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I'm thinking about this Patrick Kennedy if you have -- know nobody's gonna be immensely frustrating it can with talked a little bit about the death of his dad and his own emotional I guess I'll call -- immaturity. He's going to be very frustrated by the president. There's a guy that you know Ted Kennedy's embrace of Barack Obama relatively early on in the campaign was an important moment. And I think Teddy and Patrick and many many others of liberal democratic persuasion. Would have convinced themselves that this guy was going to be -- sirens several things including the war I mean Buena Iraq's ticket to the White House was. He he opposed the war in Iraq and gave every indication that he was not going to be a war -- Our whole military. Oriental expression they present the streets he can't pass an -- Yeah exactly. The so you're saying that it is Barack asked all the answers I I I think he may have been would you know I kind you understand then that Patrick Kennedy would be immensely frustrated by a guy. Who continues to escalate in Afghanistan. Continues to fight era drone missiles at two to three times the rate to George Bush the alleged military -- did. And Kennedy has consistently opposed the war. And has tried everything within his grasp procedurally and otherwise to try to bring an end to it so I would think some of this has -- right.

Liberal White House actually thought. The Barack Obama was the messiah yes. Oh yeah. Oh yes they're very very much into delusion well we -- manage your single point here -- in the last week we have met very Lou we've gotten very close to. Two members of congress. Eric Massa who we didn't know it all before doubt that truly was an unknown guys -- your -- and Patrick Kennedy who we know quite well lunatic French yup that's two out of 435. Yeah. What do you think we get if we keep going to -- it were hot hot hot hot hot hot. There are a lot more these way we you may have a point -- we worked our way through roller roles we might find a lot of grieving pet tricks there.

So -- Patrick Kennedy yesterday blows up on the for the house and the question is is this say a natural moment of him -- all of his angst and his so -- or loss of establish your saying is if he sincerely expressing that. Or this was a contrived moment at the very beginning you know how they have all these procedural rules -- kind of chamber -- you have to ask who it when people have to go to the bathroom in the house today. Raise -- one or two how does that work just that they just they go on there or does it seems like yeah you need approval forever I don't -- so Patrick tanasugarn following the approval to -- the floor to have -- can have the microphone that's -- everything else -- got your -- your -- that I don't know many of us don't listen -- is asking for thirty seconds he doesn't sound like he's losing that but it on and on a dime. He turns into the ranting lunatic.

Killing -- costs thirty seconds. Gentlemen her second nice in my. Lake effect in January wants to know where citizens but surely any asks for the thirty seconds very Tommy -- its -- did. And then the -- comes out like he's a paper former variable auto show. Thirty seconds yeah.

Gentlemen second nice violating second if anybody wants to know where cynicism as soon as. As a result there's want to -- bonus Galloway. We're talking about Eric Massa 24/7. On the -- today.

I think he was put up to this by the White House yes Massa out of the -- it -- channeled her -- do it -- the -- did you give us a little of that Ted Kennedy passion any practice at home. And he can now do it on a dime like any good performer he he came out of the box they'll like a like a Greyhound I mean he didn't shock from what are we only have thirty seconds -- be mentally ill. And look -- what what's good about Patrick is soft and like any good actor. He can draw on his -- anxious is the moment very very murky if if if he's sold to be insane he's got a lot ever Reza -- drawn. Any draw it what -- we -- we hear one more time -- 'cause I think it's remarkable the quick turn here. I mean 12 he's com. In a moment later bank.

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Is it -- Toyota would like to have that ever acceleration. So what do you think's gone on here your political analysis as mr. speaker you -- a lot of lunatic did you ever have anyone work entry was crazy is Patrick. Working for me you know when you're there have been running the state. No idea how Sharon ever in the state but -- the house speaker of the house runs is taken you decide what legislation just passed right that's just that's just a bunch of baloney but. You know sometime give people who are very very emotional. I don't really remember any member who was going through. The combination of things that a -- Patrick Kennedy would you go would you have done something if this guys in your chamber. And you've got the -- what you've done with them would you call the man with the white -- dispute it not -- with the white coach you try to find out all of all the -- take -- please if you try to -- set the mood try to find out what's up -- what's at the root of the issue you -- until October. Then the distaff then mail -- willing to -- a moment what do you on do you let him do this on the floor do we. No well Paula I capitol police has ever had I never ever ever had this kind of a dual role role playing for a little little little -- or you've got the gavel. He would hit you'd you'd probably try to find a way to. Interrupt -- apologize for interrupting -- remarks -- gentlemen post would be in a brief recess. Just like that bang you shut it down go into briefer than you did get any they need it the man with the white coats come and take a hot hot hot hot it's not the man with the way cuts but he put the house into recess and you try to find out. What's behind us as sometimes of these very -- be intemperate exchanges between members are you trying to. Act as the neutral refereed a match in this case there was no -- I was just you know -- just there's just -- drugs -- how -- yeah why not. Are his staff members a lot to run in with the drugs on the floor refutes stopped.

Oh lord I mean it's it's one of those -- knobs are becoming more empathetic and you ran away and I got online -- ending -- not to leave because cycle burst yeah -- And what I'll call you can't help guide us we can't listen -- completely got thirty seconds.

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That's hello yeah. That's -- I personally call and support medical review on on this ballot here yes this is what happens when you drop your blood levels of the medication that she taped. First of all you get these still allowed humility variety of swing she got to have a Pueblo at 24 hours the second thing is he may have a point about the -- If they had brought covered with the help bill and I didn't do this behind closed doors maybe he's got something like maybe it would be a little bit more effective.

Yeah I loved the point about the press the press is some for the dresses really did a despicable as the right -- to admit the of the of -- focus on silly things -- concentration on a fool like Eric -- I mean. Eric masters clearly got a boatload of boatload of problems not get ought to try it that's all that's been reported to the the American public whether it's Afghanistan Iraq health -- cap and trade it of that that the -- be trying to do more responsive desist.

You called just MB you -- when your -- your drugs even heard the word are are slipping out I just looked up Patrick Kennedy and that word was next on disk images and regulation that was -- he's got a severe case of December -- duration I think I'm human and I have no idea what it means but I'm just. You feeling who have the power of the word I have the feeling that Jeff has going to be very sympathetic and empathetic -- is here is to soften the whole vibe here this morning good morning Jeff.

don't wanna -- no bottom president of the we got our panel -- Dolly -- even recognize them from -- don't think he does I think he's tried. I've done that in -- maybe he was trying to be like his father we've all -- brother wanted to irate and yelling speech and not. Exactly what he said. And if he has creating -- why do we -- one time of my money going toward someone. A law that some meat and that's what he can do it disgusting. --

All right Jeff -- Jeff. Always always empathetic terrorized by the way is I did not know that he was a kind of a corporate -- but that's nice idea ahead of the next head of the DNC not a bad job for fit that's you know you're -- the personality. And not politics with the mission and that's pretty.

I was sickened more to the heart of power because the rumors are -- manuals on the way out the files out Patrick is chief of staff. Cats are running around me talking to nobody Szabo a hot cup saw Patrick today yet again. I'm a big -- Barbara ER WRKO.

A good morning I'm I'm not I think that that had to make it good or. Because -- just got. The if the -- jury. Bush's administration. Now and another thing. Why can't we talking about this five. Said Rahm Emanuel. I think that this is some attention.

Yes see I'm thank in the same way you are Barbara that this might have been done deliberately to take the pressure our offer of around that Kennedy was doing this at the behest of the White House you -- around -- Patrick naked and agent said he -- do this. Go to the -- Do what almost always threatened mass I don't know I think he catcher would do whatever the Obama administration that's with or without the buck naked chief of staff known the why you he might want favors in return but I don't think you would consider a threat. Tom good morning armed with -- as hostile an opportunity that's that's the spirit Itar.

Market good morning guys some. I just wanted to if you are not a medical darker but have been the military for our fire eaters and I think -- suffering from like up -- some current posttraumatic stress this stroke should have I seen that happen with guys were date they. What -- admit they don't even know what this band anymore. Democratic candidate they can do is spread -- I I do the most sympathetic -- I think you need to go into a hospital for awhile and I bet that's what's gonna happen.

Okay so this makes you more likely to vote for Kennedy's in the future. Not. Conflict I don't I have -- good question -- cover is a good point I'm impressed by the ought to do there and empathetic and sympathetic response there was even some empathy. In in in -- comment. A south that he was quick he quickly got over he said look maybe Dolly's -- and if he's mentally a live by the way I don't wanna be -- but he didn't there's this little kind of up. The human recognition of somebody -- floundering somebody who's reaching out somebody who's just. Kind of lost control for a moment thought perhaps welcome a multi eEye or maybe primarily because -- really fees that data off that Patrick is that crazy. Why hasn't he resigned to move done. It's time to good deal with your life that was his explanation for why he's he's quitting. He's quitting because he's acknowledging that this pursuit of the political career. Was his desire to get close to a father who'd abandoned him and he saw the only way to build -- construction and actually had this memory of his youth. Of these a couple of rare times on his father paid attention to them are college I don't know I think you're on a grocery when -- what he says to the -- he said when his father would focus on him. That that's when he felt fulfilled now and that in order to capture that. He went to work in politics so remembering college she ran for the assembly down in Rhode Island yeah I've got elected as whatever he got elected to Austria. Big what do they call equivalent of a -- and some member of the house representatives on today's call and I -- their own terminology without another don't do delegates. But anyway so he gets in there aren't any runs for congress he gets sixteen years he says this is. It best experience in my life I got to serve with my father -- none of it is about Patrick and he what his passions are it's about the damaged child. Pursuing the neglectful father I -- that.

I I think Iran to say that Ted Kennedy was a neglectful father so what he was a very busy guy there's a question about a but I think I mean Ted Kennedy became the summer and get dad. Two didn't the nieces and nephews who wasn't just about his kids pat ya ya -- and it's easy ABS.

Arrogant they had when being a dad means you take a phone call. And that's what -- the Ted Kennedy's of the world that's what being a father is. I'm in Virginia. You were you know getting ready for primary election. I can I should call -- with one of my son's you know the adviser comes running up. -- out your son pastor or associates are you today. How would you lock Telemar this tomorrow on mine might be a little bit early for school to get tiger about something new do you know nothing about just got our work Patrick send -- extrapolating off what he said the law.

I went to visit him in his system when I don't have to go back to when I was certainly don't remember some story could well my father paid attention to me when I was thirteen it was very exciting thing. I know I remember that day I think you'd be I know I'm being unnecessarily cruel to the memory of Ted Kennedy is coming up here on WR -- the relationship they had hi Kevin.

More guys. Footprint you know we we've we've examine this from soup or not we we've we've explored the fact that maybe he's an idiot. We've explored the fact that he burden may be at the drinking from a drug problem we exploit the fact that maybe his father did a lot enough. And the automotive suspect I want to Republican he would've been rubbed out. Ten years ago fifteen years ago and they -- be any of these sympathies being you know portrayed you know it's. You know in this could be. -- a place a controlled environment where you can go back eroding the -- while. Big global -- macaroni structures. So he can explore is feeling that maybe get they'll be made but you know what it's like -- said bottom line if you under Republican it would have been born decades ago.

Yeah they you know that's a good point one of the most discussing things Patrick every did was apple cover up the thing on that on -- crash. Because the cover open of this crash was based on the knowledge of house rules the house sorority shut down for the right. And Patrick.

Knows. That if you say you're on the way to watch how smaller than your member of congress the police are not a lot of -- news goes back a couple hundred years. So he's and I was on the royal voted 3 -- Okay. No word cynicism is.

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That's Patrick Kennedy. It makes you feel kinda sad that he went to school in Rhode Island an us versus political career there.

Because of -- representing Massachusetts. I you know I thought I actually thought from moment that you gonna kind of caption the the human side of this and it's in my dad and it's pathetic. I do your job is to be saying what's in the hands of people driving to work you think you know that's my I'm imagining somebody in the car. Who's driving to work and what they're thinking and I'm -- expressive for the so they feel that they're being validated by what's going on here on the air so. I think the average Massachusetts -- today. Is driving around saying the damn what a bomber he moved to Riley took a pilot he -- my congress were denied the opportunity to have the -- brilliance yeah those are now there's the brilliance of -- tax -- I use my real feeling validated as I said that may be and I.

You think there are many many listeners. Who feel that this is Saudi. That this is just this is this is really becoming a sad case a sad spectacle they feel sympathy for our somebody who's obviously got a median struggles. And is not hit knowing those struggles particularly well setback as part of the human condition. You lose a loved one do you suffer Korea upset that something terrible goes -- look how do you handle he has this got their diet in August and his.

The ideal thing -- seems to me is that they get sick -- go slowly. So everyone has a chance to do their resolving of the relationships and the morning while the person is still around the most. Unbearable thing I imagine would be a lose somebody whose crew of critical importance you. In -- in a in an unbelievable flash of a moment where there rob from you when you can't fathom that they're not there anymore and there's no chance to say goodbye. Well there's a lot of complexity in every relationship in the fact of the matter is people grieve differently some people get over move through a very very quickly -- in it in it might surface later animate -- to a five his -- right. He's he why not equal I'm not making light of his troubles. I mean he's pretty open about his troubles his drug perhaps Al -- but certainly drug got troubles. The emotional relationship that he ensure this father's father's -- all each and every painful and Marmol -- or adults compartmentalize this and they take their two days or three days or maybe a week off to deal with the fact that their father and I died I love how good you are about oh. And hello -- Willis well beyond Patrick Kennedy. Did these thousands. Of listening audience thousands of members of that audience who does need it takes a lot more than 235 days come all right. Let's get down to -- excuse sir Patrick Kennedy being mentally ill. I'm is that his father died in August is that acceptable explanation she -- I never lost somebody of critical importance to me nobody but -- has died I don't know I'm regretting that his performance as pathetic as it was on the floor yesterday is a combination of things is not just a grieving process it's his frustration with the press you share the same pressure I would impress -- order at the press every -- it's it was right there -- fears that we have in your your explaining his behavior the way he expressed himself. You're tying into the death of his father. All right so I'm saying if this were August 30 okay. If it's September 15 now. I you know I feel that bad go into rehab again going to death of data rehab and get it straight now Anthony you're on what Tom it's not -- back.

There's wanna consider all the cable deciding what they have for breakfast that this sort of web has Patrick Kennedy very. I think blue --

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Yeah I can't do the job of its constituents. He should step down immediately I don't care about what apple has bought it he can't get yet he can't get over it is -- struck up -- constituent. He should step down.

I think that sounds eminently reasonable true blue eyes. Look at another good question we really want to hone in on is you lose somebody who's close to out OK okay -- question there are. Thousands of people it who are listening to us right now for a who have gone through this exact thing. Diagnosis. -- little illness. Nine months later a year later whatever was lieutenant he dies it's predictable everybody knows it's gonna happen from the day of the diagnosis the doctor says it. Yeah it's not survivable. And he's gonna die so then you process it and it's -- the moment of death generally I think is a relief at that moment because the suffering is over. And everybody's resolve their things that they need to resolve and life goes on. If Patrick is nine months after that factor however many months it's been. And he's still hold -- flying around the room like a pinball bouncing off for whatever hits. And -- say and that's his explanation for acting like an idiot on the floor of the house --

And again -- a combination of events are not trying to explain or justify the behavior I think there was a rant I think he did himself a disservice I don't think he hears.

And we are making excuses for because he's suffering not to be suffering that bad I mean I can't think he's right get the hell I'll go home and courage -- you -- god.

Any sympathy is denied any empathy is the not the milk of human kind of somewhere within the Obama right.

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What about his point that. The media is ignoring the war you guys are you got your focus sit on them so you who are not paid attention -- thank you -- the country right.

Still employed by -- in excellent went by Patrick that the media is despicable the way they concentrate on things and -- Exploits were also -- I don't try to make a hot a lot of -- yes and perhaps say something you're gonna have.

That's not. But thereafter but. Glad everything is not a joke like it's a lot of serious things gone on in the country right now we're practically be had taken over by a socialist. President we've got young men and women right now fighting for their lives. Believing get shot. And you guys are you liked joke around it. Makes auto mod that make Patrick Kennedy what about what he said Todd well above what -- that did he have a point guard not a.

Yes he did he had a little EST boy had -- And because it's dude do we talk about the -- citing astronaut talked about all the time we know you we haven't talked about Afghanistan. I talked about -- Afghanistan when it was in the news there -- months and months when the president was trying to make a decision you remember. -- we did regular updates on him trying to make a decision. And then the decision was made we talked all about Afghanistan everybody knows I didn't think we should be sending more troops and you'd think there should be more troops we've been over -- over what this was. Was it a few -- and then congress trying to force us to take all the troops out of thirty isn't totally irresponsible.

and so the next little to see things that did the more -- opportune lunacy thing that the press just of congress and as what. NASA running around naked while Rahm Emanuel know and I naked beautiful thing that's it that's a level of insanity whatnot it out with that this insanity. The crowd and I aren't the mental health intervention on the.

Part of the people who have their fingers on the button there insane all right I think that's a valid thing to cover and I resent. Whenever somebody here's the thing they don't wanna keep them they don't wanna hear being talked about the clubs -- you're guards aren't we talk about everything we do talk about a lot of things we talk about. Everybody lot of bush talked a lot about Afghanistan when nobody wanted to but mentally ill representatives. In an electoral system like ours are represented a republic. I think is no war they. And it's also noteworthy because more on voters. Go and reelect these guys blindly all the time a real you have to be. As craziest Patrick to a voted for him wants there isn't about this guy. That we gave and the credibility to be a member of congress sees whenever sixteen years is that not a good job.

That's a pretty good topic show -- let me ask your question elect Patrick -- volatility has I can get.

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A mentally ill when they come to world. Choosing their representatives to the ones who order from Patrick absolutely anybody who voted for Ted Kennedy yes mental illness mentally -- Mike Dukakis mental illness post Deval Patrick mental illness Barack Obama friend. He's the best and the brightest are hot hot hot SP you're in history is. I guess trigger ever -- it generally -- WR Gilmore god.

Either trying to get he would -- question about greed and all that and I gotta tell you Ronald. And you'll become an industry that's terminally -- even though everyone 'cause you would determine how. They're -- a little bit of hope. And it's not like the moral lead you won't fit together and you resolve -- issue which you don't even wanna talk about that because god. It can essentially you can do not.

Can I do a follow up on the -- I'm imagining the resolution not necessarily being conversational but day by day I would thank you as you get to go to the hospital and you see or or whatever the circumstance. You're seeing your loved one. Wilting away and then there's those final few days when hospice comes in you do in the morphine drip to keep them out of pain. Could argue making progress towards coming to terms with the death during that -- period of time.

You think you are but I tell you when I have to pass the way and a year later my mother passed away and -- actually combined to load up. I would workshop that was the -- they died because -- okay. But somehow you have a holiday you can broad -- you'd be imprisoned actually. Feel like you're not there anymore. It just doesn't like -- and he you can only take so much at a certain kinds.

It's a gap here right -- and people's lives as a vacuum there. All the hope that springs springs forth from every human being hunted under tough circumstances has been dashed on the rocks. Ended -- to an.

And I told my friend but -- I -- warn them that six months six and so now you've got to feel worse by its normal you know. Yeah I'm okay but equipment I would glad Patrick -- don't -- melting down and he definitely need --

Eddie Murray interpretation based on your experience what you see him struggling to deal with the reality. Months later that he's still getting used to the idea that Ted he's not around.

And I'm sorry can relish it could go to play like you wouldn't wanna be grown up. Yeah I don't know how about how to -- I don't he's never had to do it. And they didn't even know where he belongs right now we'd melting down. But I would take for the first time and I'm from Ireland I get -- the monitor them and I don't read and but I don't trust and I agree with what he's saying and pushing and an object and we had. I've told Eminem knew it would how many people died and I watched you don't hear anything about it and Afghanistan.

General you've -- recess that is a great call I was a great call and that is a sane sensible Mota who said look at and agree with the guys never -- and -- but the -- have -- it comes forth than that call that's a great -- I don't think -- everybody if you got extra -- send them to Patrick does he needs a -- 6172666. Seats succeed -- with -- taught high.

I don't know why you. Yeah I thought I think you bring in a little bit unfair Patrick about the other grieving process you know it's. But like they don't like guide. You know this was just that this was an instrumental part of his life I don't know Colby is faced 45 for 45 -- And I mean he just didn't say that you shouldn't be old -- And six or seven months I think you've been buried for Canada may.

Let's turn it enjoyed a different angle have you ever witnessed somebody. Unable to cope with their daily life. 78 months in their 47 or eight months after the death of the father because of the death of their father wade where I understand it's in a backpack frame and in those -- I hit it. You tend to our what knowledge. This is an isolated moment he's not into going through a 24/7 meltdown this is an isolated moment. In his job -- thirty seconds to make any point did he feels great conviction. About this point so we goes off it is over the top we can concede that but the notion that he's run around like this 24 arouse a date for several stars out of our president is that this one. As of now don't make light of the Kennedy family history this huge history here -- In dozens of young -- one guy doesn't and Teddy Teddy spoke at the funeral. Yeah right now was he yelling and screaming like a lunatic he was giving up powerful impact full street people handle grief he had some people -- only owners rise these -- and that's -- sense of people. I had some good.

John Molina. Yeah let's see here torture you just put that all of these for forty years would wonder why I want. I do remember half the time they spent together anyway people wake up the -- the and the -- performance. Changing the world and one word that it's in news Boston. Hey. Hey mark do this week at sports authority get a free.