Jeff Perry with Howie
Mon, 14 Jun 2010|
Testimony from witnesses and police officials directly contradicts recent statements by Republican congressional candidate Jeffrey D. Perry about his actions as a Wareham police sergeant in the early 1990s, when a subordinate officer illegally strip-searched two teenage girls, according to transcripts and police reports obtained by the Globe. We will speak with Jeff about this incident.
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32218774694322. There was story. A week ago Saturday in the Cape Cod Times about the Jeff Perry UBS state rep who was running for. The the congressional seat being vacated by. The bill bell hunt he's a Republican and then he's he's been a it's the true friend of the taxpayers on the illegal alien question just law and order questions in general. And I was with them on and on that Saturday and -- the box with music Smith and Orleans and the of the story come out I didn't see a lot new really in the story. Compared to the story from a month ago. But does now Leo a globe has come up with basically the same story and it's CEO of the globe gets a wider were. A wider distribution wider circulation of the Cape Cod Times. I had people ask me on Saturday about this and in Holyoke they didn't know whether to believe the Boston Globe. Or or whether to wanted to take Jeff Perry and his word -- again the Boston Globe as you know was not a is not a friend of conservative Republicans it's not a friend of people who oppose illegal aliens they -- they're spending a lot more time on the they were investigating Jeff Perry than they ever did on. Investigating. Ted Kennedy who who someone well actually it's one Diana's car. But I do wanna have Jeff Perry on to to what talk about some of these. Beast -- charges against him in both the Cape Cod Times and the and the Boston Globe. So Jeff thanks for being with us today.
I'm happy to be on how I have to be on talk about it I've been. You know it's sensitive but came up and 2002 for a little bit to don't know and I ran the first time. At this state legislator I challenged them any friends in entrenched incumbent. And be eight summit that yeah they drop this story in October of 2000 do real walked over the side -- you know yes. -- really hit some men armed because right when I -- but apart and a lot on good terms then I didn't think it would be an issue it didn't think there was anything yet. Anyone who it criticized about I did my job about the viability we do that bad up there on the department. And it ultimately terminated and prosecuted then. Not a spot but I did everything by the book and so the article by the private about it in Cuba the voters not through it knowledge. Asked if either the front page story in a lot over what you -- In the -- thought -- was that negative buyout campaign that got hit pile of button up bump bump in politics then go earlier. The banker on -- note that there that's campaign for congress I think it -- my opponent whoever that might be. Arm would try to do it again but I had I didn't think it would be a -- and -- very well I'll be all right for. --
Well you have a Republican Party opponent of course I'm mad about you you not that I'm making any accusations here but I got vascular first I wanna say. You say you say you told Leo papers last week or last month I guess a wise the including Harold. That you notified your supervisor. And about these this incident where this guy Flanagan who later went them to the key and where he allegedly forced a -- description you -- are strapped that you said that you told that the supervisor about the incident disillusioned found out about it. But now hole now I guess the the supervisors saying he didn't hear about it until the next day it was from a cop in a neighboring town.
Yeah that it's not spent eighteen years and commemorate that shifted into like and I'm not saying -- memory is right that was just what when I met with a reported a money money part of -- that. I know the globe reported for our app and earth through adult might not -- not violent at the same thing look at it but I but I thought the barrel. I tried it can't -- every web is that about the viability and we got everything him. And and the captain by -- who made these statements -- they've got time Israel we have very nice letter what I left the apartment back in 93 you know on -- I gave that letter to the the newspaper and a letter from my -- and a personal file and all that. And I tried tried to answer every question like that the best but my memory in my memory is that I notified. I -- and Iowa not sure -- You know it. I get -- why why. Memory -- my memory if somebody else the memory I don't know that when -- situation developed. The next day one parent came in and told me as a target but that daughter had told. All our other that I never interacted with the with the but the minute tape Hewlett and I would not being well Bobby. -- behind the ftp off the game to me I believe -- but there -- wanna bet that the off the -- Someone who I had no idea was staples submitting their. Such an act I believe MI went to the parents would be up there. So the story of what he offered so maybe off this year and we were -- I will enable the -- to the email and I.
Sure it aerobic you do not believe what's it. That's right did you say to the did you say is you left the door by the way the girl lodge dropped her -- pants Furl for the offer search.
The upper third and I believe it was the opposite made those statements there that was part of the reason the -- so apparently not and I criticized for going over to the parent. I -- political opponent sort or the media. And I think it's the right thing to do to go to when there's an incident involving. A minor. I think it's the right thing to do I think -- all over the country do this specially installed sound like -- to start to the Barrett.
But -- what did you were you wanna set by the way your daughter drop two pants for the police officer you the one who said that I think I asked you this before but I'll ask you again.
Right that's that's not my memory of policy of the conversation went. I remember going over to the Barrett the volume about the suspected drug use and that there. Stay up that. But -- opera so it will admit that -- of going to the parents both me I'll bet the that the female and questioned the ultimate victim in this state. Expose yourself to demonstration didn't have any drive -- ought to -- that was the that's the very concerned they're very appropriate they were off the I'm thankful. So we had come by and then the next day the other payment to the station and said -- I support it yet. Arm that it daughter hadn't said something well yeah the bulk when that happened this situation change because we had a different side of the story.
You have a -- correct. Aren't you have a daughter correct. Starting out do you have a daughter. I have I have a son and granddaughter.
Okay well I mean if you're if you're -- so why put cop came do you would said -- that the grand daughter had dropped to piceance. For cop I mean I think yeah I think you'd be somewhat taken aback by that wouldn't troop.
I would probably have reacted the same way that that the parent of this girl that they were there at -- late at night. Their daughter was I believe sleeping at a friend's house and this is the only side of the story that they had. And they appreciate your upcoming over the -- and obviously that changed when the dart game all. And told the parents the different side of the story. And then the father correctly and the father handled everything correctly in my in my players there into the station at a -- bit different I was very we need to look into it. And that's all of that's what it says the up there was vault into the station which reports already -- for Israelis the the the you know up the chain if you will it would notify. And ultimate in short order the -- I was terminated. The prosecuted and he -- the biggest the biggest. Disappointment and the biggest baby up to date so whatever award we wanna you is it that I hope that someone who I worked with with a number of years. And I thought he was -- of the truth -- under the terms of the other day that he and to the daily well until they.
I I don't I don't I don't know where I read this way but I -- someone on one of the message boards for one of the newspapers that you visited this -- that -- the guy that went to the key in investment caught the corrupt cop. Flanagan did I read that you visited him in prison is that correct.
They're let me get to get the truth tired I don't I bought one that got older peers. That he was being falsely accuse them. They'll be up -- the office stability issue -- and I think the people in general know that sometimes went off that come into contact with. But juvenile somewhat suspect Democrat and they often not often but sometimes make activation again officers. And up the not to be true and I had no idea that this stop there was able to do that for that turn the big guy so I believe the up.
He was backed up by an adult -- in the the -- the girl that they did juvenile female was backed up by an adult who would witness the entire case who was a neighbor of the have the of the convenience store correct.
That's -- always area but not at the open that it may not let up.
So you did visit planning and in the day and in the it in the can and then it.
Did I wanted to be able to confront them and you know what. And they hear from him what really happened and he did he did and that's the -- you know after of course and eat it broke down and it you know it's it's it's so white fluff than. Believe me LA and a lot madam I learned that you can't -- trust people and sometimes people what you're gonna that was about. I I try not to. The bit about that not be transferred to other people but. And it sticks with you when you have someone who has worked would you know look that you bring in the eye and says this is not true that did not happen at the way they're saying it and you know every officer of the department except Hawaii. I -- letter after these allegations came out and believed to their proper there -- supported this off the.
It in the in the globe story noticed that -- Carolina captain Carolina he was -- wrote to the the glowing recommendation we -- left the department a -- it's rare that I think the chief as well -- they didn't that -- was seen anything positive about should they declined to comment. To this story I mean it seems like they're they're -- like they got a hands off attitude -- June now.
I I wouldn't it's evident that I would describe. Know that these reporters and I'm not I'm not picking on immediate horizon very and a candidate for congress but from what I've heard you know -- and -- reporters. We're sitting next to their property away from the come out. But more than you know more than just the minute meeting. Information that and they're great it made it that they're sitting in the next to they're all waiting for them to come out and I'm not gonna use the word -- but others have. And I don't blame they're all retire I don't blame them for not wanting to get involved but all things that happens. Bob. There were allegations very they're all apartment that there were some type of its cover up. And I'm. They were there I don't know who -- don't -- incorrectly but I believe that you might have been named one record but it you know we're all ultimately that's that's not. Over the -- US court before stated I would never that the plan. And they gave me -- very letter then I don't why I haven't part of these guys you know our time our.
Now what -- 11 other question I want ask you about -- heard people talking about it at the Tea Party yesterday again it was on the blogs and again there's nothing wrong with this but. You coffins salesman after you moved to Florida after you left the department.
Are -- but I did there I didn't have a business interest and eight year old supply something a little bit of Florida. But -- if -- and -- open up a few different bit but the look on the actors -- on the front and something. All outside investigation firm.
I think the point being made is by your opponents is that you know like why would someone leave the department. You know I mean it's a it's a good job you know you got the pension behind you you know for all black kind of stuff insurance. And they go to and moved to Florida to bid to become a quarter -- salesman and if well some.
We'll let me until we clarified that. But yet tell them the way of putting a better look entered they had was three. More than three years after their yeah so what if I didn't run away to Florida some of the blood. Completely -- they're both of Florida a three year. After their split in Florida -- bailout we didn't we can only -- carrier immediately you're never of the blog bank. And down. I we all accompanying that we're talking about so I don't think -- wrong -- On your company in Florida and.
Nor -- don't whine don't I am just asking you about it because again -- being asked about it you know on the on the street million norms that that Tea Party and it's on the district but there -- a lot of they're a lot of people -- follow on the blogs in the stories in the paper.
Well are people who were trying to you know. But it timetable we know that they're so that meant that I heard it a few times that you know I I retired from the sleep but no one off the Florida. And yet it's it's I believe capital bank -- Arab a lot of people Clark and I would if you know.
if I don't what I believe it what I wrote about myself I would leave my house see their -- that's true.
Well this house. Hmmm I don't know how do you prefer to Alibaba armada Harvard segregated. I wasn't brought up in the you know up political family I would the first foreign my -- go to college and work our way up her law degree going part time. --
Jeff I gotta I gotta break right now but I appreciate your coming on I know this president does subject for you to discuss we'll have you wanna -- different circumstances.
You're black bottom I'm frank good answer people but certainly get the truth out there.
Thank you thank you a very representative Jeff Perry of sandwich somehow we --

