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Thu, 25 Feb 2010|

Is the Massachusetts State Seal Offensive?

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I wonder if you if they give me -- discount if you change your car tonight or something. If you want -- chain of Arab and by Jeff he actually get a discount to -- the driveway get a discount if you have a garage and you use. You know to put to Cairo and my comment I deserve my garage it's filled with other junk so you don't get the discount now you can do I blame it on the KP do you -- all I may never do it on a K yeah I come. How come. And we've got to be kidding -- it's illegal felt this for the -- principally garage yes and their principal is sit in the mind of my -- going to be a little bit -- a little bit subjective it means more do you when you're parked on the tapes that I would make -- principal. Are so the state -- of Massachusetts I think we need to rise up and defended -- under attack for being I think that the argument is that it's a sign of male dominance because his. Some mail engines standing there holding a -- I'm not sure so sure that its mail but it is certainly a sign of dominance on domination. It is also interpreted apparently has you know well. Kind of an extension of colonialism which is clearly. Falling fallen out of out of fashion. And done there are people who send this is a patent to patently offensive. It's a sign of us dominance people saying that they find it -- where these people well I think these of people who have kind of vote of a built in the gender of not a built in grudge. People who serve on the state commission on Indian affairs apparently most of them if not all of them. Of some why do we have a state commission on Indian affairs courage that's the question why do Indians have affairs. Why are they loyal. A the what I mean there is obviously I think in every state in the nation I would say unequivocally in every state in the nation. A they have an interest in history will we got to native Americans Indians however people wondering are you still allowed to call them Indians or has that been outlawed by the Democrats. No it hasn't been -- to my knowledge no but there is actually -- state. Commission on Indian affairs flying over the next week they may change the name well way they might but I don't think so I think the Indians took a comfortable with that parliament -- and I think they're not from India no that's okay. That was a misunderstanding what was so what we -- of the bigotry and prejudice of the -- I understand what what would then would be the alternative we haven't seen we haven't heard any it would be the commission on native American affairs minister in America -- realize it was up to them they should call themselves real Americans that would be the right thing that -- therapy and interest so are you upset over the the the state -- the state -- shows an act of violence prepared to happen because. Any Indian is standing there holding a sword of sorts well and it's the first of its -- to say that that's an Indian holding Minnesota are you see as the rays done. Well NA so what is he wearing -- Well wait a minute the Indian is in by the way if you read about this the Indian according to the Indians who have commented on this is dressed in. -- The type of Indian dress that was used by Indians in Montana. So somebody gonna Massachusetts audience not historically accurate than your favorite. What the protect ourselves what the Indian knee is holding in the seal is a bow on one hand and arrow pointed to the ground. In the other hand which I think is is -- has signed an early sense it's not aggressive. What you talk about Vietnam being raised -- this a disks joint it aren't sure yet but but but -- no indication that that is it's. The Indiana. That could be the -- of the white explorer strong enough you can see this wearing the same dress I -- thank. Not so sure -- third arm that's just suspended over the whole picture the military historians who have been consulted about the State's seal in the past say that this is a sign of flood justice. And the state seal itself the interpretation. The translation. Of the Latin words is that with the sword she seeks quiet peace. Under liberty I mean I like that I don't -- of -- reaganesque enough I know I don't know anybody who could find that objection peace through strength that the house with a sword she seeks quiet peace with liberty. Delaware I don't know how we all seek. -- with you better be prepared to defend your Jeff if you went into effect I absolutely yeah -- Jackson this 6172666. Seats exe should the states he'll be changed. And what do you think would be more appropriate should we perhaps show a group of women at a team party. Please don't pass a legal pad yellow pad to show how politics in the state works that would be interest. What else could detect accurately the state much more so than a native American standing an address holding a vote. With the star what is the symbolism of the starting to think that's a that's great question I have not been able to find in my limited researching this I haven't been able to find the significance of that. We there's something it's one with nature. Being guided because the Indians could navigate using stars could then nothing -- where they wore our own gesture and so for the white settles from Europe yeah but obviously Indians you know. All figured all by themselves without the help of a white man. The PI in the white men feel that I went up -- over the Indians. Well I'm still lots of people figured out a navigation will the white men thought there were superior to the ignorant savages that's so it's so important for us to note that the savages configure a thing or two on their car without a doubt though they lived an exquisite harmony with nature and they also died generally speaking before they reach the age of forty around -- router the age of forty. Living in exquisite harmony with nature. Doesn't prove to be beneficial to a long. -- I guess another question would be what kind of reparation should we pay how -- we make good on the fact that we were offended. A native Americans all these years by having the -- 61726666. Once upon a time we could've off of them a Toyota but. Actually I -- the cheap way out.

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It is very curious as an applause thank you for the -- did. You're on atomic -- right.

Say good morning guys I think we should shouldn't change just they fluctuate upside down rainbow.

Why upside down that's offensive that.

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Sounds bigoted two million. Okay thank constant onslaught Israel not only everything's -- a sincere I solace and why we make. Very bad see all -- say it must jokes. I still saw op that's shocks to -- for taxi -- what's going on.

They do want to have a good -- our resolution our -- statement a lot of track all of the Massachusetts. -- the labor Roosevelt black -- H out of Boston cops were packaged up have a coop.

Break -- governor is working on that chuck. Are you driving a Toyota hybrid taxi. How did. Okay c'mon now chuck the other -- Got that covered. Respects.

Hold on -- one seconds later after it's out of the way of seeing guys obviously welcome. Hold on break your Kelly are you good morning to you --

Well let it -- more moderate present position and estate deal. I wouldn't want a spot females being represented -- some money and are brought Jessica.

Now that is good that would be more up today -- that. It is everywhere contemporaries and it says they didn't have -- back then did that -- look at Don does ever. November. And jockey chuck turner all the stuff. Stop the guy. Those are done he was in his house he was get a -- we want a news out in those on the stories on the porch of some them are not -- take that -- God that's -- reach -- That's a reach Donald what do you think about the state seal.

Yeah I I know what to do just replaced the Indian with the tax -- there in the armor prevents the legislature.

if you put it taxpayer in the center of the -- then the arm up above with a sort can play politics with this but it makes sense but to -- about this. Dario very that's very good O'Donnell had a very very strong I was some creative -- those creative that was created -- Beatrice and of suit in terms -- resource has what -- we have some great resources at the time. Caught the cod fishery of course. Lumber and timber believe it -- not once upon a time sure and cranberries came a little bit later. But why would we have had -- native American -- are sealed to begin with wouldn't that be a sign of respect in in French or put the Indians I think it is no you know obviously. People from different cultures and societies can have a legitimate difference also people can -- contrived. Difference sometimes it's about agitating for a special recognition and special programs special awards what Everett might be. I think it's -- I think it's a sign of immense respect. That you know the first settlers. Obviously. -- found mixed mingled. Had trouble with and also had hit hit sexual relations and we have wonderful loved the opportunities of collaboration and beat -- ornamental existed just harmonious go to state commission on Indian affairs calling the State's official seal horrific and offensive voted unanimously to support legislation that proposes to change. The logo of the soared over the Indians head is horrific is that executive director Jim Peters and urging support. Immediately I mean what's really have to look at to -- I'm I'm -- Genuinely trying to look at this and find out find what is offensive I don't find anything until I would and you can interpret it any way you choosing you can do it to be offensive yet it would be again if you choose to have been designed to further as the backbone of the liberal politics that's how works and it. Divide and conquer bought your NW RKO.

They're good morning how are you today. Very quickly too quick point -- the first one I think Donald had a right on the head but I would take the army and stick it in the guy's pocket. The second point is -- a classic -- instead of dealing with. The budget issues and cut our taxes and everything else. Let's go some touchy -- mile -- by -- issue in this directly attention to what they should really be focused on which is the budget everything else.

I believe he'll be twisting above them -- at a point this bill has been filed apparently for a census sometime in the early -- mid eighties. And it's it's gone nowhere there's no lead just that doesn't seem to be -- legislative support for -- this is the state commission on Indian. -- So that those offended tell -- the represented -- possibly explain to me how this is a democratic. Initiative under democratic. -- is going right to charities the bill has gone. No -- actually it'll go somewhere of -- you know where it goes. So the legislative. Grave and eventually they when the when they run out of other groups or bribe obviously. Indians don't have a lot of clout because how many of them both as they price of 47 votes. In his out of the six million people in the state of Massachusetts so they don't have a lot of clout does not a lot of incentive for Democrats to pander to them. But -- or some other group. If it showed a gay guy holding a sword. Right then they gave coalition would be upset if it showed an Hispanic guy holding a sword and guess what would they not jump up in the legislature if Hispanics were upset. Because there was a sort NL Latino god. An interesting theoretical question I think not I don't know at the half I think dot have to say works. Poll all the other -- to people took it apart prospect you go to the website go to WRK dot job Tom and Todd OK when you -- go to Tom and Todd stage we're gonna pull on this one. Do you find it -- Offensive or insulting and should do it should it be change which is the specific proposal. Change the state -- not of course change it to watch some. Well I guess that's the question we're pursuing right now. And apparently you're supposed to be upset with our state seal because there is an arm holding a sword which is supposed to symbolize. Peace through strength. How -- unity what you could substitute for a some type of us some type of image of the city on the hill the great speech by John Winthrop. This I know thank -- more John Lennon singing imagine how -- should be our state steal your idea is pleased Tony your NW RQ atomic time.

Debian in order to be YouTube but part of it people people people. They slaughtered each other than ever edit it or couldn't follow communication but what ya I wanna go to this sale is -- you are put a slot machine -- our --

That's not bad. Not as -- as symbols of prosperity. And and what the modern way. And prosperity and intellectual ism the so that's what Massachusetts is all about what you think Dennis about this.

Oh culture and a campus party -- under the symbol of the minutemen to get a little white.

oh yeah that's right I was violence. If you're out at the seeds and they did change that it did not know I don't think yeah the world the student body.

Oh no -- thank god the student body relative that's a sense of milk sensibility embarrassing them stint as an assembly minutemen has assembled a just -- their sexual overtones Dennis.

It doesn't have sexual overtones.

And we're very very journalists don't you know I'm just it's just that we predilection for awhile we weren't being impact anymore but now I guess we couldn't take it. We're gonna be back to be in the embarrassing state of the union.

We are well I don't think that ever change really we just weren't doing our PR. You half an hour hiring -- key to -- so spread out everything Hamas socialism. We've -- our message is if we have found this fall and will have an exhilarated. The -- program -- well now well stop and hopelessness and tossing out. I'm out there.

Can't. If no peace no justice no peace of sawdust. Plug jokes that I. Good morning -- how I.

Big -- guys the momentum but really the appropriate symbol for Massachusetts backyard and of access. Is the man -- man just a question if the citizens -- that's what made this.

That's a violence -- similar we could never get that passed today. But yeah I don't consecutive days is what's called you I have a Guinness book world record -- I -- out -- is right crosses medical and by the way that is. And it's an excellent suggestion whatsoever really do I think the minutemen as. Net use the ones check whether consultants on PR affairs hockey don't talk to what do you think mr. trying to. What BI -- good for music. Except we're sorry and we don't break all the time this to Boston's talks resume. Comes six -- eight PW Ontario. The strongest.