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How about so the you'll be able to grow much smaller -- and so many other you know end of the -- take up less space on the plane being clone of the -- are -- that's coming -- back from Israel I thought it was on a permanent junket for awhile there it seemed like he was never gonna come back. And unfortunately is no phone service and Israel -- he wasn't able to engage in this congress say well I don't know you like to rum exports. In particular vote now congressman once upon a time district attorney Delahunt. But you would not under any circumstances. Subject yourself to grilling over a phone when you don't have tax dollars -- high -- talked to -- on an airplane and gotten home -- full Bologna -- going -- is really more important -- that -- this is about his reputation he's -- he's out of congress this year. He's not going to be able to run for reelection after the scandal. And then even in now he's gonna go to our history is that I covered up for the Alabama murder well we don't know how much of the scandal the so. Before you leap to your usual conclusions. But when we waited to stay in front page news for ten days and he's been away -- it every day carries the files everyday uses district -- well -- with him you remember when I'd cover for murderous OJ stuff. We use our coverage for to Europe for murder. I never do everything. There you go don't you think you'll remember if you cover up for murder well 24 years later I wanna I -- review whatever happened. Does a cover up -- this no -- lot of work email over there can read the case. -- Who's gonna facts of the stuff -- anymore you just put in an email you have it in ten minutes would get that from the president DA would he get that from -- all want is former police all his artists like I get it for the call the Obama White House to say can I have this guys have this you know how the whole state of Massachusetts jumps for Obama. Anyway it's just -- thought he's coming at San Jose's own oppression are particularly as -- conference with his -- I guess first assistant a guy named John -- and who's a tough no nonsense guy and a very very good attorney could find out why they -- it's just bad worked out it'll be fun to find out it's going to be interesting and they'll be a ton of questions I'm sure -- it do you think you have a right to -- Well I know that I will go to pot of life it's a natural potluck and that's we've been told -- until you get there you don't really know. Well I had to be canceled I haven't seen any I never -- no exception to the Columbia hills -- out of Tokyo had to mrs. -- weight class we choose to the ripe old age -- 102 had -- huge fabulous family that's a rich life not being a monetary sense but it's. Full rich life. That seems to be about the the outer limit you know if you and I make it 200 -- dilemma wits about us we're lucky lucky. Well having your wits about you as a whole other story now do one thing is gonna go we will not break out -- you need to cut if you're weights go. Or your physical being -- what have you by -- by -- a 102 years old. You've got to be fallen apart in wishing you died ten years ago -- but. There is a proposal the state of Massachusetts should join a couple of states nationally and have a right to dialogue that is if you're in pain you're in agony. You're sitting there in the hospital miserable. And you know this is just going downhill for the next month a couple months what have you with a lot of pain and everybody's suffering -- there I think you shovel right to take a little beverage a little cocktail and veteran got the -- you enjoy so much. May -- have to be remarkably restorative but I think the idea this is not to be restorative but what's the opposite universe sort of and degrading. To struck most destructive so the idea is you take all cocktail and bang -- and and you save all that money you save all that agonies save putting your family through the day by day by day. And it's finished now I think everybody users are right Tony.
I do not you don't know I do not know I think it is unfortunately -- development of off. Culture which you and I condemn in so many aspects in our culture has become more on that focuses on not convenience. And it does not give any even a passing thought to the dignity of human life in all its forms. We got into this a little bit sometimes with the Sarah Palin contrary controversies in the developmentally disabled and people think it's outrageous. And almost bordering on the inhumane to bear a child -- something less than perfect. End of we have a culture really that seems to sell us to celebrate our at least have become comfortable with. The notion of death ho -- this this unplanned pregnancy is somehow or other going to be an interruption to might.
Comodo a visitor abortion -- well -- this is why it's -- on the logic conversation I don't think so because one is starting their lives so at the beginning of something you have to -- have the ultimate respect for its right but we don't -- I know but we don't and that's a mistake that's different from. I it to me that the conversations go together. You respect a fetus enough to say it has to be brought to fruition that's respect for life respect for life is also not to use drugs in machinery. To artificially keep somebody alive long beyond what -- or or any time beyond what nature would have provided force they don't want to. Well if it if it's gonna be what nature provided for the new would say -- let's walk away from all medical yeah is that is is is that we're gonna start this conversation I. You should have the right to deny yourself the medical care if you -- off yourself that's the same day off. Know everybody give everybody a gun in their drawer when you always all of of all you make -- he made light are -- white I think I may have speaking figuratively I think everybody should have that option if you're -- and suffering. Suffering every -- suffered only imagine if you were Iraq Christopher Reeves got the actor who stuck basically and Missouri in his body know much worse than a wheelchair. He couldn't move anything and -- right here it's just -- Teddy could move up. And in your in abject misery. Living like that in your putting your family through misery in you don't wanna be there anymore I think you -- the right to kill yourself you don't yeah that's respect for life to make the I don't I.
I do not think it is I think it's a celebration of death I think it looks it portrays life and candidates in many many limitations as. An inconvenience and in their office the ultimate convenience -- that lets be casual about it. It creates in my mind the most slippery slope of all -- no that's an argument that -- against any. Public policy no it's a good argument it's a it's an incredibly. Slippery slope that Iran because at some point somebody is going to begin to a strip that. That make that decision on behalf of -- somebody is meant.
That's our capital our time -- correct those decisions are made every day's you know and hospitals by doctors in cozy little. Private deal also about what they're gonna do a lot of people die -- two in cozy little private DS you don't they don't talk to a family member and say no that's what Rosie deal talk to a family -- so what then happens to me that said John. And they know what my wishes I don't know anyway they scored his way that's how highway -- I already have parallel -- Then that's a dangerous. That's a potentially dangerous part if your family have the chance stuff they say give Moore never potion you wanna give -- Willow will help via -- Q what you wanna studio shoved him some money from the B Ivan Harris they -- and stay script so why do you believe in this say there's a proposal have a right to -- build. The -- in the law here in Massachusetts 61726666. It should people who are to kill themselves in horror be assisted in doing that.
Absolutely not absolutely positively not they already have the complete. Legal ability and authority to determine. End of life care if they can leave a living will they can to have me up a medical. Medical statement medical proxy. They can have all sorts of things in of course. As they confront a situation which you've described -- in medical terms Todd. They have the right just to ask for palliative care the -- type of kid that would relieve the pain and suffering but nothing egg and nothing beyond extraordinary measures. Just and a natural decline there's an M and a -- a life for all of us and -- that will all -- In different ways I just think this is the worst of all policy -- his.
Was generated by a guy who suffered from cancer for five years he fought his battle but at the ND you don't wanna be in -- You don't want your family to see you in pain he thought this would be the best way said Eileen what -- and whose husband of 38 years Albert 62. Died four months ago from stone from colon cancer. There have spread to his -- so essentially after five years of agony if you decide you wanna go a few days early to say give me the beverage Stoudamire I went. Again you describe his ideas and Evans. Of agony I can't speak for his widow I don't know how she would characterize -- but I would guess that the lodge your -- of the five years she's grateful for every single day not they had to whatever portion I was agony she sperling are grateful well and it and again there are ways to address a particularly in this day and -- particularly in this day and -- what he won't trust and palliative care you mean drug him. The Indo -- you can you can draw that's your idea that dignified end this hostile some -- but it's it's -- money and our faith is -- about the relief of pain sure that's what it's about it's about relief of pain. -- or send up palliative care work them work wonderfully much much better outcomes much better choices. Then hey give media give -- the -- mr. speaker this celebration of the dignity of human life make you into a junkie. Every day about what you think about that. Good morning Andrea. Can you punch in reforming talks thank you hi Andrea.
Good morning all right gentlemen I drew. I did. I I do agree with Tom on that -- picture quick reader that -- would -- And believe me I'm not without sympathy because about it other diet after -- really horrible battle with one answer. That he got as a result of the job but anyway. They want would be. It -- different between -- patient being able. But to actually a mentally and typically make the decision I wish and my life at the end it lights. -- things come into play are diminished at the book pap speed diminished mental capacity as a result of that not diminish.
what you're saying the people who were suffering can't make a good. Rational decision.
Not actual economic and what if somebody within the the throat of chronic depression they cannot see an engine that depression they would be suicidal.
So what that depression is going on over purity of years your manic depressive you know it's gonna come back you can make. -- you have on opportunities that thinks things are over long periods of time. To sort them out with family members is that different I -- this -- cancer for five years he knew what was gonna come. He knew how ugly the pain was as a pain got worse and worse and worse he knew we wanted to be able to often self.
Well that could bring into the second point -- should it channel but are aware of pressure and but we're pretty. Quiet given the Lockerbie bomber. -- thought he was released by the Scottish government because. That would -- and he was going to die immediately without he's enjoying himself and a funny lecturing villa in Tripoli. We don't know with certainty no doctor no. Whether or even travel cases. You're going to have a much you're gonna have -- chicken every pre. Every story -- actually that the baby -- really slippery slope to -- based operator out.
Well this slippery slope argument I I certainly understand I think it's a little different the -- what you're suggesting. If people want to die themselves and they've made that decision they're asking for the right it seems to -- you've mitigated. Most of the concerns that something untoward might happen that person. Driven external you know like a family member once you killed. You would need them to be able expressive early on with may be a living well. That said if I'm in pain I wanna be able to have this option so you establish a win their rational and balance and then they they'd be able to KBR tell you when the moment was -- forty you'd have regular checks along the way I don't think it's -- billionaire.
The inevitable. Next step no matter what the legislation of the proposal says now today -- the inevitable next step. Is that entered Friday's other family members or loved ones our colleagues come forward and say. He's in such a diminished capacity I know what he expressed. Present those petitions to the court in the inevitable next step is that other parties begin to -- you all live for -- some other person's life you know. Not a sincerely don't -- system the -- absolutely no -- you while literally on a slippery slope it's an icy slope you're just gonna plummet down and we see it all around us it is. Now our culture now celebrates. Death and convenience over the gift of life.
Brian your NW RQ what Tom it's not good morning GO.
Good morning. I don't have a comment about. You know do we wanna put the grim week burden as we begin you know remote in the government who want the government -- It -- to give up -- right to kill last.
I think this would be entirely on nongovernmental other than. The granting of the right which seems to me that if -- if you go back to pre government -- stages of life like you're out on the farm in. In the wild west a hundred years a 150 years ago. Nobody asked the government if you if somebody was miserable so -- miserable it's safe please take me out back and shoot me or probably in a -- out to see whatever the government intervention that in this is creating laws that make it impossible to do what people want. That's a government intervention isn't the natural thing would be. -- Get the shock I can't live anymore I think about it before drugs and --
Or the ability to mitigate -- what -- what ignored your bag anyways should have made a show host. It was a terrible terrible option on no option that people that. And at that point they had no respect for life and respect for the traditions and why government didn't interfere 617. 2666860.
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We're talking about the rights to die. Do you have if you're an agony in the hospital laying there miserable. And there's a nice old cocktail you can take to put yourself how to permanently should you have left prerogative it seems to leave its. A right to self determination that has been artificially removed.
Is that that man would have have forever. And then hyper active government intervened and made it impossible to kill yourself. When -- no longer wanting to live well do you think that the state I assume you would agree that the state has a legitimate interest. In preventing homicide yes okay. Does the state have assimilate legitimate interest in preventing suicide. I know not similar I would say. Severely diminished. Okay not identical. But severely diminished gets so you RU four suicide is much more personal option that homicide got you in favor of are you in favor -- of from suicide as a policy that's. Public policy which is -- don't think you should be actively trying to stop people from committing suicide the lesser gonna jump off a building a remake animus on the side trap which case I'd wanna build a billion that's. But. There are people wanna watch that -- sort of -- nice way privately I think it's really higher business I would argue that the state has a legitimate interest in preventing social event in suicide in which in union working to. Minimize it. Excuse me if not eliminate -- aside as nothing more than one human beings -- desperate desperate call for help. And they can't find our present our first answer it is not Collison hit it so why we call 800 -- help is so it's up so what it's inexplicable to us. And that's why you organizations such as the good samaritans. That's where it should be handled a you know people offering psychological help and someone to talk to. But it's really yeah I mean if you look at the imperative of -- homicide and homicide is the ultimate denial of another person's rights. The government's job mr. percent to our rights so clearly government has an active role prevailing homicide. The suicide it's your life so you're -- not denying anybody there right.
Little bulb doesn't you know through the how the homicide suicide question is all based upon Norwich Britain in my opinion it's springs from the State's legitimate interest in trying to further and advance and respect. Human life in all its forms some of which is diminished -- so I -- you know we could be. Quadriplegic who could be Chris Reeves. In the in the wheelchair that you youngsters -- As an example that heralded as this story by the way which brings what brings the story to the fourth. Is up tomorrow. We'll be hearing up of the state house on this as to whether Massachusetts Massachusetts should follow the lead tomorrow Don. Washington and Montana I think all of them had been done up to you by ballot as opposed to by legislative act I might be wrong -- one of them. One to them but I think that's generally how it's commit to being in this no question about it we can all relate to we've seen that firsthand. Certain circumstances in which a family member or friend is going through an egg any medical agony. And you wondering how this is going to end. And we Indian Indian no you can predict with some substance is surrendering its not gonna have a happy ending there might be periods of respite there might be periods of you know improvement and then there's a relapse and wanted to -- further deterioration. I just think it's nuts and we see it again it's this what I call this culture of death the celebration of convenience. All the human life in all its forms and by the way. How does this not run absolutely have a long. In two a doctor's first an abiding duty in that is too he'll not killed two Q and help not too hot. But is loaded guy that would take in this case you are doing harm to somebody who's going to die next week by letting them -- this week Qaeda -- Nazi or -- being done you -- being dignified end. Protecting their -- talked to some themselves would tell you however that this notion to that you're gonna die next week than you might have another month. -- by the way in your mind you might say I remember when I was 21 and could run all day and play a leap in jumped on do all sorts of things have known here in this miserable failing buddy of mine in a wheelchair as miserable as that is TU. I suspect that your sons and daughters you feel Malia -- let's -- devils find some dignity.
That shows once thought to myself wanna find out 2666 see it succeed legislation in Massachusetts. To -- the right to choose your own death if your -- suffered. In another ferret -- suppose Russ you're NW RKO.
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And yes good morning hearing here is trying to get believe people are real multi million Sony called us a mini vacations for any weight and let me read this because I wanna stay on point. Because that's -- actually yesterday. I can honestly say -- real honesty in being a part of that my husband -- in May of last year it was very. But he did I'd hate to see if I did he -- K we know more he got -- could not to do it any longer. And newly married 42. Suffered the extent they're voting in their interest payment from many many years been quick for a long time like. Getting out doing it a cup but. Any annual. Which you slide it -- bothered me about killing grandma aren't pulling the plug that is so far from the truth that people are really kind of there really kind of shadows really it its focus on your story might have opinions. Made it okay is. And a I can't wife cookie could not give it any longer. He showed along with some beautiful beautiful people out skimpy -- in -- they kidnapping. Too -- and conducting -- aren't -- anything. But to. He -- that he did not want to me that anyone medical center. Anymore trying anything to -- wanted to -- I can peacefully. In Egypt not taking everything then how long does it really well I got not to bury our and he -- let me stay. Anyway and it is chilling -- I want I don't know probably a couple of days communique meant not wrong with no -- songs and then I didn't. No no he didn't know he was already suffering are more but he sure it's gonna O'Reilly it would give prominently. Make you a bit more but I'm just telling you -- I don't doubt field so what a person -- actually. Good life I'm not blaming it got.
You're saying it's not your choice. I want a choice personally -- you know aren't coming in with -- armed guards to sake I know my --
Exactly what that this story -- poignant as it is India are young you lived at.
You and I can't live it in action and --
And I respect I respect the the process that you and your husband went through -- that it sounds to me is that he did exactly he die in the -- dignity he had his family conversations with his family and his doctors it was not a suicide it was I do not.
What hero already is sure to take its course -- no objection that's an area the nature will always tickets -- not if you intervene medically which is usually what we do so you're you're saying a person has a right to not be saved you know problem with that. He he ya gonna be in control of what medical proceed do you want done -- and I always have the option of taking a little cocktail it's as we ended now the -- you wanna go from up what I would characterize as the passive. To the aggressive. And the aggressive is based upon a different view of human life it's that. This has become an inconvenience this has become pain and struggle and suffering and at seal laid around CO later relegate -- Mining is passive I recognize that we're all gonna turn that -- and if if it's okay to take things do -- you -- this scenario that. Her her husband to -- Pat's husband right then. If it's okay it is to be prolonging life artificially by taking drugs why would not be all right to use those strokes the opposite purpose. Because it's the opposite purpose one is about life in the doom and also about how it's -- personal choices.
Said that it's the dignity of life -- respect for human life in all its forms even at the final moments to be also hear what she said about. Talked to the doctors we were very open about this we had seen the struggle go on. And and they prescribed morphine that's what I call palliative care you making the end which is inevitable. As pain free as possible that's entirely appropriate within. In my view the practice of medicine it is not. Within the practice of medicine all what -- up public policy should be to have a more aggressive form. That buddy I hate -- life because it's inconvenient if.
I want to die I've suffered for five years from cancer I wanna die today yeah 'cause I can't take the misery anymore your answers screw you. -- Who was that they did not give he'll -- They did not give him nobody gave him a cocktail that focused on the -- part he made the decision which you agree with not to keep himself for sure I mean what are of course you have to was -- of doubted what we -- what are we gonna do we have every north Harris -- are -- decision or is that rational decision it it is -- the context of I have a terribly debilitating disease. You try to remove some of the clouds how. By talking to family members -- so medical what I auditor -- closet it's somewhat clouded the -- cloud into it but it's okay to make lot of decisions about the anyway airline to understand did the difference between an aggressive active itself -- part policy decision shored up by the way again. Recall why is the doctor to what to provide a killing -- Medicine not they curing medicine eight killing doesn't had a evolve though doctors just cleaner -- hit it I mean I think that's the best way to do a lot -- people allowed to bring guns in. But then you deal with all you know -- the met other people could be getting killed. You ruined walls and stuff like -- comics assets to a cocktail day here -- WR KR --
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A -- on the arm of whether anybody likes it or not and Tom I -- you don't people actually have a right. All the change tribunal kind of ethics these -- ought to make your own decisions about these issues and that could happen a bad bad but the limitation on that. Because often times that people don't talk to their family members their loved ones about what they want about what their values are due today. Respect today -- valued at primacy of -- no matter how uncomfortable it might they or if they've been suffering too much. Just don't treat me and let me -- Whenever it happens on Friday April which are linked to dated April 16. Is that third annual national healthcare decisions day. In which people are encouraged to talk to their family members. And come up with -- what are called advanced directives -- document the K eight. What my values are fresh get critically ill. And the we should make decisions or maybe I ought to clarify these. I can't -- If I can't I acquire the communicate those decision.
It -- does this include going into the proactive -- comfortable with the idea of a somebody saying I don't want any more care in their being restrained have carried to allow nature to take its course she's not comfortable with. -- proactive death in which -- doctors providing a potion or what have you attitude sued to put somebody into advanced to you know faster death. What is ethics say about that --
Out physician assisted suicide which it believes what -- talking about isn't absolute disaster. It's been a disaster everywhere it's been tried Oregon pollen. 88 it's abused. And it discourages. -- palliative care discourages people from off from actually using scare that would just make good that there would make him comfortable to your experience it also a bunch are.
In your experience in research why how is it how was it abused and who abuses and.
Com sometimes it's still remember sometimes is -- healthcare professions it's supposed to be done only good beacons and all of the patient or. Politicians are represented the -- proxy. And it's been shown in especially in Holland where they've done mystery here legally. There are bad they're oftentimes that's not the case odds that that it is done just on a position where I'm. The other -- against a physician assisted suicide is there really are diminishes the trust in the profession. Somebody doesn't know whether they're coming up that would medicine to help them automatically to kill them. And -- which we survive based on trust I mean our profession surprise based contrast so horrible idea. But can I can you guys oh web site for everybody to know what data now marvel. Com. There's there's a great it's interactive that I recommend for everybody bits are there that's an adult but to make their own decisions themselves. It's www. I aged eight and -- for help dot org source IAJ Ford got. -- It's the institute for health advances in California it's an advance directive that really. Anybody can write it any level of education but talk to your family members aren't we often say -- you know Easter -- passover coming up sometimes. -- Thanksgiving and Christmas are coming up bandwidth you're getting together into a tabletop conversation.
Okay we got should thank you Dave you're and put 617. 26666. You were talking about the right to die on six AD WRKO.
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