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Such as welfare and food stamps is gaining steam. On Beacon Hill so there's nothing like popular support for doing what's right even Democrats will go along with what's right if they -- popular demand for. You just have to push up.

Tour false however absolutely I think the system is very very reflective of public attitude and public mood and vehemence and any and mood she moods vary in a lot depends upon the economy. And a lot it takes a lot Todd for people to get to eight tipping point. I believe we're at or very close to a tipping point. On immigration you've seen hall where two tipping in the direction of much more rigorous enforcement of the border border control. And resistance to the notion that we can't do anything about it. Everybody's here for about nine purpose -- are all lies your everybody know you're -- you're racist if you express any concern about the incoherent. Application need coherent enforcement. The different the different attitudes. That or you know condemned by folks at the New York Times had -- we were were at a tipping point I mean I think we were actually edit. A couple years ago that might have been a little lull because of a presidential campaign. But you recall very clearly when McCain and Kennedy senators McCain and Kennedy try to do this -- version of so called comprehensive immigration reform. It blew up in a blow up -- because of what you just said the sentiments of the people were expressed very directly.

Jeff Perry who's running for congress for the is seated bill Delahunt is leaving. He's from sandwich she's filing an amendment -- filed an amendment to the budget that would force state departments are -- tax Payer funded assistance. To check the applicant with federal immigration authorities. If our housing programs had this policy the president's aunt wouldn't have been able to get access to our public housing says. President says Jeff Perry state treasurer and independent gubernatorial candidate Tim -- got behind the proposal. Charlie Baker got behind the proposal even the Governor Deval Patrick lying through his teeth. Said that he supports it he says I think we're doing a pretty good job but there's always room for improvement in blocking illegals from getting state service stuff.

all those folks are on board starting with Jeff Perry but Jeffrey is just consistent on -- wanna give credit where credit is due. He would have been on this issue and in an aggressive. Way. -- well before -- the other. But I know even when Deval Patrick Tim -- a -- on board. They know yeah out the at all they listened to people they watch people's reactions they hear people's. Words and language and it's not really driven by -- race or racism. It's driven by immense frustration. In the I can be used the -- in coherence but maybe I might use a little harsh word. The complete and -- in defense ability of policies that let people come up come from his visit there and beyond just show up and get public housing and other public assistance. It's crazy what else it's an unsustainable follow what.

LC is a state of Massachusetts. Do when. To betray the people of the state in giving away things to people in the country illegally so they're eligible for state -- what else. Wealth. Welfare. To vote so they can vote for Democrats this Welsh well if you think about it so. They -- whatever the rules are they're gonna find a way to cheat the rules we've seen this in in many different cases. We've seen what acorn does in the videotapes who -- planned parenthood does plan parent which is supposedly supposed to. Those who may be fair minded not be lever UCC give liberals the chance if they're in a position of influence. They will cheat to hurt America and are ordered to -- hurt the state in this is what this is still a.

The idea that anything that hard working taxpayers. Are paying for is being given to people who should be shipped out is so abhorrent. That you know it's gotta be rampant in the state. I don't I don't know how rampant today as I don't think it's a very rampant but. Whether it's Deval Patrick making the point most recently -- Jeff Perry with the drafting in the filing of the amendment. It teach it should be filtered out. To the extent that anything and everything can be filtered out it should but be filtered out tomorrow also the horrendous it should be limited in time. Or duration and they should obviously be limited to people who are here legally and have fallen on tough. Time's not people who came from admittedly difficult places to live and to raise a family. But come here literally just in order to receive the I think Chuck -- you would concede the point that a lot of people who have come here. Illegal. Desperate for work. And -- great workers now that that doesn't mean. Hey you can you know you wrap your arms around them and say we love everybody come on into the big tent. In get all these benefits but did desperate for work and -- very good work -- work with work ethic. Distinguish that separate data from those people who can show up put the attitude. I AM here in America we as we -- my where my benefits -- separate issue the -- but that in this case that's not the issue.

Whether they're coming with good attitudes are bad attitudes if they're coming illegally they've all got a bad attitude. The good attitude is you go through the system and you take your time and you come here the right way I realize that's not what Democrats want. But that's what we should insist upon we should be appalled that our state government ever let it come to this forget about the the -- to stand up now and and try to block it. It's a he's Deval Patrick. Supports instate tuition rates for people in the country illegally so what he pretends to be on board with this movement to crack down. To require computer checks you know he's trying to -- all the people of Massachusetts has been.

Say what does that tell you tells you that politically he has figured something out he has discerned something about the public temper on this. And that the public temper runs decidedly against the notion of Barack Obama's -- Going to the head of some list and the Bob Boston Housing Authority getting house and now she's asylum so that's a little bit different but. Public temper runs against that type of thing. And you know the instate tuition and driver's licenses for people who -- here. Illegally I don't think there's any reasonable person in America who -- who could disagree with what you said a moment ago when you said that. -- you and you elect a frame and a Democrat Republican terms but nobody should be resistant to the idea. Of a co parent and rigorously enforced immigration policy. I don't know how coherent did this but we both know everybody knows it's not enforced it is not a forced at all which is why Arizona and -- the California.

So the national policy the national policy of horses to allow as many people stroll over the border one to two million a year responsible. But the state policy and him you know liberal controlled state like Massachusetts is the same because they feel let more illegals. On civil roles of auto stay public Jose nor welfare or Medicaid the idea that they get Medicaid. Is so appalling we spend ten billion. -- every year is fifty billion dollars of spending by the state it in the state of Massachusetts. 20%. -- spending. Is Medicaid alone. It so disgusting to think that people of the country illegally would be -- why don't. I've said it before it would -- let's just send the checks down to Mexico. And let them stay there I get free medical care but to bring them hair and encouraged somewhat free medical if it's insane. All right I've set and a few talks 617. 2666860. Can you believe this is going on. What is the appropriate punishment. For members of the legislature. Who would stand in the way of standing up to this abhorrent policy -- you're on WRKO.

Hey you guys you don't -- I wanna make one comment I believe. Tom mentioned that you know they work really hard they do work really hard. -- If we need three to five times what we make now without paying many taxes. -- think we would go to their country. If I it would -- right now. And I could make three to five times. I would be there national.

Sure you when you go to Mexico sure.

And eat and -- guys work hard but there they can read it but it works for one month that big money back to wherever. That's that's a six hour for them back and all your point -- what if I could go to Canada and make -- despite Paris what I make now on the contact much and they're.

I don't blame them for coming I don't blame them for coming in there trying to secure their family human nature of this argument I blame -- officials who distort. Good policy for their own political benefit.

I just don't know I DC I disagree with you on that last statement you made I don't know how much political benefit there is to it. They can't vote they do not -- acorns job is to register the network acorn does. There -- the voter fraud business we know this can you name -- elect I don't -- messages habits -- out of Massachusetts Neman electioneering Massachusetts.

That you think has been affected the outcome has been affected by the presence of illegal aliens in the particular district and then they then voting. In that in in that election -- by the way don't Democrats fight all the time to make sure war. That we don't check. When people come to the polls to vote. Don't Democrats fight to make sure there's no -- requirements -- vehemently as -- some some do and others -- applause in the state of Massachusetts have -- been able to get approval for just showing your license when you lot of I think I think I think it's I don't know if that's permissible I don't know it's solid policy a year down any rational human being would say you don't going to vote with showing -- you without shown the door for Democrats fight it -- they use the old racism thing all there phony. Bigoted hateful arguments to divide the country and to get their way but we know what the true motive as and that's to make sure people can vote who aren't supposed to vote. Jeff you're -- WRQ good morning.

They thought thanks guys did because -- that there was one illegal and I can guarantee there was always one illegal loaded. In the election that it matches so. It is going on and I don't care how hard they work. -- from Ireland China Mexico it doesn't matter how hard they work well it did not supposed to be here on the Internet as if Mexico which they -- what -- seven order. They're gonna put up outside. If some across the intimate corners some of what they show them how coy about railing into Mexico we're doing next. And we're not doing it on our southern border because Mexico -- to get rid of people. Could get a look at this state and what's what's western union's biggest customer Mexico ownership money back from here. To air. And the only check the little 101000 dollars in one in one number wire -- and you know it's not over 101000 calls -- wire transfer. The shipping billions of dollars back to Mexico now how come we can't stop that to take away the -- we magnet we got adored.

You know what you do Jeff we should hire the Mexicans this contractors -- protect our border.

Bingo yeah. Then why -- they want. -- just can't be a question about -- oh okay a lot of them don't vote a lot of them get more than a closer look at all. But they get into the system and then that Democrats -- just might look how many people we haven't assist them. We have to raise more taxes we have to make another Barack proceed we have to take more people work because there's more people at a system that how they don't like it would this year numbers they'll get there really voted not right now biggest one more people -- so they could say look we have a lot of people we need more money thank you very in my.

Finally that they go thank you Jeff good called the business model Democrats is bigger government you need more people to make bigger government anymore depended people. Like Barbara Barbara your next NW RQ good morning.

Yet in nine common side. Good morning great subject. But that -- break -- come up coming into the country to live coming and there's a lot of people including my Irish immigrant who had to go to our silent. Did it right waited so a lot of folk and country -- right -- There are people would get arrested for not paying parking tickets this states. That's pretend minor offense it continued to what he -- and coming here legally in this country. I can't have filled with illegal aliens who have committed -- crimes. Just not. I -- Arizona I want to stay and do what nationwide. Because it had been taught the key to compete -- to a legal.

you know Bob -- raises series a good points and I think he'll be a number of states that begin to mimic if not identically at least in close fashion. What happened in Arizona what has been done and Arizona out of immense frustration and notwithstanding the accusations of race racism. All that type of all that type of behavior. I get my disagreement with Todd is that this is somehow or other grand democratic designed of course it was the Democrats. As much as the Republicans in congress. Who resisted the McCain Kennedy proposal on this there are many many sensible Democrats and shake the head in speak just the way Barbara spoke and in many ways that the way Jeff -- the previous caller spoke as well just say look. An office and.

Our guys out of all acting but no luck had a problem where some question on illegal. And that the guy that voted analysts because illegal aliens. And nothing out. Nobody was bad is the question as far as bringing an illegal aliens he had the -- Mexico.

Yeah bush -- Bush out of bush was terrible on this issue if you if you're approaching the issue from Todd -- Jeff's perspective. George Bush the president was terrible on this issue I just can't wasn't much for the behind.

Big people you talk to people who live would be my dog Olympic compatibility maybe that would overriding with the big playmaker -- give them credit I give up friendly as they become the majority I never thought anybody doesn't -- in my life really mad gunmen would gathered at the front door so the women -- for them to get AM. And it would -- down that they want parent might.

Well that's certainly beyond the --

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John thank you for the call -- the amendment filed by Jeff Perry acquire requires that anyone attempting to receive a public benefit in the state of Massachusetts. Would first have to be verified. Under the federal. Computer program it's called save young and at this is available but not in wide use because nobody wants to actually knows we all have they actually -- the driving force behind say is that. Rahm Emanuel -- what is his skin to what was the scam what look at the scam was this he understood what I've -- to try to share with you and it's from this topic comes up. That there are a lot of sensible. Not group moderate. Centrist Democrats who say look this is absolutely insane must.

And is awaiting a more people eat your green and -- these. Of the Hispanic caucus because -- do is probably figure out a way to get more in his country illegally he would design a computer system. Both his own polls and it right off the bat so -- would work you can't trust the Democrats on anything is good for America. True or false coming up my WRKO.

And I don't care how hard they work. The ship from Ireland here right now Mexico and it doesn't matter how hard they work. Then he did not supposed to be a hit the crowd. In the back corner by the way they don't -- I'm going I'm really -- friends -- doing that then how come we're not doing it unmarked on the water can.

I commend you know I when he did you went nationwide. Because it didn't happen but the key to continue to do it may -- it.

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They can grow from beyond the -- but she's. I don't -- I don't want okay. Go into detail we're talking illegal immigration Jeff Perry is here state rep from sandwich is running for congress in the I was at thirteenth fourteenth 23 district. 716. Which one is it. The okay. And youth -- proposed an amendment that would block keep illegals from getting. State benefits for the impoverished. Well why would they be getting any benefits right now is that already blocked.

Well that's a good question and I think sometimes you have to block and sometimes no it's not it depends on the state -- depend on the policy. I'm doing it thank Massachusetts before you give any. Taxpayer subsidized benefit at all why don't we Jack well we opt in to what's called -- David SAV system. The verification system run by the federal government and make sure. Benefit the housing benefit to welfare benefit education benefit whatever it is let's make sure that. Before someone get this state benefit that they're here legally that they're not in jail that Terry Kennedy has have been stalling. And that they're not collecting benefits set another status seems simple enough.

Yeah but are you reacting to and establish problem or is this just kind of a preemptive thing.

It definitely not a preemptive thing I have been working on a big issue is Tom -- knows for a long time I've filed this. I've published the freestanding bill as well this. Amendment exactly last year and they allegedly studied the issues so we'll see if -- study showed up. Now look I think there the problem out there and do I know the magnitude of the problem in Massachusetts now because nobody's counting and nobody checking. But I do know that there are approximately. 75200000. Illegal immigrants in Massachusetts -- my suspicion is an anecdotally. I have been told and heard. That there are some folks who are getting benefits -- don't think we have to look too far one almost famous people in the a in the world the president of the United States is. Thought it getting taxpayer subsidized benefits there. -- I think it just made it's that it makes good public policy to make sure our tax dollar of the going to. Folks who are here illegally and you know -- in this fiscal environment or going to be this week -- in budget we're gonna be cutting benefits. Do people who really need them we're gonna be cutting programs that are really good programs. We've got to be cutting local aid which is gonna mean me. Laying off a police firing teachers. Sure we make sure that when we agree on a benefit one we agree -- a program that only those individuals who are entitled to. -- get those benefits because of this citizenship receives them it did but it's been no brainer to me but for some reason. The legislative leaders in the past but I haven't wanted to do and I hope. That's because most physical crime -- because of the momentum of the issue because of the national debate that we're able to do some common sense legislation.

Jeff I just wanna give you want. Says there are 220000. Illegals living in in Massachusetts. So by the numbers bigger than what you suspect.

And I suspect that the problem is bigger you know nobody checks -- if nobody's looking -- you hear all these stories that we all do. The problem is bigger and I know in every legislator knows that. They get called every week from someone who did it in American system has been here for a long time there they've been paying their taxes they're going to be productive members of society for a for decades in many cases and then they -- to erupt but they needed temporary help from government and they can't get it why can't they get it because there's no money and that's the -- program.

Jeff that -- got the Governor Deval Patrick is quoted in the paper today as saying he thinks this idea makes sense to you by eight he is. Endorsement his embrace some consideration of this do you think he's just. Playing against.

Well I think he's playing a little bit in the game because -- the same person who is pushing. For benefits taxpayer subsidized benefits for educational benefit higher educational benefit college benefit but I guess that the separate policy question -- well.

This is the same policy question which is what is your attitude. Towards people aren't supposed to be in the country do you want to embrace some or do -- do you wanna get them. Tell it to go back and all the rules.

And that's why don't think he's being had genuine on it but. He's also been pushing for other things that you know could arguably be benefits for illegal -- and so. Yeah no I I think speedy defense is the political side in this country in Massachusetts. Doesn't the one issue that does a lot of issues that people are. Pretty divided island you know we have these great debate -- You know sometimes them on the losing side but -- a bit but one issue that no matter when it comes up and in what context. I don't hear from people want benefits for really sort of I hear from angry citizens. Who are tired of paying -- active and the people here from most whenever I'm on the radio what I get up this show which are terribly expensive to do this morning. It's going to be -- legal immigrants who have called the office. Bush said. How dare someone put maybe illegal very. In the same category -- is illegal or we know what we all believe in immigration well believe that that the American story that melting pot. -- the bottom line though is are we all nation of -- not. Are we a nation of ordered -- all the rules that do we put people who break the rules in the same position as those of all rules.

Yeah Jeff I think those concerns that you media that I have always heard from people who've gone through the legal processor which is. Extremely. Lengthy and very frustrating people become legitimately. Understandably furious. When they say look I've played by the rules on my mom my brother somebody played by the rules waited 8019. Yes go through form -- the form of the consulate. And everybody else is just kind of run and by a lot of fun all the way to the AM on the way to the picnic it's kind of crazy.

It is in the greater public all -- that is that there's. First someone who was thinking about coming to the country legally or illegally it tells them that they just get here by the way to get here. Participate in the underground economy take advantages of the opportunity of this great nation and you know what so later that government. Other be the state -- federal government is gonna give you -- the other gonna give you benefits and don't worry about that process because it is a terrible part of that. The one thing that they do here that is consistent. Along with people not -- benefits for low really low literate is that the process. Of applying for citizenship whether -- and are out of the United States. Is broken it's not functioning it takes way too long and -- congress and the president and that -- the book the former congressman Farr president who can go back for quite a few. You know how many years have failed on this issue and it's because the Washington DC folks the president and congress they've been. They've been too afraid or whatever the reason is that take up this issue it is the political hot button until what's happening.

Why you don't Arizona that's why you get Arizona it's precisely because of their inaction Jeff Gary is a stay right from the -- he's running for congress Jeff can you -- besides not to tuning. That that the president's son who's living illegally in public housing can give us any other scary stories like that.

Well there's certainly -- there -- called well this just last Friday for example Heather eight a young increment my office and he. He that there -- told me that he was there any illegal there it is his. Parents brought in here and he walked did not immediately congressional candidate someone running for congress without the consider the dream act would just federal federal proposal. And so as we're talking I happened further background and he told me. That he went to they've -- community college. On an instate tuition -- And I asked -- how he did that anything well they never asked -- provide documents they -- that they were I resided and so that's direct. That's not even. Anecdotal that direct witness testifying. That in institution of state government. Didn't ask didn't Jack -- of the don't ask don't tell no policy of immigration in Massachusetts so. You know we have we have the governor was pushing in state tuition. But quite frankly I'm wondering -- even need -- you know based upon that -- the -- opening day here I want -- beat anyone even -- if there's an immigration status.

Very that's very interest CN may be that there are only pushing. The did the thing publicly like the governor is heard referred to in state tuition for illegals. In order to win points with the minority community -- era WRKO with Jeff Perry good morning -- job.

And more critical -- SH I want to know. That's Q are you -- you be pro active thing going to -- schedule tragedy is illegal immigrants go after Portugal want -- be pro active. We when we were still. I'm sort of this mission -- country can do a lot sisters. A few more luck snubbed by -- a federal government ordered haven't groups in this country that I don't wanna. You know. I don't I you'd order a debt debt Washington totally broken and we to stroll along --

Well within and we need to know I think there's what's behind your question Joe. We needs another we're sending people down to Washington knew who try to correct the mess there who we're gonna be aggressive in going you know that your policy is -- your got aches. Over the idea that we're getting used to the way we are.

Well absolutely and I think -- can't speak to this. Who has experience -- the they'll no one has been more aggressive on me in the enforcement side of the illegal immigration at the -- and I have. I have filed legislation that all the amendments and if so fortunate enough to being congress are we doing the same thing I'd I think it's pretty simple. If we take away the ability of the illegal wouldn't be a benefit in the United States that we punished severely punish employers. Who hire an employee illegal immigrant. And if we make sure that one law enforcement come into contact with even illegal immigrant that they. A process and deported we're gonna take away the -- freely lowered to come to the United States and the first play and that's how we get out the problem and I will be I pledged. Don't make many campaign promises but I can tell you that pledge that I will be very aggressive and very hardline. Barack downside. Of a legislator in Washington -- important enough to.

I can I can also vote for Jeff's sister in this Jeff maybe just before Todd cause you had mentioned that you were. You've been consistent on this issue. And aggressive to use Joe's words. Aggressive about it for several years now it's not just a Johnny come lately campaign issue so. To Joe at least have to provide some satisfaction. My own observation and experience -- remember he -- that Jeff was actually when you say you remember Jeff at the Statehouse how -- you thought you our -- just the buck in Iraq a lot to have an effect Jeff Perry thanks are being -- a receiver in spots and I just taken our call Jeff Jeff ferry running for.

Congress now on the southern shore. It's -- toxic CD WRK. You know. While the rest of the world known as -- and -- music players have to shuffle. We'll Paulson talks.

Well wolf both from -- plan to get your day started. Good morning Tuesday morning already out there hello -- so.

No sunset out of the north today half half half half had been watching I haven't -- I keep looking that way -- they -- should you know me well when you go to Alaska. Yeah you're one of you gonna be looked into the north. I will -- OK good I'll check out the north trying get their Joe your NW RQ good morning.

Good morning no good to past the.

The gentleman now he had an illegal aliens office why didn't he call life.

Wound good question Jeff -- is not here anymore for that. That is a good question I think that kind of vehemence is what we need everybody's too polite about this stuff.

Yeah I mean he had them they would do invite you invited these just sit down have do what you with a broken heroes.

But you wanna know what else it's very interesting about this whole thing if they've called ice if Jeff Perry's office and called I say what is said well. You know we're too busy don't bother.

Yeah that's true. So everybody -- back and just let it happen.

I think this -- thank you for regular point Joe because I hadn't thought of that when we're talking a new worry what that. If you look a little concerned over how -- you know why I do enjoy it I think the image for Joe to suggest that the guys. A thief. Is I think a little bit of a stretch of line which we know what a -- fists and his. Taking something that doesn't belong to him by trickery this guy is by. Happenstance he was brought in by his parents he -- he plastic Cape Cod Community College you know what Jeff parry told us. Nobody ever asked Greg just assumed he says well I live here and bounced Laura and take you live Spybot block. And they just give him the instate. Tuition Jeff also mentioned to us three things policies that should be in place that he says would. Remove the incentives -- the you know the -- view you remove the incentives these perverse incentives are we have I know -- and I have a right ricochet just come from. So those are co conspirators okay people who put the people failed to check. The people put the import policies employees employers who want to take advantage of their us some if not many their boys who want to take advantage of low cost labor never win all the contracts against more legitimately. Operating. And employers that's why -- the government has a responsibility got wrecked -- why governor Ventura governor has been too well that's good question but Jeff himself I mean I think I think chipped in a very good job and a few minutes that he had because he pointed out luck. You know I know some people wanna beat up on Barack Obama -- on this. But let's let's let's acknowledge what's been going on congress for many years Republicans as well as democratic congresses and presidents for -- is Republican as well as democratic. Have been looking the other way on this de sac like hoping there goes -- his neighbors that.

And they tell -- like you're saying now while India you know you have to be nice about this you've got to be polite know that Joe is right if if if somebody's going into a government building and I definitely I -- based in citizen's arrest when you see somebody who has an accent brown skin and you say wary of papers and the guy says set screw. -- May need it a safe zone to be in the country illegally we have to change that we have to make that not a say it's almost it's also pot I mean let's acknowledge it's also pot of human nature to be generally more kind than vicious. And while you say as a policy. He had -- we have to fix this and we do. In the individual cases the guy they can -- comes to you that you're the young woman is looking for work or somebody else. His say you know what it is there is the milk of human kindness that lurks within everybody even the tough guy like you if people who are in positions of authority are so empathetic than they're not capable of properly exercising their authority now -- we need to throw amount get new people. If if empathy pervades everything they do and makes -- dysfunctional we need other people shake your WRQ good morning.

Jacket more dom dot good seat. I'm curious -- It there ramification -- the illegals in this country. -- but. I've never seen you know I thought Jack -- dollar equivalent. Associated with with illegal you know like. Illegals cost this country. -- thousands of dollars per year.

You would have to be it would have to be. In the hundreds of millions if not billion of dollars just in California. Arizona. New Mexico and Texas destroyed hundreds California's. Hospitals schools -- go -- shot up.

They bank what California the effect especially absolutely.

That and a lot of voters stupid things in California but yeah I know it's they had to know you spent at a huge problem I don't deny it.

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200 plus thousand here in Massachusetts volatility up up.

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