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Good afternoon Boston it's the Charlie Manning show welcome welcome welcome to our show. We'd love to have you call win 6172666868. The number. In if you'd like to email us at CU for Charlie Manning. At wrko.com. Steve Manning at wrko.com. Welcome to our show today. -- we haven't been on that long this week a fourth day of the Charlie Manning show. And already we're changing the face of Massachusetts. Politics. If you seen the Boston Herald. This -- a great front page they used to it's a great job with the Boston Herald front pages. Intel low lying and stand in it big law and and they've got a picture Deval Patrick. And it says -- devolved may go on right wing radio shows to defend his record. -- all about this whole story is. The governor came on the Charlie Manning show on Monday he was one of our first guest along with Scott Brown and we were fair -- and we let him answer the questions and we didn't have a chance to take some calls so we said. He governor would you come back on and come for an hour and we'll get someone to get some -- are in here are some in Chinese food. And then we'll take calls from the listeners and he said you know what Charlie I'll do it didn't he didn't need. Yes script did so now the whole hat -- strategy is changed he's gonna come on all kinds of talk shows. He says he may even go on how we car. And how we is welcome written him a nice welcoming call him in The Herald today I'm sure when the governor reads it. He'll wanna come on. And it's all because he came on the Charlie Manning show any had a good time.

You regret -- you're gonna show.

Well thank you governor I appreciate it. Anyway one of the big things that really. Has changed for the Democrats is. They didn't think they had a talk to regular folks they didn't think they had to go on talk shows. And -- come here on W market in my show or how we show or to the boys in the morning. And instead. They watched what happens during the campaign between Scott Brown and Martha Coakley. Scott was as you all know was on our shows all the time on talk radio he was great. He got to talk about the issues he got to reached thousands and thousands and thousands of people. And -- almost never won on talk radio. In fact they tried to stick around to show near the is the last weekend that the campaign was was approaching in she was going down in the polls. And that's when she said. Well isn't Curt Schilling really a Yankee fans and everybody almighty god this lady doesn't get it. So now. The Democrats have figured there'd wanna come on talk radio and we think it's great and we want to have everybody on all the time. In especially governor if you're listening. We're gonna hold you to your word that you're gonna come back in command and take calls. In infect. We're gonna have the chairman of the Democratic Party John Walsh who was the vol Patrick's campaign manager he's gonna be coming on. And we're also gonna have the chair of the I wonder she likes being called chairman or chairwoman -- chair. Jennifer Nasr who's the chair of the Republican Party so we're gonna have some fun in the second hour. But here we are in the first hour in if you haven't seen it yet if you haven't listened to it yet. -- what can we play. The amazing. Little speech that Patrick Kennedy gave on the floor of the US house Patrick Kennedy. The the congressman from Rhode Island has one of the best nicknames and politics thanks Howie Carr. Patches Kennedy is in patches we're depending on you son and yesterday during the debate on it at the an amendment by Dennis Kucinich. A moon moons that moon that moved back -- for president I mean this guy is from Mars he so far out there. Anyway Patrick it's up to speak in here's what he says.

If you want to know where cynicism is since. Wouldn't that there's one. -- people in this gallery. We're talking about -- matchup what he forced seven on the -- we're about war and case. Three billion dollars a thousand lives and know who else. You want to know what the American public instead. That that because there are not seeing that congress do the work that they're sent to do it because the that's the -- the United States is not public the most significant issue of national importance and that allay that lives down in the nation. During the service of our country and it just.

Well the national press corps right.

Here's Patrick. Weeding these papers around he looks totally out of control. -- school -- into the microphone now his father was known of course Teddy. From giving those type the speeches in the past we all remember when he used to hold -- Viciously attacked judge Bork when he was nominated for the Supreme Court. And I'll always felt that was the moment when things changed in Washington and became hold a weak -- But Patrick stands up there he's wave in the papers he's attacking the press he's talking about Afghans -- wide. Why why there's no press covering that's the did you that's what he said did you ever see Teddy attack the press. Of course not who's gotten better press over the years than anybody but the Kennedy. They should never attack the press and of course in this -- H. Everybody is in the press room. Watching the speeches on television instead of sitting up in the gallery but of course Patrick doesn't really get that. So we have to start talking about the whole Patrick who keep saying. It's it's amazing. Course we know he's not running there's gonna be a good -- down there may be the Republicans can pick off his feet. But give us a call what did you think if you just heard it or when you start on television about Patrick Kennedy's. -- little short speech before the congress yesterday during the debate on the Kucinich amendment. Let's go to the call 6172666868. Fred in debt and your first this hour on the Charlie Manning so hey Fred.

I good morning god knows I wanna congratulate you'll -- Job and he's. -- The thing that I want to mention about. -- I think you're absolutely right right on the money. Presses the terrible. The it's is that the sudden sell papers.

on -- covering the war in Afghanistan.

Yeah because that might look Hillary -- to. If they can be yes.

Fred they are all kinds. It's all kinds of reporters over there imbedded with the troops we see them every night on television they're putting their lives on the line yet to be out there with the Marines in the rest of our great troops. To send this back the pictures of this war.

If they put these back and that's -- in law still. What would you want to hold a whole war. -- well our war coverage every night.

Not not a now -- I'll. And at least. If we got in this soldiers have bid duo would God's sake think a better -- a lot of -- And yet it right.

Fred we all want them to come home. We all want our men and women home I'm so happy that we did. That we have one already in Iraq in that we're gonna be bringing our troops home. And now President Obama I I don't agree with them on many things. But instead of cotton in running like so many other members of his party -- of he's sending in the Marines to finish the job and Afghanistan. So we can get all of our men and women home doesn't that make sense.

Well we're saying is. In what what what is that yes that they well what is that thing of all when we get out of their lately it's gonna go back the way -- what.

Well let's hope not thanks for the call we really appreciate it 6172666868. -- Patrick Kennedy's rants before congress yesterday -- and let me let me tell you what this bill is about. Dennis Kucinich files an amendment. That says we have to pull the troops out of Afghanistan. In thirty days. In other words the normal cut and run type of amendment that the Democrats file especially the far left members. So this is in the house. We have ten members of the House of Representatives. One reason that this didn't get much coverage is that. Everybody saw how superfluous -- was. It was one of the silly things that a guy like Kucinich would file and it -- debate. And of course it wasn't going anywhere it was it was overwhelmingly defeated I think only 65. Members of the congress voted for. But guess what. Head out of that ten congressman. That we have in Massachusetts. Either of them voted for Kucinich. For the Kucinich amendment to pull the troops out in thirty days. The only two who didn't -- Steve lynch. From -- Boston and build -- hunt from Quincy who as we all know is it running for reelection but the other eight. All voted with this moon that Kucinich to pull the troops out. So if Mike -- want to know is your congressmen. You know he voted with Kucinich if Ed Markey is your congressmen he voted with Kucinich if Niki Tsongas. Niki Tsongas Scott Brown one yurt district overwhelmingly. What are you doing taking a vote with the moon bats in Washington. About hiding and running from Afghanistan. -- We've got to get Iran and ask her about this it just makes no sense at all that someone. That they're not getting the message not getting what the what the people of Massachusetts want. They -- course we want our troops home but we want to win. Click play the -- Patrick Kennedy again and give us a call here at 6172666868. US talk about this way. To press people in the gallery. Is -- ready as he sounded in giving that speech. He didn't vote for key was smart enough he's -- he could have voted for he's not running for reelection. But even he knew it was a bad ID year. It reminds me of during the tough days of the Iraq War when Harry Reid looked in the camera and said. We have already lost we have already lost in the in in Iraq and it's time to bring the troops home. In a course banks to General Petraeus and and the surge we've won. Although remember what the moon that's called them they call them general betray us in those big full page newspaper ads they took. You know general it's just serve in the country. But that's who are. Eight congressmen. All in well seven congressmen and one congresswoman. All went a long -- They went along with the -- left fringe of the Democratic Party. -- No wonder Patrick cuts are we excited about it 2666868. The number.

Even -- but what he forced seven on the 288.

Well I can see why you don't wanna talk about Eric -- Members of the Democrat party that's that's a pretty big scandal you have a guy that looks like he's being. Maligned in kicked out of congress because he would have voted against the health care bill which will be coming up very soon let's grab another call here Kevin from Newbury port. You're on with chuck O'Keefe cue from Newbury port -- around with Charlie Manning.

charity I don't today all right how about you. Until very well thank you my question Charlie is that is what exactly. Are we trying to win.

What you wanna do is stabilize. The country. Under. Government. They can control. The country. Just like we have one in Iraq you saw what happened over the weekend. The terrorist. That the al-Qaeda is were out there trying to intimidate people they were going door to door in the little town saying. We're gonna be blowing up the polling places you better not go and vote. And I think the turnout I've read with 70%. Of the people in Iraq were brave enough to go out and vote. For leadership of the country now they're not people than any of us would vote for but there at least having the chance to pick your leaders. And that's what I think we need to do in Afghanistan it makes no sense. To -- run the way eight of our members of our congress including. -- guy at their John Tierney to steer media rep from Newbury port. Congressman from Newbury -- your guy John Tierney voted yesterday to cut and run. And and believe -- allow the Taliban to come in take over again and bring their friends al-Qaeda back.

Not the I disagree with purity and I am very encouraged with the the voting turnout I -- I think along those lines it's a wonderful thing that we accomplished over there and I am not for cut and run. What I believe both patches might have been referring to a median some degree is. -- and non coverage of other. Reasons we maybe in Afghanistan. John. Well the opium trade is. -- very very lucrative business and hundreds of billions that you.

Here do you think the Obama administration wants to get into the opium business.

Well I'm not saying that they wanna get in the -- but -- a primary purpose is is -- Have to say it I mean you cannot disagree. That -- and as such a lucrative. Opportunity is right in front of you that they can't beat some. Lying. Operations going on there and there has been pretty solid proof in the past. You know we have been pretty involved in. Those you know -- or kind of operations.

I have to really think you're us solid going a little bit too -- it sounds like gay. One of those. American troops involved with the opium trade but thanks of the call we really appreciate it. Six more than 7666868. I think we even have a program over they are not an expert on Afghanistan may be I'd love to hear from some of the men and women who serve there.

Men I know a lot of gunmen. When they come back and they tell the stories about that country it's that may think 6172666868. If you wanna give -- but. I think we're actually paying farmers who used to grow poppies now to grow things like wheat. And to stop growing poppies because as we know Afghanistan is one of the biggest. Producers in the world of really bad drugs and it just benefits the the end corset brings money to the warlords and the Taliban live off the money from the drug trade. So. If were gonna weaken the Taliban and we certainly have to weaken their hold on the drug trade there. 6172666868. So patches gets up and he gives this speech on the Kucinich amendment and the attacks the press and he's waving that newspaper the papers around.

In that war and --

Three billion dollars a thousand lives and know.

But even heat is smart enough to vote against the Kucinich amendment. And eight out of ten members of our congressional delegation. Did vote for the Kucinich amendment. It's just scary that you don't give credit to bill Delahunt and Steve lynch at least they were smart enough not to do it -- you need in your next -- Charlie Manning.

Yeah hey hey he turned out your phone ya radio I mean I got out the radio thanks how you -- okay what do you think about this.

But I think about is the fact that. Product yeah I forgot the -- of the car on the Padilla the the Obama does Obama that question directly isn't that -- Of the president of Afghanistan. The leading dealer in opium.

And what he said. Yeah. I'm shocked that President Obama didn't answer that question but I'll tell you. It is incredibly. Cool rock there. There's a ruling class of warlords. In the opera stab was -- including Karzai and his whole family. That are is -- erupt as can be. But in less you can stream then the government over there in give people the ID year. That may be they can get a fair shake from their government. Things are gonna work out in the long run and the Taliban will be able to take over in fact. The Taliban in some cases as bad as they are. Look like the reformers but thanks for the call I think that's a good point 6172666860. John -- you're next on Charlie Manning show.

You know we had -- ensure that memories jolly it was -- 1015 years ago Russia was over they had done a financial crisis and Iran.

Actually it was back in early eighties.

After all that all time flies when it happened on the life.

It out and said welcome but it's gonna break out or did I say get out of left.

How much straight now people are gonna try to live up big machine that collapsed. You've ever seen in your life that's what we're missing -- missing to authorities in this country if we start to get out.

In congress and past houses and said that there were not been around just like in the Marines one marine massacre happened ever admit it. Everybody gets punished for -- straightened -- people.

expansion were there look I'm not for sending our troops in less our national securities at stake. But if you you would hold out now when -- so much done so much.

I mean we don't quite there was like we used to look at -- resident judgment. You can't short of the mosque even if you're being shot at.

That drives me -- Apple tries absolutely drives me crazy too that our soldiers are being having to fight this war under that. Rule of engagement. But thanks to the call I really appreciate -- 6172666860. The Charlie Manning show on W marquis will be right back.

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We're back on the Charlie and -- 2666860. It's our phone number if you wanna join the discussion 6172666868. We started out the last hour talking about. The new strategy of the Deval Patrick. Campaign. After he appeared on our show on Monday he decided that you know what it's not so bad maybe I can go on radio. And talk to the voters so if you've seen The Herald today there's a great story about still -- two rightwing radio all talk. It it's really fun and we're looking forward to having the ball on the show in coming weeks he's promised he's gonna command. Then we of course had a talk about. Patrick Kennedy's. Speech. Yesterday in the congress to one in case folks haven't heard you wanna I wanna give it to us one more time to iPod.

People in this gallery. We're talking about it Massa but what he forced seven on the UK what about war and case.

Three billion dollars a thousand lives and know.

Now of course this was the debate during the debate on legislation. On an amendment filed by Dennis Kucinich of Ohio ran for president last time remember he was sells such a move that so far left wing. That nobody took this vote seriously. Except. The members of the Massachusetts congressional delegation. We've actually had. Eight of the ten members of our delegation. Vote for this. The only two who didn't were bill Delahunt who as she knows leaving congress and Steve lynch from -- Boston who I think has spent more time in Afghanistan and Iraq. Then all the rest of our members of our delegation combined. But Niki Tsongas Ed Markey Jim McGovern. Richie Neal. Mike -- the wind though. All of these other members York congressman. Voted to pull troops out of Afghanistan in thirty days to cut and run out of Afghanistan. In to -- of the Taliban you won we can't fight chip were taken our troops home. It's crazy and folks have been calling in would love to hear from -- not specially love to hear from. So many of the brave men and women who have served in Afghanistan the year opinion holds the most weight with me by far I'd love to hear from them. 6172666868. The number. Mark your for your first the segment on the Charlie Natasha.

Hey Charlie this and I'm they staunch independent. Okay so I'm gonna go right at that that would vote for two people president to people for president they -- that's Ron Paul or been usage. Tell you why because they're they're they're both have the CNET you do that Iraq in Afghanistan. You wanna look at Russia fell look what they did in Afghanistan all this histories poured out forests that doesn't do our security any good.

So you don't you don't -- to -- one out it's just that it's not so so you're not necessarily. You wouldn't have sent troops to Afghanistan in the first place.

No I don't we did we don't. Right which is the beginning and then when that when what happened was that. To CIA first -- in the -- information bad information we've found that where Obama bin Laden was. Tora Bora we sending troops to about I don't know 10000 we have enough. But they had that they the east to south in the West Concord. The only thing was was missing with the north and kept hope they pulled an all out is what Pat Tillman was was was was so furious about. Which that they were they were getting the guys that were responsible for not deliberately pulled out.

I'm telling you why not I am not know.

You know peace -- here I'm just saying I know that what you look at it that we listened to it to the to a lot of soldiers off the record.

They they don't really -- to -- don't know what the fight and I can't credit everything they can't should begin big issue that the detention practices this is not working to understand and.

So you would -- you would of voted you would have voted would run in fact Ron Paul was the only Republican that voted for the tennis Kucinich amendment. So you would have voted for you would -- the eight members of our delegation -- out attendants voted to pull the troops out in thirty days.

Take it exactly because you don't like. Have to worry about that common over here there are not the Taliban to mixture of all kinds of things first of all of these gadget to support it needs some money. Most of these -- old religious stuff the real dangerous people. Are the people that are. Hoping it would be mine brain wash their -- very very small town. Take it out and -- there in Europe there in France the you know they might even be here if you don't say it.

A mark that it marked Lisa's relatives are not keep it anymore safer.

I appreciate your call and I hope you call us again but I think you're wrong I'd just written account of a book by an Italian. Journalist. Who went to meet a Taliban commander. And instead. When he went to meet him to interview him they kidnapped him. And you know they did. They took the port Pashtun. Afghanistan's citizen that was the journalist drive her. In -- locked office head right in front of this journalist. And they beat him and they held them and they finally let him go through some type a prisoner swap that in here. Then we're gonna win that we're gonna win all through this region of the world and then will be coming to see you in Europe. So that's that's how they think and they also think that the greatest thing they can do. Is die for their cause because then they're a martyr in -- go right to heaven. That's the type of people were dealing with and we can never forget it and we can't be naive about it 6172666860. -- number. Chris your next Charlie --

Jolly -- at all right Chris. And I got bought I like conservatives -- I do mr. rush but I hope the interstate conservative independent but it listeners are.

Hey I'm gonna be -- on the conservative so don't worry about it.

good yet those -- just mentioned I'm a big mistake -- Ron Paul was a Republican and voted I think you're trying to say someone else you wanna. --

No I think he was the only Republican who voted for this Kucinich and then and I think it was 65 Democrats. Including eight from Massachusetts. And one Republican and I think the only Republican was Ron Paul -- and maybe I'm wrong I looked at the roll call fast this morning.

Ron -- an independent now.

No he's a Republican remember he ran for president as a Republicans remember he was in all the debates with Matt and John McCain and Rudy and everyone.

Now it pretty independent -- that. Register that you don't --

Will then he couldn't have run in the presidential race as a Republican. No you can't you have to be a member of a party to run for that party's nomination if your for instance an independent in Massachusetts. You couldn't run in the Republican primary. You -- you could run for governor of like ten K -- doing as an independent. But you can't run in that party while I was I was like -- it's as the Republican yes thanks thanks.

Well I liked this format and what he does is as a congressman he doesn't take any and money doesn't. Plot that congress shop -- and all those guys you mention they're a bunch of -- not jobs and don't suck up the system.

Well you know what I'm pretty sure right just read a great piece about Ron Paul son. Who's running for congress or is that the US senate. One you know he's running for national office so.

One of Ron Paul -- who's also a doctor and we always forget that Ron Paul's a doctor so it's interesting. 6172666868. The number. Among the Charlie Manning show give us a call if you wanna send us an email so you Manning at wrko.com. We started talking about Patrick Kennedy's. Bizarre speech that we're talking about our Massachusetts delegation in how they voted on this Kucinich amendment to a cut and run and Afghanistan. And now we're really getting into a debate about. Whether we should even be in Afghanistan. So let's hear from Sheila from Newbury port you're next on the Charlie Manning show.

Perfect Segway and my conversation because I think we're all adding the absolutely -- conversation there. This is not about what we should be Afghanistan or not. Come down to the fact that our soldiers -- sitting there with their hand behind their back. They're being told have to look by the Geneva convention when these people that we are writing clearly do not that that act. The reality is. We need to change the rules of engagement electoral did he get in the air and do their job and I don't care at this point we currently in the world. They -- litter box.

You know I have to agree with you nothing Meeks in the matter then when we put our. Men in women who are fighting for our country. Added disadvantage. In harm's way there's never any reason to do that. With these. Rules of engagement that our troops have to. Undergo right now. And I know that they don't wanna kill civilians. And I understand that and that it's -- much of a PR effort is as as it is anything else to win the hearts and minds of the people of Afghanistan. But -- it's not worth one. American. Life. These rules of engagement. They ought to feel lucky where they are the Taliban. Regime. Was one of the worst we all remember what they did the way they treated women the way they treated children. Right now there's still terrorizing young girls who would just committing horrible sin of trying to -- us. Well that they wanna go to school. Yeah I know we got -- but Sheila I totally agree with -- that drives me quarry EC. I saw one of the generals over there in the hold PC thing of of the military now. We're seeing actually what happened at Fort Hood. And that they knew that that. Was he a major well the psychiatrist was a nut case but they thought it was so wonderful that we had a Muslim in that service. In -- goes out and kills. How many they -- in a terrorist act absolutely terrorist act. Kill so many of our soldiers it in on that base. It drives you crazy the one place you hoping. They wouldn't get infected with the PC bug was the military and now they are but Sheila thanks a call and I hope you call again. 6172666868. The number. We're having a discussion about Afghanistan and the role of American troops give us the call 2666868. On the Charlie Manning said.

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The American public gets ahead. Damn bit because there are not seeing that congress do the work that -- expected to have it because the as the -- the United States is not public the most significant if you put national importance.

We're back on the Charlie Manning -- 6172666868. This is the show that god the Deval Patrick campaign and administration. To change your whole strategy. On whether they would go on talk radio or not. And if you don't believe me read the Boston Herald today it's right there. Yup he went on the Charlie Manning show and now he's thinking of going on how the in the sports guys and everybody else though. 2666868. You wanna be part of this would love to have you. --

Yesterday in the house and it's on legislation. Filed the by Dennis Kucinich the real left wing moon that from Ohio. To pull the troops out of Afghanistan in thirty days. And eight members of our congressional delegation. Voted for it. Only two only to. Of the ten that we have we have ten congressman. Bill Delahunt and Steve lynch voted against it. All the rest voted for so if your congressmen or in the case of Niki Tsongas congresswoman. Is -- Is. Vote you know how they voted they voted to pull out the troops. And so would been having that discussion. Really about whether folks agree with that vote or whether they don't and if it's gonna be an issue in this campaign remember. Martha Coakley was opposed to the search president Obama's surge to win the Afghan war. She wanted to pull the troops out right away Scott Brown said we have to win and I think most people on that election sided with him. So let's go back to the calls Russ in the car you're next with Charlie Manning on WRKO.

You don't tell what's very interesting about -- the people on the anti war movement got played by as its full. Why Obama is burba it was -- he now approach the United States. In about what happened east of body what president of the United States so that it. They're really annoyed because they've been news.

Well it's so funny -- were gonna get some of my friends who are real liberals on one of these days and I think most folks know I did a show here and -- for years called the Spin Doctors with a great friend who's very liberal Michael Goldman. In when I talk to them you think were -- about Obama. You ought to hear them he did this surge in Afghanistan. He hasn't closed gitmo. He didn't go for social total socialized medicine single Payer health care. The liberals are the ones that are really mad at Obama these days I give him credit for trying to win in Afghanistan. And I'd love to hear if we -- from any of -- members of our audience who. Have served in Afghanistan. Give us a quick call 6172666868. Would love to hear from you before we get at the top of the hour. In -- I know. The folks that talked to and I know great young guy he's a Boston Police officer now. Who was in the first wave of Rangers. Back in 2001. When we went into Afghanistan. And after of course. They attacked us or the al-Qaeda attacked us on 9/11. And he said. It's like being in prehistoric. Times. It's all about tribes. There is no loyalty to the country. Just the ID year of having a country makes no sense to those folks. In the fact that they were evils to defeat the Taliban and drive them out. Well people were very happy they didn't they didn't like living under the really -- restive Taliban regime. And yet when this government became. In was installed by car side. It is so called rock. And you can't do in neat thing in the country without paying people off without being shaken down that just regular folks. Don't wanna have anything to do with it. So win a sort of between a rock and a hard place I don't think people wanna go back to the Taliban certainly but they're not happy with the government they have now. In it is so corrupt. And and everybody has their hand out in in -- she played the game and less sure warlord and -- member of the ruling class. You don't fit in. And that's what's happening so it's a tremendous challenge for a military -- I agree with Sheila one of our callers just in the last segment. If were gonna have our troops there. They can't have their hands tied behind their backs they he would fight the war that they need to fight. Under the rules of engagement they are being put under. And we know too many families who have sons and daughters there. And they should never be put in harm's way American troops should never be. GDP eggs in any type of war situation that's why we had so much problem in Iraq at the beginning. You know we have -- who was Donald Rumsfeld to as the secretary defense. And he wanted to fight that war in some new wave with less troops. Put me in the Colin Powell category any time we think it's in our national interest to send our men and women. To a foreign land to fight for our country. We should bring in massive number of troops we should overwhelm whoever our opponent is and then we should always have an exit plan to get them home. That's the way we've always done in our country that's the way would always won wars going back to World War I World War II. That's probably what we didn't do in Vietnam. And that's what we've done since and it's been very successful forests and that's why we're finally. Turn the corner in Iraq. Anyway we've got to find our coming up we're gonna have the chairman of the Democrat party. The chairman of the Republican Party. And we're gonna talk some local politics we hope you'll stay -- 6172666868. If you wanna join us on the Charlie Manning show.