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The magicians he had all the time. He's slight of hand they how does moving in one direction it's up the minute you hear is happening all the sudden wild as the rabbit coming out that you say how that how they do -- So on look at this story today. You many tankers okayed and in Boston Harbor correct they're gonna be bringing tankers from Yemen step in here with liquefied natural gas direct dangerous cargo. -- they're concerned about explosions and potential terror on the ship itself -- Mayor Menino has been able to have an. Why don't know what I know -- call -- meltdown mail that's kind of mild I was second some little more vigorous but he's been upset about this for for years that they wanna bring these things into our Boston Harbor -- all right. So Yemen which we now know. Is a very dangerous place we actually known that for a long time. But it's the new hotbed of were al-Qaeda does their -- The surf to a home of al-Qaeda. You're gonna take ships were we know stowaways get on board. And come into the country that's well documented -- well reported. You're gonna take ships from Yemen carrying dangerous cargo bring him into Boston Harbor. That's right there on the front page of gold today that's right the official new policy of this country and Barack Obama's fighting terrorism -- vigorously right -- theft by by forcing them to undergo. The vicious rigors of the US. Criminal justice system. Rather than be at gitmo which is an evil place because it brings terrorists to justice. Would you -- stuff I'll break it down for me you're a Democrat depth. Just so take responsibility for your allegiance and explain how about incoherent. I am a Democrat by choice not default W -- with the current hot hot hot hot and you endorse a platform of the Coast -- does so well you're -- are well I do know -- you rejected I'll sign -- I -- and he has joined the Republican -- how about this -- Monday at -- declaration of independence from the platform from the what I want from a whole lot but -- platform will be good you are -- you will still not a form -- today -- to the -- each -- could not do a little. April down Jeff our -- a -- gripped by that time mobile three months QB -- with the Democrats are hot hot -- have a twelve step program to get you into the Republican -- They could not abide by the common sense that -- bring me home -- they would love these -- radicalized by the Democrats you're totally afar and specify how 'cause I. First of all you have value -- set up this insight tell people what to do site is this how does this -- fluid. You you have values -- that site you believe in fiscal responsibility correct you have common sense correct to I think. They I mean you either the you're totally foreign to tell him I told her what you under the micro life of an odd creature your pro life a -- pro life. Anybody they do with the like with the insects that would preserve them and amber yeah that's the fight and they felt stuck wash them in a -- that's what they'll do to me it. Squash read the book to preserve many of the sale that was once that was once upon a time -- a museum -- Truman and JFK in the -- over at the I'm. The mosquito museum over at Harvard popped up. So.
This -- and at this he vehemently Yemeni he had to say correctly Yemeni tankers -- in the -- yes the mayor is upset in the mail has had a long. Now record of opposition and stated concern about this. That raises the problem is district gas salute them paid a very important business to our economy you need this stuff this is how we fuel. How we can only get -- from Yemen. I thought there's so much natural gas continental. Race here well thank you for a North America thank you for anticipated my first that we don't even have to think about anybody else is natural gifts this is not. Argument number one. For much more aggressive. Drilling here in North America men be you know and go up off the Canadian outer shelf as well and -- and work -- your agreements with Canada. Then there's no there's no argument that's compelling this is an incredibly compelling argument for rust developing -- own. Resource is becoming less reliant less dependent upon other regions of the world particularly those. That to how -- we're not relying an idea of America Yemen is one dinky little country there's a natural gas all over the world is what you're reliant upon your reliant upon them by gas now whether it comes from Argentina or whether it comes from the can take the outer -- a -- around continental reserves and an offshore reserves. I'm I'm I'm agnostic on and I don't Q where everybody is the market is agnostic makes no difference where you buy your stuff from -- it doesn't change the price doesn't change anything but you have to anticipate that district gas was able to get a good deal from from -- yet no torment for this stuff -- so. They said hey we have terrorists we need to get in America yeah give us good prize a look at that the coast god has done its evaluation I don't think the coast got -- asleep at the switch or -- and I usually know it's run by Obama now. What's the same coast guy that was allotted and there -- they're coming in the shipments were coming in under bush. And it was that he would not say that that was a relaxed and I treasurer what you came to our risk there were coming in from -- don't but it says here this only I think the second Yemeni ship. Well we it was the LNG coming from before that.
we're also Russia only Venezuela where we're also is that short gossip all over the world okay well Venezuela would be as risky Russia would be is risky would -- not well. None of those countries. I don't -- racing us Yemen is the home it's -- capital country out of al-Qaeda thinks. Sporting I think so that's what we hear every day all right here that's where they've both is another argument that really should have you can send them a letter. Al-Qaeda Yemen and that's only if -- automatically goes right -- up. A return for postage. A Comedy Central is a question. The and another right -- when you read something like this and you say I understand the mayor has concerns this is a very very densely populated area there is always the risk of a terrorist situation of some type of explosion the imminent delivery would be only the second from Yemen to the United States to cut us some other virus so we're gonna have to go deeper in the article -- a win there were coming from. In if there's an explanation as to why destroy gasses which but I -- a lot of -- contracts let's you send the I think as a colonel why wouldn't our style fun. It's the coast got I think it's a setup so Obama can -- and pretend they care about terrorism and cancel -- cancel would do. While I predict that's what's gonna happen by the industry SS a lawsuit against the United States government why. -- 617266. 6860 are apparently want to subsidize framing of the question and he is a frustration that I have you know have all this stimulus money was supposed to have shovel ready projects was supposed to be putting people to work and he would very wise long term solution to this. Would have been to build an off sure. German. So these ships could dock outside of -- doing a from the -- sure bring it -- by pipeline ICI off of the coast of Manchester by the C yup. Every night yeah. A big ship out there he lit up. Is in one place all the time or whatever I ask my friend what -- what has what's going on a perfect view from his house he says other building up pipeline there now. I get a little docking station for Alan. And they can park the vote there they don't have to go under the Tobin Bridge you're you know send out 'cause those are very close quarters -- you've ever watched a big -- Under the Tobin Bridge in the maneuvering that has to occur and then of course the -- is concerned is I think Simone is he is valid non point. If in fact he should be a flashpoint this stuff whatever whatever happens LNG has its. Them moved into a gash just from liquid state to -- a state and as a flashpoint. It could be an incinerator ball that could do if it it could do tremendous tremendous. Yeah -- is -- it's so tight that if -- Charles Stewart to try to commit suicide when nothing was going on. He would've got hurt you -- that's -- that's right would have been so up like stepping up the character exactly. So why. You know I don't I don't see why we're doing this kind of stuff I don't see why the left hand the right hand don't ever been working agreement now. In our government who want them well let me ask your question what makes you think that the coast dead -- what do we -- these -- easy remedies are friendly to us we don't have anything to worry about. This guy would do the post god is vigilant on these things I have to noises sound vigilant you. Well I'm do you think we can trust that that there will not be stowaways on these ships. Yes why because I think the -- inspected before they're allowed into the job. Where. -- outside the how about the -- got personnel. And you think they can do they know every nook and cranny of the vessel and make sure there's no. Bad guys in I would think that that's probably don't really rigorously I don't know I is adapting. There -- methods in ways that often times make it difficult to detect. Are now on another threat of this just to live in an apple opened up yesterday. The heads of the intelligence agencies went to testify on Capitol Hill to tell members of congress. That -- there will be an attempted terror attack on this country in the next 36 months up. So let's put all these pieces together and tell us our government's working force why is a -- many shipman now being allowed into Boston Harbor. When we now know were in grave danger of being attacked and they're adapting.
What is the likelihood. Have another terrorist attempt to attack on the US homeland in the next week is six months time or alone. Mr. Blair.
And attempted attack the party is certain I would say. Surge over the next six months I agree with -- Panetta agrees clever language however listen closely. An attempted. Attack -- do you particular with a conspiratorial and almost paranoid mind should see what's going on here. Panetta and Blair trying to set up the situation in which an attempted attack. In of course preferred justification for them their budgets this splendid job performance indeed be an every down into the benefit of the Obama adminstration. They -- stopped the attempt to the.
intersect at a certain of that -- appropriate way to have this conversation you can't talk about successful attacks you don't know what percentage are going to be successful all you need as we hear all the time is one to be successful so the critical. The question is will there be -- and are -- new message they're using and is. Is -- an LNG tanker likely way to try to ever perpetrated devastating attack on on the homeland. But reasonably well read four year old could say they will certainly be attempts I mean -- nothing revelatory in that exchanged between the congressional. -- they could say there are likely as they have been over the past several years every we we consider the likely. Any day of the week -- are based on the history since the September 11 that's different from guaranteeing us. That they're gonna be attempts over the next three to six months that's a deliberate attempt to raise. Our a level of excitement over so you could be right it's the trying to increase their budgets. But it also could be the wish have to take them at their -- 61726668. Succeed general wants to go easy on the terrorist --
Aren't quite a child who do you agree to. Jeff you're WRKO. Florida hey Jeff what's going on.
You have to say a -- like the Red Sox play they -- they -- absolutely you know it just didn't have as they attempt pres but you know it's enough I can -- and probably got thousands millions of other Americans think that why can't Vietnamese. You know they can expect these are slowly -- enormous -- what's to stop them from what the little pale yellow. Metal box beside a suitcase on the wanna be should still looks like blogs they're controlled player so Baum yeah I mean it this is simple stupid stops.
And normally how easy would it be to have a suicide bomber we wanted to crew member.
Exactly I mean we can't trust these people say my god you don't out of I -- sort vertical already -- the blessed here at some point I don't know but he said that. The amount of LNG in those -- is what it would literally ocean it's gonna make all whole more than a mile wide in the water. That's how much this stuff exterior door and explodes.
While could be just like Obama walking out there. I'd really. Question. I think he's just there to -- Judas -- else I jars. Drag it out good money George what's going on --
And is that Castro district commander there right after nine elevenths and they involve India. Ideology transports had many debates we've got the governor and with the mayor.
I can tell you that there are many ports that Thomas made I think I totally agree with pat on this one by debt. Thomas made good points on pandemic be extraordinary.
Winters are making a good morning how good hot hot hot hot and she's monitoring may not -- until I got to -- Through Masood now.
Actually he had a degree. Security I'm on this starship that is like no other in the world and and it goes red along with a local state and federal agencies here. I've given this such tremendous attention back valued you really can't feel very secure about this.
You can feel secure that everybody would have been properly vetted. Who's working on a tanker coming in from Yemen.
Yes absolutely how bad that it's gotta -- it is an extraordinary go to the requirements because there's placed on the ship currently older and how. They can be done in place spoke over in Yemen and a better way to previous shipments have been coming from. Trinidad and Tobago and Algeria the late. So but there are other sources that -- one of our mission of course it is to facilitate commerce. And at some point -- it is an absolute necessity here. Just see if you've got this year of the vessel ever wanted to crewmembers have been very I'm like no one else there are people on board that I don't.
Well George you still there and did we not too bad -- about -- I just got in Nevada because I don't -- and I think you have a great question on now when because you know who who is in Yemen on -- behalf. From a blue in it. Protected from the terrorist threat. To make sure that everybody who is on board is legit and is not a suicide bomber and to go back to jump skull about you know a little the little suitcase so why did to a cellphone -- the retreat and up. You know tucked away in some. Inside some pipe I don't so we can't vet properly. Members of the state senate to make sure they're nodding gauging a criminal activity how to sell back its.
All the talk of Boston's talk station they have -- W workers. On the back in good morning Wednesday February there's still back out this light flurries started you have flurries up there on the ultra. Not so I've got about halfway down one. Jimenez started giving -- Just a life -- and nothing. You mentioned no still on the road --
Because up speed made the car a little lighter on the road so wouldn't slip disease -- ha ha ha. Good field where it don't ya minimize contact with the crowd in the fourth and then the Celtics can't reach up. -- In the Boston Harbor the testimony yesterday the congress from the heads of our intelligence agencies that we aren't. And heists likelihood of love seeing an attack. Correct and George and George has some background -- this George welcome back end to give me if you could restate your credentials George corrupt people manager just joined us.
I sure iChat not sorry I lost the connection that has George Barack -- retired -- over to district commander of that well that point that. During cannot eleven and thereafter and and any discussions with the mayor and the governor at that -- acting governor swift. Regarding the entry of LNG into Boston Harbor. And their children involved at this point Bobby Kennedy Airport -- immediate chemistry director over here you have been through multiple layers of security we have a place and we have also with the Coast Guard as far as -- The assessment. Rest and the associated reps and I was trying to reassure you that it took the job because I certainly don't I think it is extraordinary and that -- show well beyond back or any other.
But how how -- they properly -- sailors getting on a boat in Yemen and knows that they are not people with a nefarious schools.
Well I I can't explain it's some parts of that as you can imagine that a classified information but. But suffice to say it is done at a level that is unprecedented. At every security precaution has been taken that would with a special imports. Before it is loaded during the loading after loading them and part of coming into port in Boston similar range of requirements and tremendous job of reaching capital community so everybody else. And an understanding of of the threats and their responsibilities and I think it's been done that extraordinarily well and then it says that the -- commerce and an occasion where this is a necessity. That it can be done.
Would you put the same level the security is what we have say it airport send in airplanes in this country.
I would say it's greater than that frankly. Airports. I have multiple layers of security act as mobile and -- transcripts. But we we all have to admit nothing is perfect we we can never. Give you a 100% mission assurance so that's slowing cavaliers and that I do believe it's very effective.
George we got a call early this morning from somebody who said and you know we all watched 24 we understand the technology today is does this miraculous things. This sumo would be to prevent true example somebody from. Placing a suitcase a little -- briefcase somewhere. That can actually be treated by a cell phone so you don't have to be I don't have to be a terrorist on Bolivia the tech I can -- a terrorist on board a little a little washed away a lot. And I come within you know five miles or just somebody -- you know what I mean dial phone and all of a sudden we have an. You know the type of explosion we see on the episodes of 24 but this is real life stuff that the may have to worry about how does how does the coast got. Deter and prevent that.
Well I've been there are a number of actions taken and I've gotta -- I can explain them -- line. He had the -- requires certain things we the gas company in noted -- that the port originations and and then routes. And then prior to entering the harbor so. Suffice to say every one of your concerns are addressed and keep people. From the local communities here have all been part of that discussion does so there is a complete awareness.
So is so Mayor Menino must be grandstanding this -- been briefed and has known to be concerned.
Well I would never say that I think that the mayor has a good point and we we have fair analogy terminal in the middle of an urban area -- one of the only want to the world. And he's been right for thirty tribunal at all the back. Do we -- we haven't had to do all over again we wouldn't play street facility there. And I know there are other. Alternate sites being considered but there's tremendous cost associated with each of post and then someone would have to bear that cost them. And perhaps we'll have another solution but for now we do not have to look where they bury it in the best way that we possibly can and I really believe that's been accomplished.
Georgia got Todd Todd was talk a little while ago about some type of gas line that's being constructed up off of -- Gloucester mint just the by the seat. How would that have any future utility. Two two to these -- shipments that are causing concern.
Are absolutely and then there are other solutions that play also live there. We literally offshore oil loading facilities where. Where he had attacked her could be uploaded it it's expensive because. You have to recognize this cargo comes in -- an absolute zero and it expands tremendous -- So so there are tremendous -- requirements that for every piece of equipment and four -- The containment and and so forth but but yes Arab solution mr. employer will work not buried yet and and that's why we still have so many -- shipments of elegy because it is by far the most efficient method of getting the gas that we need here we're going what.
Terry George thank you for both of your calls appreciate fought in the information we have a great audience when you think of it on seriousness is a serious public domain has legitimate concerns we all know that from a commercial Iraq or economic point of you immediate. They anticipate duty shipments duty tankers. On an annual basis so that's a lot it's. And you to have a guy like that call in and offers expertise a book that's that's great stuff 617266. Exceeds sixty were talking and the chance of terror ships coming in from. Yemen with liquefied natural gas the terror well well the security officials in this country are warning us that terror attack is likely. Or certain over the next six months or so at least an attempt. Let's go to you now -- your NW RQ good morning.
And well I -- just coming right static but I that they get the vote but I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm -- that's want I almost all of.
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but well yeah and also let them know that that I know anybody who would bottom out there that I'm a begin at. The transportation worker identification card really bad I began extremely -- the Coast Guard security and I know you're gonna Mystic --
We're saying is somebody from Yemen getting on a ship and -- coming here estimated to be certified by our government.
Well I don't be guided out there -- by the Coast Guard and that he didn't know on the Bachmann and all the people brought up then that. Well it's not an -- but come on -- try to get on the ship. You're gonna be hanging out all I'm that the rapper wanna be a debate that doesn't come up try to get under the should welcome -- But I've also got back already very --
I don't understand how you do this Allen I'm let -- go because the you you sell the sounds terrible it's hard to understand you but I I -- I just say I brought up the airline. Parallel because we know from -- summer Hamachi do there's always going to be one of these nut case is slipping through. From time to time but -- doing the best you can get a better I can't by making structural decisions it will minimize access or put the most pressure on somebody's trying to do the bad things so they saw.
Or sale of operations the number of air travel was the frequency of those flights. Making it impossible to put in place the type of standard of review when India and double and triple processes that George the Coast -- guy. Was referring to you could you just could not these are -- do.
You're right and about her -- I'm not saying there are exactly even -- when you look at what happened with the dvd bomber yes what you saw was. What ever systems you put in place they don't even have to work to break the systems. Are people are so stupid so incompetent -- I was so unable to function on the most basic level of confidence that we can't trust our systems.
You know there's always the fear of human error in human folly will all be if they'll always be a pot of of the drummer of life it's just stayed. It is what it is at the same time I think it's fundamentally different what I hear from George the coast -- guy putter from George is that -- is a controllable. Situation.
Then why everything's controlled -- It's like you know didn't if you saw a report on this some -- so local woody called of the little airlines and are now under scrutiny because the buffalo crashed. In the gross negligence on the part of that pilot in that plane last year both of the pilot out gorgeous behaving stupidly irresponsibly from around and then when push came to shove. His training was not adequate -- the situation which was a basic situation so on the one hand we -- wow look how rare it is. That there's an airliner crashed look at the excellence in human beings are. Able to sustain that there's a lot of luck involved with that excellence that well this this this some lucky and in the what you can't do -- allow yourself as they. Society as a culture as a community. To be paralyzed by -- no no second -- potential -- make smart decisions is no you get LNG elsewhere let's not do it from the capital of al-Qaeda that saw.
But if but if it is it was so you would need to feel with district s.'s ability then to at the end in within accepted. Security guidelines to work out a deal for -- what is -- a twenty year contract I think they have -- these.
I would encourage them to what he is supplied her -- registered -- on seven out to San Francisco the let them -- Mike you're -- WRQ what -- and talk.
Sorry why did this complex and -- racial profiling. Yeah. I'm totally explain that a little further than just. -- postseason upset that they had -- come up from nobody you know. Yemen is what a couple of like you know almost has that he's hater. Usually consider exactly okay and then it is a type a -- no -- whatsoever racial profiling when we wanna be sit on the appoint.
Well this is an interesting side like you've added that as my -- it's an interest -- put we're all profiling. From the president dugout everybody now is identified yemenis the next hot spot right now this is where al-Qaeda goes for a vacation and and training. And planning and all arrest and -- can't stomach and it it'll be somewhere else. As we chased them down and -- Yemen and convince the -- many authorities to to crack down on this still move somewhere else who looked at the show this profile looks taking a step further. Should the early in the -- what do we call and sailors there's that in generic term for somebody is on a ship coming from Yemen the emergency -- okay of the solution does seem there and coming in. Firm Yemen. Should they have instate tuition rights.
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And how would you are you are good. Hot hot hot how you argue against that without being a -- who publish if I may not. 61726666. -- this -- to change. And we're going. -- Obama today I.
Yeah let all I have. Two quick points with all we have not gotten there it's not terrorism and -- two examples. One Beijing Rockingham. Located at port security she got the job based on who -- not what you. And it's so you'll qualify wasn't shot locally employed then just maybe something could have been gone but surely -- prosecute. Open. That we had serious stop appointing people based on political connections.
Joe Joe that is so -- I'll -- you make the second went on in front of the trust dead is so all the top. That is read -- you aren't already said the prosecutor's criminal prosecution for somebody who was a very very competent very competent chief of staff to bill weld. Ian -- there's no question about that she has. Political relationships nobody in this country nobody. In dissipated that we -- we would be attacked the way we we're and we were all lax about import security because we -- we didn't wanna put up with the inconvenience that's not -- barking -- following --
It is not certainly she knew that this kind of attack was a possibility don't -- nobody knew these scenarios were out there in the intelligence community there's even a major motion picture that was made using that scenario of planes being in a hijack planes have been being hijacked for -- he has been on the bill Alexander hijack hype that goes on all over the world -- hijacked don't play games now we may you know what I mean the September.

