Christy Mihos and Kevin Sworda

94322. Okay joining us now on the line is -- me knows who well lost that. Very very. Contested closed primary back in 1990 for the state senate seat that Bob Devlin still occupies. Christie is now running for governor. -- what's the story with all these these these lawsuits against -- more anti -- I read from the Cape Cod Times here this morning lawsuits -- also rose more than 600000 dollars in bills. What's going on here.

Yeah I don't and there is one lawsuit that was filed. It was you know against that it that the business survey of how -- you know business is business conduct. Prisoners disagreements happen in enlightenment happen all the time and I you know you're trying to square them away and if they got got a -- that they have to go to court they go to court but it's not personal. It's certainly not against the campaign I don't have a personal guarantee you with this but I'm just that they don't look deal with that I'm just not gonna let anybody prior run rough shot over me because they want to work. That you know globe reporter -- story ought to ought to do something because it in the year in the political. In a political -- certainly does you know I always. You you know me I mean. I've always been a standup guy not a fit inside the guidance. Whether it's the turnpike back an old one when what I've voted against doubling the toll could take it on facto law. Firing Jim Halloween because he wouldn't substantiate the 800000 dollar bill.

the Christi -- while do you all known and petroleum 634000. Dollars or anywhere near that.

If we say no we say no and we're willing to go to court to squared away but what leftist settle it without. But it that you don't -- we we still bite from them on a daily basis that it know where we're good friends we believe that we've been doing business that put them for decades. But you know a number of terms to change it would make it very difficult bars so we'll we'll we'll take this thing not.

Our our you have and are you having financial problems.

Now. Not -- and I cannot look at. Yeah absolutely. Positively. Not. I -- when we sold out last year luckily I have my wife has the good head and shoulders she put the money basically at the force stocks. Google apple Amazon and -- and -- intuitive surgical. I would do we do very very well. If when we have properties that we we have we -- out. I think they're very good but this you know what I'm just not gonna roll over because someone wants to our. You know globe reporter wants to write stories and have been an idea out there politically charged.

Because I mean you couldn't write this story and I know you're you're angry about Franken -- frank Phillips the globe reporter body you know he couldn't will you mentioned them twice now. Well but I mean he could write this if it's good if the complaint had been filed in court in Noonan petroleum says you all model over 600000 box.

That's the one side as -- you haven't seen our response. We weren't given a chance to respond to this particular story. By the globe. And that you don't eat it it's very easy to get hold of me everybody that's my cellphone it's on the web site.

What's your response and --

Our response is is that we we don't believe we oath that type of that that type of but I issue and that. Who would try to work these things out. What do you know. We're we're working on that right now as we speak. -- It -- we're working on that just as we speak Kelly but it's something that's gonna go to court and -- work got a court not to let you know I'm not gonna work it out. I'm not WRK no word on how we cannot show these --

W agreement today. But don't forget WX TJX. -- okay well you know why hadn't the WW liar saying you've gotta you gotta but they.

Mr. speaker how we do more -- bitterness disagreement. Last year or so it that they go to court it try to work it out not. You know sometimes they work out sometimes they don't but what they're trying to work feasting -- at least as we always do.

I'm still have to get fired. I think I'm still in the get fired but look at how credible to repeat shepherd. You do whatever you want but. What to do the best we can okay I'll listen what about the what about the other three these three former consultants now how much how much you blow them. You not -- You all members.

They've all been paid that -- they -- The PR guy resigned in September on September 30 we have his resignation. We we played them an extra months of -- there's salary. I just. The wave of AMOCO up late and it just does sometimes it just civil works. Date of the Rick Wilson thing that has been paid. The other fellow that -- that there is no complaint --

This three Blige I web designer have you PayPal -- sludge yes we doubt. You have been fudged on and the envoy to Latin mass censure.

Well that's the good ones that's a good point but you know there's some issues they -- that we're gonna take on two. They trashed -- web site for a couple date that date you just the.

Holy (%expletive) did you really try to trap -- into finding out those emails or quarter than the globe story that was kind of embarrassing if they're true I mean there are those so those are real emails that you sent him saying that he would that you tried to set them up so that. You could see whether he saw weather right. I'd leaked material. To the press is do you how do that.

They beat up people leaking material. The debt that is sensitive and cannot you cannot allow this stuff can happen. So yeah I'm vehicle -- what is it either right or is it wrong it's wrong what they did that we had to find out.

It's easy doesn't it -- what I mean you wanna be the governor of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts I mean this is called micro managing to the nth degree I mean Joe what did you just fire the guy if you think you you got a problem I mean you're you're setting up like inspector and so type of scenarios.

We we know we did we did our part company with them they've all been paid. And you know we've -- you just -- hope autograph. But -- look at what we're moving now what -- message I heard today that New Hampshire had a great December 7 point 8% up and retail sales. That we looked flat -- doubt that both the the real problems that. When you pass this bill actually do what they did. You know yeah you just killing this state but we're gonna fight he's -- as big as they come along is that business disagrees it's not think.

Or you're gonna be and you're gonna be in court against -- petroleum on Friday is that correct.

I I don't know how it's gonna churn out if we have to be -- the F.

What's -- I mean it's a you know whether it's -- whether you're in the right there in the right it's not good news for you would have those kind of headlines.

its its business and these things happen and business. Do you think that people -- which is one -- to -- what let you know what. What what should I have just voted to double the polls are not the fire back bill and not the fire Al Louise did not debate on Amarillo.

Miller -- worded different here now I mean we've got to move on beyond the turnpike commuter you know I know we're still play in polls but that that's that's in the past now Chris.

Not what they what is right is right and I must stand up guy and I'm not -- guy actually -- outfitting guy quote from my opponent. Really it did delegate -- what you got today. -- they are looking for accountability full access full transparency. And that's where I've been all about how well you -- it but right there along watching this thing go. But I'm not gonna change my strikes at my age.

Okay Christie we appreciate -- being one of okay okay that's Christie may house again he says gets some some lawsuits pending on the -- for bills that is is smooth. Former -- vendors claim have it hasn't been paid to them that they held more than 600000 dollars 187746943. 22 I'm Howie Carr.

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18774694322. We're gonna get a representative Jeff Perry in just a moment he's stadium. They even so long for -- crucially there are running against -- sell hot or whoever the democratic nominee isn't that congressional district.

But we just heard from tool the people who aura so -- Meade host for. Al alleging that they haven't been paid. Jeffrey fudged the web designer from Rhode Island new claims geo is old twenty. 2045. Dollars and -- quarter. The the former spokesman for the campaign who was suing for 7500 dollars and they were listening and they just want to call an end. And comment. First of all like Kevin you you first are you -- to what are what did you think of what Christie said.

I'm beginning to wonder if there's kind of a detachment with reality going on here I mean it I think he did a good interview you asked him some legitimate questions I I don't know what the frank Phillips 600000 dollar -- has to do without the mass turnpike authority and Christie's glorious that travails there I mean this just a lot of people that are owed money. Just to correct the record we're not involve the litigation right now what we did was file a complaint with OC PFR and it's very disappointing when someone who you worked hard. And who you admired. Disappointing the money is -- we have not been paid. Just as Rick Wolff and hasn't been paid 34000 dollars. I'm the last time I ever heard from -- my post was -- email them holding in my hand right now. Dated November 2 and it does Kevin you've made the date they would you would about a big and heartfelt thank you. And it gets seven more emails that are like -- opponent tanner. With full satisfaction of services but Christie has stepped up and I think that that if someone can't manage their own fiscal house. I do not think they will be able to menace the state house.

And that now what Jeff sludge she's the web designer from Rhode Island Jeff now you you what you have some emails I guess that you received you you were supposedly in trapped in leaking some information to the press is that right -- I read that correctly.

How we get. -- that but yeah. -- they alleges that -- quietly information from the campaign even though. I hadn't worked for the campaign and in -- I'm just trying to get you know reimbursed or. Or it invoice that it triggered the month that November so you know where we're coming up on the first that. They're very double 38 has it this morning.

So you're saying you're -- though you wish to be referred to his deep throat you're saying in fact you did not leak any information to --

I did not seek any information to the press even though it was a clever trap they get that or. I think that they can't make -- ever. It's set -- in -- the only thing missing from from print it email what she. Announced but I had been trapped was it it just begun that pop. And you know that what I would've been able to answer. Is spoiled yet you know I mean it. It it's it's just crazy -- I others they weren't coming from you know I've provided services. -- like as a -- and I have nothing but you know should precede that indicate that he's happy with the work I did. I've never been fired as far as I know I -- that there yet but wanna get any -- is that it Morse is gonna pick the web site over. I had no problem with that is admit they're pretty in the beginning I was always -- the displeasure. And and you know do the best work I -- as long -- they needed Internet that went at this bigot you've done and I was ready to let my business so. But back but he well well settled last simply they're --

Okay what happens next star Kevin -- with a bow to you guys are your shoe prints or speak for Jeff you're in the same boat.

Well you know dejected remarkable job in the campaign I did everybody who worked on the campaign from day one lieutenant Calley who was -- campaign manager over the summer months. You know everybody worked hard. Lou told me that you don't vote 15000 dollars by Christy -- is old money so Alou told me verbatim face to face that you -- 15000. I mean that they get because I mean I don't think frank Phillips made up that Noonan is owed 600 grand. And when you ask you know it's just it's it's remarkable I mean things to meet that. The real issue here is that the caucuses are taking place now and I think there comes a point in time where somebody needs to really reassess whether or not they have any chance whatsoever being elected.

Judge Kevin Jeff we got to move on we gotta talk to Jeff Perry but I appreciate both -- calling -- Doug good luck with by getting your money okay.