and listen. And let them know you know it will appear they're total opinion not just -- percent of that it shut it down. Would be willing to listen to percent of there's so you know the lunatic fringe where it is.

Well it sounds like those of their requirements for a talk show host almost Ted Mitchell go like the present we have applied and written their -- everybody. Bill -- going well -- Excellence in 26662. -- reference to. Played baseball for some time and still trying to learn how to hit do we keep we keep trying. Mike you're next good afternoon.

I really initiated a boat deck Gary -- gave it. I think gave get to a before they gave it to a friend of are you. Greg. Do you what they would know more navy still. -- Very very -- Arum. To get -- our reputation in neighborhood just say what you didn't true. But I can assure but I assured. And W Sherman Sherman a giveaway every program it could -- to put lineage. What you survey or are you sure -- you try to. Take a ballot to -- little. You do it I would object so. Boyish. Usually you probably know Asia that doors for many years you never wavered in Europe bully bush. And this started our insurance. You know it legitimate candidate wherever it was and I --

I appreciate that -- let me tell you so -- I I have I know the difference between service in the military and not serving. And I have a tremendous amount of respect and -- try never forget. Small that the people who really served in the military did it's one thing for me to. To be on here and make sure okay I've had my share of death threats and there was a time when I had to have police escorts and you know came into the studio and there was a -- through window. There there's no compassion between what I have done and the people who actually on the battlefield. And our. You know put in harm's way and I show that about John Kerry also he deserves our full credit for the service in the military that does not rule however. That we somehow rip up our rights to criticism for the opportunity to. Involve ourselves in freedom of speech an argument which is the very thing that almost people on the battlefield were fighting for. Deal with with World War II. If we lost that war we wouldn't be able to say the things that we do so for someone to throw that out even someone who has been in the military is Craig did. As some kind of holier than -- or right to have a higher platform than those who didn't -- That was. And egregious contradiction of what this nation swore but I thought I wanna congratulate you Mike on your servers there's a difference between what you do. Torre brought in what I did.

Well I don't feel that way out yeah I really killed two O -- other great need I think I showed solid. But you will follow our countries but -- just suggest that you didn't -- you have a good to have -- proposition that it tells -- lot of fun. Are. You -- what struck you -- a -- of personal life are on the table and make you -- in the -- They -- video blog whatever Benihana -- they don't agree with what you say so I'm mark right.

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You know Bobbie what I really trying decorating about this is -- general McChrystal -- out. In the incompetent ambassador to Afghanistan Cowell and I'll calm action mark and Kerry is undermining our troops in Afghanistan and -- still in this post.

Well like now we're talking about questions of policy. And yeah I can understand that. That there's disagreement with what's going on and then choice between -- two I guess I would've gone with the crucial Walsh although his politics and minor are quite divergent. What do you think should be done in Afghanistan --

Well first of all the ambassador has to go. Okay. What he's he's doing has been insulting to the president of ask -- Afghanistan. Activities and let these undermine his efforts without question and and when American GI's are dying trying to say civilians. Way he's on the opposite side causing problems so he needs to go and the president is so stupid and incompetent. Not to realize that and get ready -- the should get rid of them along time ago.

Rush thank you for the call up against a bridge initially and in now as we come to the end this segment. What is our mission in Afghanistan it's very difficult we keep confusing I think sometimes. That somehow the people in Afghanistan. Are angry like we are. The Taliban and al-Qaeda because of what al-Qaeda did in New York. It's unclear to me that that's the objective of the people of Afghanistan a whole new year with our objectives. Maybe that's part of the problem I know there's corruption with the Karzai administration. That what is what is we really trying to accomplish. Back on the other side and on the Nelson this Tuesday and -- Cheney WRKO.

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This is Don Nelson do I remember through the program. Email address -- Nelson WIN DOT dot com. Phone numbers 6172666868. And Jeff he mailed and said McChrystal will be Obama's next running mate. And plans to launch Jeff but -- Let me -- jump -- a little bit -- get to some other topics in this. This hour the program I'm indebted to the executive producing your RK OL coaching who mentioned to me -- reminded me. That June 28. He's the anniversary of the assassination of arch duke Ferdinand.

Harmful -- young hungry. And that was the precipitation of World War I action 19149. No that's 96 years I'm sorry it's not around number met. Who knows if we'll be together in four years so let's take the opportunity we can't. -- There are very little knowledge of World War I and yet it was extremely important in terms of what. Of what happened later in the in the twentieth century it was in many respects the motivation for all the other things that took place that we are more familiar with -- and the irony of how sometimes small things can precipitate an enormous. Reactions and results. The the killing of arched an arch duke Ferdinand and his wife Sophie. Done by a man who was considered relatively inept and a bad shot. They are -- Lewis who is visiting in Serbia and it was anticipated that the might be some difficulty there was always someone Russian there was actually a bomb thrown at the car that missed. And then the driver and that the this particular the group of people who would. Who were planning assassinations. Were -- and they went home and this fellow pro camps. Stopped into a sandwich shop to get something to -- He comes -- sandwich shop. And in the meantime the driver. Of the -- do each car he and his wife when the car makes a wrong turn. Turns up the street and as the driver realizing the mistake. Goes to turn the car around. -- comes out of a sandwich shop and various confronting. The person they wanted to kill with a more formal assassination plot before. Hey take -- a pistol and this is a man who was not a good shot he fires two shots. One kills the arch duke the other kill his wife. And the last -- at the arch -- spoke were so if we don't die say stay alive for the children. And that precipitated the events of World War I. -- sometimes it for example of World War II. There was a blockade and you can see the power's coming to confrontation we had blockaded Japan because of Japan's. In -- invasion of other Asian countries. But this one was just a fluke what happened after that. Was Austria Hungary wanted to take revenge but they were concerned because Serbia had a friend in Russia. And so they went to German media -- they would have support regatta from Kaiser Wilhelm. And what's interesting is that Kaiser Wilhelm B. And the number of Germany Angela Nicholas who is the czar of Russia Kirk cousins. There were both thinking descendants of queen Victoria and England sure how incestuous malicious. At the last minute there were telegrams between the two then and -- czar Nicholas would send. Two Kaiser will army trying to he would send me Mickey and royal -- which send back saying it Willy who nor persons. Russia mobilized to Germany. Thought that if Russia is mobilizing them must mean war Germany thought they should strike first and so they would hand. France was bound by treaty to Russia. The wildcard in this is England who were not bound by treaty to anybody. Even though it's generally thought that they girl who's a domino effect. But England couldn't stand the idea of -- dominated by Germany in any -- he needed help with her foreign. Her foreign colonies from France and Russia so she jumped into and everybody thought that it was going to be just six months send. We were at. Everybody would be victorious once thought that there would be victorious and in the end what was it fifteen million people were killed the man that put trench warfare. It lasted for four years and if you want some irony. The treaty of Versailles that formally ended World War I was also signed on June 28 June 28 1919. So five years in between. Then at the end of the war the Kaiser was gone the Soviet Union had begun because the revolution that toppled Nicholas. Austria Hungary was -- the Ottoman Empire was gone. And we set up with the very demanding. Provisions of the treaty were shy. And economic strain on Germany which coupled with the Great Depression that later came on precipitated garage of Adolf Hitler and the Nazis or not she's coming to power. And the eventual World War II. So interesting to commemorate how these things happened when those when people say gee we don't understand how. How small events can precipitate large ones or how small individuals can motivate enormous outcomes for -- when people. Say the Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone couldn't possibly kill John Kennedy. -- history tends to contradict that things can happen small events small people. Can precipitate large results. Well -- this history. We have may have more to say about this unless another occasion that the flood of interest in. To speculate about things that happened nearly a century ago that have implications even to this day.

Let's not shift do something a little more current now we talked earlier about the the president's handling of them crucial situation. Wanna bring in now to the oil spill in the moratorium. That. That we have we weren't. We have enough that thing was struck down by a judge. The Obama administration decided that we should have no more deep sea drilling for oil because. The BP problem. Anything more than 500 feet. Sure they were going to shot get to the gulf region which is heavily dependent on that not only that it didn't make any sense. You know it felt. If you're a car accident you ban all automobiles of a plane goes down and you're not sure what the cause immediately ban all. Airline flights all airplane should be grounded. You'd like a draconian reaction and judge Martin Feldman CUS district judge in New Orleans. Found that communication Jewish struck down the moratorium which interesting is. That this moratorium was supported by -- finding that the interior secretary in his department. Claim bush supported by exports to the trouble was they fudged the document. They can't actually handed a provision which made it look like all these experts supported the moratorium. It was so egregious that some of the experts are actually came out and said. We don't support the moratorium. We didn't and we wouldn't. -- Interior Department had to apologize. But they still use this as justification for a moratorium the judge struck it down. So now may be we can get some drilling going on what I find interesting is the most recent information we have is that. The interior secretary Ken Salazar.

He's -- issuing new order. Permanent moratorium. Just hours after the federal judge had said no. Now I'm no lawyer. But word -- contempt of court coming in here. What's the whole point but I mean the court the court says he can't do they should doesn't make sense I'm striking it down and they say well but yeah so why would put it back -- and I don't know what's going to happen. There's part of the ruling that Feldman said. The -- is unable to do mine or.

Found them a relationship between the findings of the government and the immense scope of the moratorium. The plaintiffs assert that they have suffered and will continue to suffer irreparable farmers jurors although the moratorium. But court agrees. And most people in the oil industry also agree. Which all well and good DeShea -- terrible it is terrible what happened. But that doesn't mean we should ban all oil drilling. Nor does it mean we should ban all drilling that's below 500 feet. Foolish this story is still going on you have the interest in challenge between the and the the cord and the Gulf Coast in the people in Louisiana. This thing's been badly handled by the Obama administration.

So when they try to come up where if frictions. They try to go into areas where perhaps politically they will -- However Paul mightily before I leave that want. Seventeen. Nations seventeen patients. Who have expertise in this field of of -- spills. Have offered to. Help with the united states's effort and Obama has turned them all down. And then Jones -- approved prohibits. Vessels in foreign flags and stuff by fallen sailors -- a non Americans the Jones act of 1920 prohibits that. Still has yet to be suspended remember George Bush. Mobile reviled by the left. He suspended immediately for Katrina take help from -- got it. Now you say what the administration tries to do is to go to an area where maybe they get some political support -- doing a pretty bad job of it. And I think it brings us to. The whole question of the illegal immigration. Again from from the executive producer duke which we have some sound -- of the governor Jan Brewer. And she's she had a meeting of Porsche -- Barack Obama in the off fish. And she talked about there was some expectation as to what they we get after after that really do we have a clip -- we -- while the trend that.

Two weeks ago I met with President Obama he promised that we would it work in his administration on what they were going to do to secure the border well. We finally got the mesquite. These signs.

Okay now. Because we can't see the signs on radio. We're gonna read them to you that these are actual science issue is sure standing in the desert.

Trouble caution and cherish smuggling and illegal immigration may be encountered in this area. Her feel safer already that's assigned to stay by the -- eighty miles from the border and that there was -- time here's another one. Danger public warning trouble not recommended. At. Active drug and human smuggling area. Visitors mean -- armed criminal. -- crew armed criminals and smuggling vehicles traveling at high rates of speed. Stay away from trash clothing backpacks and abandoned vehicles. -- the bullet point if you see suspicious activity do not confront -- nation point. Move away and call 911. And then BL W encourages visitors to use public lands north of interstate eight. When I first heard this I thought maybe it was a spoof. Maybe this was a joke that somebody was putting up a parody. Of what Obama has done for the border. But it turns out that. This is indeed the place. So again I appreciate -- different region you bill good to good -- that. He -- this year what is emerged from the Obama administration this is Obama's contribution. To. Illegal immigration. We're not sealing the border the troops -- use force to send down the national grind -- god there are most of the murder in the discharge. We pretty much science. Signs warning people in May be -- issue -- may be confronted by some -- The -- supposed to be there. Signs smuggling and illegal immigration may be encountered in this area. I kid you not these are actual -- due diligence is secure the border dot com you can go and then you can see this. Well why -- she isn't the only thing we have also the secretary. Of labor. And held a short leash is her name. She put together a public server smashing each. Mission is done of course attach -- expense.

And we have a part of what she -- either of the key part we have like cooked rom OK let's run that.

I'm US secretary of labor -- so -- and it is a serious problem when workers in this country are not being paid every cent stake turned. Remember every worker in America has a right to be paid dearly whether documented or not. So call us it is free and confidential.

Again though there's a phone number which I refused to include in the clip because I'm not gonna encourage it. Every worker should be because right to be paid whether. A documented or not or undocumented. Well. How you can hear the hard -- I know that mixes the metaphor but I did that intentionally you can hear the hard bleed. For people lined in paid what Hillary thinks they should be paid. Let's figure out. If you are going to have the secretary to cabinet level officer whether documented -- If you're gonna have the secretary of labor. Coming -- messages like that here's an important question. Do you encourage or discourage illegal immigration. I -- think about it revenues had a pocket component unpalatable. Can figure out what large syringe. What an absurd thing for this administration to be doing this is exactly -- why we have. And illegal immigration problem or -- of the reasons. Other reasons are of course that there -- involved with drug smuggling and that's why we have snipers on their short -- but you we have the secretary of labor. Who -- saying now -- gotta hit the fairways -- ya gotta raise their wages here. Well if you do that.

You're gonna get more people here. And that is not what should be encouraging it is remarkable to me that this administration seems to be so tone deaf fondness. That they don't understand. That the problem has to be solved by securing the border and by not encouraging people to come into the country not by encouraging them pick up. It is remarkable to me that they they don't get it. Didn't get into different theories here you know the shorthand notation is that. The Republicans want the illegals to come in -- war cannot vote and Democrats want the illegals come in and vote and not work. You can of course she impugn the motives of the administration until they want more illegals here. There's an etched -- there's going to be some kind of amnesty and then all the democratic. Well whether or not that is the intention. The policy is a bad policy and aggravates the situation which is already bad and we are having more difficulties with illegals. And getting encouragement to come here. Is not good. The broader measure here. Gallup federation -- They do this periodically. They -- you conservative to liberal or moderate. The most recent numbers which just came out I think when the last couple days 42%. Conservative. 20% liberal. And 35%. -- And conservative number is up a little bit from last year liberal is roughly the same. That's better than 21 conservative over liberal. Fastest question. If indeed we have a country. That is overwhelmingly conservative than 21 better than two to one is overwhelmingly conservative. If we and by the way if you wanna go with a moderate usually a political campaigning and decide it's split in the same ratio of those who have decided to. The moderates would probably break in the same ratio. Conservative to liberal it's Russia's true want. But if the country's 21 conservative how come it's one by liberals. Who what is wrong with the system here. That the intent the philosophy. Of the majority of the American people by a huge amount. He's not being. Represented. By. The results of our elections by the people who are in office it is after all supposed to be a democracy. A plebiscite on. -- office on on the bases of certain nations. And as a result of those campaigns people or -- usually they're gonna implement things. And seemed to be working knowing I'm not sure I have an answer for that.

That here we have a country which is. Strongly conservative. However government which is anything but. And the people who are not conservative control. Both houses of the congress and they control the White House and yet here we are -- numbers that say. That's not the case. The good guys illusionist program and is probably better than 21 for this program.

But think reflect who are from a -- sender. -- not being appropriately represented. Now didn't just talk among Massachusetts for a moment -- not to use that as a bastion of conservatism. But I have found myself thinking that. In Massachusetts. It's only like 38% of their book of the people are Republican.

Then they don't usually goes into the forties in terms of election and sometimes a Republican to win he nationally -- office. We don't have 38% 40% of the congressional seats. Now here we understand why the Democrats control and therefore they are able to gerrymandered districts such that Republicans never giving them.

I speculated that maybe we ought to do something about that. Maybe you ought to have a court challenge and say hey we're not gonna act quickly and accurately representing the people of Massachusetts. Much harder to see how that's playing on the national scale me can be gerrymandering the country doesn't work that -- So it's interesting that that somehow people are not voting they're flush with. Which leaves us with some problems because. We get disappointed. -- the people in office. Don't do the things we would like them to do understandably have a different point of view. -- 172666860. It is the phone number they Nelson at WRK dot com is the email address. Okay while there's some things out there for your consideration if you've got some interesting ideas fresh speculation. Wyoming and shareware much more -- Go back to alliance we go next to Paula good afternoon Paul.

I the all I do you have an issue with regards to. The the issue of conservatives versus the city. Liberal and why is that the liberals thought the Democrats are controlling congress now. And I think it really lies that the defeat of Republicans whoever shoots too. Really addressed. The the complaint further the needs of the common. Conservative which is to get congress pretty much out of the business of trading papers with taxes and all of that reduces our enthusiasm for the likes so well Mitch McConnell and John Boehner who. Who if anybody is like the head of the Republican Party I think they are down. All but they continue to meet with the you know the big money people. And our tax system continues to really hurt. Com anybody who makes money runs a business wants to go into business for themselves. And go all the papers are played in Washington by both.

Yeah okay with the last -- sense did you just made that play about both sides and let's assume for the moment. That you have a legitimate gripe OK the Republicans on doing a good job. Still all the Democrats by this calculation. You know celebrating along the scale they're doing -- worse -- I mean there are overt. Left of center. Some of them quite far to the left today. They want to expand government power at the expense of the individual and and regulation and do all sorts of things that compromise that small business is you can't look. If you had to choose between the two on the basis of what -- mention the standard you're offering. It may be a choice between lesser of evils but it's a clear choice is not like the Democrats -- the Republicans.

they they most certainly are but I think they have been at least the last you know for years that had -- ground roots operation where they can utilized unions. All they can get the people out on you know on the local level. -- whereas until recently -- say that the key party. There really hasn't been like that ground -- kind of organizational structure. Stick goes beyond just the Republicans. You know struck.

Well you may be right and of course in the last election there're there are local effects that I -- then. Influence here there was dissension on the George Bush newest addition chairman over what was going on the wars in. And Katrina and -- etc. And prior to that the Republicans were doing pretty well but if I hear you correctly Paul. Which are saying is that. Come November we should she change.

Until it okay thank your god. 6172666860. I just find it interesting that as a matter -- and I can remember in years when this was not the case. That we are as a country we oriented much more toward. Right then laughed and I find that very encouraging I think that Tea Party is a manifestation of it. People are saying Alicia good we want to get our country back we're tired of this deficit spending. We're concerned about we don't want to trillions of dollars of debt were passing on -- the next generation. You're probably moved up will all government intrusion. Hello with the new financial regulation package they -- on going Elaine anytime soon. 6172666868. Gave major next on the program good afternoon.

How they are in. -- Good to -- kind of record where's there's so much.

Now that's fine and you know like you -- and it's gonna be reiterated that makes it stronger.

We're only delineate having been involved in campaigns here from the time you ran.

Working for you what John Malone by the way it was on the other side working Ed Brooke. And working from 1970. And 1988 Republican primed for Reagan. Well Joe Malone by the way we don't the other side will control one -- liberals. Or will we will call why don't Republicans have Napster which when he would equal the Internet and.

he wouldn't be involved in many Reagan campaigns. Ever.

These program content on your -- well so there's a reason I'm saying that there's a reason -- all -- a year you yourself to a listeners to hear that. But I think it has a little bit to do -- in my experience was what class you belong to and by that I mean are you a member of the productive class. I you actually out of pain that -- so that all are Democrats so welfare recipients but all welfare recipients typically are Democrats.

In and yes folks that I have what needs to.

Who were well they're making it happen who are doing something productive or gainfully employed. And -- what conservative and then right now least they've become more active they were always conservatives.

But they're definitely more active.

I don't know I think there's something to that what do we have 47% of the country now I'm just not paying them to actions. -- is in very interest devote themselves. More and more of the largesse of others.

So there's a there's a political problem there then -- It is interesting to me wonder how many of them considered themselves to be conservative anyway.

you're -- you know I think AB Scott Brown was it was a good candidate for the type of people for the first time. The only result down here in the district and I grew up in him live in Plymouth County actually reflect its. My personal experience with the people who do you Scott carried via the district by about twenty points. Had that was the first hot it's actually looked like he got ideas.

It's -- aid to people like dealt with Ed Dennehy indicating you should you should be immediate or got forced her there's.

Richard Bennett thank you political deal I think there is an interesting point here there's a difference between philosophy. And politics. There are Democrats who are conservative. Like those of the blue collar Democrats so called I wish -- little led to the Reagan majority it would lead to the stock for a majority. These are people who liked tend to be conservative. But they also vote the party of their registration of the parent registration to go with a gay. Eventually you wind up without a funny kind of of political cross current. And then result that isn't necessarily reflective. Of the thinking of the people. So there is a clear disparity between philosophy and politics between the labels conservative liberal moderate and the labels Republican Democrat. We give -- all sorted out Joe -- shake up the system and get those aligned we sweep to victory and never have likes of the left wing office solution we haven't.

He office now we never have and in their against the -- on the other side of paying some bills to show you the conservative side and pay the bill. We'll continue after that I'm on Nelson this is and succeed WOR KS.

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Welcome back this is Don Nelson AMC TW I K lowers the station. Nelson at WRKO dot com's email address and phone number 6172666860. Yeah. Well a top spatula to -- issues some of them are short some of them may inspire some thought.

You're concerned about who's losing jobs because of the BP spill. Strip -- are now putting claim I kid you not.

Chairperson additional new addiction and gulf oil. -- people and fishermen in drilling crews and restaurant tourists. The observer. Loose clothing and by the way he got to kind of -- this year.

The most most of dancing girls adult entertainment club -- compensation. For lost business. This you know the twenty billion dollars of two gulf money our money for the gulf that's coming for -- from BP H going to that fund.

However the man who's going to Russia who's gonna run that fund pays ours is called. That's an awful word but I'm okay Kenneth Feinberg expressed his doubt. About this claiming to quote I'm dubious about that claim I'm very dubious about -- He reiterated. He's people who weren't sure he was dubious.

Then he goes on. I don't wanna prejudged any individual claim I think we will study this and decide though. Attenuated claims can be that will be eligible or in eligible for compensation. Under this independent facility. --

Well anyway. Everybody gets on the bandwagon or -- whole bunch of fraudulent claims after Katrina. When -- expect that there will be some of this as well. Border patrols. Most of us have good feelings about them because they're trying to keep them. The border clear of the illegals and people who -- money and not show that the US social forum in Detroit. Has such attendees says. Bill Ayers and Bernadette -- you know then -- buddies of Barack Obama. Danny Glover who thinks that Hugo Chavez is a great man the actor -- that a shot and Glover is cannot China's. Elaine -- also there. Unless you think she's just a flake she's actually contributed to the New York Times. And she contributes by comparing the Border Patrol to the Ku Klux Klan that's what she said. Pension you shouldn't sit with them don't have dinner with them and they'll get the message -- all fade away there is really a -- But nonetheless this is what's going on. My relations this is Detroit not especially near the border and he's not a southern border real she'd have too much trouble with the northern border. This is what's going on then in the category of deep wisdom. We all not a contribution. Also having to do with the illegal immigration. This one from Peggy west -- Democrat. She is a Milwaukee count Irish Tony -- You might not note for the name but she was bill with great fanfare is the first Hispanic true she's the first Latina. To be on the of the company's supervisory role. And here's her contribution.

This day and generalities. I'm a warrior with the Mac can't. Any day we're calling for a massive. Saying that they have a major issue with the you know what I'm back many people who -- their borders. They. Haven't looked like the best. They say. Okay to remove -- order. And I'll go -- and then. It doesn't make sense to me they ask. You Google this OK let me -- here I'm happy times happy. Yeah you picture okay. Garner they're gonna -- mom on AEA and -- don't have -- you have to relax. -- the next -- our National Guard troops out of water in here.

Now we -- the whole clip.

Peggy what is south and Arizona. What geographical. Area what do we call it shell of Arizona. At. Like which state do you think is shout -- Arizona is our zoning is far from the border.

This dim -- moment who brought to you by. Your officials who at least if you're in Milwaukee that -- among the officials. Arizona as someone in there her colleagues pointed out does indeed sit on the border with Mexico.

So the moment the reason was interesting -- she goes on becomes almost incoherent.

Can't get to know what -- Arizona doesn't fashion reporters we're right now --

What what it was interesting is that she then went on talked about this meeting where. With Obama and there's a linkage in their troops home by you when it wasn't just the mistake of not knowing who Arizona's. They're just not being in the -- coherent. This year elected official. Your thoughts are welcome I don't know why you comment on this. But it's kind of fun to. To hear but. Sometimes the technology is advantageous and we didn't have microphones all over the place in the Internet we would've known about Peggy.

That we do so we'd have. On a more serious note. Congressman representative sue my director Republican North Carolina. Has pointed out that Hezbollah which is -- terrorist organization funded by Iran. Maybe colluding with drug cartels along the US Mexico border. A -- and agents and members of Hezbollah. She -- are thought to be learning Spanish in guess where Venezuela. That Hugo Chavez -- country. They're learning Spanish before trying to obtain false documents to into the United States as purported Mexicans. She said Hezbollah. Known for urged told being skilled. Could be receiving drug money from cartel operations. In exchange for help forging better tunnels across the US border for trafficking. And even in prisons in the American southwest. Gang members are now being seen to be wearing tattoos. In Farsi far she is the Persian language. That spoken in Iran misunderstand. And that seems to imply -- and influence that can likely be traced back to Iran and its proxy army Hezbollah. Tell it and for a long time there's been a connection between the international drug trafficking. And terrorism we'll get Afghanistan right this largest supplier of poppies. In the world and let the drug trafficking money that goes to fund the tall man. Maybe not surprising that that there are some people coming in this country. More connected with both the drug trafficking and terrorism. She conclusion by The Who have this saying that the Spike -- to Israel like car bombings of Mexican USA border personnel or National Guard units. Coincidentally the Susan do. 2006. Homeland security committee. Meeting in the house -- report. Noted that Hezbollah members had already been caught entering the United States the Mexico. Though they show you one example. Grinding is the last name brother of Hezbollah chief who in 2005. Pled guilty to providing material support to Hezbollah. After being smuggled across the US Mexico border. And shuttling in Dearborn Michigan. It's important to keep these things in mind that maybe we need more activity on the border. Then just some signs which apparently the Obama administration. His in favour -- has put up some eighty miles from the borders we talked about earlier what does the Obama administration doing. They -- Fellow named Harold hurt. Former police chief in Houston Phoenix he's been hired as the director. For the US immigration and customs enforcement's. Office of state and local. Coordination -- these wonderful title to launch of reliant. What you're feeling about him while he's gonna -- reaching communication. Between ice the immigration and customs enforcement. And local law enforcement agencies that he his opposed to they threw the ball he's in favor of Sanctuary Cities I mean you're there reporting a guy who -- to be involved -- enforcement who's not in favor of enforcement.

Good. That's where the Obama administration is going in terms of of the whole issue. Homeland security and illegal immigration there's an important political calculus going on here in the White House. Remember the Latino vote which is. Extremely important Hispanic -- in extremely important to Barack Obama did very annoyed that he hasn't done much about it. The whole question of immigration. As he promised to do you not only shrine to deliver come November. But it's very difficult because on the one hand you have the constituency and activist constituency. That is in favor of some kind of generosity with regard to move this whole question of illegal immigration. And they knew everybody else. Who are overwhelmingly opposed to I don't wanna make it sound like the Hispanic community is monolithic on this there are a lot of people of Hispanic origin who are. Concerned about who is really illegal immigration I mean that their kids and their families are caught in the crossfire to. So it's not a monolith it monolithic vote. But Obama's trying to have it both ways trying to look like he's doing something while not doing anything that -- comprehension immigration reform he's not being brought up to the congress. Because they know it would be a disaster. Sure you end up with these kind of strange mixed messages.

Then appointment said. The rest of us raise eyebrows arch.

6172666860. It is the phone number -- Nelson W ArQule dot com is the email address. How do we have to pause for a break we know we don't OK good then moving from one to another to another issue. And that is Scott and a lot of attention. Such always dies.

Such scandal would Al Gore is not related to illegal immigration near as I can -- so we just to a jump shift. You've probably heard about it by now. She's a masseuse or massage therapist rumored designation you wanna give. Unwanted sexual contact that's what she says. Al Gore paid her. In 2006. And October.

Well it turns out that the police did get some information about this they found insufficient evidence to support the claims. Now she's contacted the police again or she did in January of 09. Came up with a statement she's -- 54 years old now. And so on and so forth. It is as you can imagine titillating everybody in the media and I hear. All sorts of comments on it and she people on the news talk about it here talk show focusing on it. And of course is an immediate presumption. That the man's guilty and shades of Monica Lewinsky and all arrest. Well. We take a different point of view on Nash. And that is I am awfully tired of the presumption of guilt. Until instances this thing licences established when exposed to be just the other way around. I have no. Brooke for Al Gore and anybody who spoke to listen to me knows that politically foolish shuttle real mouse away for a.

But there's something wrong with a system that allows someone to -- charging knows her name is never has not been released she she's protective. And you can say whatever you want and especially if it can't get to the sexual domain people ought to know better start talking about. Oh wow well yes.

And they may be this kind of bodily fluid -- may be indication here. I I'm Russia that I don't think destroying people's reputations. Until we have ample evidence to suggest there reputations are worthy of destruction. I don't think that that is a good policy knowing the difference between the court of public opinion. And the court of law. We are not restricted. Especially when it comes to public they used to waiting until all the Evans to CN who might consider that -- possibility. I think about it for a moment how would you like it to happen to you what do you -- Which wasn't somebody -- false rape charges against your -- false rape charges against yourself. There's people shed whereas you go to get his reputation back even if he's acquitted disposing isn't. The chargers. Lead to very -- consequences. I think what we ought to do is institute of policy. That if the accusations false. The penalty for a false accuser. Is the same as what would've been meted out to the pershing she accused hadn't been guilty. It is such a serious crime you go away for years -- realized. That. We ought to stand very firmly. Against. The hurling false accusations. And this one did rise almost level of us under an attempted rape. And I know it's titillating -- and comedic because it's Al Gore in public figure and he he he and all that. But there's a serious underlying question and asked to be addressed as well. And that is. Where the -- below this kind of behavior not the way I do have some research on this there are huge numbers shall false charges proved. False charges. Over the course of twelve years of research so this is really trivial question. And just say this -- through your shot. Or your husband or your father. Who wish being falsely accused.

This is not a no -- in the -- at the time we have left and an old by the way when I put these things out there you can you can comment on any -- If you like you know -- restrictive we we do these things in Powell not necessarily sequential. They Nelson at wrko.com. Is the email just have gotten a couple of emails what they get to them. And a little bit but let me get to a local issue is have a conversation -- took an interest in turn. The status talking about considering casinos. Alone casinos in Massachusetts to raise money. Few days ago. They decided that they're not gonna guarantee that there be an Indian licensed had no reason why the Indians this American Indians left in the Indians. -- reason why American Indians should get special consideration for a casino. But more recently there's been a big deal about banning smoking in the casinos. And indeed the states. -- crashed. -- smoking ban. And now there are some movement to try to overturn the smoking ban in the casino. And it is a work still in progress. So we'll see where leads to another door discussion with a friend. Who was a smoker. Trainees said and I thought correctly. Why shouldn't be up to the individual Washington the up to the casino -- That seeks to expand that to restaurant. Why should restaurants be able to -- smoking if they want sanctions if they want it on -- patronize your dumb. Now cigarette smoke bothers Maine so I probably wouldn't go to a restaurant that allows smoking. But I think it should be up to the individual to be able to make that decision. The proprietor the owner of the restaurant and the customers can decide but the marketplace operate. Some years ago. There was an attempt by someone to start a small -- airlines it was based in Texas.

So and trying to sneak this year who's gonna say this is smokers airline.

The government will lender it. Don't lie but no smoking is -- health hazard and a secondary smoke is a health -- Show is more recycle racing. So -- and too many calories so -- skiing. I remember getting into an argument with the doctor -- But the dangers in conclusion then this then got to get a broken leg complaints soccer so -- soccer's dangerous doesn't mean it should be bent. Now what do you think about this conversation. Is yours the smoker. You very much in favor allowing tobacco in the casinos. And then I raise the issue. About dogs in restaurants. You -- a dog. But he was appalled hug your those filthy animals in the restaurant buddy flick he favored a ban on. Cigarette smoking was okay because he does it that the dog wasn't into a tourist -- anyway.

Well French love to -- in restaurants and better things that can be said about the French. Clearly acerbic.

Before we end up with all the filthy animal is gonna make us all sick almost you have to launch gone. He he never give the dog table -- where's the dog when your reading not in the basement. There are next to the table -- all of the dog to make get sick we all be dead nobody -- have dogs. The French are not dying in Iraq more rapidly than we are -- fine I think it's great screaming kids that's a different issue. But these dogs are fun. We didn't get it. And the problem here in what was -- emblematic of this is that we so often times. Puddle on about freedom when it's something we wanna do -- when it's something we don't then free and goes out the window we can understand why they should be laws patched. Well no they shouldn't be let the market decide if nobody wants to go into a restaurant where there -- dog. People who should put big sign out that's a -- find their establishment. Devoid of customers. There balance sheet going into the red from the black and they will either have to change their policy or go lot of business. Freedom really does work. The market place really can decide and they can -- a lot better. Then a handful of individuals who think they know more than the public. The machine the contradiction to this all the time and that is precisely the problem. But a handful of legislators think they know better for the rest of us how we should or shouldn't behave. Well I would sooner go with freedom the hallmark of the greatness of this country is because. We have been freer than most of the country's natural will be changing unfortunately. Think that you manifestation. All over. Not only from banning smoking debenture Walsh faults mark -- and -- for some time. But even assuming that was pulses recently has. Yesterday where there on their way of putting -- this enormous monstrosity. Of financial regulation. And they proud along with grandson phrases about how all of them has Obama -- the biggest since the depression gonna protect consumers. I don't do any other kind it's gonna end up. It's gonna end up hamstring the country -- the regulations restricting what we can and can't do and what institutions can and can't do. And the manifestation. Of all of this will ultimately be that there will be bureaucrats in Washington that we have to be beholden to we have do. Fill everything out in -- get a version sept complicated and we will be the worse off fort peck on the provisions in this protect big banks at the expense of small banks. It's always what happens when government regulates. If you want to have a better more vigorous. More advanced country. Then let it be free. The market is not perfect it will make mistakes people will have difficulties but on net it will be a lot better. And over the long run we will all be more advanced and we will live better lives in certain -- happier life.

You don't have to -- By being beholden to Beacon Hill -- the Washington. Well that's gonna do it for us this Saturday afternoon and that philosophical mode which I -- some people think about. And hopefully we'll see you actually this is not Nelson thanks to rob Bernstein for producing. You've listened to by and succeeding W --